Asno Masamang
Odd Shadows Inc
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Posted - 2012.07.24 23:05:00 -
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Greetings.
Gengus Ra wrote:I understand this sort of thing sounds ridiculous on a FPS. But lets face it: DUST is not a normal game.
No, Dust is not a FPS, instead it is an RPG with a FPS combat system. While many people argue this, they are frankly wrong and it really is a critical distinction for the reason you are looking at here with this request. As a pure FPS, no there would be no role for purely passive or non-combatants, but as an RPG, even one that uses FPS for their combat system, there is room. And unless CCP has a harvey sized rabbit in their hat, the command dropsuit will be just that a non-combatant.
But even beyond that, when you look closely at the Type II scout suit and Logistics suits, you will see that they are intended to have severely diminished combat roles. Additionally, CCP has gone ahead and created warpoint systems to give points for non-combat activities, which tells me that they have more non-combatant roles planned in the future.
Quote:If it's going to be a part of EVE online, It'd be nice if we DUST players could bring just as much to the table in New Eden as EVE pilots can.
Now this is the real issue. Leave aside the ability to take and hold planets, what can Dust bunnies really provide to pod pilots? I have wracked my brains a couple times on this and frankly I can't see a good answer. Yes, taking and holding planets / solar systems is going to be critical to EVE sovereignty, but is there nothing more? If there is, I can't figure it out, not with what CCP has told us so far, but maybe they do have other ideas they are not spilling yet... Like;
- Archaeology teams -- There are thousands of "static" ancient sites and many more "dynamic" ancient sites. Dust bunnies could provide the exploratory team and security for these sites.
- Damsel Recovery teams -- As some as posted on the threads, being able to invade Kruul's Pleasure hub would be something for Dust bunnies, but there are other ones along the same lines.... Helping to restore order after the Six Kin prison escape,
- Providing security / assassination teams for the Amarrian royalty, etc.
- Corporate / Faction espionage / counter-espionage -- A team could infiltrate Douvalle labs and recover BPCs for factional modules.
Yes, all of those have a heavy need for combat, but they also need non-combatants and they can provide for numerous non-combat roles.
Also notice that CCP has given Dust bunnies some of the same non-combat skills they gave to pod pilots... It is not too much of a stretch to take the existing industry / science skill sets from EVE and apply parts of them to Dust.
Quote:Im aware that the possibilities that any of these things be added is low because this is a free to play game and these things would make the game much more deep and therefore more expensive.
If my understanding of what CCP is trying to do is accurate, this would actually improve the value (and revenue) of the game long term and help pave the way for the next game in New Eden universe.
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Asno Masamang
Odd Shadows Inc
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Posted - 2012.07.25 15:51:00 -
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Gengus Ra wrote:How do you think some of these contracts you've listed are going to be implemented into the game so that EVE players will organically create them?
Not saying they will, but that they could. Imagine for a moment that you get one of the Damsel missions, you need to rescue the Damsel from Kruuls Pleasure Hub. At present you will be offered an ISK / LP reward based on time and success, you would go with your HAC / BC / BS and recover the Damsel on your own... But what if the NPC contract stipulated double LP for Infiltration / exfiltration? I don't know about you, but I would be willing to put up a smal Mercenary contract to bring her out.
Six Kin prison escape, instead of the normal ISK / LP reward, they could provide a 30% faction increase if you send in a police force... Again, I would be willing to put up a bit of ISK to create a Dust contract for that... Especially if CCP made it an escalation mission such that if I tried it without Mercs, the Six Kin could get access to the Concord Frigate that is there.... OUCHIE.
Remember, CCP is not going to make us create the Dust contracts, but they are going to give us incentives to create them.
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