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Himiko Kuronaga Fatal Absolution Bleeding Sun Conglomerate 6362	Posted - 2016.04.22 07:04:00 - [1] - Quote Geometry/Socket engine was garbage and Shanghai is too broke to get a new one. Also means they can completely scrap vehicles. Discuss. This is a positive and endearing message brought to you by Himi.
Lord Vahzz 258	Posted - 2016.04.22 07:09:00 - [2] - Quote Space is cool, so coooOOOoool There is a fine line between not listening and not caring, I like to think i walk that line every day of my life.
Cat Merc Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 19853	Posted - 2016.04.22 07:12:00 - [3] - Quote http://imgur.com/a/Vxgk7 This looks an AWFUL LOT like Project Nova, in terms of the shaders. Easy PC building guide
Himiko Kuronaga Fatal Absolution Bleeding Sun Conglomerate 6363	Posted - 2016.04.22 07:20:00 - [4] - Quote And it looks a lot like Dust 514 in terms of assets. They've had PC builds of Dust that looked and ran better long before it was ever on PS3. Doesn't mean anything. This is a positive and endearing message brought to you by Himi.
Alena Asakura Rogue Clones Yulai Federation 863	Posted - 2016.04.22 07:46:00 - [5] - Quote The very reason I tried Dust back in Beta was because of Walking in Stations - it was going to give us Dust style game play but on EvE stations. I really wasn't interested in Dust as such and to an extent I'm still not. I certainly AM interested in any form of shooter that has aspects of Dust but on stations or ships, like Nova seems to have. I'm reserving my opinion on this until I get to see what it's really like in time, but for the moment, I have to say there's no point for me right now.
Himiko Kuronaga Fatal Absolution Bleeding Sun Conglomerate 6365	Posted - 2016.04.22 07:53:00 - [6] - Quote Social environments are still a cool idea. I don't see it ever happening. This is a positive and endearing message brought to you by Himi.
Sylwester Dziewiecki 535	Posted - 2016.04.22 09:20:00 - [7] - Quote Himiko Kuronaga wrote: Geometry/Socket engine was garbage and Shanghai is too broke to get a new one. Also means they can completely scrap vehicles. Discuss. OMG, you are so 'PS3 perspective' kind of thinking now. Do you think they took Dust engine with entire fleet of bugs, cut it in few places and made project nowa out of it? Really?!? This is Skirmish v1.0
Breakin Stuff Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 12951	Posted - 2016.04.22 09:21:00 - [8] - Quote Sylwester Dziewiecki wrote: Himiko Kuronaga wrote: Geometry/Socket engine was garbage and Shanghai is too broke to get a new one. Also means they can completely scrap vehicles. Discuss. OMG, you are so 'PS3 perspective' kind of thinking now. Do you think they took Dust engine with entire fleet of bugs, cut it in few places and made project nowa out of it? Really?!? he's shitposting to incite people to anger. Just like every post he makes. Yes, I am a Goon. No, I don't care about your spacepolitik.
Himiko Kuronaga Fatal Absolution Bleeding Sun Conglomerate 6365	Posted - 2016.04.22 09:25:00 - [9] - Quote Breakin Stuff wrote: Sylwester Dziewiecki wrote: Himiko Kuronaga wrote: Geometry/Socket engine was garbage and Shanghai is too broke to get a new one. Also means they can completely scrap vehicles. Discuss. OMG, you are so 'PS3 perspective' kind of thinking now. Do you think they took Dust engine with entire fleet of bugs, cut it in few places and made project nowa out of it? Really?!? he's shitposting to incite people to anger. Just like every post he makes. You're a perpetually angry person all of the time so I wouldn't consider you to be a very good judge of that. This is a positive and endearing message brought to you by Himi.
Sylwester Dziewiecki 535	Posted - 2016.04.22 09:26:00 - [10] - Quote Breakin Stuff wrote: Sylwester Dziewiecki wrote: Himiko Kuronaga wrote: Geometry/Socket engine was garbage and Shanghai is too broke to get a new one. Also means they can completely scrap vehicles. Discuss. OMG, you are so 'PS3 perspective' kind of thinking now. Do you think they took Dust engine with entire fleet of bugs, cut it in few places and made project nowa out of it? Really?!? he's shitposting to incite people to anger. Just like every post he makes. Me or Himiko? This is Skirmish v1.0

Breakin Stuff Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 12951	Posted - 2016.04.22 09:28:00 - [11] - Quote Sylwester Dziewiecki wrote: Breakin Stuff wrote: Sylwester Dziewiecki wrote: Himiko Kuronaga wrote: Geometry/Socket engine was garbage and Shanghai is too broke to get a new one. Also means they can completely scrap vehicles. Discuss. OMG, you are so 'PS3 perspective' kind of thinking now. Do you think they took Dust engine with entire fleet of bugs, cut it in few places and made project nowa out of it? Really?!? he's shitposting to incite people to anger. Just like every post he makes. Me or Himiko? Himiko That guy who assumes because I think his logic is flawed and his reasoning utter trash means I'm angry about something. My issue is more a magnetic attraction to obvious falsehood. Yes, I am a Goon. No, I don't care about your spacepolitik.
Himiko Kuronaga Fatal Absolution Bleeding Sun Conglomerate 6365	Posted - 2016.04.22 09:31:00 - [12] - Quote Your issue is that you couldn't accomplish anything in the game so you take your problems out on the forum. When people who are actually decent at the game contradict you, your world collapses. If I were to quote half the foul **** you've said, you would be stripped of your post as CPM in a heartbeat. Also, Shanghai still has no budget. This is a positive and endearing message brought to you by Himi.
Monkey MAC Rough Riders.. 3745	Posted - 2016.04.22 09:36:00 - [13] - Quote Sylwester Dziewiecki wrote: Himiko Kuronaga wrote: Geometry/Socket engine was garbage and Shanghai is too broke to get a new one. Also means they can completely scrap vehicles. Discuss. OMG, you are so 'PS3 perspective' kind of thinking now. Do you think they took Dust engine with entire fleet of bugs, cut it in few places and made project nowa out of it? Really?!? No just moved across DUST assets into the UE4 engine and use the per-built components from the Engine. They call me the Monkey - I like to jump off sh** and piss RE's all over your tank! Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior Lvl 3
Sylwester Dziewiecki 535	Posted - 2016.04.22 09:38:00 - [14] - Quote Breakin Stuff wrote: Sylwester Dziewiecki wrote: Breakin Stuff wrote: Sylwester Dziewiecki wrote: Himiko Kuronaga wrote: Geometry/Socket engine was garbage and Shanghai is too broke to get a new one. Also means they can completely scrap vehicles. Discuss. OMG, you are so 'PS3 perspective' kind of thinking now. Do you think they took Dust engine with entire fleet of bugs, cut it in few places and made project nowa out of it? Really?!? he's shitposting to incite people to anger. Just like every post he makes. Me or Himiko? Himiko That guy who assumes because I think his logic is flawed and his reasoning utter trash means I'm angry about something. My issue is more a magnetic attraction to obvious falsehood. I understand. I think there can be plenty more people with feelings like his. So, instead of responding to all of them individually someone in charge should create his own pinned-topic explaining widely and objectively the nature of Project Nova, information we have so far on ir, so people hunger for knowledge that comes on forum to get some decent quality of information would not be disappointed with it, and they would already puts a cross on whatever CCP is planing to develop out of new game. This is Skirmish v1.0
Breakin Stuff Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 12951	Posted - 2016.04.22 09:38:00 - [15] - Quote Himiko Kuronaga wrote: Your issue is that you couldn't accomplish anything in the game so you take your problems out on the forum. When people who are actually decent at the game contradict you, your world collapses. If I were to quote half the foul **** you've said, you would be stripped of your post as CPM in a heartbeat. Also, Shanghai still has no budget. If you were to quote half the foul sh*t I've said, everyone might get a good laugh and a stroll down memory lane. But you can continue to strike wildly with your ad hominem! Go forth and godspeed. But you know, if you have any proof of what you say, beyond the obvious supposition and commentary calculated to make people angry, I'm all ears. Do cite your sources please. We're all looking forward to seeing how you have gleaned these secrets and learned to read the minds of people who are probably thousands of miles away from you. Yes, I am a Goon. No, I don't care about your spacepolitik.
Sylwester Dziewiecki 535	Posted - 2016.04.22 09:42:00 - [16] - Quote Monkey MAC wrote: Sylwester Dziewiecki wrote: Himiko Kuronaga wrote: Geometry/Socket engine was garbage and Shanghai is too broke to get a new one. Also means they can completely scrap vehicles. Discuss. OMG, you are so 'PS3 perspective' kind of thinking now. Do you think they took Dust engine with entire fleet of bugs, cut it in few places and made project nowa out of it? Really?!? No just moved across DUST assets into the UE4 engine and use the per-built components from the Engine. That was theoretical question. This is Skirmish v1.0
Himiko Kuronaga Fatal Absolution Bleeding Sun Conglomerate 6365	Posted - 2016.04.22 09:47:00 - [17] - Quote Breakin Stuff wrote: Himiko Kuronaga wrote: Your issue is that you couldn't accomplish anything in the game so you take your problems out on the forum. When people who are actually decent at the game contradict you, your world collapses. If I were to quote half the foul **** you've said, you would be stripped of your post as CPM in a heartbeat. Also, Shanghai still has no budget. If you were to quote half the foul sh*t I've said, everyone might get a good laugh and a stroll down memory lane. But you can continue to strike wildly with your ad hominem! Go forth and godspeed. But you know, if you have any proof of what you say, beyond the obvious supposition and commentary calculated to make people angry, I'm all ears. Do cite your sources please. We're all looking forward to seeing how you have gleaned these secrets and learned to read the minds of people who are probably thousands of miles away from you. Ahhh, so you wish for me to cite my sources while at the same time throwing people under the bus. Yea, no. Also, Shanghai still has no budget. This is a positive and endearing message brought to you by Himi.
Kaughst Nyain San 837	Posted - 2016.04.22 09:55:00 - [18] - Quote Sylwester Dziewiecki wrote: Himiko Kuronaga wrote: Geometry/Socket engine was garbage and Shanghai is too broke to get a new one. Also means they can completely scrap vehicles. Discuss. OMG, you are so 'PS3 perspective' kind of thinking now. Do you think they took Dust engine with entire fleet of bugs, cut it in few places and made project nowa out of it? Really?!? According to the Destructoid article they actually tried to achieve that with Legion. UE4 will have it's own bugs but it will look pretty :D. "Remember: no matter the circumstances, there will always be people willing to push you down a hole."
Himiko Kuronaga Fatal Absolution Bleeding Sun Conglomerate 6365	Posted - 2016.04.22 09:56:00 - [19] - Quote Kaughst wrote: Sylwester Dziewiecki wrote: Himiko Kuronaga wrote: Geometry/Socket engine was garbage and Shanghai is too broke to get a new one. Also means they can completely scrap vehicles. Discuss. OMG, you are so 'PS3 perspective' kind of thinking now. Do you think they took Dust engine with entire fleet of bugs, cut it in few places and made project nowa out of it? Really?!? According to the Destructoid article they actually tried to achieve that with Legion. UE4 will have it's own bugs but it will look pretty :D. Oh, it definitely looks pretty. No doubt of that. This is a positive and endearing message brought to you by Himi.
Breakin Stuff Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 12952	Posted - 2016.04.22 10:06:00 - [20] - Quote Himiko Kuronaga wrote: Ahhh, so you wish for me to cite my sources while at the same time throwing people under the bus. Yea, no. Also, Shanghai still has no budget. For a long time "Future Dust/Legion" development has been going on the R&D budget, which is entirely seperate from Shanghai's operating expenses. Dust itself has been running quite separately, which is why there was a rush to bring back up the profitability to pre-FF14 levels from garbage features like the warbarge (which was castrated from its original design in order to just be a p2w farm). Which is why Gunjack was also an important gambit to the team, to establish credibility within the company. Ultimately though.... Shanghai still has no budget. Hilmar really doesn't care. EVE Devs don't care. Shanghai stands alone. This post alone is enough to tell me you don't have anyone you could throw under the bus. These "facts" are straight up asspulls. nice work. Yes, I am a Goon. No, I don't care about your spacepolitik.

Himiko Kuronaga Fatal Absolution Bleeding Sun Conglomerate 6365	Posted - 2016.04.22 10:11:00 - [21] - Quote Hardly. You know everything I've said is correct and you're just trying to get some names. That you would continue to bait this is fairly sad on your end. Especially since you don't even owe this company anything. Does doing that give you some kind of sense of special purpose, I wonder? Elected to represent the people, does everything in his power to knowingly blind them to the truth. Sad indeed. This is a positive and endearing message brought to you by Himi.
Breakin Stuff Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 12952	Posted - 2016.04.22 10:14:00 - [22] - Quote Himiko Kuronaga wrote: Hardly. You know everything I've said is correct and you're just trying to get some names. That you would continue to bait this is fairly sad on your end. Especially since you don't even owe this company anything. Does doing that give you some kind of sense of special purpose, I wonder? Nice try, numbnuts, you're not going to bait me or rile me into sharing NDA materiel to prove you wrong. The tricks you use on the other junior high school gifted and talented students need to be upgraded a lot before it'll work here. Yes, I am a Goon. No, I don't care about your spacepolitik.
Himiko Kuronaga Fatal Absolution Bleeding Sun Conglomerate 6365	Posted - 2016.04.22 10:15:00 - [23] - Quote Breakin Stuff wrote: Himiko Kuronaga wrote: Hardly. You know everything I've said is correct and you're just trying to get some names. That you would continue to bait this is fairly sad on your end. Especially since you don't even owe this company anything. Does doing that give you some kind of sense of special purpose, I wonder? Nice try, numbnuts, you're not going to bait me or rile me into sharing NDA materiel to prove you wrong. The tricks you use on the other junior high school gifted and talented students need to be upgraded a lot before it'll work here. Careful there, young man. You already insulted me by calling me autistic once. Is that really how a CPM member should behave? This is a positive and endearing message brought to you by Himi.
Breakin Stuff Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 12952	Posted - 2016.04.22 10:25:00 - [24] - Quote Himiko Kuronaga wrote: Breakin Stuff wrote: Himiko Kuronaga wrote: Hardly. You know everything I've said is correct and you're just trying to get some names. That you would continue to bait this is fairly sad on your end. Especially since you don't even owe this company anything. Does doing that give you some kind of sense of special purpose, I wonder? Nice try, numbnuts, you're not going to bait me or rile me into sharing NDA materiel to prove you wrong. The tricks you use on the other junior high school gifted and talented students need to be upgraded a lot before it'll work here. Careful there, young man. You already insulted me by calling me autistic once. Is that really how a CPM member should behave? When called for? Absolutely! gnight himiko, enjoy spergin' Yes, I am a Goon. No, I don't care about your spacepolitik.
Himiko Kuronaga Fatal Absolution Bleeding Sun Conglomerate 6365	Posted - 2016.04.22 10:29:00 - [25] - Quote Your surrender has been accepted. Good night. This is a positive and endearing message brought to you by Himi.
JDEZ09 ISRAELITE SCHOOL of UNIVERSAL PRACTICAL KNOWLEDGE 219	Posted - 2016.04.22 10:40:00 - [26] - Quote That wasn't a surrender, that was a checkmate. But it needs not any further discussion. Let the thread die in the abyss that is Dust 514 forum threads.
Himiko Kuronaga Fatal Absolution Bleeding Sun Conglomerate 6365	Posted - 2016.04.22 10:52:00 - [27] - Quote If he checkmated anyone it was himself when he stooped to the level of calling a person autistic on his primary CPM account. And then, rather than apologizing, doubled down on it and claimed it was appropriate for a CPM to behave in that manner. It would be incredibly easy for me to write a simple email and get him ejected right now. There is also the fact that nothing I have said is incorrect. It's pissing him off because he can't reveal anything to disprove it, and even if he could it would only cause harm to himself. The best thing he thought he could do is fish out some names and get revenge in that manner, but that didn't work either. He also knows he can't keep a lid on his anger, so he has wisely decided to head off of that account for now. The first smart thing he's done all night. This is a positive and endearing message brought to you by Himi.
Takahiro Kashuken Red Star. 4704	Posted - 2016.04.22 12:28:00 - [28] - Quote Himiko Kuronaga wrote: Geometry/Socket engine was garbage and Shanghai is too broke to get a new one. Also means they can completely scrap vehicles. Discuss. Very plausible. Vehicles continued to get worse as time went on and with each nerf were made useless, vehicles from 4+ years ago would hammer what we had now. Community was just as stupid and continued to have basic problems with vehicles in such a nerfed state so having any kind of vehicle presence in Nova would most likely cause the same amount of problems again and you cannot fix stupid. So with vehicles gone it also means no need for AV such as the completely broken swarm launcher which they could never get right, can't say i will miss never miss homing AV nades which rewarded lack of aim. With no vehicles it means smaller maps, most likely indoor maps as we have seen in the videos but as you said no socket BS which caused massive amounts of lag. So we end up with COD in space: Nova edition. CCP Rattati - "One giant vehicle nerf with more power to AV", you have got to be kidding...''
Himiko Kuronaga Fatal Absolution Bleeding Sun Conglomerate 6366	Posted - 2016.04.22 12:50:00 - [29] - Quote Yep! That's my theory, anyhow. I imagine some vehicle models will be used for scripted, map-specific events more than anything. If they got really creative you might see Titanfall levels of background interaction with dropships and the like, but I doubt we will ever see players in control of them again. CCP struggled incredibly hard with vehicle balance and when it comes right down to it, half the playerbase was pissed off at any given time. Rattati's comments about getting away from planets could just mean he wants to see more EVE influence, but somehow I doubt it. The land generation in the game was really quite terrible and had all manner of issues (quicksand, janky hills you get stuck in, clipping problems with buildings, etc). I believe they would pretty much have to scrap that system and get something new or it would be a new generation of the same old complaints. And that system was a pretty big deal to develop the first time around from what I recall. It never even realized its full potential as being completely randomly generated either. At the moment I doubt they have the resources to fund building an entirely new system for that so they are likely going to just use sculpted terrain for smaller maps. Which means vehicles in all likelihood just wouldn't work anymore. If that turns out to be the case we will likely hear something akin to "This is how things are for now but we plan to change things later", but then nothing will ever change naturally. This is a positive and endearing message brought to you by Himi.
Fanfest2014 Attendee Y0UTHINASIA 207	Posted - 2016.04.22 13:17:00 - [30] - Quote Himiko Kuronaga wrote: If he checkmated anyone it was himself when he stooped to the level of calling a person autistic on his primary CPM account. And then, rather than apologizing, doubled down on it and claimed it was appropriate for a CPM to behave in that manner. It would be incredibly easy for me to write a simple email and get him ejected right now. Prior to being elected Breakin was foulmouthed and routinely said such things. CCP reviews a candidate's posting history and ejects CPM hopefuls who are deemed too toxic. And yet here Breakin sits. CCP does not care. Your threats are empty.



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