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HowDidThatTaste 461	Posted - 2012.08.03 03:01:00 - [1] - Quote My kdr is going up but my isk is barely breaking even, and most of my stuff is militia expect my gun with a teir 2 suit. I suppose its the anti grind kicking in . But the gentleman that said to name the money amount for your suit is really making sense.
Carilito Algintal Core Gallente Federation 345	Posted - 2012.08.03 03:14:00 - [2] - Quote Be judicial on how you use your good gear and Militia gear to make money. A brutal game can be profitable just treat it like practice.
Zeran Haggai Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire 196	Posted - 2012.08.03 03:18:00 - [3] - Quote yeah it's probably the anti grind kicking in, as at the beginning of a play session i usually make 300-400k on a good game, and by the end of my night it's usually more like 100k. Anti-grind shouldn't affect ISK gain IMO. If they wan't to keep people from gaining huge amounts of SP, fine, but don't make it not worth playing at all by killing our revenue.
michael McG Doomheim 28	Posted - 2012.08.03 03:20:00 - [4] - Quote well i run with level 5 suit with level 5 min gun. and 2 complex shield extenters with 1 complex shield recharger and 2 complex armor repairer and it runs me about 700000 for every 20 set. but right now spend that money have fun and when the game comes out your going to make millions each match so dont worrie about the isk.
Omnipotent lilmamaj Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire 205	Posted - 2012.08.03 03:32:00 - [5] - Quote If you want to use the high end stuff you can't die period. Limit yourself to one or two deaths a game. If you get more deaths than this you won't be making enough capitol unless you get over forty kills. Unfortunately you have to do this or you will go broke just like I did. Now I really have to limit myself
Stile451 Red Star. 76	Posted - 2012.08.03 04:06:00 - [6] - Quote I use an advanced suit with prototype weapons with various non free extras and make more than enough money to cover costs. If I were to do that with prototype suits I wouldn't be able to afford it. What has been suggested in the past is that players won't use their best gear unless they're in a corp battle.
Tbone322 D3ath D3alers RISE of LEGION 124	Posted - 2012.08.03 04:15:00 - [7] - Quote At the risk of not being a team player, I admit I decide what gear i'm gonna use within about the first 30 seconds of a match. If i'm the only one with a mic and I see tower campers and snipers all over the place, cheap gear it is. Running AV helps bring in the isk, especially when the other team keeps calling in easy to kill militia vehicles.
Icy Tiger 496	Posted - 2012.08.03 04:19:00 - [8] - Quote Omnipotent lilmamaj wrote: If you want to use the high end stuff you can't die period. Limit yourself to one or two deaths a game. If you get more deaths than this you won't be making enough capitol unless you get over forty kills. Unfortunately you have to do this or you will go broke just like I did. Now I really have to limit myself I dont see reasons for limited high end dropsuits, they cant be all that expensive, Now when you lose tanks, thats when money becomes a problem. Ive been trying to experiment with tank fits recently, and went from 15 million isk to 6 million in about a few hours. Damn.
Lurchasaurus SVER True Blood Unclaimed. 808	Posted - 2012.08.03 04:52:00 - [9] - Quote Rule of thumb: If you cant afford to lose it, dont use it. not everyone is as good as others. some people wont be able to afford rolling proto all the time. also, itll be way harder at release dude, market prices will go up and isk gains will go down.
Martin0 Brancaleone Maphia Clan Corporation CRONOS. 191	Posted - 2012.08.03 05:18:00 - [10] - Quote N-¦1 rule of eve: Don't fly what you cannot afford to lose. Working as intended. P.S. before someone says "this isn't eve... look at the dust logo. -EVE- Dust514

Garrett Blacknova Codex Troopers 1849	Posted - 2012.08.03 06:25:00 - [11] - Quote Yes, gear gets expensive, and dying in expensive gear also gets expensive. Try and only use the expensive gear when you already know you'll break even wearing it.
xprotoman23 Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 1452	Posted - 2012.08.03 06:36:00 - [12] - Quote i'm trying to figure out how people struggle to afford their loadouts? Don't you earn like 350-500k ISK each game?
Lurchasaurus SVER True Blood Unclaimed. 808	Posted - 2012.08.03 06:39:00 - [13] - Quote HowDidThatTaste wrote: My kdr is going up but my isk is barely breaking even, and most of my stuff is militia expect my gun with a teir 2 suit. I suppose its the anti grind kicking in . But the gentleman that said to name the money amount for your suit is really making sense. LOL there is no diminishing returns for ISK......your just not chaotic enough. Try destroying more expensive stuff (vehicles, installations, proto fits) in order for more ISK gains. There isnt much money to be made simply killing scrubs and hacking. Im pretty sure those give more SP than anything.
Belzeebub Santana SVER True Blood Unclaimed. 409	Posted - 2012.08.03 06:43:00 - [14] - Quote Ya I've been floating around 16 mill and run proto even when getting stomped. Don't die more than 5 times a round and usually none at all. I'll hi tail it outta a gun fight I know I can't win, and come back with reinforcements!
Johnny Guilt Algintal Core Gallente Federation 50	Posted - 2012.08.03 06:57:00 - [15] - Quote .
Johnny Guilt Algintal Core Gallente Federation 50	Posted - 2012.08.03 07:03:00 - [16] - Quote epitomized your fits for what your doing.just dont for over 30k and youll see profit.(dropsuit wise)
Rhadiem Algintal Core Gallente Federation 496	Posted - 2012.08.03 07:04:00 - [17] - Quote The more expensive your gear, the more conservatively you need to play to break even. If you like to be the suicidal hero, then you'll probably want to tone your gear down a notch. That's what I like about this game.. you can have sweet stuff.. but whenever you pull it out, you will likely lose it. I often switch between top gear and trash gear that I've tailored for whatever thing I'm doing. I probably have 5-6 setups I use regularly, and 3-4 per vehicle.
Deskalkulos Ildigan CrimeWave Syndicate 115	Posted - 2012.08.03 07:57:00 - [18] - Quote honestly i dont look if i make a plus or a minus the round . . . my overall isk count keeps increasing, so i dont have a problem with restocking when needed . . . also i restock not unto 20 but 50 pieces . . . that means i can brush of some bad rounds. On the other hand one good round is enough to restock a fit to 50 units . . .
Carilito Algintal Core Gallente Federation 345	Posted - 2012.08.03 07:58:00 - [19] - Quote xprotoman23 wrote: i'm trying to figure out how people struggle to afford their loadouts? Don't you earn like 350-500k ISK each game? Honestly this
Tak Kak 22	Posted - 2012.08.03 08:04:00 - [20] - Quote The recent CSM minute discussed the relative price of weapons. My thought is that if you want higher tier stuff and have leveled in it and have even more equipment you will need large contracts provided threw Lowsec or Null. Other than that you can take less risk, or find a fit like a sniper to build ISK up with...my Freedom mass driver and Logi suit have 10 million at the moment , I don't need to spend alot because I am always supporting my team from the back lines...or I am in ambush on top of some roof.

HowDidThatTaste 461	Posted - 2012.08.03 10:19:00 - [21] - Quote Belzeebub Santana wrote: Ya I've been floating around 16 mill and run proto even when getting stomped. Don't die more than 5 times a round and usually none at all. I'll hi tail it outta a gun fight I know I can't win, and come back with reinforcements! Will you be my friend and protect me.
Mr TamiyaCowboy Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation 121	Posted - 2012.08.03 10:28:00 - [22] - Quote in around 17 days i have made 10m isk. in around 17 days i died 800+ times in a single match i make around 60k - 250k isk in a single match i make 0-60,000 sp ( best ever i made) 50 units of my assault suit I fitting = 250-450k no proto shizzle and 4m sp on the tree thats testing, not running around in godmode proto suits isk is not so hard to come about, but SP is a dog to gain with horsebull camping and those stupid remote explosive shizzle
MR-NASTY Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 87	Posted - 2012.08.03 10:28:00 - [23] - Quote HowDidThatTaste wrote: [quote=Belzeebub Santana]Ya I've been floating around 16 mill and run proto even when getting stomped. Don't die more than 5 times a round and usually none at all. I'll hi tail it outta a gun fight I know I can't win, and come back with reinforcements! n Guns are neat little things, aren't they? They can kill extraordinary people with very little effort.
vermacht Doe 93	Posted - 2012.08.03 10:47:00 - [24] - Quote Mr TamiyaCowboy wrote: in around 17 days i have made 10m isk. in around 17 days i died 800+ times in a single match i make around 60k - 250k isk in a single match i make 0-60,000 sp ( best ever i made) 50 units of my assault suit I fitting = 250-450k no proto shizzle and 4m sp on the tree thats testing, not running around in godmode proto suits isk is not so hard to come about, but SP is a dog to gain with horsebull camping and those stupid remote explosive shizzle Maybe you doing something wrong because 50000 is the lowest sp i get if i play from the start I average about 90000 per match
Taz-666 RestlessSpirits 14	Posted - 2012.08.03 11:43:00 - [25] - Quote Lurchasaurus wrote: LOL there is no diminishing returns for ISK......your just not chaotic enough. Try destroying more expensive stuff (vehicles, installations, proto fits) in order for more ISK gains. There isnt much money to be made simply killing scrubs and hacking. Im pretty sure those give more SP than anything. I expect there will be alot of players who use their best gear just after the diminishing returns effect has been reset to maximise their SP gain to the times it does most benefit. When thier SP gains have tailed off they will probably use cheaper loadouts that they can afford to replace. This is probably why isk appears to tail off along with SP.
Mobius Wyvern BetaMax. 1216	Posted - 2012.08.03 11:47:00 - [26] - Quote HowDidThatTaste wrote: My kdr is going up but my isk is barely breaking even, and most of my stuff is militia expect my gun with a teir 2 suit. I suppose its the anti grind kicking in . But the gentleman that said to name the money amount for your suit is really making sense. You didn't read the CSM Meeting minutes, did you? Cracked up at the idea of suits costing as much as a frigate in EVE (5-700k). Good thing that never came to fruition. That would of course been part and parcel of our ISK rewards being MUCH higher, but the pricing wouldn't have made any sense.


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