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Mejt0 Made in Poland... 2815	Posted - 2017.06.24 23:17:00 - [31] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: This brings me to what CCP Rattati can learn from all this for Project Nova. We have now seen how extremely toxic players can be with picks and meta heroes in Overwatch. I am hoping CCP Rattati does not create a competitive system that encourages players to stick to the meta. I would really like to see a competitive-level Project Nova where players don't need to rely on sticking to the flavor of the month just to progress in competitive and instead rely on their skills and how they coordinate with their teammates better. I don't think we should worry about this. Even in Dust, while fotm was a thing it wasn't necessary to compete on a serious level. There was a literal counter to everything. And now with the vehicles gone they have no excuse in terms of balance. Vigilant Pilot Happy Hunting
Maken Tosch DUST University 13788	Posted - 2017.06.24 23:42:00 - [32] - Quote Mejt0 wrote: Maken Tosch wrote: This brings me to what CCP Rattati can learn from all this for Project Nova. We have now seen how extremely toxic players can be with picks and meta heroes in Overwatch. I am hoping CCP Rattati does not create a competitive system that encourages players to stick to the meta. I would really like to see a competitive-level Project Nova where players don't need to rely on sticking to the flavor of the month just to progress in competitive and instead rely on their skills and how they coordinate with their teammates better. I don't think we should worry about this. Even in Dust, while fotm was a thing it wasn't necessary to compete on a serious level. There was a literal counter to everything. And now with the vehicles gone they have no excuse in terms of balance. Pretty much. I couldn't possibly see vehicles being used in competitive modes for Project Nova. Eve Online Invite https://secure.eveonline.com/trial/?invc=ed64524f-15ca-4997-ab92-eaae0af74b7f&action=buddy
Maken Tosch DUST University 13788	Posted - 2017.06.24 23:43:00 - [33] - Quote deadpool lifetone wrote: . Dont ever dever ever compare a weak game like OverWatch to Dust514 lol seriously though , we ( smart guys ) had to do a bit of number crunching in dust back in the day with the spreadsheets to make o.p fits & pass it along . The beauty of it was that there were actual counter measures for each one . OverWatch doesn't even come close to the 'Meta' level of Dust . Spreadsheets Online Spreadsheets 514 And now... Spreadsheets Nova Eve Online Invite https://secure.eveonline.com/trial/?invc=ed64524f-15ca-4997-ab92-eaae0af74b7f&action=buddy
Maken Tosch DUST University 13788	Posted - 2017.06.24 23:44:00 - [34] - Quote Richard Gamerich-R wrote: Ranked in Overwatch PC become more serious around plat/diamond, don't expect too much about your team before that. In the meantime, I will continue to play on as Hanzo being told to kill myself and be reported for throwing. Damn, suddenly getting suicide ganked in Eve Online sounds more pleasant. Eve Online Invite https://secure.eveonline.com/trial/?invc=ed64524f-15ca-4997-ab92-eaae0af74b7f&action=buddy
One Eyed King Nos Nothi 17243	Posted - 2017.06.25 00:01:00 - [35] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: deadpool lifetone wrote: . Dont ever dever ever compare a weak game like OverWatch to Dust514 lol seriously though , we ( smart guys ) had to do a bit of number crunching in dust back in the day with the spreadsheets to make o.p fits & pass it along . The beauty of it was that there were actual counter measures for each one . OverWatch doesn't even come close to the 'Meta' level of Dust . Spreadsheets Online Spreadsheets 514 And now... Spreadsheets Nova *Spreadsheets Phoenix Former CEO of the Land of the BIind. Any double entendre is unintended I assure you.
Radiant Pancake3 Y.A.M.A.H 4886	Posted - 2017.06.25 00:09:00 - [36] - Quote Yeahhhhhh, it's pretttttty bad. I main Symmetra doe. kekekeke. "A quantum super computer, calculating for a thousand years, could not even approach the number of fucks I do not give."
Radiant Pancake3 Y.A.M.A.H 4886	Posted - 2017.06.25 00:11:00 - [37] - Quote xxwhitedevilxx M wrote: Richard Gamerich-R wrote: Ranked in Overwatch PC become more serious around plat/diamond, don't expect too much about your team before that. I am between plat/diamond constantly and can confirm that a good 50% of the times squad compositions are not good...like at all. For example, I wouldn't define myself a good healer but I often have to pick Mercy or whetever the squad needs...just because I don't want to lose yet another match :/ And this would obviously be counterproductive since I'm playing a role that doesn't fit my playstyle. This. "A quantum super computer, calculating for a thousand years, could not even approach the number of fucks I do not give."
xxwhitedevilxx M Maphia Clan Corporation 3952	Posted - 2017.06.25 01:42:00 - [38] - Quote Radiant Pancake3 wrote: xxwhitedevilxx M wrote: Richard Gamerich-R wrote: Ranked in Overwatch PC become more serious around plat/diamond, don't expect too much about your team before that. I am between plat/diamond constantly and can confirm that a good 50% of the times squad compositions are not good...like at all. For example, I wouldn't define myself a good healer but I often have to pick Mercy or whetever the squad needs...just because I don't want to lose yet another match :/ And this would obviously be counterproductive since I'm playing a role that doesn't fit my playstyle. This. Today I tried to be a bit more stubborn than usual. Results: played 5 matches, 4 times without healer and one match with only one tank (me). Needless to say, all of them lost. take time or take aurums (Gò»#-_-)Gò»~~~GòºGòÉGòº [FSTNM SCDNM] #PortDust514
Radiant Pancake3 Y.A.M.A.H 4886	Posted - 2017.06.25 01:51:00 - [39] - Quote xxwhitedevilxx M wrote: Radiant Pancake3 wrote: xxwhitedevilxx M wrote: Richard Gamerich-R wrote: Ranked in Overwatch PC become more serious around plat/diamond, don't expect too much about your team before that. I am between plat/diamond constantly and can confirm that a good 50% of the times squad compositions are not good...like at all. For example, I wouldn't define myself a good healer but I often have to pick Mercy or whetever the squad needs...just because I don't want to lose yet another match :/ And this would obviously be counterproductive since I'm playing a role that doesn't fit my playstyle. This. Today I tried to be a bit more stubborn than usual. Results: played 5 matches, 4 times without healer and one match with only one tank (me). Needless to say, all of them lost. I play anything but the tank role... well I have someone I like to main for everyone but the tank role. "A quantum super computer, calculating for a thousand years, could not even approach the number of fucks I do not give."
Shotty GoBang Nos Nothi 4917	Posted - 2017.06.25 17:31:00 - [40] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: They don't like specialists. They want everyone to get in line and be peer pressured into following the meta (aka flavor of the month) ... I didn't see much of this happen ... in Dust Killer Bees + Duvolles in early Uprising comes to mind. Heavies were terrible. Scouts were terrible. Assaults were outmatched by HP-tanked Logi. IIRC Killer Bees were remedied within a couple builds following Uprising's release, but AR-514 lasted quite awhile longer (1yr?) o7

DeadlyAztec11 10238	Posted - 2017.06.25 19:39:00 - [41] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: There I am. https://playoverwatch.com/en-us/career/pc/us/GrumpyKitten-115526 SR 1158 https://www.overbuff.com/players/psn/DeadlyAztec11?mode=competitive Yo, SR 4182 right here. Things won't get much better the higher you go. There will be more people that understand how to play, but cooperation never really becomes standard. Put your flags up in the sky. And wave them side to side. Show the world where you're from. Show the world we are one.
xxwhitedevilxx M Maphia Clan Corporation 3954	Posted - 2017.06.25 20:20:00 - [42] - Quote DeadlyAztec11 wrote: Maken Tosch wrote: There I am. https://playoverwatch.com/en-us/career/pc/us/GrumpyKitten-115526 SR 1158 https://www.overbuff.com/players/psn/DeadlyAztec11?mode=competitive Yo, SR 4182 right here. Things won't get much better the higher you go. There will be more people that understand how to play, but cooperation never really becomes standard. Aren't you basically forced to cooperate in GM? take time or take aurums (Gò»#-_-)Gò»~~~GòºGòÉGòº [FSTNM SCDNM] #PortDust514
Maken Tosch DUST University 13788	Posted - 2017.06.25 23:36:00 - [43] - Quote xxwhitedevilxx M wrote: DeadlyAztec11 wrote: Maken Tosch wrote: There I am. https://playoverwatch.com/en-us/career/pc/us/GrumpyKitten-115526 SR 1158 https://www.overbuff.com/players/psn/DeadlyAztec11?mode=competitive Yo, SR 4182 right here. Things won't get much better the higher you go. There will be more people that understand how to play, but cooperation never really becomes standard. Aren't you basically forced to cooperate in GM? That would be the only time I would ever cooperate which is why I have a backup main that I play once in a while to refresh myself. Once I get to GM I won't have any other goal and thus will be more inclined to switch. Eve Online Invite https://secure.eveonline.com/trial/?invc=ed64524f-15ca-4997-ab92-eaae0af74b7f&action=buddy
Bright Cloud Namtar Elite Gallente Federation 1966	Posted - 2017.06.26 01:40:00 - [44] - Quote xxwhitedevilxx M wrote: DeadlyAztec11 wrote: Maken Tosch wrote: There I am. https://playoverwatch.com/en-us/career/pc/us/GrumpyKitten-115526 SR 1158 https://www.overbuff.com/players/psn/DeadlyAztec11?mode=competitive Yo, SR 4182 right here. Things won't get much better the higher you go. There will be more people that understand how to play, but cooperation never really becomes standard. Aren't you basically forced to cooperate in GM? Good joke, the only reason why teamplay is better at GM is that we usually know how to play. Except fo the one trick ponys which i despite. Espacially mercy mains are basically SR leechers. Oh btw: https://www.overbuff.com/players/psn/Dark-Cloud666?mode=competitive Rudimentary Mercs of scrubs and incompetence. You touch my mind, fumbling in Ignorance, incapable of understanding.
One Eyed King Nos Nothi 17245	Posted - 2017.06.26 02:31:00 - [45] - Quote Bright Cloud wrote: xxwhitedevilxx M wrote: DeadlyAztec11 wrote: Maken Tosch wrote: There I am. https://playoverwatch.com/en-us/career/pc/us/GrumpyKitten-115526 SR 1158 https://www.overbuff.com/players/psn/DeadlyAztec11?mode=competitive Yo, SR 4182 right here. Things won't get much better the higher you go. There will be more people that understand how to play, but cooperation never really becomes standard. Aren't you basically forced to cooperate in GM? Good joke, the only reason why teamplay is better at GM is that we usually know how to play. Except fo the one trick ponys which i despite. Espacially mercy mains are basically SR leechers. Oh btw: https://www.overbuff.com/players/psn/Dark-Cloud666?mode=competitive I despite people too Former CEO of the Land of the BIind. Any double entendre is unintended I assure you.
xxwhitedevilxx M Maphia Clan Corporation 3955	Posted - 2017.06.26 03:28:00 - [46] - Quote Bright Cloud wrote: xxwhitedevilxx M wrote: DeadlyAztec11 wrote: Maken Tosch wrote: There I am. https://playoverwatch.com/en-us/career/pc/us/GrumpyKitten-115526 SR 1158 https://www.overbuff.com/players/psn/DeadlyAztec11?mode=competitive Yo, SR 4182 right here. Things won't get much better the higher you go. There will be more people that understand how to play, but cooperation never really becomes standard. Aren't you basically forced to cooperate in GM? Good joke, the only reason why teamplay is better at GM is that we usually know how to play. Except fo the one trick ponys which i despite. Espacially mercy mains are basically SR leechers. Oh btw: https://www.overbuff.com/players/psn/Dark-Cloud666?mode=competitive Always better than no healer if you ask me Look at that Zenyatta tho. take time or take aurums (Gò»#-_-)Gò»~~~GòºGòÉGòº [FSTNM SCDNM] #PortDust514
CommanderBolt Dead Man's Game Preatoriani 4273	Posted - 2017.07.03 16:52:00 - [47] - Quote Summed up it pretty much speaks volumes. Dust was competitive but never stopped being about fun first. At least there were many fools like me who used odd stuff because it was our fun go to "thing". (for me forge gun frontline work and plc scouting, always enjoyed that even when RR`s and CR`s were the hot flavour of the month) Too many games now are all trying to cash in on the DOTA / LOL competitive esports scene. While I like some bits of that scene I find the overall game industry push to make everything an ESPORT is taking the fun out of games and turning them all into jobs. Blehh but then I grew up in the 90`s with Sega and Snes so times have changed i guess. This is the turning point, the rising of the tide. No fear inside
Michael Arck 6358	Posted - 2017.07.04 07:15:00 - [48] - Quote The problem? Bringing a Dust merc to a kid's birthday party. They use bats to break pinatas, not mass drivers. Seriously, Ive had fun moments in OW but since summer started its been bad over there. So now Im just hauling cargo in Elite because I am a console peasant. You hear that, CCP?! I rather be dropping a nanohive!! Archistrategos / The 7th Prime / Selah *Where the fear has gone there will be nothing....only I will remain
Verasictorus Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 2	Posted - 2017.07.04 15:43:00 - [49] - Quote it's because overwatch players are ******* stupid. tbh it's that simple


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