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Omnipotent lilmamaj Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire 205	Posted - 2012.07.24 04:28:00 - [1] - Quote Do you think the trial version of EvE will help someone understand what the game is about? I think all the non-evers including myself should get to know the game for a better understanding of Dust. Tell me what you think EvEheads.
michael McG Doomheim 28	Posted - 2012.07.24 04:32:00 - [2] - Quote i think it will. The only thing you have to understand is people spend years getting a ship they want. please when you play this dont go in thinking you will have a easy time. it takes lots of dedication. EVE is one of the most amazing games i have ever played and i know dust will be the same.
Septem Mortuus Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 86	Posted - 2012.07.24 04:33:00 - [3] - Quote It would probably help you hugely. It's a complicated place, but post your EvE name and I'm sure some "EvEheads" will be more than happy to help you out and see what's what. Don't worry, most are actually pretty helpful to New players. Despite their reputation.
Aeon Amadi Maverick Conflict Solutions 1003	Posted - 2012.07.24 04:35:00 - [4] - Quote Omnipotent lilmamaj wrote: Do you think the trial version of EvE will help someone understand what the game is about? I think all the non-evers including myself should get to know the game for a better understanding of Dust. Tell me what you think EvEheads. Could send you an extended trial if you want to give it a go. I can help you out - walk you through some of the beginning steps. It's more complicated than Dust, believe it or not.
Rhadiem Algintal Core Gallente Federation 496	Posted - 2012.07.24 06:52:00 - [5] - Quote You could join a training corp like Eve University also, they have all sorts of stuff. Highsec EVE is a different game than Low/Null sec EVE though. Lowsec is mostly random pirates wanting your stuff or to kill you for fun. Nullsec is mostly alliances and corporations who generally don't want you in their territory if you're not associated with them, and many will come looking for you and try (and probably succeed) to kill you. (assuming you're new) In Highsec, you basically just need to look out for scammers and people who try to get you to aggro them so they can call in their buddies and kill you. Or random people blowing up their ships to do damage to you so their friend can loot your ship. The list goes on. Low/Null you are very vulnerable and really need to be prepared to escape those out to get you, and a big part of that is setting up your interface in a way that helps you better. Wormholes are like Null except you don't even have the luxury of knowing who is in there with you. You could be alone for days then immediately have some very scary people show up and destroy everything you have in there. Most of my EVE life has been very casual carebear stuff, but life in a wormhole was definitely challenging.
dust badger BetaMax. 283	Posted - 2012.07.24 06:58:00 - [6] - Quote yeah i think it is worth it if you want you can send a message to my PSN badgertheboss89 with your email address and then you can get a 21 day trial instead of the 14. i also run a small beginner friendly corp if people need help
howard sanchez Conspiratus Immortalis 448	Posted - 2012.07.24 06:58:00 - [7] - Quote But don't let all the doom and gloomers worry you. EVE is gorgeous. I loved when the new nebula's, starfields and planets came out. I traveled for days across star systems and regions just looking at it all. And figuring out how to scrape together enough funds to keep operating without doing things like missions is great. Finding your first wormhole with those scanners. Hearing all the stories of pirates in low sec and making that first jump. Having your ship blown out from under you in your first (or fifteenth) pvp encounter...the hand shaking adrenaline... God I miss that. GET IN THERE!
Martin0 Brancaleone Maphia Clan Corporation CRONOS. 191	Posted - 2012.07.24 07:01:00 - [8] - Quote I too will send you 21 days trial, just e-mail me in game
Veigar Mordekaiser Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire 676	Posted - 2012.07.24 07:07:00 - [9] - Quote Be prepared to feel horribly overwhelmed. I had an EVE account for 3 months, I should've spent some time on the forums, more time in general chat... But, I tried to just figure it out as I went. I ended up mining in Hi-sec way to much, so boring. When I have the money, I will probably start playing EVE, I want to be a part of the year long Corp infiltrations, and massive battles the likes of Burn Jita. Oh my god, when I read about Burn Jita, I simply COULD NOT wait for the videos to come up on youtube, SO EPIC!
Waruiko DUST G I A N T 90	Posted - 2012.07.24 07:14:00 - [10] - Quote http://i53.tinypic.com/684eb4.jpg That's a good rule of thumb to get the general idea of how things work in the various types of space in EVE. Also if you are going to jump right into PvP expect this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=0t71cexWzvM#! or this: http://us.acidcow.com/pics/20110728/best_sport_fail_08.gif because until you spend some serious time fighting you're most likely going to end up in one of those scenarios. I'm willing to pass out the 21 day free trials too if you send me a message in game and maybe even some starting capital with no strings, but not for the next week or so. I'll be away at a hackers convention in Vegas I go to every year and I won't be logging into anything important or even have my own computer on me there... best not to tempt fate I think yeah? Edit: My EVE handle is the same as my dust handle minus the DUST part of the name.

Omnipotent lilmamaj Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire 205	Posted - 2012.07.24 07:47:00 - [11] - Quote I fear the lag that I will probably get. I run a macbook pro(laptop) and I think that may cause some problems with lag and framerate. Can some elite EvE player confirm or deny this.
Veigar Mordekaiser Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire 676	Posted - 2012.07.24 07:56:00 - [12] - Quote Omnipotent lilmamaj wrote: I fear the lag that I will probably get. I run a macbook pro(laptop) and I think that may cause some problems with lag and framerate. Can some elite EvE player confirm or deny this. Dont worry, EVE isn't very heavy on your graphics card as long as you're conservative with your settings. Also, turning off station interiors will boost performance when docked.
dust badger BetaMax. 283	Posted - 2012.07.24 07:58:00 - [13] - Quote i used to run eve on my carppy little netbook yes if you get in to a massive fight then you may get some lag but as a beginner i doubt this will happen, there are a lot of options to turn off most of the effects, so if you are worried about this, but i think you should be fine
Omnipotent lilmamaj Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire 205	Posted - 2012.07.24 08:04:00 - [14] - Quote Now I can see myself getting into this game. I just need a little bit of guidance.
Raynor Ragna 266	Posted - 2012.07.24 08:13:00 - [15] - Quote The trial isn't nearly enough time to allow you to better understand what dust will be. People say that Eve is a game that doesn't want to be played or its just spreadsheets in space. They are mostly right. Eve is a game that's all about goals and the planning and execution of the goals. Talk to any MMO player about what they want from the game and they'll tell you that they want to become the highest level, strongest character, or get rare gear. Talk to any Eve player and you will see that the goals go so much deeper. Claiming 0.0 Anti-pirate Strengthening a mining corp Starting a courier business Living in a wormhole Becoming a fleet commander Espionage There is so much out there. People regularly create skill plans that reach out five years with certainty that they will complete that plan. I bought a third account with the plan to create a trading all with maxed skills to get some passive income and when that plan was complete I would create a second character on that account that would pilot a titan ship (they are what, 60 billion isk for the hull alone and something like 3 years of skill training for just that ship). Ontop of that I'd have my main create an alliance and claim 0.0 space. I nearly have executed it all and if it wasn't for my lack of free time, I'd be conjuring up more plans. We will see dust moving in the same direction. These will be truely unique games.
Rhadiem Algintal Core Gallente Federation 496	Posted - 2012.07.24 08:16:00 - [16] - Quote Waruiko DUST wrote: if you are going to jump right into PvP expect this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=0t71cexWzvM#! or this: http://us.acidcow.com/pics/20110728/best_sport_fail_08.gif because until you spend some serious time fighting you're most likely going to end up in one of those scenarios. I'm laughing so hard.. this is so true. Frigate just scanned me down and looted my mission kills? I can pop him easy. And then his friend comes. And he simply holds you there while that wimpy frigate (that you can barely hit) kills your favorite ship. Yeah. Bravado doesn't win fights.
Omnipotent lilmamaj Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire 205	Posted - 2012.07.24 08:19:00 - [17] - Quote Raynor Ragna wrote: The trial isn't nearly enough time to allow you to better understand what dust will be. People say that Eve is a game that doesn't want to be played or its just spreadsheets in space. They are mostly right. Eve is a game that's all about goals and the planning and execution of the goals. Talk to any MMO player about what they want from the game and they'll tell you that they want to become the highest level, strongest character, or get rare gear. Talk to any Eve player and you will see that the goals go so much deeper. Claiming 0.0 Anti-pirate Strengthening a mining corp Starting a courier business Living in a wormhole Becoming a fleet commander Espionage There is so much out there. People regularly create skill plans that reach out five years with certainty that they will complete that plan. I bought a third account with the plan to create a trading all with maxed skills to get some passive income and when that plan was complete I would create a second character on that account that would pilot a titan ship (they are what, 60 billion isk for the hull alone and something like 3 years of skill training for just that ship). Ontop of that I'd have my main create an alliance and claim 0.0 space. I nearly have executed it all and if it wasn't for my lack of free time, I'd be conjuring up more plans. We will see dust moving in the same direction. These will be truely unique games. If I see potential I will buy the game for a year.
dust badger BetaMax. 283	Posted - 2012.07.24 09:20:00 - [18] - Quote The reason why me and other people posted about getting you an extended trial is that if you decide to sub you and the person who sent you the invite both get an plex (which equates to about 500mil isk or a monthGÇÖs free game play) So it might be worth taking someone up on that
Omnipotent lilmamaj Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire 205	Posted - 2012.07.24 09:25:00 - [19] - Quote I sent you a friend request badger look at your ps3.
dust badger BetaMax. 283	Posted - 2012.07.24 09:27:00 - [20] - Quote cool at work atm will accept it in a couple of hours, if your desperate to get on then im sure someone else will be glad to help out

Omnipotent lilmamaj Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire 205	Posted - 2012.07.24 09:30:00 - [21] - Quote dust badger wrote: cool at work atm will accept it in a couple of hours, if your desperate to get on then im sure someone else will be glad to help out I won't be getting on EvE for a couple of hours my ps3 will be on though. How will I get the extended tryouts?
Omnipotent lilmamaj Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire 205	Posted - 2012.07.24 09:30:00 - [22] - Quote Omnipotent lilmamaj wrote: dust badger wrote: cool at work atm will accept it in a couple of hours, if your desperate to get on then im sure someone else will be glad to help out I won't be getting on EvE for a couple of hours my ps3 will be on though. How will I get the extended trial?
dust badger BetaMax. 283	Posted - 2012.07.24 09:34:00 - [23] - Quote If you send me your email address i will send you an invite
Renzo Kuken Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 369	Posted - 2012.07.24 10:06:00 - [24] - Quote Septem Mortuus wrote: It would probably help you hugely. It's a complicated place, but post your EvE name and I'm sure some "EvEheads" will be more than happy to help you out and see what's what. Don't worry, most are actually pretty helpful to New players. Despite their reputation. or scam you yes its good to get to know the game however scamming and backstabbing are apart of eve and soon to be in dust be careful and watch your back
Superluminal Replicant 40	Posted - 2012.07.24 10:06:00 - [25] - Quote The free trial would give you a general idea how the game plays but it doesnt even scratch the surface of what you can do. I played for a few years on and off and i barely scratched the surface of that game, all I did was caldari mission running in high sec in my Raven navy issue, and all the COSMOS missions, a bit of exploration, and some trading, and thats not even 10% of what you can do. My goals were to eventualy have the skills and isk for a Freighter, a Caldari Dreadnaught and my very own PoS. But I just didnt have the time to get these goals complete with work and all.
Minmatar Slave 74136 Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic 291	Posted - 2012.07.24 10:09:00 - [26] - Quote Also go to www.eveonline.com and prowl the site, especially everything under the 'One Universe' tab on the main page which will give non-eve players an insight and glimpse into the background and technologies of the world they are about to enter. I also recommend, off-hand, the evelopedia at the following location http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Main_Page everything from items, ships, articles, places, and the chronicles (fiction)
dust badger BetaMax. 283	Posted - 2012.07.24 10:10:00 - [27] - Quote yeah 99%of offers/deals/contracts posted in local are a scam, if it seems cheap, its not its a scam, always count the zeros ;)
Milk Supreme ZionTCD Legacy Rising 127	Posted - 2012.07.24 10:11:00 - [28] - Quote Planetary Interaction is what you want to look into for what DUST514 is eventually going to tap. It's incredibly confusing, even for 4 year veterans.
Veigar Mordekaiser Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire 676	Posted - 2012.07.24 10:12:00 - [29] - Quote Oh, a good tip - if you are hanging out in Hi-sec, and you see a box out in space that says "Free (Ammo)(Minerals)(Other things)" I suggest avoiding it. Opening it is considered stealing, and that player then has the right to kill you, Concord wont defend you. My brother got screwed by that scam once. :P
Mr TamiyaCowboy Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation 121	Posted - 2012.07.24 11:53:00 - [30] - Quote talking to a new player last night, he/she having a few problems making isk and the likes. after around a 10 min chat, i thought " how do i help this chap" dragged up my assets and took a gander. Navy Vexor ( faction cruiser) estimated at around 100 mill isk. i gave the ship to the young new player, told him/her to sell on market and use the isk to better skills and cheaper ship + fittings. some of us eve players help those newcomers, also some corps/alliances to. in if as in life " if its to good to be true ITS A SCAM "

Laheon Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 153	Posted - 2012.07.24 12:53:00 - [31] - Quote It will help if you take the free trial, but you won't get a full picture of the game. The game really opens up when you get to battlecruiser+ sized ships. You can do a lot in frigates and cruisers, but most of the content comes from BC's, T3 cruisers, battleships, etc.
Mr TamiyaCowboy Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation 121	Posted - 2012.07.24 13:55:00 - [32] - Quote Laheon wrote: It will help if you take the free trial, but you won't get a full picture of the game. The game really opens up when you get to battlecruiser+ sized ships. You can do a lot in frigates and cruisers, but most of the content comes from BC's, T3 cruisers, battleships, etc. caldari say rush job, you could be into a moa within the two weeks, around week 3-4 you would be in a ferox/drake running back to back lvl3. after 1.2 month hitting lvl 4 with a very low sp char, but getting by in just a drake kiting the boundry. from there on its the race to max shields / electronics /enginering / mechanics and the likes. when i started i made goals. 10m sp in 7 months 1 billion isk in 7 months and join one of the feared pirate player corps. i started in 2006, by 2007 i had all three bagged and ticked of. in 4 years playing i had amassed around 12+ billion isk (solo play). i made isk by selling items to the lowsec pirates on the cheap, mainly implants at first, then i branched into ship rigging, made a few billion. after that i shipped out into ismother and became of of the Atlas pets. had fun lost ships. when Atlas went down, our alliance also crashed, i lost 6 billion isk but came out alive and still able to go back to my old ways. in a way i am glad eve is a long term game, its the longest i have ever played/owned a game, it always draws me back. the day to day politics, the great wars, the people and most of all Freedom to chose my own path. no storyline end game just total freedom, and a game the player actions affect others in a chain effect
Laheon Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 153	Posted - 2012.07.24 14:25:00 - [33] - Quote Tamiya, I meant you can't do much in the free trial. Two or three weeks isn't enough time to get much done in EVE.
Thrawn01 Aldeland Sardaukar Merc Guild General Tso's Alliance 6	Posted - 2012.07.24 14:44:00 - [34] - Quote When I was new to eve I always found it amusing how nice most players were. I was at first dumb enough to check out low sec unprepared. Twice I was Ambushed by Pirates. after a short chat they told me I needed to be more prepared and always have backup in low sec. then sent me more isk than I needed to replace what I lost Plus modules to make escaping pirates easier. Eve has some of the nicest pirates around. lol.
Ten-Sidhe Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 414	Posted - 2012.07.24 16:44:00 - [35] - Quote The game continues to do an action till you tell it to stop for the most part, if you fire at something it won't stop till ammo runs out, you lose target lock, or something blows up unless you tell the ship to stop. Same thing with movement, set speed and course the ship will keep going till server shuts down if you don't stop it. The lag isn't a big issue, turn settings down if its real bad, pve could be done at 2 or 3 fps without much affect on game play. Lowsec also has faction war, this will probably be one of first points tied to dust from what I have heard. Assume a ship is destroyed when you undock, that way its a bonus when you are still alive later. Never undock with something you can't afford to lose. It is gamble even in hisec to undock with expensive items (with practice you can run through even nullsec pretty safely, but it will take loseing millions of isk to develop the skills, so you shouldn't try till you already have the skills or trusted older(in game time) players escorting/guiding you) Most players are not scammers, but the scammers are so vocal in seems like they are. So its safest to assume its a scam until proven otherwise. Jita planet 4 moon 4 station sells everything, but can have high lag, and is filled with scammers. EvE players tend to help more if you try to figure it out before asking. A lot of people get tired of seeing people ask whats in the tutorial, so do all the tutorials first. They even give you free stuff/isk, so it is worth doing them even for things you may not want to do later.
dust badger BetaMax. 283	Posted - 2012.07.24 17:33:00 - [36] - Quote invite sent shout if anyone else wants one
carl von oppenheimer Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 158	Posted - 2012.07.24 18:18:00 - [37] - Quote In Eve it's the same thing with babies and newbs; it's cuddly and adorable to see a baby to try out new things and no one wants to see a baby cry but try doing the same when you're an adult and the lack of sympathy will be quite evident.
Omnipotent lilmamaj Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire 205	Posted - 2012.07.24 18:27:00 - [38] - Quote How will I learn all the terminology? High sec? Low sec? Null sec? Ball sack? All sound the same to me...
TEBOW BAGGINS FIREFLY ATLANTIS ENTERPRISES UNLIMITED TACNET 549	Posted - 2012.07.24 18:30:00 - [39] - Quote Omnipotent lilmamaj wrote: I fear the lag that I will probably get. I run a macbook pro(laptop) and I think that may cause some problems with lag and framerate. Can some elite EvE player confirm or deny this. it runs ok on alot of PCs that arent that powerful. tho i'm not an elite player i just kill NPCs in null sec then waste it all on a month of game time to kill more NPCs for 30 days.. yea so i'm a little more excited about dust, not saying that EVE isn't great but for me it kinda sux. don't do as did and not join a corp for 2 years because ppl can see my history and they don't trust me cause I have no history of joining corps so they think I'm an alt/spy/infiltrator. I made the mistake of assuming I could solo in EVE which you can up to a certain point before it becomes extremely pointless and you'll need a fleet someday so best to join a corp early on and not become an exile like myself..
uruz7 fish FDF Industries Hedonistic Imperative 108	Posted - 2012.07.24 18:37:00 - [40] - Quote Mr TamiyaCowboy wrote: talking to a new player last night, he/she having a few problems making isk and the likes. after around a 10 min chat, i thought " how do i help this chap" dragged up my assets and took a gander. Navy Vexor ( faction cruiser) estimated at around 100 mill isk. i gave the ship to the young new player, told him/her to sell on market and use the isk to better skills and cheaper ship + fittings. some of us eve players help those newcomers, also some corps/alliances to. in if as in life " if its to good to be true ITS A SCAM " We do the same thing, we usually give the noobs 10mil to start with, then guide them along and help them out with ships and all. They turn out in the end if you show them how to walk as opposed to piggy backing them around :)

Milk Supreme ZionTCD Legacy Rising 127	Posted - 2012.07.24 18:38:00 - [41] - Quote Omnipotent lilmamaj wrote: How will I learn all the terminology? High sec? Low sec? Null sec? Ball sack? All sound the same to me... You'll pick it up over time
TEBOW BAGGINS FIREFLY ATLANTIS ENTERPRISES UNLIMITED TACNET 549	Posted - 2012.07.24 18:38:00 - [42] - Quote Omnipotent lilmamaj wrote: How will I learn all the terminology? High sec? Low sec? Null sec? Ball sack? All sound the same to me... the ingame help channels. despite the reputation that EVE players are "evil" they're also the most helpful community as far as informing others goes
carl von oppenheimer Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 158	Posted - 2012.07.24 20:49:00 - [43] - Quote Milk Supreme wrote: Omnipotent lilmamaj wrote: How will I learn all the terminology? High sec? Low sec? Null sec? Ball sack? All sound the same to me... You'll pick it up over time Concept is simple with space separated in to sectors from the safer core worlds (empire) to outlawed null sec. 1.0 - 0.5 being the highest sector, concorde instantly appears and kills the aggressor, no cynosural fields allowed thus no capitals and no warp interdiction fields (bubbles). 0.4 - 0.1 is low sec, gate guns shoot any aggressor in vicinity, still no bubbles but also no cynosural field suppression so capitals can move freely. 0.0 - (-)1.0 is the lowest possible but mainly you need to care is that in null sec nothing stops you from engaging anyone at all by any means necessary.
Ayures0 259	Posted - 2012.07.24 20:59:00 - [44] - Quote I recommend joining Eve Uni or RvB if you want a good corp to learn stuff from. If you meet the criteria, you could also join TEST or GSF, both of which are also good at helping newbros/newbees.
Olivia Robyn Doomheim 2	Posted - 2012.07.24 21:24:00 - [45] - Quote I have 2 Eve accounts and can Also Help Newer players. I have a Faction Warfare Corp Setup that Provides all the Ships and weapons for it's pilots and it's funding by a High Sec Industrial Alliance.
BAD FURRY Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 247	Posted - 2012.07.24 23:41:00 - [46] - Quote Omnipotent lilmamaj wrote: Do you think the trial version of EvE will help someone understand what the game is about? I think all the non-evers including myself should get to know the game for a better understanding of Dust. Tell me what you think EvEheads. ok iv said it be for and ill say it agen for you not eve players ... when you start playing eve for the 1st time its like being droped off in a 5 mill wide pool 12 ft deep and full of well hung hungery sharks and tolled to swim to one of the sides then ones you get done with that theres a T-rex w8ing for you when you get out and you have to out run him untill he gives up . and affter that its off to figth rapters in a cage mach to the death . and only affter that you need to out stare a cat and then you must kill god. this whole time your meat suit must stay on at all times or you will have to start all over in the pool of sharks. and if you die we will bring you back to life and you can start all over agen in the pool of sharks. PS: you may no use any rocks wallnuts guns or any thing that is not a part of you other then the meat suit if we cach you using magic we will take it a way with are God DeV powers and make you swim in a never ending pool of sharks with lazzers on there freckin haeds !
BAD FURRY Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 247	Posted - 2012.07.24 23:43:00 - [47] - Quote btw plz +1 my post
ilafey 29	Posted - 2012.07.24 23:46:00 - [48] - Quote My comp can't even get past eve char creation. It lags up and moves at 2 fpm
TEBOW BAGGINS FIREFLY ATLANTIS ENTERPRISES UNLIMITED TACNET 549	Posted - 2012.07.24 23:49:00 - [49] - Quote ilafey wrote: My comp can't even get past eve char creation. It lags up and moves at 2 fpm that means you'll get 7-15 fpm in the actual game
BAD FURRY Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 247	Posted - 2012.07.24 23:51:00 - [50] - Quote TEBOW BAGGINS wrote: ilafey wrote: My comp can't even get past eve char creation. It lags up and moves at 2 fpm that means you'll get 7-15 fpm in the actual game and .008 - .000001 FPS in a Fleet figth of 20 vs 20 ships just think what a figth of 500 vs 2000 is like !



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