didn't read it, but looks like a good post

Now tbh im sorta dead against this or mainly was but i was on EVE and chatting about this very thing, how would CCP do it, what would the EVE pilot do etc n all tht


The basic idea that mercs can board your ship to **** you up is like whut? how would they do it but also whats to stop the EVE pilot from hitting the self destruct button? nothing tbh

The self destruct mechanism is 60secs in EVE now for a big ship 60sec to run up and down the decks isnt enough time and so in EVE the timer would possibly have to be extended for bigger ships like cruisers and above but it wouldnt really to EVE since normally ppl prefer to lose the ship fighting and self destruct isnt used tht much (to my knowledge)

So just say the self destruct mech is started by the EVE pilot in a drake and the timer is 2min or maybe 2.30 so its fairly short but to extend the timer you can damage various parts of the ship to shut it down, so like destroying the cap rechargers and the engines and the power grid etc, well the more important a part is the more time is added to the clock and if the ship is damaged enough then the clock stops altogether because it is unable to self destruct and would prob count down the clones to whoever wins


For me think of Alien when Ripley sets up the self destruct sequence and the whole ships starts venting and all the main lights go and its flashing lights and generally dark with a computerized voice saying how long is left and what has been damaged or destroyed completeley and the more the ship gets damaged the more the voice is destroyed so its starts skipping words and mass repeating things

But also if the power grid is smashed then tbh the ship would be in darkness, maybe basic electronic things like doors would jam and lock shut meaning more hacking needed or even cutting tools, computer access is down longer hacking times

If the engines are destroyed on the port side it may start leaning

If the hull is breached zero G atmosphere is introduced etc etc


I was against it but the more i do think about it the more fun it could be


Anyway had to get it out, dunno if any ideas had been in other threads and tbh couldnt be arsed to look

I am all for ship boarding, even if only PVE ships

If CCP really wanted to, they could get around the issues.
The EVE player contracting the mercs could use some new electronic warfare module to disable the capsuleer's neural control preventing self destruct.
Flashlights in helmets to light the way, special equipment to pry open jammed doors.
Small ion thrusters on dropsuits to travel in 0 gravity, or just magnetized boots.

The fact remains that in EVE, battles just don't last long enough to even get a game started in DUST.

The incentive for an EVE pilot not to blow up his own ship is the cost it would be to him.

Not to mention the fact that to put ship boarding in is idiotic. Mercs travel on the war barges, and if a ship sees them coming, bam. One war barge, 250mil and hundreds of mercs dead.

Also, it would skew the balance hugely in favour of mercs. 2bil carrier + boarding = bad idea. Forget fleet fights, all it would need is a war barge to sneak in, board a titan or two, and then get out. It would render EVE as "protect the war barge, as that's the best weapon we have against capitals".

Boarding could be an option for ships already severely weakened in combat by other expensive EVE ships, so it won't be a cheap warbarge that takes down the 2billion ISK carrier.
It could also just be for PVE enemy ships (i think those exist since PVE is in EVE).

Warbarges = ???

LOL I suppose you can think of it that way.
The capsuleer being boarded can hire a warbarge full of mercs to enter its ship and defend it.

This would also require the ship to be constantly tackled and not killed for the 15+ minutes it takes for a match to run... People would have their corpmates blow them up before giving a cap to the enemy.

That does sound like a problem, perhaps some sort of cloaking module could be used to hide the ship's position from the corp-mates, or anyone. What do you mean by the ship would need to be constantly tackled? I don't play EVE so I don't know what you mean, sorry.
You clearly know more than me on the subject of EVE ships, so I think you might be able to think of a more plausible mechanic for shipboarding. I would like to hear different ideas on how it can be made to work.

That does sound like a problem, perhaps some sort of cloaking module could be used to hide the ship's position from the corp-mates, or anyone. What do you mean by the ship would need to be constantly tackled? I don't play EVE so I don't know what you mean, sorry.
You clearly know more than me on the subject of EVE ships, so I think you might be able to think of a more plausible mechanic for shipboarding. I would like to hear different ideas on how it can be made to work.

Tackled is when ships are preventing another ship from fleeing

Now tbh im sorta dead against this or mainly was but i was on EVE and chatting about this very thing, how would CCP do it, what would the EVE pilot do etc n all tht


The basic idea that mercs can board your ship to **** you up is like whut? how would they do it but also whats to stop the EVE pilot from hitting the self destruct button? nothing tbh

The self destruct mechanism is 60secs in EVE now for a big ship 60sec to run up and down the decks isnt enough time and so in EVE the timer would possibly have to be extended for bigger ships like cruisers and above but it wouldnt really to EVE since normally ppl prefer to lose the ship fighting and self destruct isnt used tht much (to my knowledge)

So just say the self destruct mech is started by the EVE pilot in a drake and the timer is 2min or maybe 2.30 so its fairly short but to extend the timer you can damage various parts of the ship to shut it down, so like destroying the cap rechargers and the engines and the power grid etc, well the more important a part is the more time is added to the clock and if the ship is damaged enough then the clock stops altogether because it is unable to self destruct and would prob count down the clones to whoever wins


For me think of Alien when Ripley sets up the self destruct sequence and the whole ships starts venting and all the main lights go and its flashing lights and generally dark with a computerized voice saying how long is left and what has been damaged or destroyed completeley and the more the ship gets damaged the more the voice is destroyed so its starts skipping words and mass repeating things

But also if the power grid is smashed then tbh the ship would be in darkness, maybe basic electronic things like doors would jam and lock shut meaning more hacking needed or even cutting tools, computer access is down longer hacking times

If the engines are destroyed on the port side it may start leaning

If the hull is breached zero G atmosphere is introduced etc etc


I was against it but the more i do think about it the more fun it could be


Anyway had to get it out, dunno if any ideas had been in other threads and tbh couldnt be arsed to look

Now tbh im sorta dead against this or mainly was but i was on EVE and chatting about this very thing, how would CCP do it, what would the EVE pilot do etc n all tht


The basic idea that mercs can board your ship to **** you up is like whut? how would they do it but also whats to stop the EVE pilot from hitting the self destruct button? nothing tbh

The self destruct mechanism is 60secs in EVE now for a big ship 60sec to run up and down the decks isnt enough time and so in EVE the timer would possibly have to be extended for bigger ships like cruisers and above but it wouldnt really to EVE since normally ppl prefer to lose the ship fighting and self destruct isnt used tht much (to my knowledge)

So just say the self destruct mech is started by the EVE pilot in a drake and the timer is 2min or maybe 2.30 so its fairly short but to extend the timer you can damage various parts of the ship to shut it down, so like destroying the cap rechargers and the engines and the power grid etc, well the more important a part is the more time is added to the clock and if the ship is damaged enough then the clock stops altogether because it is unable to self destruct and would prob count down the clones to whoever wins


For me think of Alien when Ripley sets up the self destruct sequence and the whole ships starts venting and all the main lights go and its flashing lights and generally dark with a computerized voice saying how long is left and what has been damaged or destroyed completeley and the more the ship gets damaged the more the voice is destroyed so its starts skipping words and mass repeating things

But also if the power grid is smashed then tbh the ship would be in darkness, maybe basic electronic things like doors would jam and lock shut meaning more hacking needed or even cutting tools, computer access is down longer hacking times

If the engines are destroyed on the port side it may start leaning

If the hull is breached zero G atmosphere is introduced etc etc


I was against it but the more i do think about it the more fun it could be


Anyway had to get it out, dunno if any ideas had been in other threads and tbh couldnt be arsed to look

Boarding could be an option for ships already severely weakened in combat by other expensive EVE ships, so it won't be a cheap warbarge that takes down the 2billion ISK carrier.
It could also just be for PVE enemy ships (i think those exist since PVE is in EVE).

Severely weakened in EvE means the ship blows up....there really is no way to effectively add a ship boarding mechanic in. Pilots will blow the ship up before they even think of giving it up. And also, we're in a pod that with cables in our heads and spines that are used to operate the ship. No real crew. Canon wise they have crew. As for fights in eve,......average is measured in a few minutes or less. Generally about less then 2 mins tops.