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Sub Urban Hero
ZionTCD
Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2012.07.16 21:00:00 -
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I tried to in my first couple of matches, but found it way too hard. Maybe ADS tracking speed is too slow? Or is the lag (which is kinda expected in a game like Dust) preventing me from doing it? Either way, I've found myself using blind fire the vast majority of the time. Has anybody had success while aiming down your sights? |
Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
1849
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Posted - 2012.07.16 21:04:00 -
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With ARs at long range, yes. But turn speed needs to be increased a little in general.
WIth SMGs at mid-range, yes. But usually I'm aiming to be closer than that when I'm using my SMG.
You need to consider that the game isn't hitscan, so you have to lead your shots a bit rather than lining up on the guy's face and hoping he doesn't move. |
Sub Urban Hero
ZionTCD
Legacy Rising
28
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Posted - 2012.07.16 21:12:00 -
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I guess my problem is just that I haven't gotten used to the aiming mechanics of the game yet, because I'm finding it nearly impossible to keep someone in my sights if they are moving in any way. The aim assist for blindfire also seems to be crazy high which isn't exactly promoting ADS either. |
PEEEEEEETREEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Seituoda Taskforce Command
Caldari State
781
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Posted - 2012.07.16 21:13:00 -
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Garrett Blacknova wrote:You need to consider that the game isn't hitscan, so you have to lead your shots a bit rather than lining up on the guy's face and hoping he doesn't move.
Basically this.
ADS is determined by distance and style of your opponent.
If it is a scout at close range; hip fire the crap out of him.
Fatty at distance; aim down the sights right at his fat fat dome.
Edit: Fat clones are fat |
Zeekoh
Zumari Force Projection
Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.07.16 21:16:00 -
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PEEEEEEETREEEEEEEEEEEEEE wrote:Garrett Blacknova wrote:You need to consider that the game isn't hitscan, so you have to lead your shots a bit rather than lining up on the guy's face and hoping he doesn't move. Basically this. ADS is determined by distance and style of your opponent. If it is a scout at close range; hip fire the crap out of him. Fatty at distance; aim down the sights right at his fat fat dome. Edit: Fat clones are fat
Your posts usually give me a little chuckle.
EDIT - Not sure how your edit appeared in there... I didn't and don't see it in your post at all... >.> |
PEEEEEEETREEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Seituoda Taskforce Command
Caldari State
781
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Posted - 2012.07.16 21:20:00 -
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Zeekoh wrote:PEEEEEEETREEEEEEEEEEEEEE wrote:Garrett Blacknova wrote:You need to consider that the game isn't hitscan, so you have to lead your shots a bit rather than lining up on the guy's face and hoping he doesn't move. Basically this. ADS is determined by distance and style of your opponent. If it is a scout at close range; hip fire the crap out of him. Fatty at distance; aim down the sights right at his fat fat dome. Edit: Fat clones are fat Your posts usually give me a little chuckle. EDIT - Not sure how your edit appeared in there... I didn't and don't see it in your post at all... >.>
the copious amount of e's give me power. |
Sha Kharn Clone
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
1087
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Posted - 2012.07.16 21:26:00 -
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@ PEEEEEEETREEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Lolz + 1
Also I only ADS when sniping and very very rarely with and SMG if my target just wont let me close or I have no other choice. I dont use the AR so cant help with that.
Shotgun: I think I should do more but never do maybe I'm just bad.
As for the forge gun I think the sight must be broken I cant get it to work. |
JAG ONE
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Posted - 2012.07.16 21:39:00 -
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I think ADS is fugged.. i can have my reticule dead on a guy and no damage! yaaaa sweeet CCP! I used hip fire a lot. |
JAG ONE
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Posted - 2012.07.16 21:40:00 -
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Sha Kharn Clone wrote:@ PEEEEEEETREEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Lolz + 1
Also I only ADS when sniping and very very rarely with and SMG if my target just wont let me close or I have no other choice. I dont use the AR so cant help with that.
Shotgun: I think I should do more but never do maybe I'm just bad.
As for the forge gun I think the sight must be broken I cant get it to work.
Sha Kharn you playing EUR server now? I haven't ran into your scout of doom once yet..
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Jimbeezy
Imperfects
Negative-Feedback
219
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Posted - 2012.07.16 21:45:00 -
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I personally am a ADS shooter. The ADS isn't broken but it does need some work. Don't ever ADS when someone is in close range. It's not like ADS in CoD. It's more like KZ3 imo. |
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Revelations 514
Royal Uhlans
Amarr Empire
38
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Posted - 2012.07.16 22:46:00 -
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rarely, but using smg's and shotguns the situation really doesn't come up much. Hell, I have even hip fired with a sniper although I don't suggest it |
RolyatDerTeufel
D3ath D3alers
RISE of LEGION
1648
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Posted - 2012.07.16 22:48:00 -
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It's situational.
But yes an no.
close, no
medium to long, yes |
Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
1849
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Posted - 2012.07.16 22:51:00 -
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JAG ONE wrote:I think ADS is fugged.. i can have my reticule dead on a guy and no damage! yaaaa sweeet CCP! I used hip fire a lot.
If the target's moving, and you're aiming dead on, you're doing it wrong.
LEAD the target. Shoot where he WILL be, not where he won't be any more by the time the shot reaches him.
We don't have hitscan here, projectiles have travel time (hoping laser rifle is a hitscan weapon). |
Dethpuck00
Zumari Force Projection
Caldari State
5
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Posted - 2012.07.16 23:02:00 -
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PEEEEEEETREEEEEEEEEEEEEE wrote:Garrett Blacknova wrote:You need to consider that the game isn't hitscan, so you have to lead your shots a bit rather than lining up on the guy's face and hoping he doesn't move. Basically this. ADS is determined by distance and style of your opponent. If it is a scout at close range; hip fire the crap out of him. Fatty at distance; aim down the sights right at his fat fat dome. Edit: Fat clones are fat
Why yes, we are and you shot me there a few times.......until I came in, in my sniper setup and got u n the helment! BTW- Loved playing against you! U kept me havin to change tactics to counter you!
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Lost Limb
Sanmatar Kelkoons
Minmatar Republic
3
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Posted - 2012.07.16 23:07:00 -
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Sub Urban Hero wrote:I tried to in my first couple of matches, but found it way too hard. Maybe ADS tracking speed is too slow? Or is the lag (which is kinda expected in a game like Dust) preventing me from doing it? Either way, I've found myself using blind fire the vast majority of the time. Has anybody had success while aiming down your sights?
I had the same experience. First couple of games I used ADS for every gun fight, couldn't hit anything, and died usually instantly. Last set of games I played I went straight hip fire and was actually fairly successful. I managed to stay alive longer using cover, and killed a handful of guys. Granted my K/D is generally around 1, but using hipfire the game was at least enjoyable. |
Pezz IsDank
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz
RISE of LEGION
171
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Posted - 2012.07.16 23:10:00 -
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Most of my kills are by ADSing. It was a bit weird and different at first but after getting used to it I find it to be ok. ADS with SMG sucks but with ARs I find it to be ok. |
TEBOW BAGGINS
FIREFLY ATLANTIS ENTERPRISES UNLIMITED
TACNET
549
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Posted - 2012.07.16 23:10:00 -
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Sub Urban Hero wrote:I tried to in my first couple of matches, but found it way too hard. Maybe ADS tracking speed is too slow? Or is the lag (which is kinda expected in a game like Dust) preventing me from doing it? Either way, I've found myself using blind fire the vast majority of the time. Has anybody had success while aiming down your sights?
yea but it took about 5-6 hours until i could get kills with it.. i had problems at first now i love the sight for medium range.. I (assault-II AR) dont really mess with long range.. it's not worth to give away your position unless it's an obvious kill.. i try to keep my enemy at medium range where the crappy FPS and aim assist effect me the least. i've learned to kinda juke the aim assist off by burst firing a breach AR.. |
PEEEEEEETREEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Seituoda Taskforce Command
Caldari State
781
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Posted - 2012.07.16 23:11:00 -
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Dethpuck00 wrote:PEEEEEEETREEEEEEEEEEEEEE wrote:Garrett Blacknova wrote:You need to consider that the game isn't hitscan, so you have to lead your shots a bit rather than lining up on the guy's face and hoping he doesn't move. Basically this. ADS is determined by distance and style of your opponent. If it is a scout at close range; hip fire the crap out of him. Fatty at distance; aim down the sights right at his fat fat dome. Edit: Fat clones are fat Why yes, we are and you shot me there a few times.......until I came in, in my sniper setup and got u n the helment! BTW- Loved playing against you! U kept me havin to change tactics to counter you! +1
glad i challenged you! |
xprotoman23
Internal Error.
Negative-Feedback
1452
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Posted - 2012.07.16 23:38:00 -
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Jimbeezy wrote:I personally am a ADS shooter. The ADS isn't broken but it does need some work. Don't ever ADS when someone is in close range. It's not like ADS in CoD. It's more like KZ3 imo.
KZ3 ADS is exactly like COD. |
SoLJae
ZionTCD
Legacy Rising
351
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Posted - 2012.07.16 23:50:00 -
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RolyatDerTeufel wrote:It's situational.
But yes an no.
close, no
medium to long, yes
This. |
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Azura dark
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Posted - 2012.07.16 23:53:00 -
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because ads is terrible atm, feels stiff and hard to track targets, so most kills are done from the hip. and the range i can kill people at when i hip fire, with an ar is a little far imo. controls feel to clunky, i'm hoping this is improves in the august build. but for now the game is hipfire to win :P |
Bobphilsfred
16
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Posted - 2012.07.17 00:38:00 -
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I personally love the ADS in this game. I get almost all of my kills while ADS, I only hip fire to finish wounded enemies and strafe faster at very close ranges. |
Sha Kharn Clone
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
1087
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Posted - 2012.07.17 00:43:00 -
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JAG ONE wrote:Sha Kharn Clone wrote:@ PEEEEEEETREEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Lolz + 1
Also I only ADS when sniping and very very rarely with and SMG if my target just wont let me close or I have no other choice. I dont use the AR so cant help with that.
Shotgun: I think I should do more but never do maybe I'm just bad.
As for the forge gun I think the sight must be broken I cant get it to work. Sha Kharn you playing EUR server now? I haven't ran into your scout of doom once yet..
Yea I'm EU only but no scout of doom cos I stupidly trained up Heavy and Logi suits and all the trimmings only to find that yea I dont like em lolz. Best to do this in the beta right :)
Training 4 scout this weekend tho Proto scout here we come \o/
See ya in game bud |
Jesse Jayne
ZionTCD
Legacy Rising
206
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Posted - 2012.07.17 00:45:00 -
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I always aerial dive stab. Who doesn't? |
Sha Kharn Clone
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
1087
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Posted - 2012.07.17 00:47:00 -
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Garrett Blacknova wrote:JAG ONE wrote:I think ADS is fugged.. i can have my reticule dead on a guy and no damage! yaaaa sweeet CCP! I used hip fire a lot. If the target's moving, and you're aiming dead on, you're doing it wrong. LEAD the target. Shoot where he WILL be, not where he won't be any more by the time the shot reaches him. We don't have hitscan here, projectiles have travel time (hoping laser rifle is a hitscan weapon).
This^
But dont lead with the sniper rifle the round goes so dam fast you dont realy need to in this build...adjust for your lag tho. |
Project Icarus 001
7
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Posted - 2012.07.17 04:10:00 -
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Unless the guys 5 feet away I ads.
Its pretty slow ads, but I manage recoil better ads. |
Jimbeezy
Imperfects
Negative-Feedback
219
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Posted - 2012.07.17 04:35:00 -
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xprotoman23 wrote:Jimbeezy wrote:I personally am a ADS shooter. The ADS isn't broken but it does need some work. Don't ever ADS when someone is in close range. It's not like ADS in CoD. It's more like KZ3 imo. KZ3 ADS is exactly like COD.
I disagree. The hip fire accuracy is for more accurate in KZ3 vs CoD. It's almost like they added ADS shooting in KZ just to make fans happy. I remember the ADS speeds being garbage. |
Laurent Cazaderon
Villore Sec Ops
Gallente Federation
1155
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Posted - 2012.07.17 10:40:00 -
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i almost only use ADS. Not matter the range, as long as the fight is not too shaky, i use ADS. |
Buzzwords
Deadly Blue Dots
RISE of LEGION
416
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Posted - 2012.07.17 11:31:00 -
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try popping in and out at close/mid range. ADS if you have him centered up, if recoil gets you off target or he outruns you, pop out and hipfire (or just stop shooting) until you "catch up" then pop back in. |
Danfen Stark
Algintal Core
Gallente Federation
93
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Posted - 2012.07.17 11:42:00 -
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I do it in 'almost' every firefight, apart from those 1-2 meter brawls. I don't 'keep' it up though, I'll pulse it depending on distance/how my target is moving, to make sure I keep my sight on him.
E.g. 10m firefight, we're both moving around. I'll aim, shoot, unaim & move a bit faster to avoid bullets/get in to cover, aim again & shoot, and repeat. Tends to work, as they're either spraying from the hip & missing a lot more, or constantly ADS & so losing out on the extra movement speed. It's all situational though. |
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Hawke3321
Villore Sec Ops
Gallente Federation
3
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Posted - 2012.07.17 14:27:00 -
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I only ADS at mid-long range. Hipfire always up close. |
fenrir storm
Tronhadar Free Guard
Minmatar Republic
314
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Posted - 2012.07.17 14:43:00 -
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With these sights no |
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