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PARKOUR PRACTIONER wrote:

Shaun Iwairo wrote:

Monkey MAC wrote:

To be fair phoniex isn't going to be around for a long time. They said they have enough to show at fanfest.

But you and I know that means there will be maybe a tech demo and some promotional material followed by some presentation on the under lying mechanics like how new weapon creation and modifying will be streamlined, which they will promise us will mean more weapons will be available, when they never will.

By the time phoniex is in a "playable" state the PS4 will be on its last legs and PS5 will be prepping to hit the shelves.

Further more the engine will likely be outdated before they finish development and the amount of technical debt they will have to pay to keep up with the major FPS studios will be phenomenal.

Stay with your console, I won't think any less of you for it.

(In by best David Attenborough voice)

And here we see the Salty S**tposter in its natural habitat. While it's cousin the Goodposter is know for qualifying its speculative statements with an "I think" or "IMO", the Salty S**tposter considers itself far too intelligent for such follies. Pushing on with word after word of wild speculation, it is seemingly unaware that other members of the Poster species can hear its sub-textual cries of "CCP must cater to meeeeeeeeee"

Attenborough is best, tho i may be missing the point.

They call me the Monkey - I like to jump off sh** and piss RE's all over your tank!

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TheD1CK Dead Man's Game Preatoriani 3	Posted - 2016.02.16 11:58:00 - [1] - Quote So I get back from vacation to see a sign on my Merc Quarters entrance *Rent overdue, eviction on 30/5/16 The question is.. where will I go ?? As a gamer I prefer the simplicity of console peasantry, in terms of games FPS, RPG and any PVP are my first choice. When CCP began their quest onto console they offered everything I was after with Dust514 even with the amount of gear undelivered, the sandbox they wanted has been here for 3 years, we may not have made the best use of it, but there was FUN... Now... To follow CCP, not only must I go further from my roots of casual console gaming, I must evolve into a filthy PC Gaming neckbeard and yet again it will be in the hopes of their vision becoming a reality in the gaming industry.... Will it ever ?? The main the that made CCP and Dust514 stand out to me was the multi platform interaction, this was always the highlight of Dust514's potential. Having it all on PC sounds nice I am fully aware that a LOT more of the features we have craved would be easier to introduce this way, less cost and work to run it effectively although losing the WOW factor from Multi-Platform. On the day the end was announced.. DMG members were special guests to a 3 hour swearing rant from yours truly I have foolishly hoped you would see the light and follow the dark side with console and PS So what do the left over general population think ?? Have CCP made the right move choosing PC over Console?? In terms of development I'd say have to say yes, in terms of further expanding a unique gaming experience.. No. Pub chat "DeadMansGame" Squads, rage, trolls, Qsyncs, CARNAGE.. and stuff.
TheD1CK Dead Man's Game Preatoriani 3	Posted - 2016.02.16 12:05:00 - [2] - Quote Fanfest had better be impressive I am sure many like myself want to support CCP, but being totally honest we do not trust you And after all.. why would we ?? it's starting to seem like CCP will just follow trends and try to keep up... Multi-Platform FPS > VR Flying > What's next ?? Good riddance to PS3, but you will need to have some work done if Dusters are to consider PC gaming. Pub chat "DeadMansGame" Squads, rage, trolls, Qsyncs, CARNAGE.. and stuff.
jordy mack WarRavens Imperium Eden 1	Posted - 2016.02.16 12:13:00 - [3] - Quote bring on the future! for every jaded console fanboi we lose, we will most likely gain an intellegent human. win/win :) Less QQ more PewPew
The KTM Duke Dead Man's Game 1	Posted - 2016.02.16 12:31:00 - [4] - Quote That rant was so powefull... I don't want to make you love me. They are deployng, i feel the lag xx Bring fights not QQ
TheD1CK Dead Man's Game Preatoriani 3	Posted - 2016.02.16 12:38:00 - [5] - Quote The KTM Duke wrote: That rant was so powefull... Yeah, If only I was allowed post the uncensored version Notice how my forum post makes no sense ^^ (again) It's quite tough to hide a blue in the face hate speech under a few vague questions Pub chat "DeadMansGame" Squads, rage, trolls, Qsyncs, CARNAGE.. and stuff.
Monkey MAC Rough Riders.. 3	Posted - 2016.02.16 12:39:00 - [6] - Quote To be fair phoniex isn't going to be around for a long time. They said they have enough to show at fanfest. But you and I know that means there will be maybe a tech demo and some promotional material followed by some presentation on the under lying mechanics like how new weapon creation and modifying will be streamlined, which they will promise us will mean more weapons will be available, when they never will. By the time phoniex is in a "playable" state the PS4 will be on its last legs and PS5 will be prepping to hit the shelves. Further more the engine will likely be outdated before they finish development and the amount of technical debt they will have to pay to keep up with the major FPS studios will be phenomenal. Stay with your console, I won't think any less of you for it. They call me the Monkey - I like to jump off sh** and piss RE's all over your tank! Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior Lvl 3
Asad Thahab-Jabal Incorruptibles 519	Posted - 2016.02.16 13:41:00 - [7] - Quote TheD1CK wrote: So what do the left over general population think? I can't speak for everyone but I am pretty excited. DUST won't die on PS3! That's some good news. TheD1CK wrote: Have CCP made the right move choosing PC over Console? They made the decision that made the most sense for them. PC is faster/easier to develop for and reaches a much larger audience; agile development cycles allows a small team to do more with less, while a larger audience offers more revenue. Higher profits for the game = more staff working on the DUST (PC) in the future. Plus, and this should not be underestimated, CCP's home turf is on PC. It's the platform they know best so they will perform better there. It may not have made sense for you personally, but CCP did what was right for the game in the long run. TheD1CK wrote: you will need to have some work done if Dusters are to consider PC gaming. It is no longer prohibitively expensive to own both a console and a gaming PC so don't pretend that all these DUST players are devote console purists. You would be surprised just how many already own a gaming PC. You would be even more surprised to know how many are considering purchasing one in the near future. This divide between PC and console gaming is silly. You can do both. Only twats think you must choose a side. #PortDust514
TheD1CK Dead Man's Game Preatoriani 3	Posted - 2016.02.16 13:47:00 - [8] - Quote I agree, it's the right call for them. That won't make it my ideal option Following CCP further into the abyss with EVE:Dust will be decided SOONtm Pub chat "DeadMansGame" Squads, rage, trolls, Qsyncs, CARNAGE.. and stuff.
Mobius Wyvern Fatal Absolution Bleeding Sun Conglomerate 7	Posted - 2016.02.16 13:50:00 - [9] - Quote TheD1CK wrote: Fanfest had better be impressive I am sure many like myself want to support CCP, but being totally honest we do not trust you And after all.. why would we ?? it's starting to seem like CCP will just follow trends and try to keep up... Multi-Platform FPS > VR Flying > What's next ?? Good riddance to PS3, but you will need to have some work done if Dusters are to consider PC gaming. I'm with you there. I hope they aren't intending to launch another match-based lobby-shooter with minimal integration into EVE Online. If this results in a proper MMOFPS in New Eden, I'll be disappointed at the migration but happy with the end result. If it's the same old junk with prettier visuals like Project Legion was going to be... Hell, I'm not sure what I'll do, but it'll probably involve a lot of shouting and profanity. Amidst the blue skies A link from past to future The sheltering wings of the protector
maybe deadcatz Serris Inc 2	Posted - 2016.02.16 14:20:00 - [10] - Quote PC isnt a platform. Its the master race. We the console peasants,in order to form a more perfect mockery of the master race......jk. CCP gonna CCP. Ha!You can't kill me! I'm already dead!

TheD1CK Dead Man's Game Preatoriani 3	Posted - 2016.02.16 15:10:00 - [11] - Quote Mobius Wyvern wrote: Hell, I'm not sure what I'll do, but it'll probably involve a lot of shouting and profanity. Wise words indeed. Pub chat "DeadMansGame" Squads, rage, trolls, Qsyncs, CARNAGE.. and stuff.
SHERIFF joe arapio 0ther.Haven 533	Posted - 2016.02.16 15:39:00 - [12] - Quote I feel like I always catch an STD whenever I read the D!cks post. "The Wrath of God is Immense. His Justice is Swift and Decisive. His Tolerance is Limited."
Asad Thahab-Jabal Incorruptibles 519	Posted - 2016.02.16 15:54:00 - [13] - Quote TheD1CK wrote: Mobius Wyvern wrote: Hell, I'm not sure what I'll do, but it'll probably involve a lot of shouting and profanity. Wise words indeed. Because if it is one thing we have learned: shouting and profanity really spur CCP into action /s #PortDust514
TheD1CK Dead Man's Game Preatoriani 3	Posted - 2016.02.16 17:39:00 - [14] - Quote Asad Thahab-Jabal wrote: TheD1CK wrote: Mobius Wyvern wrote: Hell, I'm not sure what I'll do, but it'll probably involve a lot of shouting and profanity. Wise words indeed. Because if it is one thing we have learned: shouting and profanity really spur CCP into action /s Really?? What I learned is that they will go against the core of their own game to add fancy additions, waste resources, ignore feedback from a majority while taking on the opinions of few and still come back expecting positive interaction with "community" A word thrown about a lot by players and CCP, not that either ever did very much to maintain one At least by ranting I show I care, I gave up trying to speak to CCP years ago Pub chat "DeadMansGame" Squads, rage, trolls, Qsyncs, CARNAGE.. and stuff.
Bremen van Equis Incorruptibles 931	Posted - 2016.02.16 17:43:00 - [15] - Quote TheD1CK wrote: So I get back from vacation to see a sign on my Merc Quarters entrance *Rent overdue, eviction on 30/5/16 Why did you steal Pyrex's gag? You make me sad. Buckle up, boysGÇªthis ramp leads to space. -Axe Cop
TheD1CK Dead Man's Game Preatoriani 3	Posted - 2016.02.16 17:47:00 - [16] - Quote Bremen van Equis wrote: TheD1CK wrote: So I get back from vacation to see a sign on my Merc Quarters entrance *Rent overdue, eviction on 30/5/16 Why did you steal Pyrex's gag? You make me sad. You assume I pay attention to Pyrex Nice guy and all, but I've managed to care enough to watch 2 of his videos ever If I want cheery British humour, I'll mail Denchlad, If I want to see Dust gameplay, I'll play Dust Pub chat "DeadMansGame" Squads, rage, trolls, Qsyncs, CARNAGE.. and stuff.
SHERIFF joe arapio 0ther.Haven 534	Posted - 2016.02.16 17:48:00 - [17] - Quote Bremen van Equis wrote: TheD1CK wrote: So I get back from vacation to see a sign on my Merc Quarters entrance *Rent overdue, eviction on 30/5/16 Why did you steal Pyrex's gag? You make me sad. Pyrex is a nub. He's so wishy washy. One day dust is great the next he can't wait fir to die. "The Wrath of God is Immense. His Justice is Swift and Decisive. His Tolerance is Limited."
Asad Thahab-Jabal Incorruptibles 521	Posted - 2016.02.16 17:55:00 - [18] - Quote TheD1CK wrote: What I learned is that they will go against the core of their own game to add fancy additions, waste resources, ignore feedback from a majority while taking on the opinions of few and still come back expecting positive interaction with "community" The majority doesn't necessarily know what is right. For example, if the entire forum community was calling for an HMG nerf, but CCP can see based on their data that the HMG does not need a nerf. Should the HMG get a nerf just because the majority is demanding it? No. That is game design by democrazy and it is ***** stupid TheD1CK wrote:** At least by ranting I show I care, I gave up trying to speak to CCP years ago #PortDust514 engaged in non-shitposting, respectful dialogue and it apparently helped CCP Rattati make a case for talking to us about DUST's future. He told us himself that is was very helpful and he appreciated the efforts of Pokey, Cat, and the rest. So quit shitposting and being a cuntscab; use that "caring" to do something positive #PortDust514
TheD1CK Dead Man's Game Preatoriani 3	Posted - 2016.02.16 23:28:00 - [19] - Quote Asad Thahab-Jabal wrote: TheD1CK wrote: What I learned is that they will go against the core of their own game to add fancy additions, waste resources, ignore feedback from a majority while taking on the opinions of few and still come back expecting positive interaction with "community" The majority doesn't necessarily know what is right. For example, if the entire forum community was calling for an HMG nerf, but CCP can see based on their data that the HMG does not need a nerf. Should the HMG get a nerf just because the majority is demanding it? No. That is game design by democrazy and it is ***** stupid TheD1CK wrote:** At least by ranting I show I care, I gave up trying to speak to CCP years ago #PortDust514 engaged in non-shitposting, respectful dialogue and it apparently helped CCP Rattati make a case for talking to us about DUST's future. He told us himself that is was very helpful and he appreciated the efforts of Pokey, Cat, and the rest. So quit ranting and being a cuntscab; use that "caring" to do something positive sigh Months in lockup for posts like these ^^ now I have to reply to one.... It has not been a one time occurrence that they have followed the wrong feedback, and as for the feedback of the majority I can't see how thats a bad thing, for one in stats and further by seeing trends is suit/weapon/equipment etc... Sure it will not always indicate a need for change, but how many blatantly obvious issues have been ignored As for recent feedback, bar the odd biomassed I have tuned into, I and many other Dust players have no idea what CCP are/were thinking So whatever your white knight defense of Cat%Co. is... get off my nuts plz xxx You are always so eager to jump on TheD, Riley? I like you Pub chat "DeadMansGame" Squads, rage, trolls, Qsyncs, CARNAGE.. and stuff.
Asad Thahab-Jabal Incorruptibles 529	Posted - 2016.02.17 00:14:00 - [20] - Quote TheD1CK wrote: It has not been a one time occurrence that they have followed the wrong feedback, and as for the feedback of the majority I can't see how thats a bad thing, for one in stats and further by seeing trends is suit/weapon/equipment etc... Sure it will not always indicate a need for change, but how many blatantly obvious issues have been ignored The playerbase can be leveraged to find out trends and feelings on how something is balanced. That's generally where CPM comes in; they gather the feedback then show it to CCP. CCP also does this on their own time (apparently Rattati has a major problem with looking through Features and Ideas into the early morning hours). But the data trumps anything the forums say. That's just something we have to accept. As for "the wrong feedback", Rattati is a numbers guy. He seems to be strongly biased towards what his metrics tell him and not what the loudest players scream at him. If you can provide him empirical evidence of an unbalanced feature I'm sure he'll look into it. That being said, the man really has his hands bound on the PS3. DUST 514 was built on shoddy code and poor project management and so Rattati pays the price now. Ask the CPM how frustrated Rattati has been with not being able fix X or Y because of DUST's **** code. I am sincerely hoping this fresh start on PC gives CCP Shanghai the chance to do right by DUST. TheD1CK wrote: As for recent feedback, bar the odd biomassed I have tuned into, I and many other Dust players have no idea what CCP are/were thinking Well, the unfortunate truth is that recently CCP hasn't been focusing on DUST. I mean in the last, 4 - 6 months. And why should they? Ask yourself: if you were trying your absolutely hardest to build a new game on PC to be the spiritual successor to a game on a nearly decade old console... would you dedicate many hours to the upkeep of that old console game? I don't know many people who would. It's not logical. The old game is being retired (see: shutdown). Any hours spent on it are effectively a waste of your team's time they could be spending making the new game. TheD1CK wrote:** So whatever your white knight defense of Cat%Co. is... get off my nuts plz xxx You are always so eager to jump on TheD, Riley? I like you If you were just some forum nobody spouting bullshit I wouldn't even bother with these long replies. You aren't though. You have people who look to you for leadership. I would rather go round and round with you, correcting inaccuracies I see in your thought process, and helping you reach informed decisions because you might share this with your corpmates or in-game friends. You and people like you are "community leaders"; we have to be willing to candidly discuss issues with community leaders. Sometimes that means supporting their cause, sometimes that means calling them on their bullshit. #PortDust514

Heimdallr69 Negative-Feedback. 6	Posted - 2016.02.17 00:23:00 - [21] - Quote I have a gaming laptop and desktop..can easily run any game in 4K well not my laptop =ƒñö but I am sad we all know the graphics won't break 1080p yet we'll lose a lot of our friends and community due to them being console players..it's a shame I'd have no issues with dust on consoles..Nintendo/Xbox/ps4. Oh well we'll just have a smaller playerbase
Shaun Iwairo Simple Minded People Pty. Ltd. 542	Posted - 2016.02.17 00:55:00 - [22] - Quote Monkey MAC wrote: To be fair phoniex isn't going to be around for a long time. They said they have enough to show at fanfest. But you and I know that means there will be maybe a tech demo and some promotional material followed by some presentation on the under lying mechanics like how new weapon creation and modifying will be streamlined, which they will promise us will mean more weapons will be available, when they never will. By the time phoniex is in a "playable" state the PS4 will be on its last legs and PS5 will be prepping to hit the shelves. Further more the engine will likely be outdated before they finish development and the amount of technical debt they will have to pay to keep up with the major FPS studios will be phenomenal. Stay with your console, I won't think any less of you for it. (In by best David Attenborough voice) And here we see the Salty Stposter in its natural habitat. While it's cousin the Goodposter is know for qualifying its speculative statements with an "I think" or "IMO", the Salty Stposter considers itself far too intelligent for such follies. Pushing on with word after word of wild speculation, it is seemingly unaware that other members of the Poster species can hear its sub-textual cries of "CCP must cater to meeeeeeeeee" Something is killing new player retention.
PARKOUR PRACTIONER Eternal Beings 4	Posted - 2016.02.17 02:10:00 - [23] - Quote Shaun Iwairo wrote: Monkey MAC wrote: To be fair phoniex isn't going to be around for a long time. They said they have enough to show at fanfest. But you and I know that means there will be maybe a tech demo and some promotional material followed by some presentation on the under lying mechanics like how new weapon creation and modifying will be streamlined, which they will promise us will mean more weapons will be available, when they never will. By the time phoniex is in a "playable" state the PS4 will be on its last legs and PS5 will be prepping to hit the shelves. Further more the engine will likely be outdated before they finish development and the amount of technical debt they will have to pay to keep up with the major FPS studios will be phenomenal. Stay with your console, I won't think any less of you for it. (In by best David Attenborough voice) And here we see the Salty Stposter in its natural habitat. While it's cousin the Goodposter is know for qualifying its speculative statements with an "I think" or "IMO", the Salty Stposter considers itself far too intelligent for such follies. Pushing on with word after word of wild speculation, it is seemingly unaware that other members of the Poster species can hear its sub-textual cries of "CCP must cater to meeeeeeeeee" Attenborough is best, tho i may be missing the point. SilentChaozz on PS4 Your communication skills still suck CCP, praise Ratman & Duke
XxBlazikenxX Kylo's Fist 4	Posted - 2016.02.17 02:32:00 - [24] - Quote I personally believe it was the best choice to go from console to PC. Even if they lose half the playerbase, it doesn't matter, because they will gain tens of thousands more, maybe even hundred of thousands more than we have now. CEO of Kylo's Fist Join us in our quest for all of Molden Heath! #freebenandjerrys
KA24DERT TeamPlayers Negative-Feedback 1	Posted - 2016.02.17 07:39:00 - [25] - Quote Dust on PS3 was a stupid idea to begin with. I can go play a multiplayer match of DooM right now if i wanted to. I could play some Quake. I could play Starcraft. Hell, I could even play some 13 year old game called Eve Online, all because of the long-lived nature of the PC platform. Good luck playing original Halo on Xbox Live. CCP got to where they were by creating a legacy, and legacies can't be created by putting a bunch of effort into a console, never mind a console whose generation was in the twilight years. BAN ADVANCED GEAR FROM PUBS \| Mass Driver Advocate
Heimdallr69 Negative-Feedback. 6	Posted - 2016.02.17 08:05:00 - [26] - Quote KA24DERT wrote: Dust on PS3 was a stupid idea to begin with. I can go play a multiplayer match of DooM right now if i wanted to. I could play some Quake. I could play Starcraft. Hell, I could even play some 13 year old game called Eve Online, all because of the long-lived nature of the PC platform. Good luck playing original Halo on Xbox Live. CCP got to where they were by creating a legacy, and legacies can't be created by putting a bunch of effort into a console, never mind a console whose generation was in the twilight years. You can play the original halo on Xbox one
Monkey MAC Rough Riders.. 3	Posted - 2016.02.17 08:57:00 - [27] - Quote PARKOUR PRACTIONER wrote: Shaun Iwairo wrote: Monkey MAC wrote: To be fair phoniex isn't going to be around for a long time. They said they have enough to show at fanfest. But you and I know that means there will be maybe a tech demo and some promotional material followed by some presentation on the under lying mechanics like how new weapon creation and modifying will be streamlined, which they will promise us will mean more weapons will be available, when they never will. By the time phoniex is in a "playable" state the PS4 will be on its last legs and PS5 will be prepping to hit the shelves. Further more the engine will likely be outdated before they finish development and the amount of technical debt they will have to pay to keep up with the major FPS studios will be phenomenal. Stay with your console, I won't think any less of you for it. (In by best David Attenborough voice) And here we see the Salty Stposter in its natural habitat. While it's cousin the Goodposter is know for qualifying its speculative statements with an "I think" or "IMO", the Salty Stposter considers itself far too intelligent for such follies. Pushing on with word after word of wild speculation, it is seemingly unaware that other members of the Poster species can hear its sub-textual cries of "CCP must cater to meeeeeeeeee" Attenborough is best, tho i may be missing the point. He believes my lack of enthusiasm is thinly veiled attempt at whining. Perhaps I'll try it again in words he can understand. I think phoniex will be sht. IMO it's not gonna be in a playable BETA condition for a good few years, by which time I imagine the Console the OP has will likely be near it's life span. So IMHO the OP doesn't need to PC if he doesn't want to on the account of one game that may never even come to fruition. Though to be honest that actually sounds a lot saltier by comparison to my original. But hey ho, people enjoy trolling right? They call me the Monkey - I like to jump off sh* and piss RE's all over your tank! Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior Lvl 3
Derpty Derp Dead Man's Game 1	Posted - 2016.02.17 09:19:00 - [28] - Quote TheD1CK wrote: If I want cheery British humour, I'll mail Denchlad, If I want to see Dust gameplay, I'll play Dust Ah yes... The dame Judy Denchlad snarcasm is a very acquired taste. But there's only one thing to do... That is to wait. I like to think most of the problems were caused by things they couldn't replace, but those can be fixed from the ground up, which is something they can now do. So assuming they get it right this time... You better be there, ya damn scrubGäó. I just hope it has controller support... I hate the lack of analog movement with keyboard controls... I also haven't used a mouse in ages, but my wacom tablet doesn't work well for first person games!
TheD1CK Dead Man's Game Preatoriani 3	Posted - 2016.02.17 13:42:00 - [29] - Quote KA24DERT wrote: Dust on PS3 was a stupid idea to begin with. I can go play a multiplayer match of DooM right now if i wanted to. I could play some Quake. I could play Starcraft. Hell, I could even play some 13 year old game called Eve Online, all because of the long-lived nature of the PC platform. CCP got to where they were by creating a legacy, and legacies can't be created by putting a bunch of effort into a console, never mind a console whose generation was in the twilight years. (edit: removed a lie) This I can agree with. All the same.. the original concept of console infantry smashing things for PC neckbeards was part of the legacy Even I'm not dumb enough to not see the perks that PC offers CCP in terms of development.. It's not going to change that after 3 years the multiplatform concept is dying, and CCP lose one of the main values they had with FPS:EVE With the amount of master race jackasses replying here already , you can see why console players will think twice FF or CCP bothering to start communicating what's going on will decide if console players stay with FPS:EVE I won't say I'm happy they chose PC, what will they choose next time the code is so buggered they can't fix it ??? But I am concerned what CCP are intending to offer with a rebuilt Dust514 on PC. Pub chat "DeadMansGame" Squads, rage, trolls, Qsyncs, CARNAGE.. and stuff.
Jack McReady DUST University Ivy League 2	Posted - 2016.02.17 14:35:00 - [30] - Quote so instead of unfinished product on console we get unfinished product on PC nothing is going to change with the current "laser focused" devs



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