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Maken Tosch wrote:

xxwhitedevilxx M wrote:

Alena Asakura wrote:

Regis Blackbird wrote:

Very exited to hear your info Kevall!
The second Nova becomes more than a closet project I will buy a monster PC to play it

That's a good point. Will it actually NEED a monster PC to play it, or will we have real options (like EvE does) to allow us to dial down the graphics so we don't have hardware based lag? There will always be network lag - that's a given with any online FPS and that is affected by the speed of your connection and distance to the servers. But if we can optimise for response, why would we need a monster PC?

I believe that's not going to happen anyway. Even when there is not the mythical "console that makes PC games worse" (theory that, if you ask me, has no real reasoning behind it) developers still have to face a "sad" truth. It's obvious: not everyone has a shiny new 1080 or a 1070 nor they plan to upgrade in the medium term and for sure not because of a single free to play game set in Eve universe. If a developer wants to attract as many people as they can get, they have to think about less performing machines, even more so considering a free to play title where the magnitude of players really make or break a game. So, well, it's not impossible at all that Nova will have a very wide range of graphics settings from basically ****** to Ultra.

More than the technical side, I'm very concerned about cheating. I already know I'll miss Dust for that.

Cheating is inevitable. Even Blizzard has a near-impossible time combating cheaters especially those who happen to be in South Korea where the market for competitive games promote massive amounts of cheating at practically shameful levels.

*looks at Overwatch*

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XxBlazikenxX WarRavens Imperium Eden 5645	Posted - 2017.04.08 02:16:00 - [31] - Quote byte modal wrote: Wait. Wait wait wait. Seems that one word is continually overlooked. On the surface of... Like... On the surface? Outer hull? Space? Am I misreading this? Nope he definetely played on the surface of it. I was also confuzzled as to what this meant, but now I clearly see he means ON THE SURFACE of the Maelstrom. And apparently with an active skybox as well, now we could read into that as perhaps there was a space battle going on while he was fighting on the surface of the ship, or maybe there was an active sun etc etc And you get a like! And you get a like! And you, and you, and you!
lamo guys Corrosive Synergy 544	Posted - 2017.04.08 02:48:00 - [32] - Quote Now this is getting interesting! When in doubt pull the forge out!! But we are all dead so who cares!
PARKOUR PRACTIONER Eternal Beings 4719	Posted - 2017.04.08 05:13:00 - [33] - Quote XxBlazikenxX wrote: This was all said by Dennie Fleetfoot aka Kevall Longstride who is currently in Iceland at Fanfest. - Hilmar and many of the other devs are stoked for Nova - CCP Rouge said it was a no brainer to move Nova to Reykjavik. The Shanghai team nailed the moment to moment gunplay, but to make it more like EVE what better place than the same building that EVE is made in. - According to Rouge, Shanghai didn't lose Nova, rather Reykjavik won a prize - CCP Rouge has been talking to a lot of press who all want to know about Nova, it's apparently all they want to know about - He played on the surface Maelstrom ship, which for those of you who don't know EVE is a Battleship class vessal - The ship had low textures but the map design was there, all that was left is to make to more pretty - The map really set the scale for the ship, saying that 1400 mm cannons were "huge", now he wouldn't say exactly how huge, but he just said they were HUGE - The skybox was active, how exactly he couldn't say - All the weapon textures were there and he said they looked just like the demo from last year, in other words, awesome - Unlike last year he got to try out both Nova Knives and the Plasma Cannon, and when asked about Nova Knives he said they were animated much better - Gameplay and fighting was very smooth - FPS stayed at 60 consistently and was, and I quote, "buttery smooth" AND MOST IMPORTANTLY - He commented that it FELT LIKE DUST Credit to Dennie Fleetfoot aka Kevall Longstride, he's the real MVP All this was said by him directly in the Dust 514 discord channel screams internally Hats off to Dennie. PSN SilentChaozz Autistic with extreme chronic pain. Hey, it's a rare one!
Sequal's Back Dead Man's Game Preatoriani 2381	Posted - 2017.04.08 09:02:00 - [34] - Quote Hey Kevall, did the game felt "almost finished" ? You got us all pretty excited now, we need to know MOAR ! "I hope we don't have vehicles [in Nova] simply so we don't have to deal with the people who drive them." -Ripley Riley
Lady MDK Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 510	Posted - 2017.04.08 11:16:00 - [35] - Quote Was PVE mentioned at all? Anyone getting annoyed by reading of the above post should consider the following. I don't care so neither should you :)
Vrain Matari Mikramurka Shock Troop Minmatar Republic 3220	Posted - 2017.04.08 13:22:00 - [36] - Quote Surface of a Maelstrom(drools): check. Does the airlock open? That would be the reincarnation of Skirmish 1, wide open hull battle followed by cqc interior. Active skybox(dies and is reborn a little): check. Ships? Stars? Asteroids? Things: wtf are 'things', Dennie? 'Things' are not Rattati, or Frame, or devs in general. Things are on the surface of a Maelstrom and trying to board it, trying to defend it? 'Things' sounds drone-like, no? Spending merc fortune like water keeping these clone tumors under control....
Kevall Longstride DUST University 3971	Posted - 2017.04.08 14:42:00 - [37] - Quote Sequal's Back wrote: Hey Kevall, did the game felt "almost finished" ? You got us all pretty excited now, we need to know MOAR ! Without going to specifics, a lot of the feedback from the Demo last year has informed design choices since and caused re-evaluation of things in that demo. It's not almost finished. Not by a long way. But it's apparent very quickly once playing it and chatting to the team and some of the new team members that have joined CCP what direction it's taking. I am happy with that direction and the energy in the new team. CPM 1&2 Member CEO of DUST University
Terry Webber WarRavens Auxiliaries 976	Posted - 2017.04.08 16:27:00 - [38] - Quote Good work, Kevall. I might consider buying a gaming PC based on this information if Project Nova becomes an actual product. Inertial Booster Module Vehicle Installation
Regis Blackbird DUST University 1298	Posted - 2017.04.08 16:53:00 - [39] - Quote Very exited to hear your info Kevall! The second Nova becomes more than a closet project I will buy a monster PC to play it
Regis Blackbird DUST University 1298	Posted - 2017.04.08 16:55:00 - [40] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: Dennie also sat in my chair and played the latest prototype game mode. Apparently it happens on the surface of a Maelstrom. And it's good to hear from you too CCP Rattati

Maken Tosch DUST University 13712	Posted - 2017.04.08 18:39:00 - [41] - Quote XxBlazikenxX wrote: This was all said by Dennie Fleetfoot aka Kevall Longstride who is currently in Iceland at Fanfest. - Hilmar and many of the other devs are stoked for Nova - CCP Rouge said it was a no brainer to move Nova to Reykjavik. The Shanghai team nailed the moment to moment gunplay, but to make it more like EVE what better place than the same building that EVE is made in. - According to Rouge, Shanghai didn't lose Nova, rather Reykjavik won a prize - CCP Rouge has been talking to a lot of press who all want to know about Nova, it's apparently all they want to know about - He played on the surface Maelstrom ship, which for those of you who don't know EVE is a Battleship class vessal - The ship had low textures but the map design was there, all that was left is to make to more pretty - The map really set the scale for the ship, saying that 1400 mm cannons were "huge", now he wouldn't say exactly how huge, but he just said they were HUGE - The skybox was active, how exactly he couldn't say - All the weapon textures were there and he said they looked just like the demo from last year, in other words, awesome - Unlike last year he got to try out both Nova Knives and the Plasma Cannon, and when asked about Nova Knives he said they were animated much better - Gameplay and fighting was very smooth - FPS stayed at 60 consistently and was, and I quote, "buttery smooth" AND MOST IMPORTANTLY - He commented that it FELT LIKE DUST Credit to Dennie Fleetfoot aka Kevall Longstride, he's the real MVP All this was said by him directly in the Dust 514 discord channel Quote: - Unlike last year he got to try out both Nova Knives and the Plasma Cannon, and when asked about Nova Knives he said they were animated much better Quote: got to try out both Nova Knives Quote: NOVA KNIVES <---- 8D Eve Online Invite https://secure.eveonline.com/trial/?invc=ed64524f-15ca-4997-ab92-eaae0af74b7f&action=buddy
Maken Tosch DUST University 13712	Posted - 2017.04.08 18:59:00 - [42] - Quote What about corporations? That's another Eve Online feature that made Dust 514 Eve-like. Eve Online Invite https://secure.eveonline.com/trial/?invc=ed64524f-15ca-4997-ab92-eaae0af74b7f&action=buddy
Kevall Longstride DUST University 3979	Posted - 2017.04.08 19:33:00 - [43] - Quote Corps are still very high on the list. CPM 1&2 Member CEO of DUST University
Alena Asakura Rogue Clones Yulai Federation 1393	Posted - 2017.04.08 20:42:00 - [44] - Quote Regis Blackbird wrote: Very exited to hear your info Kevall! The second Nova becomes more than a closet project I will buy a monster PC to play it That's a good point. Will it actually NEED a monster PC to play it, or will we have real options (like EvE does) to allow us to dial down the graphics so we don't have hardware based lag? There will always be network lag - that's a given with any online FPS and that is affected by the speed of your connection and distance to the servers. But if we can optimise for response, why would we need a monster PC?
xxwhitedevilxx M Maphia Clan Corporation 3935	Posted - 2017.04.08 20:58:00 - [45] - Quote Alena Asakura wrote: Regis Blackbird wrote: Very exited to hear your info Kevall! The second Nova becomes more than a closet project I will buy a monster PC to play it That's a good point. Will it actually NEED a monster PC to play it, or will we have real options (like EvE does) to allow us to dial down the graphics so we don't have hardware based lag? There will always be network lag - that's a given with any online FPS and that is affected by the speed of your connection and distance to the servers. But if we can optimise for response, why would we need a monster PC? I believe that's not going to happen anyway. Even when there is not the mythical "console that makes PC games worse" (theory that, if you ask me, has no real reasoning behind it) developers still have to face a "sad" truth. It's obvious: not everyone has a shiny new 1080 or a 1070 nor they plan to upgrade in the medium term and for sure not because of a single free to play game set in Eve universe. If a developer wants to attract as many people as they can get, they have to think about less performing machines, even more so considering a free to play title where the magnitude of players really make or break a game. So, well, it's not impossible at all that Nova will have a very wide range of graphics settings from basically ****** to Ultra. More than the technical side, I'm very concerned about cheating. I already know I'll miss Dust for that. take time or take aurums (Gò»#-_-)Gò»~~~GòºGòÉGòº [FSTNM SCDNM] #PortDust514
jordy mack WarRavens Imperium Eden 1392	Posted - 2017.04.08 21:16:00 - [46] - Quote Youll miss cheating? Good =ƒÿÿ jk Less QQ more PewPew
Maken Tosch DUST University 13717	Posted - 2017.04.08 21:57:00 - [47] - Quote xxwhitedevilxx M wrote: Alena Asakura wrote: Regis Blackbird wrote: Very exited to hear your info Kevall! The second Nova becomes more than a closet project I will buy a monster PC to play it That's a good point. Will it actually NEED a monster PC to play it, or will we have real options (like EvE does) to allow us to dial down the graphics so we don't have hardware based lag? There will always be network lag - that's a given with any online FPS and that is affected by the speed of your connection and distance to the servers. But if we can optimise for response, why would we need a monster PC? I believe that's not going to happen anyway. Even when there is not the mythical "console that makes PC games worse" (theory that, if you ask me, has no real reasoning behind it) developers still have to face a "sad" truth. It's obvious: not everyone has a shiny new 1080 or a 1070 nor they plan to upgrade in the medium term and for sure not because of a single free to play game set in Eve universe. If a developer wants to attract as many people as they can get, they have to think about less performing machines, even more so considering a free to play title where the magnitude of players really make or break a game. So, well, it's not impossible at all that Nova will have a very wide range of graphics settings from basically ****** to Ultra. More than the technical side, I'm very concerned about cheating. I already know I'll miss Dust for that. Cheating is inevitable. Even Blizzard has a near-impossible time combating cheaters especially those who happen to be in South Korea where the market for competitive games promote massive amounts of cheating at practically shameful levels. looks at Overwatch Eve Online Invite https://secure.eveonline.com/trial/?invc=ed64524f-15ca-4997-ab92-eaae0af74b7f&action=buddy
Terry Webber WarRavens Auxiliaries 979	Posted - 2017.04.08 22:50:00 - [48] - Quote I looked up pictures of the Maelstrom to have some idea of what it looks like. It reminds a lot of sea-faring pirate ships and is basically flat. I can imagine having a lot of enjoyable moments on it. https://www.google.com/search?q=eve+online+maelstrom&safe=strict&client=ms-android-metropcs-us&prmd=vin&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiMjIiX9ZXTAhXC5yYKHR2CB98Q_AUICCgC&biw=360&bih=560#imgrc=At_s-8QLry6EAM: Inertial Booster Module Vehicle Installation
Heimdallr69 Negative-Feedback. 7463	Posted - 2017.04.08 23:01:00 - [49] - Quote jordy mack wrote: Youll miss cheating? Good =ƒÿÿ jk People cheated on dust =ƒñ¦=ƒÿ¦=ƒñªGÇìGÖén+Å
CommanderBolt Dead Man's Game Preatoriani 4257	Posted - 2017.04.08 23:54:00 - [50] - Quote One thing I cant help but notice, throughout twitch chat, forums etc.. is how many people are eager to see and try out NOVA. There is clearly still quite a few people really interested. Come on CCP. Make it awesome! This is the turning point, the rising of the tide. No fear inside

DeadlyAztec11 10086	Posted - 2017.04.09 02:24:00 - [51] - Quote Terry Webber wrote: I looked up pictures of the Maelstrom to have some idea of what it looks like. It reminds a lot of sea-faring pirate ships and is basically flat. I can imagine having a lot of enjoyable moments on it. https://www.google.com/search?q=eve+online+maelstrom&safe=strict&client=ms-android-metropcs-us&prmd=vin&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiMjIiX9ZXTAhXC5yYKHR2CB98Q_AUICCgC&biw=360&bih=560#imgrc=At_s-8QLry6EAM: Your post was the first I ever looked at the first time I came to the forums. I will remember you always. Put your flags up in the sky. And wave them side to side. Show the world where you're from. Show the world we are one.
lamo guys Corrosive Synergy 545	Posted - 2017.04.09 03:11:00 - [52] - Quote Are we to have magnetic boots on? How does a combat rifle work in the vacuum of space? I think a forge gun would do the trick! Maybe? When in doubt pull the forge out!! But we are all dead so who cares!
Sequal's Back Dead Man's Game Preatoriani 2384	Posted - 2017.04.09 09:24:00 - [53] - Quote If the server allocation still works the same way it did on Dust, I hope that CCP will disable the ability to switch regions/servers. This was the #1 reason of lags. If people around the world want to fight together, then provide custom servers dedicated for PC or such. Lock the region for everyone otherwise. "I hope we don't have vehicles [in Nova] simply so we don't have to deal with the people who drive them." -Ripley Riley
Echo 1991 WarRavens Imperium Eden 1328	Posted - 2017.04.09 18:02:00 - [54] - Quote Sequal's Back wrote: If the server allocation still works the same way it did on Dust, I hope that CCP will disable the ability to switch regions/servers. This was the #1 reason of lags. If people around the world want to fight together, then provide custom servers dedicated for PC or such. Lock the region for everyone otherwise. it was bad but the lag was bad in general. If the game is done properly and the servers are good the impact wont be as bad. Change the Ion Pistol Fitting Skill Pls. #PortDust514 'Echo is a dirty hooker' - UnclS2
Alena Asakura Rogue Clones Yulai Federation 1396	Posted - 2017.04.09 19:14:00 - [55] - Quote DeadlyAztec11 wrote: Terry Webber wrote: I looked up pictures of the Maelstrom to have some idea of what it looks like. It reminds a lot of sea-faring pirate ships and is basically flat. I can imagine having a lot of enjoyable moments on it. https://www.google.com/search?q=eve+online+maelstrom&safe=strict&client=ms-android-metropcs-us&prmd=vin&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiMjIiX9ZXTAhXC5yYKHR2CB98Q_AUICCgC&biw=360&bih=560#imgrc=At_s-8QLry6EAM: Your post was the first I ever looked at the first time I came to the forums. I will remember you always. And a Minmatar ship will forever be the one that people think of for CQC battles in space!
Alena Asakura Rogue Clones Yulai Federation 1397	Posted - 2017.04.09 19:22:00 - [56] - Quote Sequal's Back wrote: If the server allocation still works the same way it did on Dust, I hope that CCP will disable the ability to switch regions/servers. This was the #1 reason of lags. If people around the world want to fight together, then provide custom servers dedicated for PC or such. Lock the region for everyone otherwise. The reason the server regions existed in the first place was because of lag. Tying you to the nearest server would ostensibly minimise that lag. The problem with that is that it isolates player groups. It's not a true single shard universe. The good thing about EvE, lag notwithstanding, is that it is single shard and the idea of having everyone in Nova able to go anywhere in New Eden and fight anyone and everyone who is there requires single shard. If we assume that people will still be able to select the battle server they are on, then we would be better off piggybacking off the existing EvE server farm. I'm pretty sure our small numbers won't make much of a difference to the response times of those huge servers.
Bright Cloud Namtar Elite Gallente Federation 1960	Posted - 2017.04.09 23:01:00 - [57] - Quote What? The phrase "it felt like dust" and "runs at 60FPS butterly smooth" does not compute together. Dust main feature was that it started to go down to 60 frames per minute as soon too much stuff happend. Rudimentary Mercs of scrubs and incompetence. You touch my mind, fumbling in Ignorance, incapable of understanding.
Dovallis Martan JenusKoll Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 1550	Posted - 2017.04.10 03:24:00 - [58] - Quote Bright Cloud wrote: What? The phrase "it felt like dust" and "runs at 60FPS butterly smooth" does not compute together. Dust main feature was that it started to go down to 60 frames per minute as soon too much stuff happend. That entirely depended on your connection and your machine. I had a nice connection, and a system that could outpurr a cat. Take care of your systems, and they'll take care of you. Also.... 1400 mm cannons are just 1.4 Meter cannons (you can half stand up inside one of these apparently but then again due to dust scales, they'd be less than half a merc tall). Why the MM measurement when the metric used is out of scale? And.. how is it going to be "more like eve"? Does that mean people will have to carry bank account chunks with them in order to buy or sell gear? Are you going to be able to carry ore and other loot/resources on the character? Traversing to deposit them someplace? I mean it feels like it could be kind of awkward, as the suits are designed to drop fairly quickly. --- this post is not fully brain-filtered, as I am doing this on the side of some research. --- http://youtu.be/dtXupQg77SU Dust to Dust Remember the dream you had before the day you were born.
XxBlazikenxX WarRavens Imperium Eden 5692	Posted - 2017.04.10 03:28:00 - [59] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: xxwhitedevilxx M wrote: Alena Asakura wrote: Regis Blackbird wrote: Very exited to hear your info Kevall! The second Nova becomes more than a closet project I will buy a monster PC to play it That's a good point. Will it actually NEED a monster PC to play it, or will we have real options (like EvE does) to allow us to dial down the graphics so we don't have hardware based lag? There will always be network lag - that's a given with any online FPS and that is affected by the speed of your connection and distance to the servers. But if we can optimise for response, why would we need a monster PC? I believe that's not going to happen anyway. Even when there is not the mythical "console that makes PC games worse" (theory that, if you ask me, has no real reasoning behind it) developers still have to face a "sad" truth. It's obvious: not everyone has a shiny new 1080 or a 1070 nor they plan to upgrade in the medium term and for sure not because of a single free to play game set in Eve universe. If a developer wants to attract as many people as they can get, they have to think about less performing machines, even more so considering a free to play title where the magnitude of players really make or break a game. So, well, it's not impossible at all that Nova will have a very wide range of graphics settings from basically ****** to Ultra. More than the technical side, I'm very concerned about cheating. I already know I'll miss Dust for that. Cheating is inevitable. Even Blizzard has a near-impossible time combating cheaters especially those who happen to be in South Korea where the market for competitive games promote massive amounts of cheating at practically shameful levels. looks at Overwatch Cheating has become much less of an issue in Overwatch with the steps that Blizzard has taken recently. Albeit still exist, but I would make a rough guesstimate that only the amount of cheaters now is 5% of the cheaters six months ago. And you get a like! And you get a like! And you, and you, and you!
XxBlazikenxX WarRavens Imperium Eden 5692	Posted - 2017.04.10 03:29:00 - [60] - Quote Dovallis Martan JenusKoll wrote: Bright Cloud wrote: What? The phrase "it felt like dust" and "runs at 60FPS butterly smooth" does not compute together. Dust main feature was that it started to go down to 60 frames per minute as soon too much stuff happend. That entirely depended on your connection and your machine. I had a nice connection, and a system that could outpurr a cat. Take care of your systems, and they'll take care of you. Also.... 1400 mm cannons are just 1.4 Meter cannons (you can half stand up inside one of these apparently but then again due to dust scales, they'd be less than half a merc tall). Why the MM measurement when the metric used is out of scale? And.. how is it going to be "more like eve"? Does that mean people will have to carry bank account chunks with them in order to buy or sell gear? Are you going to be able to carry ore and other loot/resources on the character? Traversing to deposit them someplace? I mean it feels like it could be kind of awkward, as the suits are designed to drop fairly quickly. --- this post is not fully brain-filtered, as I am doing this on the side of some research. --- Yeah, personally I myself didn't have too much problem with lag in Dust and whenever I did lag it was when I had been playing for 4-5 hours straight. And you get a like! And you get a like! And you, and you, and you!



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