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Moorian Flav 664	Posted - 2017.06.01 14:44:00 - [1] - Quote Pokey Dravon wrote: Well to clarify, as far as I know there is only one Logi. I had a feeling this was the road we were going down when Rattati first said he did not want to make four of everything. It sounds like Nova will be like the beginning days of DUST where there was only 1 Scout (Gal), 1 Logi (Min), 1 Assault (Cal), and 1 Sentinel (Amarr). I don't troll; I tell the truth. I'm also known as "The ANTI-Propaganda Machine".
Moorian Flav 664	Posted - 2017.06.01 14:50:00 - [2] - Quote Doesn't sound very EVE like to me (unless EVE was limited to 1 Exploration frigate, 1 Logistics frigate, 1 Attack frigate, and 1 Destroyer ). I don't troll; I tell the truth. I'm also known as "The ANTI-Propaganda Machine".
Moorian Flav 667	Posted - 2017.06.01 15:48:00 - [3] - Quote Pokey Dravon wrote: To the best of my understanding, you are correct. All Logis will be the same race. Don't you mean faction? I don't troll; I tell the truth. I'm also known as "The ANTI-Propaganda Machine".
Moorian Flav 670	Posted - 2017.06.01 15:57:00 - [4] - Quote I was just hassling you, Pokey. Everyone got what you were saying. Anyway, coming from DUST, this is kind of a crushing disappointment. CCP definitely seems aimed toward streamlining/simplifying their FPS though for the mainstream though. Ironically, faction is a big factor starting out in EVE as an Alpha clone as it locks you only to the ships of the faction you picked during character creation. That is why it is all the more surprising to me factions have so little focus in Nova. In fact, moving from EVE to Nova or Nova to EVE, I see it really making zero sense to players. That is why with all of the streamlining being done to Nova, I am not even sure why CCP kept it within the EVE universe instead of making it's own standalone title. I don't troll; I tell the truth. I'm also known as "The ANTI-Propaganda Machine".
Moorian Flav 674	Posted - 2017.06.01 17:33:00 - [5] - Quote Derpty Derp wrote: Would be nice to know if maxing out a suit is going to be long term (years with daily/weekly/monthly caps) or if it's more short term (get to your max level for end-game, week/month tops.) To me with the continually streamlined scope (and seemingly less to unlock), Nova sounds like a much shorter term game than what was planned for DUST. Off the info given, my guess would be 2-3 year game lifespan. Only thing that would change that is if there is a killer end game mode to keep players playing for longer. I don't troll; I tell the truth. I'm also known as "The ANTI-Propaganda Machine".
Moorian Flav 675	Posted - 2017.06.01 19:25:00 - [6] - Quote Pokey Dravon wrote: Actually Thaddeus Reynolds wrote up these amazing lore blurbs based off of the lore in EVE that laid out all of the design doctrines for the manufacturers/corps. Rattati already snatched it up and forwarded it to the design team. So less focus on the 4 empires, more focus on the corporations within them, but they're very invested in making it fit the lore of those corporations. I think I am pretty good at bending lore around in-game functionality with some of my suggestions I've made in the past but I do not see how a single Assault suit design or single Assault Rifle model could be explained as the only ones used within an entire universe (EVE). Case in point: The Earth is only one planet and it has how many Assault rifle models? Even if you narrow that number down within the last 10 years, it is still a lot. I don't troll; I tell the truth. I'm also known as "The ANTI-Propaganda Machine".
Moorian Flav 676	Posted - 2017.06.01 22:16:00 - [7] - Quote First off, Pokey, I would like to point out I am not trying to be a jerk/troll and start stuff here. I am just giving my thoughts about Nova although my perspective in all honesty is filtered from my experience in both DUST and EVE. If you take DUST and EVE out of the equation, the little I've heard about Nova sounds like it might be pretty solid. I am just confused as at Fanfest it was said Nova was moved to Iceland to be more EVE like but am not seeing the likeness between Nova and EVE besides Insurance and Nova sharing some of EVE's NPC corporations. With all that said, I will back off on this thread so I can see where it goes instead of seemingly just adding bumps in the road. I don't troll; I tell the truth. I'm also known as "The ANTI-Propaganda Machine".
Moorian Flav 681	Posted - 2017.06.02 18:39:00 - [8] - Quote IDK. Since posting last, I did some serious thinking to wrap my head around all the info provided about Nova so far without any context to EVE or DUST. After doing so, I realized what I ended up with sounded like another game I played before. The game had in game class leveling for what you're playing, ability to easily switch between classes, weapon customization, in game weapon leveling, and had Factions you can pledge allegiance to where you can earn Reputation to buy Faction specific gear. Someone please tell me I am horribly off base here as I shan't even say the game's name I am referring to. *EDIT: I thought of one more similarity; it's PVP is 6v6 like the Nova demo at Fanfest 2016. I don't troll; I tell the truth. I'm also known as "The ANTI-Propaganda Machine".
Moorian Flav 681	Posted - 2017.06.02 18:51:00 - [9] - Quote Pokey Dravon wrote: If you're trying to compare it to ******...not even close. Dang it, Pokey! You gone and said it. I originally said the game name myself in my original post but before I knew it, I had a long rant about that* game. BTW, I know you say both games are not even close but am I incorrect with the parallels provided? I don't troll; I tell the truth. I'm also known as "The ANTI-Propaganda Machine".
Moorian Flav 681	Posted - 2017.06.02 19:08:00 - [10] - Quote Valid point, Pokey. I also admit the parallels I provided were very broad. All being fair, a couple of those parallels could apply to DUST as well. As said, I am not trying to start anything; I just referenced what came to mind putting the Nova info together without any context to EVE or DUST. I don't troll; I tell the truth. I'm also known as "The ANTI-Propaganda Machine".

Moorian Flav 682	Posted - 2017.06.02 19:24:00 - [11] - Quote Pokey Dravon wrote: And honestly ....is that always a bad thing? Even OK games have some great elements. Absolutely nothing wrong with picking up good ideas from various games, combining them, improving them, and making a new title. No, unless you hated that type of design (or the affiliated game). Really, it is hard to judge such things without just seeing it for yourself. Still, I wonder if Nova will end up being too different for me coming from where I have. I am just one person though that obviously does not really adhere to the mainstream. For example, I have never played WoT as I just have no interest as I prefer infantry combat or mixed. I don't troll; I tell the truth. I'm also known as "The ANTI-Propaganda Machine".
Moorian Flav 683	Posted - 2017.06.07 16:15:00 - [12] - Quote DiablosMajora wrote: Ultimately, I think this thread can be boiled down to thus: Theorycrafting is all well and good but you'll never get a true feel for the idea unless it's been thoroughly tested ;D Yeah. I think I may be done theorizing until I see a trailer. After all, Rattati does seem to have a charted course he is on. After all, he has rarely ever steered us wrong (except for maybe the whole super jumping fiasco ). I don't troll; I tell the truth. I'm also known as "The ANTI-Propaganda Machine".
Moorian Flav 685	Posted - 2017.06.07 16:51:00 - [13] - Quote Pokey Dravon wrote: But I still got you all to have a good discussion about it which is great feedback "Good" and "great" are subjective. JK, Pokey. Even though this thread may have went off the rails a few times, it was better than just discussing other games while waiting for Nova. I don't troll; I tell the truth. I'm also known as "The ANTI-Propaganda Machine".
Moorian Flav 690	Posted - 2017.06.08 15:21:00 - [14] - Quote @ Pokey Where's this updated compiled list from Rattati you referred to in past posts? Come on, man. Do your job. I'm doing mine. In all seriousness, discussion has seemed to stagnate again recently so it would be good to have something/anything new to comment about. I don't troll; I tell the truth. I'm also known as "The ANTI-Propaganda Machine".
Moorian Flav 690	Posted - 2017.06.08 17:18:00 - [15] - Quote "Internal review"? You sure you're not a CCP employee, Pokey? Well, I am sure a lot are waiting to see it. BTW, thinking over our discussion in this thread, I really missed a chance to use a phrase that just came to mind. To help end out this thread, I am going to use it now. DUSTiny. I don't troll; I tell the truth. I'm also known as "The ANTI-Propaganda Machine".

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