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GAGAH-BOY BRAZIL
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Posted - 2012.08.06 04:01:00 -
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I will be simple and straightforward.
- Abuse of vehicles getting worse. - Lag worse - Plateaus on maps like no place there for protection. - The vehicles have access to all places with the exception biomass. - The vehicles can hit you anywhere, and they also come in anywhere. - The focus of the games is more Vehicles x Vehicles and not Body x Body . - It is impossible to play in matches that have Erix Dropship and Surya tank.
You have 2 choices when it happens.
1 - Die trying. 2 - Quit the game.
It is my frustration! |
Omnipotent lilmamaj
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
205
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Posted - 2012.08.06 04:02:00 -
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You aren't alone. This game takes no skill because of these scrubs with tanks. Its certainly unplayable. |
Arceus Evoxazon
Hikahotaru
119
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Posted - 2012.08.06 04:04:00 -
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Omnipotent lilmamaj wrote:You aren't alone. This game takes no skill because of these scrubs with tanks. Its certainly unplayable. Oh hey! You must be one of the people sending me hate mail every so often! Nice to meet you! |
Debacle Nano
Shadow Company HQ
639
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Posted - 2012.08.06 04:04:00 -
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Nope. |
Omnipotent lilmamaj
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
205
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Posted - 2012.08.06 04:07:00 -
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Arceus Evoxazon wrote:Omnipotent lilmamaj wrote:You aren't alone. This game takes no skill because of these scrubs with tanks. Its certainly unplayable. Oh hey! You must be one of the people sending me hate mail every so often! Nice to meet you! Scrubs like you don't deserve hate mail. Only good players |
Arceus Evoxazon
Hikahotaru
119
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Posted - 2012.08.06 04:07:00 -
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Omnipotent lilmamaj wrote:Arceus Evoxazon wrote:Omnipotent lilmamaj wrote:You aren't alone. This game takes no skill because of these scrubs with tanks. Its certainly unplayable. Oh hey! You must be one of the people sending me hate mail every so often! Nice to meet you! Scrubs like you don't deserve hate mail. Only good players Say that to my inbox! Oh wait ... You did.
PS - I make people angry enough to send it to my PSN mailbox. |
Arceus Evoxazon
Hikahotaru
119
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Posted - 2012.08.06 04:09:00 -
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Btw Gagah, +1
I think of you as a rival player and respect you highly on the field. |
vermacht Doe
93
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Posted - 2012.08.06 04:11:00 -
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Omnipotent lilmamaj wrote:You aren't alone. This game takes no skill because of these scrubs with tanks. Its certainly unplayable.
Scrubs with tanks, you might be slow because scrubs only use the militia and those are easy to take out. Everyone else uses tanks that cost 100k isk plus and a lot more sp. |
Fivetimes Infinity
Immobile Infantry
1086
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Posted - 2012.08.06 04:11:00 -
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There's a new build expected sometime this month. Things will change. See how it goes. |
Omnipotent lilmamaj
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
205
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Posted - 2012.08.06 04:13:00 -
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vermacht Doe wrote:Omnipotent lilmamaj wrote:You aren't alone. This game takes no skill because of these scrubs with tanks. Its certainly unplayable. Scrubs with tanks, you might be slow because scrubs only use the militia and those are easy to take out. Everyone else uses tanks that cost 100k isk plus and a lot more sp. Scrubs use tanks that cost 100k isk plus |
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GAGAH-BOY BRAZIL
66
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Posted - 2012.08.06 04:15:00 -
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Fivetimes Infinity wrote:There's a new build expected sometime this month. Things will change. See how it goes.
I twist a lot to improve. |
vermacht Doe
93
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Posted - 2012.08.06 04:15:00 -
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Omnipotent lilmamaj wrote:vermacht Doe wrote:Omnipotent lilmamaj wrote:You aren't alone. This game takes no skill because of these scrubs with tanks. Its certainly unplayable. Scrubs with tanks, you might be slow because scrubs only use the militia and those are easy to take out. Everyone else uses tanks that cost 100k isk plus and a lot more sp. Scrubs use tanks that cost 100k isk plus
Bullsh*t don't get mad cause you can't use a tank |
Jonquill Caronite
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
115
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Posted - 2012.08.06 04:18:00 -
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Funny you should all say that... The trend I've noticed is quite the opposite, I've seen a number of Sagaris and Surya pilots who were good put into a situation of run and gunning all game with no oppertunity to aid in capture of points... Sure they rack up a lot of kills and are incredibly annoying, but their presence doesn't determine the winner of the games...
The game winners are determined by which team moves together the most, in an equal ratio with the most Creodon rifles and Proto Forge Guns.... A good balance of those three and the amount of Tanks and Dropships doesn't play an effect on the game... I've seen this a lot.
So it really depends on what you mean... If you mean winning the match, tank drivers are far less important then other fits... If you mean having the highest kill to death ratio? Then yeah tank drivers are ****. If you mean cost to benefit analysis? It depends on the tank, the ones that actually aid their team in capturing points go in the negative since they usually die every other game or so, the ones who never stop moving and **** everyone but don't aid in capturing at all, never die because they never get pinned, and thus they make insane amounts of bank and have 10-20 million ISK and 100 more fits just like the one they're currently driving...
Frankly are they balanced? Right now no, because right now the battles don't matter, and the points and K/D ratio are all that we can measure, so these tanks are the undisputed champs unless you count matches won, which no one seems to do... However, when there's assets on the line, I think you'll find this isn't the case at all...
We'll see. |
GAGAH-BOY BRAZIL
66
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Posted - 2012.08.06 04:22:00 -
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Arceus Evoxazon wrote:Btw Gagah, +1
I think of you as a rival player and respect you highly on the field.
Thank you friend. Sorry my bad english, I use google translator to communicate. |
lDocHollidayl
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
171
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Posted - 2012.08.06 04:23:00 -
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Unique. I played a game with you and %50 of your kills seemed to be RE. What will you do next build. Coming from an AV man tanks are only rough when your alone. When there are no mics and everyone on your team has never heard of a forge gun or swarm launcher. As soon as you got a mate tanks fear you. But with no groups...alas it happens.
I also have ran tanks a hair and they are far from too powerful...but that might mean I am not very good.
I will join you as the game is no longer enjoyable...just bored unless I play with friends. |
Crimson MoonV
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
658
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Posted - 2012.08.06 04:23:00 -
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vermacht Doe wrote:Omnipotent lilmamaj wrote:vermacht Doe wrote:Omnipotent lilmamaj wrote:You aren't alone. This game takes no skill because of these scrubs with tanks. Its certainly unplayable. Scrubs with tanks, you might be slow because scrubs only use the militia and those are easy to take out. Everyone else uses tanks that cost 100k isk plus and a lot more sp. Scrubs use tanks that cost 100k isk plus Bullsh*t don't get mad cause you can't use a tank Who wants to sit in a tank and grind for 1000s of hours?
Seriously? Does that really sound like fun? I think I would put a bullet in my brain after about 400 hours. |
Rorek IronBlood
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
746
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Posted - 2012.08.06 04:24:00 -
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This is gonna be good. |
vermacht Doe
93
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Posted - 2012.08.06 04:26:00 -
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Jonquill Caronite wrote:Funny you should all say that... The trend I've noticed is quite the opposite, I've seen a number of Sagaris and Surya pilots who were good put into a situation of run and gunning all game with no oppertunity to aid in capture of points... Sure they rack up a lot of kills and are incredibly annoying, but their presence doesn't determine the winner of the games...
The game winners are determined by which team moves together the most, in an equal ration with the most Creodon rifles and Proto Forge Guns.... A good balance of those three and the amount of Tanks and Dropships doesn't play an effect on the game... I've seen this a lot.
So it really depends one what you mean... If you mean winning the match, tank drivers are far less important then other fits... If you mean having the highest kill to death ratio? Then yeah tank drivers are ****. If you mean cost to benefit analysis? It depends on the tank, the ones that actually aid their team in capturing points go in the negative since they usually die every other game or so, the ones who never stop moving and **** everyone but don't aid in capturing at all, never die because they never get pinned, and thus they make insane amounts of bank and have 10-20 million ISK and 100 more fits just like the one they're currently driving...
Frankly are they balanced? Right now no, because right now the battles don't matter, and the points and K/D ratio are all that we can measure, so these tanks are the undisputed champs unless you count matches won, which no one seems to do... However, when there's assets on the line, I think you'll find this isn't the case at all...
We'll see.
Most of the tank drivers I've gunned for today have been ferrying troops to objectives and defending them so even though tanks go for kd they aren't the only ones |
vermacht Doe
93
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Posted - 2012.08.06 04:27:00 -
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Crimson MoonV wrote:vermacht Doe wrote:Omnipotent lilmamaj wrote:vermacht Doe wrote:Omnipotent lilmamaj wrote:You aren't alone. This game takes no skill because of these scrubs with tanks. Its certainly unplayable. Scrubs with tanks, you might be slow because scrubs only use the militia and those are easy to take out. Everyone else uses tanks that cost 100k isk plus and a lot more sp. Scrubs use tanks that cost 100k isk plus Bullsh*t don't get mad cause you can't use a tank Who wants to sit in a tank and grind for 1000s of hours? Seriously? Does that really sound like fun? I think I would put a bullet in my brain after about 400 hours.
To take out scrubs with the creo that think they're good |
TotalBreakage
Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic
410
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Posted - 2012.08.06 04:29:00 -
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GAGAH-BOY BRAZIL wrote:I will be simple and straightforward.
- Abuse of vehicles getting worse. - Lag worse - Plateaus on maps like no place there for protection. - The vehicles have access to all places with the exception biomass. - The vehicles can hit you anywhere, and they also come in anywhere. - The focus of the games is more Vehicles x Vehicles and not Body x Body . - It is impossible to play in matches that have Erix Dropship and Surya tank.
You have 2 choices when it happens.
1 - Die trying. 2 - Quit the game.
It is my frustration! You abuse RE's which are a legitametely OP weapon and are getting nerfed for that , is that any less harmful then this so called vehicle "abuse"? |
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HowDidThatTaste
461
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Posted - 2012.08.06 04:30:00 -
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GAGAH-BOY BRAZIL wrote:I will be simple and straightforward.
- Abuse of vehicles getting worse. - Lag worse - Plateaus on maps like no place there for protection. - The vehicles have access to all places with the exception biomass. - The vehicles can hit you anywhere, and they also come in anywhere. - The focus of the games is more Vehicles x Vehicles and not Body x Body . - It is impossible to play in matches that have Erix Dropship and Surya tank.
You have 2 choices when it happens.
1 - Die trying. 2 - Quit the game.
It is my frustration!
From one of the biggest RE abusers I have ever come across. Just quit the game and move on. |
Veigar Mordekaiser
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
676
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Posted - 2012.08.06 04:34:00 -
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So, I'm assuming you're running around proto assault right? Cause I have no problems with any Eryx or Surya with my Forge Gun. |
vermacht Doe
93
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Posted - 2012.08.06 04:36:00 -
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HowDidThatTaste wrote:GAGAH-BOY BRAZIL wrote:I will be simple and straightforward.
- Abuse of vehicles getting worse. - Lag worse - Plateaus on maps like no place there for protection. - The vehicles have access to all places with the exception biomass. - The vehicles can hit you anywhere, and they also come in anywhere. - The focus of the games is more Vehicles x Vehicles and not Body x Body . - It is impossible to play in matches that have Erix Dropship and Surya tank.
You have 2 choices when it happens.
1 - Die trying. 2 - Quit the game.
It is my frustration! From one of the biggest RE abusers I have ever come across. Just quit the game and move on.
He should realize that he has a third option:
Switch to an av fit |
Garma QUDA
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
468
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Posted - 2012.08.06 04:37:00 -
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Veigar Mordekaiser wrote:So, I'm assuming you're running around proto assault right? Cause I have no problems with any Eryx or Surya with my Forge Gun. Said the Forge Gunner |
vermacht Doe
93
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Posted - 2012.08.06 04:40:00 -
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Garma QUDA wrote:Veigar Mordekaiser wrote:So, I'm assuming you're running around proto assault right? Cause I have no problems with any Eryx or Surya with my Forge Gun. Said the Forge Gunner
If you can't fight vehicles, you're f*cked. People are lucky all weapons damage vehicles |
Mobius Wyvern
BetaMax.
1216
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Posted - 2012.08.06 04:43:00 -
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Omnipotent lilmamaj wrote:Arceus Evoxazon wrote:Omnipotent lilmamaj wrote:You aren't alone. This game takes no skill because of these scrubs with tanks. Its certainly unplayable. Oh hey! You must be one of the people sending me hate mail every so often! Nice to meet you! Scrubs like you don't deserve hate mail. Only good players Wow. Yet another person who's butthurt over an MMOFPS having vehicles. You do realize how hopelessly stupid a game like this would be without a heavy vehicle element? Plateau -is- more open, but Craterlake Communication and Biomass had two points that were accessable only to infantry, and one that could be reached by dropship from overhead, but couldn't be reached by ground vehicles. You're going to see all kinds of environments, some which cater to vehicles, and some that do not. |
STB-stlcarlos989 EV
Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic
936
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Posted - 2012.08.06 04:45:00 -
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No offense to vehicle specialists, but hopefully next patch changes the vehicle dynamics. I sometimes feel that I'm the only person that believes gun combat should be more important that vehicle combat in an FPS. With higher vehicle prices and new AV gear I hope that vehicle combat becomes secondary to gun combat, but we'll see. |
Mobius Wyvern
BetaMax.
1216
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Posted - 2012.08.06 04:48:00 -
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STB-stlcarlos989 EV wrote:No offense to vehicle specialists, but hopefully next patch changes the vehicle dynamics. I sometimes feel that I'm the only person that believes gun combat should be more important that vehicle combat in an FPS. With higher vehicle prices and new AV gear I hope that vehicle combat becomes secondary to gun combat, but we'll see. The two should really go hand in hand. You just can't have a gameplay environment of the sizes we're going to be looking at, and the player counts they'll involve without a robust vehicle mechanic to go alongside the infantry gameplay. |
vermacht Doe
93
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Posted - 2012.08.06 04:49:00 -
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Mobius Wyvern wrote:Omnipotent lilmamaj wrote:Arceus Evoxazon wrote:Omnipotent lilmamaj wrote:You aren't alone. This game takes no skill because of these scrubs with tanks. Its certainly unplayable. Oh hey! You must be one of the people sending me hate mail every so often! Nice to meet you! Scrubs like you don't deserve hate mail. Only good players Wow. Yet another person who's butthurt over an MMOFPS having vehicles. You do realize how hopelessly stupid a game like this would be without a heavy vehicle element? Plateau -is- more open, but Craterlake Communication and Biomass had two points that were accessable only to infantry, and one that could be reached by dropship from overhead, but couldn't be reached by ground vehicles. You're going to see all kinds of environments, some which cater to vehicles, and some that do not.
+1 but i think most maps will cater to vehicles because number of players in one match could increase and along with it map size |
Veigar Mordekaiser
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
676
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Posted - 2012.08.06 05:05:00 -
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vermacht Doe wrote:
+1 but i think most maps will cater to vehicles because number of players in one match could increase and along with it map size
There will be maps with areas that will be inaccessible to vehicles, and there will be maps with areas that will be like a red zone for infantry. |
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