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KEROSIINI-TERO
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
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Posted - 2012.07.29 11:48:00 -
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there has been a thread on this topic previously, but I'm actually changing my statement from those times:
Before I saw dropship crushing as desperate last resort but still something possible by the game machanics.
Now I see that as an ok minor option for DS pilot.
BUT I still want to have more damage on ground collisions (still way too easy atm)
And also LOUD engine noise when dropship is nearby to mitigate surprise crushing!
All and all, much like Nova Knife has been saying. |
Avenger 245
Crux Special Tasks Group
Gallente Federation
477
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Posted - 2012.07.29 15:17:00 -
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Velexia Ombra wrote:Avenger 245 wrote:Im not just standing around im being actively hunted by a crazied and deranged pilot.
 lol...
He was after me. I swear. Deranged lunitic. |
vermacht Doe
93
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Posted - 2012.07.29 15:38:00 -
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Arcushek Dion wrote:A kill is a kill is a kill.
must remember your 5 D's: Dodge, duck, dip, dive, dodge. if you can dodge a wrench you can dodge a drop ship.
Ok try dodging a landing plane while facing away from it qnd wear sound dampening headphones |
EnglishSnake
Zumari Force Projection
Caldari State
1012
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Posted - 2012.07.29 15:58:00 -
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Avenger 245 wrote:Stop giving pilots 50+ kill for crushing people.
If there is less incentive then there is less reason to crush people.
Nope ppl will do it anyways tbh and its still a kill so +50 is vaild |
Dre Gun
Bragian Order
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.07.29 16:23:00 -
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Another cool idea rather then the "poor gameplay visual" of giant ships frog splashing the earth to get a kill.....Would be to give the pilot some sort of after burner boost the clears out the near landing zone of all foot-soldiers with a big blast from the thrusters.....This could be a high energy usage tool that could cause shields to be lowered when used giving anti-air units a window to take out a well armored ship, It could also be timed so it can only be used every 30 seconds or so.
This is basically what I already said but this would be the 'Active' approach rather then the 'Passive' one. |
SGT Garrisson
On The Brink
60
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Posted - 2012.07.29 16:35:00 -
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quote=SGT Garrisson]i agree with you on this it happens ive been crushed and ive crushed altho im not very good at the crushing part
ive not seen dropship takes dmg i think they should recieve some 5% to shields and maybe 10% to armour not a great deal of dmg but probly enuff to balance things a bit better
and on the reciving end IF landed on insta crush death however like u said ground surfing should case bump dmg to the trooper espesially if he is trying to get out the way its hard to dodge them in the heavy suit but if done and carring a forge gun 7 out of 10 its dead[/quote]
i dont get what the big deal is with the crushing yea it needs balancing i get squished i pull out my cheap fat suit with either forge or swarp and shoot the sucker down if i can some matches i devote my self to it 10k loss of a drop suit to idk 100k isk of dropship (if not malita) |
Antilles Maximus
ZionTCD
Legacy Rising
80
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Posted - 2012.07.29 16:50:00 -
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Remember:
Sun Tzu wrote:...he who is skilled in attack flashes forth from the topmost heights of heaven....
...Hence the skillful fighter puts himself into a position which makes defeat impossible and does not miss the moment for defeating the enemy...
So basically...
Arcushek Dion wrote:must remember your 5 D's: Dodge, duck, dip, dive, dodge. if you can dodge a wrench you can dodge a drop ship.
^ Great post btw! |
Dilectus Himmel
Zumari Force Projection
Caldari State
15
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Posted - 2012.07.29 17:41:00 -
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the 5 D works only if you see what s attacking you. With the speed dropships have they often crush you before you even know they exist because of the faulty draw distance. You even never hear the sound until you re only a puddle of blood under their bellies. |
gangsta nachos
Osmon Surveillance
Caldari State
377
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Posted - 2012.07.29 18:28:00 -
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Avenger 245 wrote:Stop giving pilots 50+ kill for crushing people.
If there is less incentive then there is less reason to crush people.
Whats wrong with crushing with the dropship? You can run over people with tanks and jeeps. Whats the issue? |
RzrTrek
Crux Special Tasks Group
Gallente Federation
3
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Posted - 2012.07.29 18:59:00 -
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Avenger 245 wrote:Stop giving pilots 50+ kill for crushing people.
If there is less incentive then there is less reason to crush people.
I have seen this a lot and man I tell you it's damn annoying! |
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J'Jor Da'Wg
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
648
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Posted - 2012.07.29 19:19:00 -
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So? Find a counter to it. People asking to stop dropship crushing are asking for it to be more EZ mode tbh |
Obodiah Garro
Serenity Prime
Kraken.
10
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Posted - 2012.07.29 22:43:00 -
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Gilliam Stargleam wrote:This is going to anger some but i have a great super power of not giving a damn.
Only a douchebag would support this poor tactic, especially when it's not the dropship pilots job to kill.
Your sole job is to transport troops to and from objectives and let your gunners defend you and cover the troops at said objectives.
It's not your gunners fault you can't fly straight and even enough for them to get kills, that's YOUR fault.
It's not your gunners fault that you fly around objectives like a crazy person just looking for folk to squash, giving them hardly any time to line shots off much less hit anything, that's YOUR fault.
If this tactic is still in the final game it's going to help kill it as it's pathetic the way you pilots troll the ground chasing mercs under low pipelines etc.
The only way to solve this is to penalize the pilots heavily for doing so.
Dropship squashing has got to be made an absolute last option to do.
Another viable solution is give the pilots points for dropping off troops at objectives, more points than they would get for squashing someone.
I used to think giving them a gun would be a nice alternative but that is not their job to fly around and kill.
It would only cause another problem of to many pilots not enough grounders, the sky would be full of dropships.
If your getting shot at, FLY away and grab some gunners, then come back and rain death down upon thine enemy.
This
Morons saying dropship crushing is fine aside, presently with the spawn mechanics completely insane, its a game breaker. Dropships need to take dmg if they are smacking into things and not doing their intended job, plus they need to be taken away for free and made hell a lot more expensive.
I had to heavy lol at the person saying it takes a lot of RL piloting skill to crush, i did it for a couple of rounds before comming here to say how stupid it was, its notoriously easy, as for tower sniping in a dropship haha thats just wow...
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sansey Inferno
Inferno Inc
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Posted - 2012.07.29 23:48:00 -
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wathak 514 wrote:See if u say dropship crushing is unfair well then id have to say try it urself cause it takes decent real world piloting skills to perfor this first u got to find the target in the open even if u urself are geting shot at. Then u have to control the drop other wise it will harm ur ship and i have actually crashed through crushing.
i desagree when dropship missed visual and u cant shooting (very high for example) pilot stil have minimap with targets and chevrons on battlefield (gunners too) and i dont know how people fire from dropship lanchers allways in target when ship moving with high speed
maybe add random option kill pilot when shooting from swarm\forge guns or from another weapon when shooting in cockpit?:)
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