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Himiko Kuronaga
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Posted - 2016.04.22 07:04:00 -
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Geometry/Socket engine was garbage and Shanghai is too broke to get a new one.
Also means they can completely scrap vehicles.
Discuss.
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Himiko Kuronaga
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Posted - 2016.04.22 07:20:00 -
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And it looks a lot like Dust 514 in terms of assets.
They've had PC builds of Dust that looked and ran better long before it was ever on PS3. Doesn't mean anything.
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Himiko Kuronaga
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Posted - 2016.04.22 07:53:00 -
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Social environments are still a cool idea.
I don't see it ever happening.
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Himiko Kuronaga
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Posted - 2016.04.22 09:25:00 -
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Breakin Stuff wrote:Sylwester Dziewiecki wrote:Himiko Kuronaga wrote:Geometry/Socket engine was garbage and Shanghai is too broke to get a new one.
Also means they can completely scrap vehicles.
Discuss. OMG, you are so 'PS3 perspective' kind of thinking now. Do you think they took Dust engine with entire fleet of bugs, cut it in few places and made project nowa out of it? Really?!? he's shitposting to incite people to anger. Just like every post he makes.
You're a perpetually angry person all of the time so I wouldn't consider you to be a very good judge of that.
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Himiko Kuronaga
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Posted - 2016.04.22 09:31:00 -
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Your issue is that you couldn't accomplish anything in the game so you take your problems out on the forum.
When people who are actually decent at the game contradict you, your world collapses. If I were to quote half the foul **** you've said, you would be stripped of your post as CPM in a heartbeat.
Also, Shanghai still has no budget.
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Himiko Kuronaga
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Posted - 2016.04.22 09:47:00 -
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Breakin Stuff wrote:Himiko Kuronaga wrote:Your issue is that you couldn't accomplish anything in the game so you take your problems out on the forum.
When people who are actually decent at the game contradict you, your world collapses. If I were to quote half the foul **** you've said, you would be stripped of your post as CPM in a heartbeat.
Also, Shanghai still has no budget. If you were to quote half the foul sh*t I've said, everyone might get a good laugh and a stroll down memory lane. But you can continue to strike wildly with your ad hominem! Go forth and godspeed. But you know, if you have any proof of what you say, beyond the obvious supposition and commentary calculated to make people angry, I'm all ears. Do cite your sources please. We're all looking forward to seeing how you have gleaned these secrets and learned to read the minds of people who are probably thousands of miles away from you.
Ahhh, so you wish for me to cite my sources while at the same time throwing people under the bus.
Yea, no.
Also, Shanghai still has no budget.
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Himiko Kuronaga
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Posted - 2016.04.22 09:56:00 -
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Kaughst wrote:Sylwester Dziewiecki wrote:Himiko Kuronaga wrote:Geometry/Socket engine was garbage and Shanghai is too broke to get a new one.
Also means they can completely scrap vehicles.
Discuss. OMG, you are so 'PS3 perspective' kind of thinking now. Do you think they took Dust engine with entire fleet of bugs, cut it in few places and made project nowa out of it? Really?!? According to the Destructoid article they actually tried to achieve that with Legion. UE4 will have it's own bugs but it will look pretty :D.
Oh, it definitely looks pretty. No doubt of that.
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Himiko Kuronaga
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Posted - 2016.04.22 10:11:00 -
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Hardly. You know everything I've said is correct and you're just trying to get some names.
That you would continue to bait this is fairly sad on your end. Especially since you don't even owe this company anything.
Does doing that give you some kind of sense of special purpose, I wonder?
Elected to represent the people, does everything in his power to knowingly blind them to the truth.
Sad indeed.
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Himiko Kuronaga
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Posted - 2016.04.22 10:15:00 -
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Breakin Stuff wrote:Himiko Kuronaga wrote:Hardly. You know everything I've said is correct and you're just trying to get some names.
That you would continue to bait this is fairly sad on your end. Especially since you don't even owe this company anything.
Does doing that give you some kind of sense of special purpose, I wonder? Nice try, numbnuts, you're not going to bait me or rile me into sharing NDA materiel to prove you wrong. The tricks you use on the other junior high school gifted and talented students need to be upgraded a lot before it'll work here.
Careful there, young man. You already insulted me by calling me autistic once.
Is that really how a CPM member should behave? 
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Himiko Kuronaga
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Posted - 2016.04.22 10:29:00 -
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Your surrender has been accepted.
Good night.
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Himiko Kuronaga
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Posted - 2016.04.22 10:52:00 -
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If he checkmated anyone it was himself when he stooped to the level of calling a person autistic on his primary CPM account. And then, rather than apologizing, doubled down on it and claimed it was appropriate for a CPM to behave in that manner. It would be incredibly easy for me to write a simple email and get him ejected right now.
There is also the fact that nothing I have said is incorrect. It's pissing him off because he can't reveal anything to disprove it, and even if he could it would only cause harm to himself. The best thing he thought he could do is fish out some names and get revenge in that manner, but that didn't work either. He also knows he can't keep a lid on his anger, so he has wisely decided to head off of that account for now.
The first smart thing he's done all night.
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Himiko Kuronaga
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Posted - 2016.04.22 12:50:00 -
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Yep! That's my theory, anyhow. I imagine some vehicle models will be used for scripted, map-specific events more than anything.
If they got really creative you might see Titanfall levels of background interaction with dropships and the like, but I doubt we will ever see players in control of them again. CCP struggled incredibly hard with vehicle balance and when it comes right down to it, half the playerbase was pissed off at any given time.
Rattati's comments about getting away from planets could just mean he wants to see more EVE influence, but somehow I doubt it. The land generation in the game was really quite terrible and had all manner of issues (quicksand, janky hills you get stuck in, clipping problems with buildings, etc).
I believe they would pretty much have to scrap that system and get something new or it would be a new generation of the same old complaints. And that system was a pretty big deal to develop the first time around from what I recall. It never even realized its full potential as being completely randomly generated either.
At the moment I doubt they have the resources to fund building an entirely new system for that so they are likely going to just use sculpted terrain for smaller maps. Which means vehicles in all likelihood just wouldn't work anymore. If that turns out to be the case we will likely hear something akin to "This is how things are for now but we plan to change things later", but then nothing will ever change naturally.
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Himiko Kuronaga
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2016.04.22 13:28:00 -
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Fanfest2014 Attendee wrote:Himiko Kuronaga wrote:If he checkmated anyone it was himself when he stooped to the level of calling a person autistic on his primary CPM account. And then, rather than apologizing, doubled down on it and claimed it was appropriate for a CPM to behave in that manner. It would be incredibly easy for me to write a simple email and get him ejected right now. Prior to being elected Breakin was foulmouthed and routinely said such things. CCP reviews a candidate's posting history and ejects CPM hopefuls who are deemed too toxic. And yet here Breakin sits. CCP does not care. Your threats are empty.
Only the immediate history. Breakin did his best to clean up his image a few months before running. In fact, a lot of people did. It was pretty hilarious to watch and I regularly criticized my own people for doing it.
Politics. What CCP doesn't care to do is dig through the post history of someone who's been around forever. They will do the bare minimum of what is required to state that they reasonably did their job. If a complaint comes up about exceedingly offensive behavior, not to mention potential bullying of an "autistic" individual, well.... can't let that reflect on their company, now can they?
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Himiko Kuronaga
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Posted - 2016.04.22 13:49:00 -
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Fanfest2014 Attendee wrote:Himiko Kuronaga wrote:Only the immediate history. Breakin did his best to clean up his image a few months before running. In fact, a lot of people did. It was pretty hilarious to watch and I regularly criticized my own people for doing it. Then quit going on about it and do it. I doubt your claims. If Breakin isn't removed from CPM by end of May we will know you are impotent and routinely make false claims. If he is removed then you will have finally successfully cited something. Either way, I win.
1. That's not the way you use the word cited. It doesn't hinge on his removal.
2. You have no way of proving any of my claims are false, therefore you have no way of knowing anything.
3. I never said I would get him removed. I said that I can. He was smart enough to back off, so I'm keeping my finger off the trigger. But if he puts me in the right mood...
4. I'm not sure exactly what grounds are necessary for you to "win", anyway. Hard to tell. You have a goal of some sort? Is it a game? I'm not even sure who you are or what you have to do with anything at all. SA troll perhaps? Seems the most likely sort of affiliate. Does anyone know if Remedial is still fat? It's been so long.
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Himiko Kuronaga
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Posted - 2016.04.22 14:14:00 -
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You got it. Shot taken.
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Himiko Kuronaga
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Posted - 2016.04.22 14:31:00 -
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See, the issue I personally have is that CCP has a longstanding history of saying "we will start with this, and then it will be expanded". I feel they have no real development focus and things consistently get scrapped mid-production.
So things get part halfway out there and abandoned, then revisited years later but never to the extent that it was originally supposed to be done. Ambulation, atmospheric flight, modular POS, COSMOS, player-owned deadspace pockets, so on and so fourth...
So when CCP says something like this? I don't believe them. They have never in their history ever finished something that was half-released. Why start believing now?
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Himiko Kuronaga
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Posted - 2016.04.22 14:55:00 -
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Ambulation actually WAS a deal breaker for me, honestly. Then they dragged it out, saying they would revisit it later... and kept saying it for years until finally a quote in an art book of all things said there was no chance of it ever coming back. Dust was as close as we got, and we know how that's turned out so far. That one example tells you a lot about how much denial CCP goes through with feature abandonment.
Whats funny is they keep scaling back, scaling back, scaling back... eventually the hope is that it becomes something else entirely and people just forget the original vision. I'm sorry, but I can't. It's not what I got into this for.
They claimed they would put this game on PC so it could achieve more than what it was originally doing.
Tell me Mobius, how do you achieve more when your stated goal is to achieve less? You can't just remake Dust as an arena shooter and expect it to work as a battlefield-style game down the road. It simply doesn't work, and they know it. But saying it makes people feel better about the future, I guess...
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