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King Snuggler
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.07.01 05:35:00 -
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Been testing the game out and one thing that kinda is off putting as a EVE Online player coming into this exciting new game is the amount of people hopping around everywhere with no limits, even in the Battlefield FPS jumping is limited to a extent, I think that jumping would benefit being limited and tied into stamina so we don't see a bunch of people jumping around like a bunch of morons, a tweak or something would help and not turn this game into a bunnyhopping match , you don't see people in RL bunnyhopping in war why should we in a game. |
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SuperKing BigNuts
Trinity Council Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2012.07.01 05:41:00 -
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it is tied to stamina... some people just ahve a lot more stamina... |
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Zekain Kade
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Posted - 2012.07.01 06:06:00 -
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A normal person can only jump twice before running out of stamina.
this game may be tied into EVE, but it is NOT EVE. |
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Mavado V Noriega
SyNergy Gaming
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Posted - 2012.07.01 06:17:00 -
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Zekain Kade wrote:A normal person can only jump twice before running out of stamina.
this game may be tied into EVE, but it is NOT EVE.
this. QQers need to gtfo tbh already got strafe nerfed AGAIN from all the tears of ppl who cant aim or refuse to get better gun game and learn to aim better. ppl can only jump twice and its not even effective tbh unless again u cant aim
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Ile Faded
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.07.01 06:47:00 -
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Mavado V Noriega wrote:Zekain Kade wrote:A normal person can only jump twice before running out of stamina.
this game may be tied into EVE, but it is NOT EVE. this. QQers need to gtfo tbh already got strafe nerfed AGAIN from all the tears of ppl who cant aim or refuse to get better gun game and learn to aim better. ppl can only jump twice and its not even effective tbh unless again u cant aim
/\ What everyone was thinking, but wouldn't say... ![Big smile](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_smile-big.png)
But on a serious note, does anyone know who started this fad? But like for real I'm being really serious about wanting to know who the first person to start this fad was... for sh*ts and giggles. |
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Bjorn Shepherd
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.07.01 07:24:00 -
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Strafing and bunny hopping is my anti every one that isn't a scout strategy.The extra stamina from the stamina regulators is very useful. It works well when everyone is distracted by me and gets killed by my teammates. I sometimes do this to turn a gunfight my teams way. The fact that the dragonfly suit's colors also grabs attentions kind of helps. |
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Clone 154762
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.07.01 07:36:00 -
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The only people that can bunny hop more then twice and still run are scouts...and there squishy. |
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Skytt Syysch
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.07.01 07:40:00 -
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Zekain Kade wrote:A normal person can only jump twice before running out of stamina.
Good thing we're super soldiers. ![Blink](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_blink.png)
I don't jump (often); I play as a heavy and kill most jumpers before they hit the ground. |
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Indy Strizer
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2012.07.01 10:14:00 -
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Personally, I would love to be able to jump one extra time, but that's just me.
The game as it is, does a decent job of letting me bunny hop, but not to the point where I'm bunny hopping everywhere... Once I've started hopping in a gun fight, I've usually given up my chance to run away for cover.
I usually watch how full my stamina gauge is fairly often just to make sure I can be ready to move away or around enemies in case... Anymore limits on mobility at this point, would be too much.
I do not understand why people have such an aversion to mobility, it is fine the way it is in my opinion... |
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Orin the Freak
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2012.07.01 10:24:00 -
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This seems like a wasted thread. Why couldn't this have been another thread about nerfing tanks or something? This is just paltry in comparison.
I have little to no issue with jumping the way it is. In fact, I strive to kill people in mid-air, for extra lulz. It's a wonderful feeling. |
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Ni4Ni Rhealee
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.07.01 10:31:00 -
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I will admit im a terrible fps player, i can't aim for ****, and i understand this is not a realistic shooter.
It still pisses me off every time i see someone jumping up and down to somehow avoid bullets. Yet the guy running around in scout suit with that 1 shot shotgun still seems fair lol. The jumping is pretty ******* ********, id be happy to have the interact with obstacles kinda like gears of war or similar.
If we have low gravity planets or maps, thats where all the rabbits can go play. |
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Nick Phantom
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.07.01 11:47:00 -
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You know whats even funnier than killing a hopper? Killing a guy while I'm hopping lmao. Seriously though if jumping is going to save your life in actual combat would you do it? heck yes you would. I jump and jump and jump and I don't care if it makes you mad I have all kinds of good stuff for stamina that I PAID for with my own ISK so I could run, jump, and frolic if i needed to. I'll usually jump off of something or onto something anything to get your cross hairs off of me for one more second so my shields aren't depleted. I run assault class with a stamina catalyst and wherever it's called that refills stamina faster.
Just so everyone knows if you run across me in battle and I run and jump it's not because I'm happy to see you. I'm over joyed that I get to make you have a very very bad day. Also I make it a habit to know where my team is so if i start loosing i run run run and jump if need be so i can go hide behind a tank and let him show you a thing or two about what the word heavy means. LMAO!
If everything has an equal and opposite reaction then I'm what the heavies have caused me to be.
Now for a short story about hopping and running against a heavy.
I was on a hill and a heavy was at the base long as i didn't move forward i was safe. I knew I couldn't beat him and was all outta grenades. So I huffed and I puffed my way all the way around the base of the tower and found myself behind him. I took my aim and placed him square in my sights I only have a few seconds to turn out his lights. With him still waiting and myself positioned behind him up on some pipes, I opened fire with my assault rifle. Bullets flying the poor lad didn't stand a chance he hit the ground and just for giggles I went over shot him in the FACE so he remembered a lesson. Guys in an assault dropsuit run fast when they have a stamina catalyzer fitted. The End.![Twisted](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_twisted.png)
That being said i have less shields and sacrifice in other areas to help keep these abilities open for myself. It's a strategy and it's available to everyone and not that bad. You can still hit me while I'm jumping so if your mad about it obviously your the one that can't aim.
PS i don't just hop randomly when i hop it's usually when there is something to jump on and off of. for example if someone is shooting me I'll jump onto a low bed truck (when i'm being spawn camped at C on the plateau map) then hop off at the person spawn camping all the while releasing a fury of bullets at the lazy spawn camper. I've spawned the camper and boy does it feel good. that sounds dirty.... lol |
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JONLUK167
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.07.01 12:20:00 -
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Yeah makes you fell like your playing HALO huh wow this is so much different then any other FPS like Battle Field,Modern Warfair, oops just the scenery. |
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Mavado V Noriega
SyNergy Gaming
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Posted - 2012.07.01 14:34:00 -
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Orin the Freak wrote:This seems like a wasted thread. Why couldn't this have been another thread about nerfing tanks or something? This is just paltry in comparison.
I have little to no issue with jumping the way it is. In fact, I strive to kill people in mid-air, for extra lulz. It's a wonderful feeling.
why should tanks be nerfed? they need to remove the free tanks and dropships tbh part of the vehicle balance is the cost involved to bring in a tank or dropship now every scrubling can order free tanks and dropships over and over |
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Dan Pennus
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.07.01 14:37:00 -
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The funny thing is that they actually think that it will improve their odds of survival...the only thing that they achieve is looking like idiots...lol |
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Aiden Angel
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.07.01 14:37:00 -
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I think the jumping is fine. It's already tied into your stamina bar and most people can only jump twice. I don't see this as a problem at all and I like the mobility as is. |
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Torkada Alamstrada
Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.07.01 14:41:00 -
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Nick Phantom wrote: I jump and jump and jump and I don't care if it makes you mad I have all kinds of good stuff for stamina that I PAID for with my own ISK so I could run, jump, and frolic if i needed to.l
I agree completely, and I play a guy who keeps his boots firmly on the ground. People with stamina increase gear can't jump. People with stamina increase gear can. That seems eminently fair. Just like my suit can regenerate its armor, not just shields, and do it while somebody else is still waiting to get their shields back. |
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Aighun
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.07.01 14:47:00 -
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Also try search. RIght next to forum index. I am often too lazy to use search myself. But before anyone can make another thread on this topic I would request that they be required to read every other thread on jumping and "bunny hopping" that already exists.
Yes, you can dodge a few bullets. Yes it looks silly. But you can't cover much ground and you can barely jump over a rock or a crate.
*Edit - and this is with a decent scout suit and some modules. |
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Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.07.01 14:47:00 -
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Ile Faded wrote:Mavado V Noriega wrote:Zekain Kade wrote:A normal person can only jump twice before running out of stamina.
this game may be tied into EVE, but it is NOT EVE. this. QQers need to gtfo tbh already got strafe nerfed AGAIN from all the tears of ppl who cant aim or refuse to get better gun game and learn to aim better. ppl can only jump twice and its not even effective tbh unless again u cant aim /\ What everyone was thinking, but wouldn't say... ![Big smile](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_smile-big.png) But on a serious note, does anyone know who started this fad? But like for real I'm being really serious about wanting to know who the first person to start this fad was... for sh*ts and giggles.
I first saw it in halo for og xbox. its still stupid today! |
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Chad Rash
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Posted - 2012.07.01 15:05:00 -
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Really is this what this generation of gamers are doing now? Cying about jumping? Uninstall the damn game!!! |
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Hawk Von Draum
Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.07.01 15:27:00 -
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it is my hope that different planets will have different gravity and that in turn will affect jumping, i currently am taking the excessive jumping to mean that were on a fairly low gravity planet. |
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Ender Storm
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.07.01 16:38:00 -
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IMO the movement is better in thi build than in the previous one. And I was a firm defender of the movement nerf.
CCP now has a serious task ahead that is to fix hit detection.
We are firing weapons normal beings could not hope to hold, still bullets are so slow that if you have to lead targets?
We arent jetplanes. And if we are, give me missiles. |
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Ender Storm
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.07.01 16:40:00 -
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Hawk Von Draum wrote:it is my hope that different planets will have different gravity and that in turn will affect jumping, i currently am taking the excessive jumping to mean that were on a fairly low gravity planet.
I believe it should be a factor regarding height, but not frequency. |
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SILENTSAM 69
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Posted - 2012.07.01 16:51:00 -
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Why do people not pay attention to the game before they post?
There is a limit to jumping, no one jumps without limit. There is stamina that stops you from jumping too much, knifing too much, sprinting too much. |
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Posted - 2012.07.01 16:52:00 -
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Ender Storm wrote:IMO the movement is better in thi build than in the previous one. And I was a firm defender of the movement nerf.
CCP now has a serious task ahead that is to fix hit detection.
We are firing weapons normal beings could not hope to hold, still bullets are so slow that if you have to lead targets?
We arent jetplanes. And if we are, give me missiles. Hit detection was fixed. Hit detection is not nearly the problem people think it is.
The games hit detection is good enough that bullets going between the legs do nothing and it seems different limbs take different damage. |
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Aelyth Styrk
Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.07.01 16:54:00 -
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Hit detection is fine, but people tend to just do it the EVE way (get close and orbit; then shoot) which is a bit odd for a shooter. |
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Nick Phantom
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Posted - 2012.07.01 20:17:00 -
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Dan Pennus wrote:The funny thing is that they actually think that it will improve their odds of survival...the only thing that they achieve is looking like idiots...lol
whats your K/D?
Mines 1.08 and I can name plenty of times jumping has gotten me out of a jam. If used properly. |
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Posted - 2012.07.02 13:43:00 -
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King Snuggler wrote:Been testing the game out and one thing that kinda is off putting as a EVE Online player coming into this exciting new game is the amount of people hopping around everywhere with no limits, even in the Battlefield FPS jumping is limited to a extent, I think that jumping would benefit being limited and tied into stamina so we don't see a bunch of people jumping around like a bunch of morons, a tweak or something would help and not turn this game into a bunnyhopping match , you don't see people in RL bunnyhopping in war why should we in a game.
this is a game not RL and if you dont like it how not ever one wants to sit and camp go play some other game in the mean time im bunny hopping out of here!![Big smile](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_smile-big.png) |
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Codex Troopers
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Posted - 2012.07.02 13:59:00 -
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Nick Phantom wrote:Dan Pennus wrote:The funny thing is that they actually think that it will improve their odds of survival...the only thing that they achieve is looking like idiots...lol whats your K/D? Mines 1.08 and I can name plenty of times jumping has gotten me out of a jam. If used properly.
Well-timed jumps are quite a different situation to bunnyhopping. |
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