DUST Search - Getting owned all the time is getting frustrating.

Cameron StarGazer wrote:

TEBOW BAGGINS wrote:

get on my dropship bro u get sum killz

When I'm in a dropship or tank I can pretty much lay waste to anything in the way!

Also had a period of doing really well in my heavy with a forge gun which I unlocked last week.

I have 9,035,412 SP

About 6m in ISK

Demolitions L4
Grenadier L2

Amarr Heavy Dropsuit L1
Caldari Assult Dropsuit L1
Dropsuit Command L4
Gellente Scout Dropsuit L1
Minmatar Logistics Dropsuit L1

Endurance Mobility and Vigor all L2

Drop Uplink L2
Electronics L4
Electronis Upgrades L3
Nanocircuitry L3
Sensor Upgrades L3

Energy Grid Upgrades L3
Engineering L4
Shiled Adaption L1
Shield Emission Systems L2
Shield Operation L2
Shield Upgrades L3

Heavy Weapon upgrades all L2
Light Weapons upgrades all L3
Sidearm Upgrades all L4

All Handheld weapon skills L3

Weaponry L4

Armor Upgrades L2
Mechanices L3
Repair Systems L2

Turret Operation all L3

Turret Upgrades L3

Acceleration Control L1
Caldari Lav L1
Gallente LAV L1
Vehicle Command L3

Problem is, I just dont know what I want to specialise in!

Not a massive FPS shooter player, have a few but never been to heavy on them.

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Cameron StarGazer 63	Posted - 2012.08.02 23:26:00 - [1] - Quote Been playing the game now for two months, and recently, I'm just getting utterly and totally owned all the time. Now I aint a bad player, but toe to toe with many people I just get wasted before I even have a chance to react. Last game 0K 14D.... that was the worst game I have ever played. Started a new game, same thing happening, and I rage quitted. I have been working my way up on SP, but now it seems most players now have the top end gear, I'm still running around in Type I suits with standard weaponry and my K/D ratio is going down faster than I can keep up with it. I am really struggling to keep going with this game now. Need to turn it around.
Mr Funless Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 191	Posted - 2012.08.02 23:29:00 - [2] - Quote If you've been playing for 2 months in beta and still use t1 gear and newb weapons, then you're doing something wrong.
Laheon Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 153	Posted - 2012.08.02 23:29:00 - [3] - Quote You need to start working on a new playstyle, if your old one isn't working for you. I've got basic type-II gear dropsuits,advanced AR and a proto SL. All the rest is either militia BPO's or basic equipment. My last game was the first one in a while that I went negative on my kdr. I usually go break even, even in my bad games. Best game I've had was 19/2, as an infantryman. You just need to work out what works for you, and not to try the same old stuff.
Mavado V Noriega SyNergy Gaming 2283	Posted - 2012.08.02 23:30:00 - [4] - Quote u been playing for 2 months and still using type-I suits? now i am still using standard type-II suits as well but thats just because i already did the whole proto assault thing last build and i wanna push myself im still managing to keep a solid kd but its not easy if u are struggling that bad.........and 0-14 is pretty bad i think its time for u to upgrade to better gear my friend
Carilito Algintal Core Gallente Federation 345	Posted - 2012.08.02 23:31:00 - [5] - Quote Cameron StarGazer wrote: Been playing the game now for two months, and recently, I'm just getting utterly and totally owned all the time. Now I aint a bad player, but toe to toe with many people I just get wasted before I even have a chance to react. Last game 0K 14D.... that was the worst game I have ever played. Started a new game, same thing happening, and I rage quitted. I have been working my way up on SP, but now it seems most players now have the top end gear, I'm still running around in Type I suits with standard weaponry and my K/D ratio is going down faster than I can keep up with it. I am really struggling to keep going with this game now. Need to turn it around. ROFL
Mike Gunnzito 111	Posted - 2012.08.02 23:31:00 - [6] - Quote I'm sure you've got enough SP and isk to use ATLEAST adv level stuff. Most players are using that or proto level gear now, so tbh, unless you're considerably more skilled than them, you'll need to start using something more than militia armor/weapons.
Cameron StarGazer 63	Posted - 2012.08.02 23:33:00 - [7] - Quote The main problem I'm having is I am level 3 on most things now. I dont get a lot of time to play, maybe 8/9 games a week. Now I get into a game and unless I have a really good one (had a great one earlier got 14/3) then I get 100k SP, but most games now I only get about 30-40k because I keep getting shot to pieces, it means that I have been grinding and grinding and grinding to build up SP, but to unlock the higher level kit, I need to play 4-5 games before I can get at it and its taking FOREVER.
Mike Gunnzito 111	Posted - 2012.08.02 23:38:00 - [8] - Quote Cameron StarGazer wrote: The main problem I'm having is I am level 3 on most things now. I dont get a lot of time to play, maybe 8/9 games a week. Now I get into a game and unless I have a really good one (had a great one earlier got 14/3) then I get 100k SP, but most games now I only get about 30-40k because I keep getting shot to pieces, it means that I have been grinding and grinding and grinding to build up SP, but to unlock the higher level kit, I need to play 4-5 games before I can get at it and its taking FOREVER. Ok, there's no reason you can't get AT LEAST 50k SP in most matches. (and 100k SP a little more often) Don't just focus on throwing yourself into gunfights. (especially if you're going 0-14) Hack CRUs, hack Turrets, cap objectives, throw down nanohives for teammates, etc. All these will help. If you focus more on doing this, then you'll prob boost ur SP by at least 10k.
Carilito Algintal Core Gallente Federation 345	Posted - 2012.08.02 23:40:00 - [9] - Quote Cameron StarGazer wrote: The main problem I'm having is I am level 3 on most things now. I dont get a lot of time to play, maybe 8/9 games a week. Now I get into a game and unless I have a really good one (had a great one earlier got 14/3) then I get 100k SP, but most games now I only get about 30-40k because I keep getting shot to pieces, it means that I have been grinding and grinding and grinding to build up SP, but to unlock the higher level kit, I need to play 4-5 games before I can get at it and its taking FOREVER. Level 5 and above in just a few skills will up your k/d ratio but I do pretty good in militia you just cant expect to rambo him down; thats only if your gear is better. The top tier weapons are much easier to use then their militia cousins, a proto forge can kill, a militia forge will only kill on dead on hits and then cant be in a heavy suit.
Pokey Dravon OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 583	Posted - 2012.08.02 23:41:00 - [10] - Quote Post your current skills and what your usual dropsuit fitting is, lets figure out what you're doing wrong.

Spushkin Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 28	Posted - 2012.08.02 23:42:00 - [11] - Quote One thing I've found to help out if you don't have time to play and people are using high-level equipment and you are not is to hop in a decent tank. Get some kills while safely tucked away and you should be getting a lot more sp and dying a lot less per game.
TEBOW BAGGINS FIREFLY ATLANTIS ENTERPRISES UNLIMITED TACNET 549	Posted - 2012.08.02 23:43:00 - [12] - Quote get on my dropship bro u get sum killz
Cpl Quartz 127	Posted - 2012.08.02 23:45:00 - [13] - Quote this is something ccp need to look into more if it's justified or older players gear will just scare off newer players before they decide to stay. are new players going to be bundled into the same servers as oder geared people?
The Polish Hammer Doomheim 373	Posted - 2012.08.02 23:47:00 - [14] - Quote Mike Gunnzito wrote: Ok, there's no reason you can't get AT LEAST 50k SP in most matches. (and 100k SP a little more often) Don't just focus on throwing yourself into gunfights. (especially if you're going 0-14) Hack CRUs, hack Turrets, cap objectives, throw down nanohives for teammates, etc. All these will help. If you focus more on doing this, then you'll prob boost ur SP by at least 10k. Yes yes yes yes yes yes. And also, yes. I don't think people realize that stuff like CRU hacking, turret hacking, etc factors into your SP/ISK totals at the end of the match.
Maken Tosch 263	Posted - 2012.08.02 23:49:00 - [15] - Quote Perhaps it's time for you to change tactics. Like others said, try hacking, assisting, etc. Maybe being a sniper that is well hidden would help you. You might not get many kills considering how hard it is right now to be a skilled sniper, but at least you won't get shot to pieces so often. The hard part is finding a decent sniping spot that hasn't already been known by everyone else.
Pokey Dravon OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 583	Posted - 2012.08.02 23:49:00 - [16] - Quote I think what the problem here is that he's spread his SP out over a lot of different things instead of specializing, which I think will be an unavoidable problem for most new players. Specialization in a game where you can't respec is very important, and unfortunately people will learn the hard way that those who specialize will consistently mop the floor with those who don't. Thats why I'm interested to see where the OP spent his SP.
Carilito Algintal Core Gallente Federation 345	Posted - 2012.08.02 23:53:00 - [17] - Quote To be a good brawler in CQC you need high skill to fit high shields regen, a creodon with the proficiency/weaponry skills maxed, and then you can hold an objective from a few guys any less you need a team...
Cameron StarGazer 63	Posted - 2012.08.03 00:15:00 - [18] - Quote TEBOW BAGGINS wrote: get on my dropship bro u get sum killz When I'm in a dropship or tank I can pretty much lay waste to anything in the way! Also had a period of doing really well in my heavy with a forge gun which I unlocked last week. I have 9,035,412 SP About 6m in ISK Demolitions L4 Grenadier L2 Amarr Heavy Dropsuit L1 Caldari Assult Dropsuit L1 Dropsuit Command L4 Gellente Scout Dropsuit L1 Minmatar Logistics Dropsuit L1 Endurance Mobility and Vigor all L2 Drop Uplink L2 Electronics L4 Electronis Upgrades L3 Nanocircuitry L3 Sensor Upgrades L3 Energy Grid Upgrades L3 Engineering L4 Shiled Adaption L1 Shield Emission Systems L2 Shield Operation L2 Shield Upgrades L3 Heavy Weapon upgrades all L2 Light Weapons upgrades all L3 Sidearm Upgrades all L4 All Handheld weapon skills L3 Weaponry L4 Armor Upgrades L2 Mechanices L3 Repair Systems L2 Turret Operation all L3 Turret Upgrades L3 Acceleration Control L1 Caldari Lav L1 Gallente LAV L1 Vehicle Command L3 Problem is, I just dont know what I want to specialise in! Not a massive FPS shooter player, have a few but never been to heavy on them.
STB-stlcarlos989 EV Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic 936	Posted - 2012.08.03 00:15:00 - [19] - Quote Dude DO NOT I repeat DO NOT spread your points out, SPECIALIZE. For that matter specialize in something you're good at, not everyone is a great AR specialist. With a prototype assault suit with lvl 5 mechanics and lvl 5 shield management, 3 complex shield extenders my HP is 683. With lvl 5 AR proficiency and weaponry 5 the creodron will do Just over 500 DPS and the duvolle will do just over 600 DPS and thats with NO damage mods. The trick is to pick a skill and max it out not to just spread your points around, If you're not great with an AR try something else out, SMG, Shotgun, Mass Driver, Sniper, AV, Vehicles, Logistics. This game is a world of possibilities.
Cameron StarGazer 63	Posted - 2012.08.03 00:18:00 - [20] - Quote Will say thou, in attacking missions I like to drop in behind enemy lines using a milita dropship, hack a target and get the hell out of there while leaving a nice surprise for anyone that doesn't spot the remote charge left behind. In defending, I generally use heavy suits and try to take out vehicles. I generally end up switching between a generic scout capture suit, and all purpose assault suit and a heavy suit with a forge gun.

testguy242 44	Posted - 2012.08.03 00:23:00 - [21] - Quote Cpl Quartz wrote: this is something ccp need to look into more if it's justified or older players gear will just scare off newer players before they decide to stay. are new players going to be bundled into the same servers as oder geared people? DUST will connect to the same supercomputing cluster as EVE uses. There won't be servers. One of the best and most interesting thing about EVE is that everyone is in the same world on the same "server".
Daddrobit Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz RISE of LEGION 277	Posted - 2012.08.03 00:30:00 - [22] - Quote Holy crap, I can't imagine grinding out 9 mil+ SP on standard suits alone. And that is some extreme skill spreading you've done to yourself. Invest into assault suits 2 and get yourself that type II dropsuit ASAP. Then invest into smg's as you already have all sidearms to 4. You should see an immediate improvement to your killing and survivability.
Carilito Algintal Core Gallente Federation 345	Posted - 2012.08.03 00:35:00 - [23] - Quote Cameron StarGazer wrote: TEBOW BAGGINS wrote: get on my dropship bro u get sum killz When I'm in a dropship or tank I can pretty much lay waste to anything in the way! Also had a period of doing really well in my heavy with a forge gun which I unlocked last week. I have 9,035,412 SP About 6m in ISK Demolitions L4 Grenadier L2 Amarr Heavy Dropsuit L1 Caldari Assult Dropsuit L1 Dropsuit Command L4 Gellente Scout Dropsuit L1 Minmatar Logistics Dropsuit L1 Endurance Mobility and Vigor all L2 Drop Uplink L2 Electronics L4 Electronis Upgrades L3 Nanocircuitry L3 Sensor Upgrades L3 Energy Grid Upgrades L3 Engineering L4 Shiled Adaption L1 Shield Emission Systems L2 Shield Operation L2 Shield Upgrades L3 Heavy Weapon upgrades all L2 Light Weapons upgrades all L3 Sidearm Upgrades all L4 All Handheld weapon skills L3 Weaponry L4 Armor Upgrades L2 Mechanices L3 Repair Systems L2 Turret Operation all L3 Turret Upgrades L3 Acceleration Control L1 Caldari Lav L1 Gallente LAV L1 Vehicle Command L3 Problem is, I just dont know what I want to specialise in! Not a massive FPS shooter player, have a few but never been to heavy on them. Wow indecisiveness to the max, your a bit of the way to a sweet LAV skill set.
Sw3RvE 25	Posted - 2012.08.03 00:40:00 - [24] - Quote Cameron StarGazer wrote: Been playing the game now for two months, and recently, I'm just getting utterly and totally owned all the time. Now I aint a bad player, but toe to toe with many people I just get wasted before I even have a chance to react. Last game 0K 14D.... that was the worst game I have ever played. Started a new game, same thing happening, and I rage quitted. I have been working my way up on SP, but now it seems most players now have the top end gear, I'm still running around in Type I suits with standard weaponry and my K/D ratio is going down faster than I can keep up with it. I am really struggling to keep going with this game now. Need to turn it around. dont waste sp on a proto suit. type II suit is good. the proto suit costs too much for me. id rather buy an LAV with that ISK.
Flux Raeder WarRavens 83	Posted - 2012.08.03 00:41:00 - [25] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: Perhaps it's time for you to change tactics. Like others said, try hacking, assisting, etc. Maybe being a sniper that is well hidden would help you. You might not get many kills considering how hard it is right now to be a skilled sniper, but at least you won't get shot to pieces so often. The hard part is finding a decent sniping spot that hasn't already been known by everyone else. Not so hard actually, and I was going to suggest this. I have found that the Charge sniper rifle can be one of the deadliest weapons in the game once you learn how to use it. On defending rounds I usually post out on a tower and defend Objective B while also sniping out anyone trying to take over any blasters/missile launchers, it also gives me access to the closest enemy spawn and all the area that they have to traverse to even get a chance to hack any of our objectives, I usually get 10-20 kills with 0-2 deaths and 50k-100k sp. For the isk and sp I would suggest making yourself a scout suit with remote explosive shotgun and SMG so you can get in and hack while planting RE's to keep your territory. This is mainly for attacking battles but can also be used when your team can't keep control of the territory and you need to infiltrate.
Rhadiem Algintal Core Gallente Federation 496	Posted - 2012.08.03 04:24:00 - [26] - Quote I suggest either prototype Assault Rifle or prototype Swarm Launcher if you want to kill vehicles. If you're a seasoned FPS on console, I'd suggest the AR. Do this first. Then focus on getting the complex shields or armor plating, depending on what dropsuit you use. I'm scout focused so fwiw. I'd then focus on at least the advanced dropsuit (the tier below prototype, whatever it's name is, I forget) That should hold all the items you can use. This can help you a lot. I'm basically maxed in vehicle skills, but play Anti-Vehicle with the swarm launcher a lot, and just run around in the Merc pack Dragonfly suit which is pretty horrible.. I just avoid areas of high enemy infantry and AV snipe. If you are new to console, you may want to wait for keyboard + mouse in the next update, or spend some time tweaking your controller. Sensitivity adjustment affects a lot, and there are things that you can put on the analog sticks that extend them, giving you finer control, allowing minute angle adjustments. I use the FPS Freeq SNIPR ones and the CQB ones are nice too, but more subtle. Hope this helps.
Icy Tiger 496	Posted - 2012.08.03 04:32:00 - [27] - Quote Demolitions 4 is useless, Dropsuit Command 4 is useless. Wow those are a waste of SP.
Lurchasaurus SVER True Blood Unclaimed. 808	Posted - 2012.08.03 04:40:00 - [28] - Quote being a jack of all trades is the worst thing you can do..... find something your good at and then let your friends come in for support. once you finish with your role, then start spreading to different skills.
TiMeSpLiT--TeR Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore 326	Posted - 2012.08.03 04:41:00 - [29] - Quote Cameron StarGazer wrote: TEBOW BAGGINS wrote: get on my dropship bro u get sum killz When I'm in a dropship or tank I can pretty much lay waste to anything in the way! Also had a period of doing really well in my heavy with a forge gun which I unlocked last week. I have 9,035,412 SP About 6m in ISK Demolitions L4 Grenadier L2 Amarr Heavy Dropsuit L1 Caldari Assult Dropsuit L1 Dropsuit Command L4 Gellente Scout Dropsuit L1 Minmatar Logistics Dropsuit L1 Endurance Mobility and Vigor all L2 Drop Uplink L2 Electronics L4 Electronis Upgrades L3 Nanocircuitry L3 Sensor Upgrades L3 Energy Grid Upgrades L3 Engineering L4 Shiled Adaption L1 Shield Emission Systems L2 Shield Operation L2 Shield Upgrades L3 Heavy Weapon upgrades all L2 Light Weapons upgrades all L3 Sidearm Upgrades all L4 All Handheld weapon skills L3 Weaponry L4 Armor Upgrades L2 Mechanices L3 Repair Systems L2 Turret Operation all L3 Turret Upgrades L3 Acceleration Control L1 Caldari Lav L1 Gallente LAV L1 Vehicle Command L3 Problem is, I just dont know what I want to specialise in! Not a massive FPS shooter player, have a few but never been to heavy on them. Wow, your skill points are all spread out. Handheld weapon is basically useless. Electronics for what? Grenade upgrades are useless right now because some of the grenades aren't exploding. Also the grenade throw needs tweaking. Your dropsuits are weak.
Sandromin Hes Sand Mercenary Corps Inc. 204	Posted - 2012.08.03 05:08:00 - [30] - Quote i've never used an adv. or proto suit tbh. I thought of them as not worth it. I have 9m+ SP, and i'm still running militia suits. However, Proto Tactical Duvolle and the Toxic SMG... goes a long way. Right now, working on tank skills, I've almost maxed rifle and working on forge, and pretty much a ton of other buffer skills... and never bothered to use anything past a militia suit. Meh, I doubt I need it. Saves me money for the tanks I'm going to test.



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