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Buzzwords wrote:

Garrett Blacknova wrote:

Buzzwords wrote:

other than that though, i dunno what garret is talking about. i've never been able to lock onto stuff that is not drawing. and for the squad leader to mark it, it has to appear on map for him first.

Target is outside draw distance, but there's a marker over it from someone else having eyes on the target. If there isn't an obstacle between you and the enemy, you can lock without needing them drawn in.

sounds like i'm a victim of horrible teammates then. but i'm rather proactive in chasing vehicles, so i guess if i can't see it nobody can, which would explain why i've never seen any practical benefit from this.

though in the case of tower campers, how often does ANYONE see them until they actually go up there? it almost seems like the height of the tower damn near IS the draw distance. i can occasionally see them if i'm super close to the base, but then the angle is so sharp that my missiles always hit the tower on the way up Cry

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Sephoran Griffith Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic 96	Posted - 2012.07.25 03:59:00 - [1] - Quote When draw distance is fixed and people can no longer use it as a way to hide a ship on the tower. Today has also showed me that most of the tower Dropship campers have all access keys. Once draw distance is fixed, be ready for the salvo of SL missiles I send your way.
Garma QUDA Zumari Force Projection Caldari State 468	Posted - 2012.07.25 04:07:00 - [2] - Quote 5bucks says it'll still be world of tanks..
Longshot Ravenwood Algintal Core Gallente Federation 680	Posted - 2012.07.25 04:08:00 - [3] - Quote Easiest way to fix that draw distance? Grab a militia dropship & get up there. While you're up there drop an uplink so that your allies have a reasonably safe spawn point.
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 3064	Posted - 2012.07.25 04:12:00 - [4] - Quote Longshot Ravenwood wrote: Easiest way to fix that draw distance? Grab a militia dropship & get up there. While you're up there drop an uplink so that your allies have a reasonably safe spawn point. We don't know if militia dropships will always be there since people hate militia vehicles so much. A range buff to swarm launcher lock-on would be a better long term solution.
Garrett Blacknova Codex Troopers 1849	Posted - 2012.07.25 04:20:00 - [5] - Quote I can already send swarm missiles their way... not sure why so many people have trouble with this...
Sephoran Griffith Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic 96	Posted - 2012.07.25 22:00:00 - [6] - Quote Garrett Blacknova wrote: I can already send swarm missiles their way... not sure why so many people have trouble with this... Only if you can see them.
Sephoran Griffith Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic 96	Posted - 2012.07.25 22:01:00 - [7] - Quote Longshot Ravenwood wrote: Easiest way to fix that draw distance? Grab a militia dropship & get up there. While you're up there drop an uplink so that your allies have a reasonably safe spawn point. I do this every game.just wish I didn't have to fly up there to shoot them down.
Debacle Nano Shadow Company HQ 639	Posted - 2012.07.25 22:31:00 - [8] - Quote KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote: Longshot Ravenwood wrote: Easiest way to fix that draw distance? Grab a militia dropship & get up there. While you're up there drop an uplink so that your allies have a reasonably safe spawn point. We don't know if militia dropships will always be there since people hate militia vehicles so much. A range buff to swarm launcher lock-on would be a better long term solution. Hahahahaa...no.
Garrett Blacknova Codex Troopers 1849	Posted - 2012.07.25 23:05:00 - [9] - Quote Sephoran Griffith wrote: Garrett Blacknova wrote: I can already send swarm missiles their way... not sure why so many people have trouble with this... Only if you can see them. Nope. SOMEONE has to be able to see them. Doesn't have to be me.
Sephoran Griffith Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic 96	Posted - 2012.07.26 03:29:00 - [10] - Quote Garrett Blacknova wrote: Sephoran Griffith wrote: Garrett Blacknova wrote: I can already send swarm missiles their way... not sure why so many people have trouble with this... Only if you can see them. Nope. SOMEONE has to be able to see them. Doesn't have to be me. Are you claiming that you can lock on with your swarm launchers if you cannot see them, but another player can?

Garrett Blacknova Codex Troopers 1849	Posted - 2012.07.26 04:00:00 - [11] - Quote Sephoran Griffith wrote: Are you claiming that you can lock on with your swarm launchers if you cannot see them, but another player can? I've done it multiple times before. There IS a range limit, but it's further than the current draw distance
McFurious BetaMax. 67	Posted - 2012.07.26 04:22:00 - [12] - Quote Easy way to take out dropship + tower campers: Spawn at start point, call in a dropship, get behind another tower (so he can't see you) and gain altitude. Once you're high enough head straight for him at full speed and ram into camper's dropship. Watch him fall to the ground in flames.
Rhadiem Algintal Core Gallente Federation 496	Posted - 2012.07.26 04:58:00 - [13] - Quote Clearing the enemy tower snipers and such are just one role in securing victory for your team. Sometimes this means figuring out how to stop them from being up there. It's really really not that hard if you actually try. This game will NEVER be just infantry gun game. The balance is a rock-paper-scissors type system. Being the best rock doesn't always guarantee a win.
Milk Supreme ZionTCD Legacy Rising 127	Posted - 2012.07.26 05:52:00 - [14] - Quote Garma QUDA wrote: 5bucks says it'll still be world of tanks.. Are you saying World of Tanks is a bad game?
Regis Mark V 249	Posted - 2012.07.26 06:09:00 - [15] - Quote Sephoran Griffith wrote: Longshot Ravenwood wrote: Easiest way to fix that draw distance? Grab a militia dropship & get up there. While you're up there drop an uplink so that your allies have a reasonably safe spawn point. I do this every game.just wish I didn't have to fly up there to shoot them down. ^^^This... It becomes tedious and boring for gameplay to have to babysit towers all game long.
Buzzwords Deadly Blue Dots RISE of LEGION 416	Posted - 2012.07.26 07:29:00 - [16] - Quote Regis Mark V wrote: Sephoran Griffith wrote: Longshot Ravenwood wrote: Easiest way to fix that draw distance? Grab a militia dropship & get up there. While you're up there drop an uplink so that your allies have a reasonably safe spawn point. I do this every game.just wish I didn't have to fly up there to shoot them down. ^^^This... It becomes tedious and boring for gameplay to have to babysit towers all game long. i call it "playing NO police" and i sing my NO police song as i patrol the towers. i also make a point to apologize to my teammates for making them go on ahead without me for the rest of the match, because i'll be off playing NO police. at least i get some sick humor out of how ridiculous the whole situation is.
Buzzwords Deadly Blue Dots RISE of LEGION 416	Posted - 2012.07.26 07:35:00 - [17] - Quote Sephoran Griffith wrote: Garrett Blacknova wrote: Sephoran Griffith wrote: Garrett Blacknova wrote: I can already send swarm missiles their way... not sure why so many people have trouble with this... Only if you can see them. Nope. SOMEONE has to be able to see them. Doesn't have to be me. Are you claiming that you can lock on with your swarm launchers if you cannot see them, but another player can? if your squad leader marks them, they will draw from further away (perhaps infinite distance, i dunno) therefore being much easier to lock at range. other than that though, i dunno what garret is talking about. i've never been able to lock onto stuff that is not drawing. and for the squad leader to mark it, it has to appear on map for him first.
dust badger BetaMax. 283	Posted - 2012.07.26 07:35:00 - [18] - Quote I always see where the missiles are coming from and a shot with the improved forge gun soon sorts them out
Garrett Blacknova Codex Troopers 1849	Posted - 2012.07.26 07:44:00 - [19] - Quote Buzzwords wrote: other than that though, i dunno what garret is talking about. i've never been able to lock onto stuff that is not drawing. and for the squad leader to mark it, it has to appear on map for him first. Target is outside draw distance, but there's a marker over it from someone else having eyes on the target. If there isn't an obstacle between you and the enemy, you can lock without needing them drawn in.
Iron Wolf Saber BetaMax. 2867	Posted - 2012.07.26 07:46:00 - [20] - Quote Forge Gun fixes dropships up there stationary sitting still unattentive, I shot a guy out of one today and he was pissed.

Buzzwords Deadly Blue Dots RISE of LEGION 416	Posted - 2012.07.26 07:50:00 - [21] - Quote Garrett Blacknova wrote: Buzzwords wrote: other than that though, i dunno what garret is talking about. i've never been able to lock onto stuff that is not drawing. and for the squad leader to mark it, it has to appear on map for him first. Target is outside draw distance, but there's a marker over it from someone else having eyes on the target. If there isn't an obstacle between you and the enemy, you can lock without needing them drawn in. sounds like i'm a victim of horrible teammates then. but i'm rather proactive in chasing vehicles, so i guess if i can't see it nobody can, which would explain why i've never seen any practical benefit from this. though in the case of tower campers, how often does ANYONE see them until they actually go up there? it almost seems like the height of the tower damn near IS the draw distance. i can occasionally see them if i'm super close to the base, but then the angle is so sharp that my missiles always hit the tower on the way up
Buzzwords Deadly Blue Dots RISE of LEGION 416	Posted - 2012.07.26 07:55:00 - [22] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Forge Gun fixes dropships up there stationary sitting still unattentive, I shot a guy out of one today and he was pissed. that might have been me actually... this happened to me in a game where i had mixed comms. but if it was me, i wasn't on a tower, i was riding shotgun for a guy actually flying around. i wasn't really pissed, i was just stunned and amazed that it managed to hit ME and not the dropship... JUST me... i was like... the ****?
Garrett Blacknova Codex Troopers 1849	Posted - 2012.07.26 07:55:00 - [23] - Quote Buzzwords wrote: Garrett Blacknova wrote: Buzzwords wrote: other than that though, i dunno what garret is talking about. i've never been able to lock onto stuff that is not drawing. and for the squad leader to mark it, it has to appear on map for him first. Target is outside draw distance, but there's a marker over it from someone else having eyes on the target. If there isn't an obstacle between you and the enemy, you can lock without needing them drawn in. sounds like i'm a victim of horrible teammates then. but i'm rather proactive in chasing vehicles, so i guess if i can't see it nobody can, which would explain why i've never seen any practical benefit from this. though in the case of tower campers, how often does ANYONE see them until they actually go up there? it almost seems like the height of the tower damn near IS the draw distance. i can occasionally see them if i'm super close to the base, but then the angle is so sharp that my missiles always hit the tower on the way up There are a couple of tricks with the towers. Scope in, and try to lock even if the Dropship hasn't been drawn in - you can get them to show up from a LONG way outside draw distance (at least 100m from the base of the tower) if you can get a direct enough line on them. Also, try to take the highest ground you can get to.
zerkin gerend Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 67	Posted - 2012.07.26 08:40:00 - [24] - Quote Buzzwords wrote: Sephoran Griffith wrote: Garrett Blacknova wrote: Sephoran Griffith wrote: Garrett Blacknova wrote: I can already send swarm missiles their way... not sure why so many people have trouble with this... Only if you can see them. Nope. SOMEONE has to be able to see them. Doesn't have to be me. Are you claiming that you can lock on with your swarm launchers if you cannot see them, but another player can? if your squad leader marks them, they will draw from further away (perhaps infinite distance, i dunno) therefore being much easier to lock at range. other than that though, i dunno what garret is talking about. i've never been able to lock onto stuff that is not drawing. and for the squad leader to mark it, it has to appear on map for him first. i get lock when a wall is in the way so yea you can do it
ICECREAMK1NG WARRIORS 99	Posted - 2012.07.26 09:02:00 - [25] - Quote The fact that you can see from one end of the map to the other and further actually,makes a mockery that you have tanks and dropships going invisible a few hundred meters away. just fix this hopeless draw please asap. I for one am sick of being squashed by idiots I cant see until it's too late.
Sephoran Griffith Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic 96	Posted - 2012.07.26 12:49:00 - [26] - Quote ICECREAMK1NG WARRIORS wrote: The fact that you can see from one end of the map to the other and further actually,makes a mockery that you have tanks and dropships going invisible a few hundred meters away. just fix this hopeless draw please asap. I for one am sick of being squashed by idiots I cant see until it's too late. +1


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