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blqkt2011
RestlessSpirits
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Posted - 2012.08.01 11:59:00 -
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We can't give you feedback with the server down like this. I really need to do some beta testing today but I can't because the server's are down. CCP you've had 3 days with the server and now it's time to share with the rest of us, so please quit fooling around and turn them on. It's our turn now........ |
Tak Kak
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Posted - 2012.08.01 12:00:00 -
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Will you sign a petition to get the servers on? |
Laheon
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.08.01 12:04:00 -
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blqkt2011 wrote:I really need to do some beta testing today
Good justification |
Chris Gaechmoor
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.08.01 12:06:00 -
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I support this.... |
blqkt2011
RestlessSpirits
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Posted - 2012.08.01 12:08:00 -
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Tak Kak wrote:Will you sign a petition to get the servers on? They keep deleting my threads about turning the servers on, so yes I'd sign if it would get their attention as to the needs of their beta testers. Personally I think that the servers are ready but that they are using them for closed games so that they can play amongst themselves. It's either that or they're afraid of being teabagged which I read in another thread. LOL But they really need to turn them on -- cause how can I recommend the merc pack to friends if my friends are unable to play like us ..??? |
Laheon
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.08.01 12:10:00 -
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They won't be on because CCP will be discussing data obtained from the last weekend amongst themselves. They monitor the game and collect data, not relying solely on people to tell them bugs.
They wouldn't be able to do this if the servers were on all week - they'd have no time to discuss and analyse data. This data does help fixing balance issues. |
blqkt2011
RestlessSpirits
25
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Posted - 2012.08.01 12:15:00 -
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Laheon wrote:They won't be on because CCP will be discussing data obtained from the last weekend amongst themselves. They monitor the game and collect data, not relying solely on people to tell them bugs.
They wouldn't be able to do this if the servers were on all week - they'd have no time to discuss and analyse data. This data does help fixing balance issues. They've had 3 day's to check the server's for data and if it means OT for them so we can do more testing then so be it. Hell I pull 12+ hours a day testing for them when the servers are up, so they should have to do some OT too inorder for us to test more. |
Laheon
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
153
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Posted - 2012.08.01 12:21:00 -
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blqkt2011 wrote:They've had 3 day's to check the server's for data and if it means OT for them so we can do more testing then so be it. Hell I pull 12+ hours a day testing for them when the servers are up, so they should have to do some OT too inorder for us to test more.
Haha, if only. CCP is one of the only games companies who actively try to look out for their employees. You often hear of employees working for 100-120 hours a week to hit a deadline. Frankly, I'd prefer CCP take their time about analysing data and developing the game, so that we can have a decent relationship with our devs instead of them being half dead all the time. |
Tak Kak
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Posted - 2012.08.01 12:26:00 -
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Laheon wrote:blqkt2011 wrote:They've had 3 day's to check the server's for data and if it means OT for them so we can do more testing then so be it. Hell I pull 12+ hours a day testing for them when the servers are up, so they should have to do some OT too inorder for us to test more. Haha, if only. CCP is one of the only games companies who actively try to look out for their employees. You often hear of employees working for 100-120 hours a week to hit a deadline. Frankly, I'd prefer CCP take their time about analysing data and developing the game, so that we can have a decent relationship with our devs instead of them being half dead all the time.
If the company who pays the employees refuses to work them to death, I can't force them into sweat shop conditions threw my dollar? This is madness..this is spar... |
Laheon
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
153
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Posted - 2012.08.01 12:31:00 -
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Tak Kak wrote:If the company who pays the employees refuses to work them to death, I can't force them into sweat shop conditions threw my dollar? This is madness..this is spar...
Valve frequently tells employees to take a holiday, as they're working too hard. Granted, they're known for valve time, but they're also known for their customer and employee love. People want to work for them simply because they realise their employees are human too. Same with Google.
There are horror stories out there of a small smartphone games company, forcing a team of four or so into consecutive 120 hour weeks just to get a game released.
I'd much prefer to buy, and play, a game from a company who care more for their employees than for profits. |
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blqkt2011
RestlessSpirits
25
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Posted - 2012.08.01 12:33:00 -
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Laheon wrote:blqkt2011 wrote:They've had 3 day's to check the server's for data and if it means OT for them so we can do more testing then so be it. Hell I pull 12+ hours a day testing for them when the servers are up, so they should have to do some OT too inorder for us to test more. Haha, if only. CCP is one of the only games companies who actively try to look out for their employees. You often hear of employees working for 100-120 hours a week to hit a deadline. Frankly, I'd prefer CCP take their time about analysing data and developing the game, so that we can have a decent relationship with our devs instead of them being half dead all the time. No-one said that they had to play the other 4 days with us... They can keep checking the test data while we do more testing and then play with us on friday which is the end of the work week. I'm sure they were able to get all the data off the servers in those 3 days. |
Sephoran Griffith
Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic
96
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Posted - 2012.08.01 12:38:00 -
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blqkt2011 wrote:Laheon wrote:blqkt2011 wrote:They've had 3 day's to check the server's for data and if it means OT for them so we can do more testing then so be it. Hell I pull 12+ hours a day testing for them when the servers are up, so they should have to do some OT too inorder for us to test more. Haha, if only. CCP is one of the only games companies who actively try to look out for their employees. You often hear of employees working for 100-120 hours a week to hit a deadline. Frankly, I'd prefer CCP take their time about analysing data and developing the game, so that we can have a decent relationship with our devs instead of them being half dead all the time. No-one said that they had to play the other 4 days with us... They can keep checking the test data while we do more testing and then play with us on friday which is the end of the work week. I'm sure they were able to get all the data off the servers in those 3 days. The servers will be on based on the schedule laid out previously. These kinds of posts are the reason people are reluctant to give a little extra sometimes, because of the worry that people like you, and others on this thread, will assume it is always possible and demand it. Just chill out. Complaining about CCP following the rules that they set in the beginning is just ridiculous. |
Chris Gaechmoor
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
76
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Posted - 2012.08.01 12:39:00 -
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Most likely, CCP grabs the data daily on weekend during maintenance.. |
Laheon
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
153
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Posted - 2012.08.01 12:40:00 -
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blqkt2011 wrote:No-one said that they had to play the other 4 days with us... They can keep checking the test data while we do more testing and then play with us on friday which is the end of the work week. I'm sure they were able to get all the data off the servers in those 3 days.
It's a well known corporate strategy. I'd be happy with a full week of the servers being up, but on the other hand, I can understand why they have the servers up for weekends only.
Edit: @Chris - Likely, but they won't have had time to analyse it fully. For example, it'll be a breakdown of types of damage, e.g. 20% AR, 15% small missile turret, 10% grenades, etc. For the 1 million kill weekend, there will have been over 400 million points of damage dealt to dropsuits alone. It'll also help to analyse trends of weapons and vehicles used, where and when uplinks and nanohives are used...
Lots and lots of data to analyse. Not sure they can do it all in one day, before they have to analyse the next set.
Not that they do this, but it's probable they do. Most games companies with an online component record a lot of data from online matches. |
blqkt2011
RestlessSpirits
25
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Posted - 2012.08.01 12:46:00 -
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Sephoran Griffith wrote:blqkt2011 wrote:Laheon wrote:blqkt2011 wrote:They've had 3 day's to check the server's for data and if it means OT for them so we can do more testing then so be it. Hell I pull 12+ hours a day testing for them when the servers are up, so they should have to do some OT too inorder for us to test more. Haha, if only. CCP is one of the only games companies who actively try to look out for their employees. You often hear of employees working for 100-120 hours a week to hit a deadline. Frankly, I'd prefer CCP take their time about analysing data and developing the game, so that we can have a decent relationship with our devs instead of them being half dead all the time. No-one said that they had to play the other 4 days with us... They can keep checking the test data while we do more testing and then play with us on friday which is the end of the work week. I'm sure they were able to get all the data off the servers in those 3 days. The servers will be on based on the schedule laid out previously. These kinds of posts are the reason people are reluctant to give a little extra sometimes, because of the worry that people like you, and others on this thread, will assume it is always possible and demand it. Just chill out. Complaining about CCP following the rules that they set in the beginning is just ridiculous. I'm not complaining about CCP, but I would like to play the beta as much as possible especially since I bought the merc pack for $20.00. Don't mistake my comments as complaining when all I'm trying to do is to get some game time in. I didn't recieve a free beta key so I'm within my rights to say that I'd like more testing time. |
Ad ski
IMPSwarm Negative-Feedback
209
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Posted - 2012.08.01 12:46:00 -
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3 days to grab data, sort it all out, look at it, discuss it, look at possible changes, implement those changes. Really 3 days is not that long at all to do all that (depending how many staff are working on that part). I'd rather them take their time to get it the best it can be then to rush through it and have a below sub par game. |
blqkt2011
RestlessSpirits
25
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Posted - 2012.08.01 12:56:00 -
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Ad ski wrote:3 days to grab data, sort it all out, look at it, discuss it, look at possible changes, implement those changes. Really 3 days is not that long at all to do all that (depending how many staff are working on that part). I'd rather them take their time to get it the best it can be then to rush through it and have a below sub par game. Three days to grab the data from the servers there alway's Thurs. and friday to sort the data out. Once the data is removed one would think that the servers would be available again for testing. One day more or less would not be enough time to make the changes that your talking about and that would have to take place on the next server down time. So why not turn the servers on while they sort out the data and make any hot fixes that are needed ..?? |
Sephoran Griffith
Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic
96
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Posted - 2012.08.01 12:56:00 -
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blqkt2011 wrote:Sephoran Griffith wrote:blqkt2011 wrote:Laheon wrote:blqkt2011 wrote:They've had 3 day's to check the server's for data and if it means OT for them so we can do more testing then so be it. Hell I pull 12+ hours a day testing for them when the servers are up, so they should have to do some OT too inorder for us to test more. Haha, if only. CCP is one of the only games companies who actively try to look out for their employees. You often hear of employees working for 100-120 hours a week to hit a deadline. Frankly, I'd prefer CCP take their time about analysing data and developing the game, so that we can have a decent relationship with our devs instead of them being half dead all the time. No-one said that they had to play the other 4 days with us... They can keep checking the test data while we do more testing and then play with us on friday which is the end of the work week. I'm sure they were able to get all the data off the servers in those 3 days. The servers will be on based on the schedule laid out previously. These kinds of posts are the reason people are reluctant to give a little extra sometimes, because of the worry that people like you, and others on this thread, will assume it is always possible and demand it. Just chill out. Complaining about CCP following the rules that they set in the beginning is just ridiculous. I'm not complaining about CCP, but I would like to play the beta as much as possible especially since I bought the merc pack for $20.00. Don't mistake my comments as complaining when all I'm trying to do is to get some game time in. I didn't recieve a free beta key so I'm within my rights to say that I'd like more testing time. I also paid for the 20 dollar merc pack to get in. I just made sure that I agreed with the downtime before paying my 20 bucks. The reason for my reply to you is to point out that this sort of response to "not getting extra time" is more likely to prevent CCP from turning on the servers outside of schedule in the future, because it now appears that giving that extra time is having a negative backlash. Hopefully they will just see this as you being impatient, but if they think there is a consensus among testers that we all agree with you, then you can say goodbye to extra time in the future. |
Laheon
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
153
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Posted - 2012.08.01 13:01:00 -
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Two things. CCP aren't rolling out hotfixes for DUST, as they have to push the updates through the Sony servers to do so. That takes time on Sony's part to test, so it's much more sensible to push a new build through every couple of months.
Also, half an hour to grab data each downtime. On Monday, after the data is grabbed, they organise it into days, types, etc. Tuesday, they analyse it in teams, breaking the data down into anti-infantry, anti-vehicle, anti-building, etc. Wednesday, they get together and discuss it, suggesting any possibly changes, balance issues, etc.
Again, not saying that this is what happens, but a day for data analysis and a day for a meeting is reasonable. If you add an extra day to the testing time, it will take that much longer to do all of the analysis.
Edit: Also, the merc pack was made so that you can have extra stuff on release, not so you can have exclusive access to the beta. The access was a bonus. You can just play Slay every week and get a weekend beta key from that. |
blqkt2011
RestlessSpirits
25
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Posted - 2012.08.01 13:14:00 -
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[/quote]I also paid for the 20 dollar merc pack to get in. I just made sure that I agreed with the downtime before paying my 20 bucks. The reason for my reply to you is to point out that this sort of response to "not getting extra time" is more likely to prevent CCP from turning on the servers outside of schedule in the future, because it now appears that giving that extra time is having a negative backlash. Hopefully they will just see this as you being impatient, but if they think there is a consensus among testers that we all agree with you, then you can say goodbye to extra time in the future. [/quote]
That's bull hockey -- 3 and 4 weeks ago they started on weds / 2 weeks ago they started on Thursday / Last week it was Tuesday so what your saying is not true. They turn it on when they are ready too and that's all there is to it. I'm just pointing out to them that some of us want to play this game as much as possible so they have obviously done somethings right regardless of the bugs and glitches (which there will alway's be no matter what) especially if the game continues to expand as we all hope it will. I'm not telling them to turn on the servers but I am letting them know that I really would like them too. In life if you don't strive for more, than you get nowhere. And yes I've waited 2 years for this game so yes I want more and more. Life is short and no-one knows what tommorrow holds in store. |
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Tak Kak
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Posted - 2012.08.01 13:14:00 -
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Laheon wrote:Two things. CCP aren't rolling out hotfixes for DUST, as they have to push the updates through the Sony servers to do so. That takes time on Sony's part to test, so it's much more sensible to push a new build through every couple of months.
Also, half an hour to grab data each downtime. On Monday, after the data is grabbed, they organise it into days, types, etc. Tuesday, they analyse it in teams, breaking the data down into anti-infantry, anti-vehicle, anti-building, etc. Wednesday, they get together and discuss it, suggesting any possibly changes, balance issues, etc.
Again, not saying that this is what happens, but a day for data analysis and a day for a meeting is reasonable. If you add an extra day to the testing time, it will take that much longer to do all of the analysis.
Edit: Also, the merc pack was made so that you can have extra stuff on release, not so you can have exclusive access to the beta. The access was a bonus. You can just play Slay every week and get a weekend beta key from that.
It depends on your type of spending your going to do in the game. If you heard of this game and planned to use aurum and you are not in the beta yet, then it's a good incentive to play now and get in on a deal. As a existing beta player it can also take the place of a one time twenty dollar aurum purchase along with some extra stuff. Currently at most maybe...it's a nice quick way for eve players to get in without the hassle of waiting in line for a ticket. |
blqkt2011
RestlessSpirits
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Posted - 2012.08.01 13:19:00 -
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Laheon wrote:Two things. CCP aren't rolling out hotfixes for DUST, as they have to push the updates through the Sony servers to do so. That takes time on Sony's part to test, so it's much more sensible to push a new build through every couple of months.
Also, half an hour to grab data each downtime. On Monday, after the data is grabbed, they organise it into days, types, etc. Tuesday, they analyse it in teams, breaking the data down into anti-infantry, anti-vehicle, anti-building, etc. Wednesday, they get together and discuss it, suggesting any possibly changes, balance issues, etc.
Again, not saying that this is what happens, but a day for data analysis and a day for a meeting is reasonable. If you add an extra day to the testing time, it will take that much longer to do all of the analysis.
Edit: Also, the merc pack was made so that you can have extra stuff on release, not so you can have exclusive access to the beta. The access was a bonus. You can just play Slay every week and get a weekend beta key from that.
But only every other weekend and it told me that in order to play more that I needed the merc pack |
zerkin gerend
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
67
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Posted - 2012.08.01 15:42:00 -
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uh oh are people about to start killing Unicorns again? |
Trevor K
Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic
32
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Posted - 2012.08.01 15:47:00 -
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This is odd. I have an Email dated 7/27 that states at the bottom, "Server Schedule Wednesday 11:30GMT GÇô Monday 11:00 GMT Servers will be offline for daily maintenance from 11:00 GMT to 11:30 GMT" Why are they not up? |
J'Jor Da'Wg
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
648
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Posted - 2012.08.01 15:58:00 -
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Excuse me, good Mr. OP.
But you have no idea what you are talking about. The truth is , you JUST WANNA PLAY D******** and don't care if there isa good reason to not play.
I mean, come on. You think CCP is just malevolently saying "Bwa haha. We could give them an extra day, BUT WE WON'T!!!! MUAH HA HA HA HA"
No... They have a legitamite reason. Patience my friend. Plus, playing 12+ hours a day isn't good for your health. View this as a nice breather. |
VELOCIRAPTOR MORTIS
Ahrendee Mercenaries Legacy Rising
12
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Posted - 2012.08.01 16:08:00 -
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Going thru beta testing withdrawal. |
blqkt2011
RestlessSpirits
25
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Posted - 2012.08.01 21:51:00 -
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J'Jor Da'Wg wrote:Excuse me, good Mr. OP.
But you have no idea what you are talking about. The truth is , you JUST WANNA PLAY D******** and don't care if there isa good reason to not play.
I mean, come on. You think CCP is just malevolently saying "Bwa haha. We could give them an extra day, BUT WE WON'T!!!! MUAH HA HA HA HA"
No... They have a legitamite reason. Patience my friend. Plus, playing 12+ hours a day isn't good for your health. View this as a nice breather. Lame statement by a CCP suckup that's not worth reposting about -- have another drink LMAO |
Lurchasaurus
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
808
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Posted - 2012.08.01 21:54:00 -
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blqkt2011 wrote:J'Jor Da'Wg wrote:Excuse me, good Mr. OP.
But you have no idea what you are talking about. The truth is , you JUST WANNA PLAY D******** and don't care if there isa good reason to not play.
I mean, come on. You think CCP is just malevolently saying "Bwa haha. We could give them an extra day, BUT WE WON'T!!!! MUAH HA HA HA HA"
No... They have a legitamite reason. Patience my friend. Plus, playing 12+ hours a day isn't good for your health. View this as a nice breather. Lame statement by a CCP suckup that's not worth reposting about -- have another drink LMAO
suckup? didnt you just post about it?
........hrm...........
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Debacle Nano
Shadow Company HQ
639
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Posted - 2012.08.01 21:56:00 -
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blqkt2011 wrote:J'Jor Da'Wg wrote:Excuse me, good Mr. OP.
But you have no idea what you are talking about. The truth is , you JUST WANNA PLAY D******** and don't care if there isa good reason to not play.
I mean, come on. You think CCP is just malevolently saying "Bwa haha. We could give them an extra day, BUT WE WON'T!!!! MUAH HA HA HA HA"
No... They have a legitamite reason. Patience my friend. Plus, playing 12+ hours a day isn't good for your health. View this as a nice breather. Lame statement by a CCP suckup that's not worth reposting about -- have another drink LMAO
Go exercise. It's good for you. |
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GM Unicorn
24th Imperial Crusade Amarr Empire
467
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Posted - 2012.08.01 21:56:00 -
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Guys, the email about Wed was applicable to last weekend event only. I'm sorry as you guys, but the server will be open tomorrow after lunch as usual. Have a good sleep, call in sick from work or school* and see you in the battlefield!
*CCP does not endorse skyving |
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