No, Dust need a way to hold dedicated players.

And they'll all quit Tak.
*talks from experience*

playing with randoms is only fun for so long, ppl get sick of it and go back to games they can play with friends... after ones "tested" all the stuff that's broken here this becomes redundant/mind numbing

Because they know you'd get bored of the game As long as CCP listens to the FPS crowd and ignores the dedicated EVE players, things may turn out well.

um **** being bored, how how why play an mmo for more than 8 hours when it's in beta. Everything will be wiped.

8 hours is how long most people play a beta, I'm shocked 300 people are still playing at any given time still.

If the majority of the 10k beta keys were given out in PS Home,why isn't at least half of those people playing? This is a serious question that CCP needs to not only address,but answer and rectify.

um.... if 300 people are online at a time, that means about 2000-3000 people are playing each day

Where did you come up with that crazy math?How do you figure that 300 people=2000-3000 per day?

Besides,half of 10,000 is only 5,000,which still doesn't even support your argument.And mind you,that only the PS Home beta keys.What about the other how ever many people that got keys before that,who aren't playing?

A good way to get more people in is to tell your friends and have them tell two friends and they'll two friends and then they'll two friends and then...

dude, the ps home keys were only good for specific weekends i believe. There are certainly not that many with all access keys.

find this kind of unfair.

dedicated eve player brought things to eve that ccp would have said no to.
thats why in eve EVERY player has a say, we have the CSM a group of eve players that want change
us the players tell these CSM peeps and they inturn talk with CCP.
the players drive the future builds and releases. ccp asks us we say yay or nay, they come back with more refined idea and background. csm and ccp sit and work it out using the players of eve.

as fps'ers i hear ya'll talk about camping as a way of life,
here you have a chance for a gaming company to listen and with the muscle of the eve players
re-design FPS forever an open sandbox ,

current fps design,

shoot faces : yep
shoot stuff: yep
play multiplayer and shoot faces: yep.
rinse and repeat the above : yep

now for dust
shoot faces : yep
shoot stuff, steal stuff, spy on folks, free from restraints, : hell yep
mutlimegahuge player : meh am part of a 7,000 player alliance in dust , 24/v24 meh more 7,000 v the universe
rinse and repeat above: hmm its a sandbox nothing is ever the same, all paths lead to others without an end,
you do not play dust 514 you are dust 514

maybe band together with us eve players, form some kind of multi FPS/eve CSM,
two different games being as one is fairly hard, more of this we are fps'ers shizzle does not help one bit.
lets be fair everyone has sworn when you've been camped, its part of the fps game right ?
so lets change that and the other shizzle, to make something worth while and groundbreaking.

The main problem I have with Eve players is that they think they are so smart, yet that doesn't matter in a FPS.

thought is always required in any game, the idea that this will take more though or be too much for people is not an accurate statement. What might be too much for some people is the simple grinding aspect of the game, but making loadouts that maximize profit and such is not difficult, and setting up corps and being in "clans" and owning planets will also not be a big brain squeeze...but none of that will matter unless there are people to play the game, and in order for that to happen CCP needs to make the FPS mechanics on par with the other successful FPS out there.

Where did you come up with that crazy math?How do you figure that 300 people=2000-3000 per day?

Besides,half of 10,000 is only 5,000,which still doesn't even support your argument.And mind you,that only the PS Home beta keys.What about the other how ever many people that got keys before that,who aren't playing?

A good way to get more people in is to tell your friends and have them tell two friends and they'll two friends and then they'll two friends and then...

There's dedicated testers but being dedicated doesnt mean testing the game every weekend when most of the problems have already been adressed; visiting the forums and keeping up to date with information is.

Currently awaiting new build

Wrong again,because that's how I got my key,and it works every single weekend.

Oh,and learn how to properly use the quote function please.

From my knowledge around 20,000 beta codes have been released. I assume 2500-5000 for their early stuff. Incitation only from what I was told by other players, so add pinch of salt. But they did have 1 group before the 5000 codes were sent to EvE players, and registered e-mails. I don't know if that was 5000 to EvE guys AND 5000 to registered e-mails or if it was split. But of then there is the 10000 home keys. That's quite a few keys, in comparison to the number of players on.

And that's my point.

Let's just assume for the sake of argument that so far a grand total of 15,000 keys have been sent out.Not even 1/3 of those are being used now.

You have a maximum of well under 500 people playing at a given time across all servers and game modes.All of the ambush servers never even have a total of 75 people ever playing at once,and the skirmish might hit 400 on a good day with the wind blowing in the right direction.

All that to say that even if you take into accout the time differences of people that are over seas when it's the middle of the night in the US,I find it hard to believe that they have equal numbers,which is about an average of 350-400 players.

So if you give that the benefit of the doubt,then the total is still only 800 players total that play,which is just over half of the keys given.Still bad numbers imo.

If this is an early reflection of what to expect from the open beta,there could be trouble.

No, Dust need a way to hold dedicated players.

I would say that as long as the servers seem to be overtaxed,then we absolutely don't need new players.

Anytime there seems to be over 300 players on the US server,the lag and hit detection is incredible.

CCP needs to make sure that the gaming environment and their network is up to par before worrying about more players.Without a stable gaming environment,nothing else matters because people won't play.I have a friend who has a beta key and won't play anymore because of the framerate and lag,and there are a ton of people out there that feel the same way.

If the majority of the 10k beta keys were given out in PS Home,why isn't at least half of those people playing? This is a serious question that CCP needs to not only address,but answer and rectify.

I got my All access key from Home (the first week it was availible / E3) and played the minute it downloaded. I've been actively coming back to it every now and then, mostly for the events and dropsuits but now I'm getting deeper into it and loving every minute of it.

Need more variation in the beta. I understand that they need to test specific things and all but after a few weekends of playing Dust actively I dropped out of it, haven't played in a couple weeks now and have no will to play it again. If we get communications map with skirmish available I may consider playing again next week, maybe it's available today... meh, nah not really worth checking.

Can't wait til full release though, hope you do a good job CCP.

Honestly they need a better quality of players. I personally am sick of people on my team who play skirmish like its TDM. If they just want to sit on a tower with a drop ship I'll steal it and do what I can to get them killed.