Nice to see your impressions Aeon. Sounds like you got some serious hands on time.
Seems like the learning curve should be pretty intuitive. To be honest I'm not sure how I feel about that. Do you get the impression that the actual game will have more room for learning nuances and tactically dynamic? I would not like to see Nova fall into the trap of one tactic to rule them all.

Yeah, no. The TTK was high enough that you could get into a bad situation and still disengage/have time to react.

ARMA-style instadeaths or GTFO.

ARMA III is actually what I've replaced Dust with for the time being, and it has an extremely difficult yet satisfying learning curve.
I would say it's the Dark Souls of FPS games.

Would you say the TTK was good or bad? I remember in dust that some people got mad at how high the TTK would be. But that might have only been an issue because how hard the controls were to get used to on top of low Frame rates.

Also, was there a lot of side strafing/hopping around to try and dodge fire? Some people disliked that. Personally I loved side strafing and the interesting "dances" two good players would end up having. But if it was super excessive then I can see that as being a problem.

When it comes to TTK people have very different views of it, I'm sure many will be displeased one way or the other.
Personally I'm of the mind that environment should be more useful than Dance Dance Strafing Resolution, particularly in an MMO style Shooter.
The Division has some nice elements for this, with the environment being useful as cover and abilities to "harden" your cover, and counter the cover of your opponent. Tactics can be vital to a battle, even allowing a smaller group to counter a larger group if they can play to strengths. Of course they have a fairly effective tier balance... unlike Dust had. People with low end gear are not running into the high end gear people...

Gameplay: Solid as ****.

You can melee while cloaked, but I'm pretty sure that was a bug.

Well, there's my reasons for not playing this new game. Sounds like the same FOTM nullifying features of commando, cloaked shotgun scout and rail rifle imbalance.

The commando presently has no drawbacks. I don't care what anybody says, IT DOES NOT! It cancels out the assault completely. CCP previously said they were going to can this role.

Cloak shotgun scout is virtually uncounterable 9 out of 10 times in a game that depends on close quarters combat.

The rail rifle, great at ANY EFFING RANGE. Really? Is it still THAT good? Why use anything else? The AR? Lol, why use that any more? No change to that meta.

Under the circumstances of game play these elements absolutely possess a natural advantage. either they need to be arbitrarily limited or game play has to be expanded both in map size and flow of battle as it relates to win mechanics or goals to promote effective adoption of other weapons, suits and support roles.

There is a reason everybody save the few players who have an ounce of self respect use the above features. The rest of us are playing at a disadvantage for not adopting these features.


Looks like the new game isn't trying to better balance these things within the context of game play. The same migration to the few overly effective elements is inevitable. I'd hoped we'd see an end to lopsided gameplay.

Of course it is, CCP didn't build it, they just shoved some Assets into the UE4 Tech Demo

excellent review.

heres a question for you and the CPM. has there been talk about whether or not the CPM will continue going forward? what is your role now, and will there be new elections or will you all remain in place for the time being?

Well, there's my reasons for not playing this new game. Sounds like the same FOTM nullifying features of commando, cloaked shotgun scout and rail rifle imbalance.

The commando presently has no drawbacks. I don't care what anybody says, IT DOES NOT! It cancels out the assault completely. CCP previously said they were going to can this role.

Cloak shotgun scout is virtually uncounterable 9 out of 10 times in a game that depends on close quarters combat.

The rail rifle, great at ANY EFFING RANGE. Really? Is it still THAT good? Why use anything else? The AR? Lol, why use that any more? No change to that meta.

Under the circumstances of game play these elements absolutely possess a natural advantage. either they need to be arbitrarily limited or game play has to be expanded both in map size and flow of battle as it relates to win mechanics or goals to promote effective adoption of other weapons, suits and support roles.

There is a reason everybody save the few players who have an ounce of self respect use the above features. The rest of us are playing at a disadvantage for not adopting these features.


Looks like the new game isn't trying to better balance these things within the context of game play. The same migration to the few overly effective elements is inevitable. I'd hoped we'd see an end to lopsided gameplay.

I second this, ccp NEEDS to focus on making this a good fps before ANYTHING. Balance the guns, balance the classes, balance the equipment and mods, and most importantly fix the strafe, jump, and shooting mechanics.

Great review +1

Would meet the CPM again
Great conversations, lots of possibility talks which I hope make it into a greenlit game

My only sad face point is that more people didn't get to try it

Dis guy knows whats up :D

Side note: Isn't it interesting how everyone that played it loves it and everyone who didn't is all bitter?

Well, there's my reasons for not playing this new game. Sounds like the same FOTM nullifying features of commando, cloaked shotgun scout and rail rifle imbalance.

The commando presently has no drawbacks. I don't care what anybody says, IT DOES NOT! It cancels out the assault completely. CCP previously said they were going to can this role.

Cloak shotgun scout is virtually uncounterable 9 out of 10 times in a game that depends on close quarters combat.

The rail rifle, great at ANY EFFING RANGE. Really? Is it still THAT good? Why use anything else? The AR? Lol, why use that any more? No change to that meta.

Under the circumstances of game play these elements absolutely possess a natural advantage. either they need to be arbitrarily limited or game play has to be expanded both in map size and flow of battle as it relates to win mechanics or goals to promote effective adoption of other weapons, suits and support roles.

There is a reason everybody save the few players who have an ounce of self respect use the above features. The rest of us are playing at a disadvantage for not adopting these features.


Looks like the new game isn't trying to better balance these things within the context of game play. The same migration to the few overly effective elements is inevitable. I'd hoped we'd see an end to lopsided gameplay.

Too much reading, makes tiny brain hurt.

Too much reading, makes tiny brain hurt.