I think a interactive tutorial instead of just walls of text would be best for us console guys. I like fps games but I don't play them to read for ages.

I like this game, and I want to supply the devs with ideas to improve this game.

1. The Game Is Difficult To Understand.
I mostly play Skirmish because it is reminiscent of Battlefield. Yet, I dont understand how to stop the MCC because although my team may have all of the capture points it will still dock. There are no instructions given to the player or an explanation of the game mode. I was shooting at the MCC with a turret for 4 minutes before realizing I wasnt doing any damage. It would be great to have a little introduction during the loading screen or a quick text when you are first spawned explaining the terms of victory or defeat in detail.

2. Shooting.
The shooting in this game is rather difficult. it only takes a jump and a quick strafe left and right to escape gunfire and it gets quite frustrating. It would be great if there was magnetism (a.k.a. Aim Assist) or a slightly larger hitbox. Sniping is practically obsolete in Skirmish because the shooting is so unforgiving, and you will probably run out of ammo when you finally start hitting people. Do you have to lead shots or not? Maybe a tutorial for sniping would help.

3. Menus are not user friendly.
I think the menus need to offer more details, and be a bit more streamlined. (The Market menu is modeled right after the PSN.) Theres alot of options and the best way to make it more streamlined is to offer a more intuitive, general approach to categories. For example, instead of listing all of the weapon types, set it up with sidescrolling tabs that show a picture of a kind of gun, the general name of the gun, i.e. shotgun, AR, etc., and a brief description of the functionality(ies) of that kind of gun.

4. Lag.
This is understandable, this is a new game in its beta phase, I know... but the servers definitely have to be in better shape by the time the game is actually released.

5. SPAWN SYSTEM
This problem is capitalized because it is the most ANNOYING aspect of the game. There has been countless times where I have spawned in Skirmish and have been mowed down by someone waiting for me to spawn. There HAS to be a safespawn aspect in the spawn system for players trying to get directly involved in the action to defend a console being hacked.

6. Weapons
The game rewards high leveled players with high powered equipment, and it really isnt fair. I cant tell you how many times I have been outgunned by someone using a CreoDron Assault Rifle. I understand that high level players need to be rewarded but sometimes I feel as though my gun doesnt hurt the person im shooting. Overall, damage needs to be increased or health decreased.

7. Tutorials.
A game this complex needs tutorials to explain all of the concepts to the players. Im completely new to the EVE universe, so it would be cool to know how we interact with them, and what the star map has to do with anything. Also, a tutorial for how to make a dropsuit and what each element of a dropsuit does would be greatly appreciated.

That's how Eve works, deal with it.

EVE Online is a Space Simulation MMO, Dust 514 is an FPSMMO. 'Because EVE did it' then becomes the rallying call of morons who can't get over the fact that Dust isn't EVE and they need to allow it to be it's own game.

EVE may not be DUST, but New Eden is still New Eden in both games.

So yes, the EVE refererence and the insistence on this being part of EVE are relevant.

I think a interactive tutorial instead of just walls of text would be best for us console guys. I like fps games but I don't play them to read for ages.

1)This isn't battlefield or Call of Duty where all weapons do about the same damage.
2) No in this game the more leveled you are in your skills the more unbeatable you will be. The whole inner workings of Eve has been based on this model and this game is simply an extension of Eve.

EVE Online is a Space Simulation MMO, Dust 514 is an FPSMMO. 'Because EVE did it' then becomes the rallying call of morons who can't get over the fact that Dust isn't EVE and they need to allow it to be it's own game.

[quote=Azura dark]I think a interactive tutorial instead of just walls of text would be best for us console guys. I like fps games but I don't play them to read for ages.

EVE Online is a Space Simulation MMO, Dust 514 is an FPSMMO. 'Because EVE did it' then becomes the rallying call of morons who can't get over the fact that Dust isn't EVE and they need to allow it to be it's own game.

2) Thsi is the description of a RPG not a FPS.

umm no, this game was not made for eve players, it was made for CONSOLE FPS players.
we have hardly any mmo's on ps3, most console players have never played a gaming pc, and are not used to deep mmo elements in a game. look at it like this, the biggest croud ccp would get are people from cod, battlefield and the ex mag guys... can you see a cod or bf player starting up a fps game so they can sit there and read for an hour.
my pal got a beta code and i was at his house when he started playing, the first thing he did was skip reading the tutorial.
text is fine , just not walls and walls of it.

The tutorials right now are crap and I'm pretty sure will be fixed hopefully. There is no reason not to have a better tutorial; simply a few boxes of text isn't going to clear anything up such for a game such as dust , otherwise ccp wouldnt be trying to streamline the game or offer the NPE.

I like this game, and I want to supply the devs with ideas to improve this game.

1. The Game Is Difficult To Understand.
I mostly play Skirmish because it is reminiscent of Battlefield. Yet, I dont understand how to stop the MCC because although my team may have all of the capture points it will still dock. There are no instructions given to the player or an explanation of the game mode. I was shooting at the MCC with a turret for 4 minutes before realizing I wasnt doing any damage. It would be great to have a little introduction during the loading screen or a quick text when you are first spawned explaining the terms of victory or defeat in detail.

2. Shooting.
The shooting in this game is rather difficult. it only takes a jump and a quick strafe left and right to escape gunfire and it gets quite frustrating. It would be great if there was magnetism (a.k.a. Aim Assist) or a slightly larger hitbox. Sniping is practically obsolete in Skirmish because the shooting is so unforgiving, and you will probably run out of ammo when you finally start hitting people. Do you have to lead shots or not? Maybe a tutorial for sniping would help.

3. Menus are not user friendly.
I think the menus need to offer more details, and be a bit more streamlined. (The Market menu is modeled right after the PSN.) Theres alot of options and the best way to make it more streamlined is to offer a more intuitive, general approach to categories. For example, instead of listing all of the weapon types, set it up with sidescrolling tabs that show a picture of a kind of gun, the general name of the gun, i.e. shotgun, AR, etc., and a brief description of the functionality(ies) of that kind of gun.

4. Lag.
This is understandable, this is a new game in its beta phase, I know... but the servers definitely have to be in better shape by the time the game is actually released.

5. SPAWN SYSTEM
This problem is capitalized because it is the most ANNOYING aspect of the game. There has been countless times where I have spawned in Skirmish and have been mowed down by someone waiting for me to spawn. There HAS to be a safespawn aspect in the spawn system for players trying to get directly involved in the action to defend a console being hacked.

6. Weapons
The game rewards high leveled players with high powered equipment, and it really isnt fair. I cant tell you how many times I have been outgunned by someone using a CreoDron Assault Rifle. I understand that high level players need to be rewarded but sometimes I feel as though my gun doesnt hurt the person im shooting. Overall, damage needs to be increased or health decreased.

7. Tutorials.
A game this complex needs tutorials to explain all of the concepts to the players. Im completely new to the EVE universe, so it would be cool to know how we interact with them, and what the star map has to do with anything. Also, a tutorial for how to make a dropsuit and what each element of a dropsuit does would be greatly appreciated.

you will probably run out of ammo when you finally start hitting people. Do you have to lead shots or not? Maybe a tutorial for sniping would help.

2) Thsi is the description of a RPG not a FPS.

umm no, this game was not made for eve players, it was made for CONSOLE FPS players.
we have hardly any mmo's on ps3, most console players have never played a gaming pc, and are not used to deep mmo elements in a game. look at it like this, the biggest croud ccp would get are people from cod, battlefield and the ex mag guys... can you see a cod or bf player starting up a fps game so they can sit there and read for an hour.
my pal got a beta code and i was at his house when he started playing, the first thing he did was skip reading the tutorial.
text is fine , just not walls and walls of it.

The tutorials right now are crap and I'm pretty sure will be fixed hopefully. There is no reason not to have a better tutorial; simply a few boxes of text isn't going to clear anything up such for a game such as dust , otherwise ccp wouldnt be trying to streamline the game or offer the NPE.

Also one other thing, everyone is a sociopathic *******. I'm being what is considered "nice" right now. Don't get used to it. You will be tricked scammed and exploited because that is how the Eve universe works. Get used to it, adapt or die.

yeah so pretty much i am not gonna get into this game too much. so yeah hardcore fps players don't get to interact in an awesome universe and affect awesomeness because of lack of time to improve skills. hints why we plays fps's lol.

btw i'd love to get into this game!!! :( been waiting on it for about three years now and have been wanting to have more meaning on the battlefield but not necessarily all the skill building. some but not all. lol. its too much for hardcore fps players.

Then you won't do good with Dust. Eve is entirely walls of text as its tutorials and this game was made for Eve players.



1. Hold points ABC to damage the MCC and win gg
2. There is no aim assist because CCP is forcing people into using a Mouse and keyboard with the game.
3. That's how Eve works, deal with it.
4. I don't see any lag at all its probably your connection or your joining the EU servers instead of US ones.
5. Yes its bugged yes theyre fixing it.
6. Again that's how Eve works, deal with it.
7. Finally that's how Eve works, deal with it.

You see to have misconceptions about Dust 514. This isn't battlefield or Call of Duty where all weapons do about the same damage. No in this game the more leveled you are in your skills the more unbeatable you will be. The whole inner workings of Eve has been based on this model and this game is simply an extension of Eve.

Case in point: Take time to learn about Eve and its skills and modules and how things work and understanding of Dust will come along with that.


Also one other thing, everyone is a sociopathic *******. I'm being what is considered "nice" right now. Don't get used to it. You will be tricked scammed and exploited because that is how the Eve universe works. Get used to it, adapt or die.

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