DUST Search - Angels Fall First, Dust 514, and the future EVE: FPS

Leovarian L Lavitz wrote:

I've been playing in new eden for a while now, and am following forward wherever it goes, so I decided to check out a game with a similar premise as Dust 514 along with very similar gameplay, and I found something very quick.

Angel's Fall first is a very lonely game for someone who comes from Dust 514, even with all of the familiar elements. It is missing the king-maker that dust has, that special aspect that glued so many of us here for so long. That is the social tools dust has, which were inherited from eve. We fought for many of them in the closed beta, and they truly gave dust that true, personable feel, a tangibility that it otherwise wouldn't have had.

Angels fall first is still in early look, and much work will be had, but will the developers focus on the social aspect, such as offering the ability to create chats, voice, mail, in game? The ability to separate yourself from your steam/PSN ID and play as your character, forming friends and rivals we get to know on a level we can't compare elsewhere?

I can't answer that, but I hope that the Future EVE: FPS continues offering the social tools that EVE has because those tools add a depth to the game and social structures for the players to explore, make friends, enemies, and rivals.

Here's for Social tools in the future EVE: FPS!

*Corporations
*Alliances
*Voice Chats
*Custom Chats
*Chat editing and moderation
*EVE-Mail
*Notification
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Perhaps trading, it is a powerful social tool.

What are your thoughts? If you have played Angels Falls First, your thoughts on that too?

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Leovarian L Lavitz Krullefor Organization Minmatar Republic 2	Posted - 2016.02.14 21:25:00 - [1] - Quote I've been playing in new eden for a while now, and am following forward wherever it goes, so I decided to check out a game with a similar premise as Dust 514 along with very similar gameplay, and I found something very quick. Angel's Fall first is a very lonely game for someone who comes from Dust 514, even with all of the familiar elements. It is missing the king-maker that dust has, that special aspect that glued so many of us here for so long. That is the social tools dust has, which were inherited from eve. We fought for many of them in the closed beta, and they truly gave dust that true, personable feel, a tangibility that it otherwise wouldn't have had. Angels fall first is still in early look, and much work will be had, but will the developers focus on the social aspect, such as offering the ability to create chats, voice, mail, in game? The ability to separate yourself from your steam/PSN ID and play as your character, forming friends and rivals we get to know on a level we can't compare elsewhere? I can't answer that, but I hope that the Future EVE: FPS continues offering the social tools that EVE has because those tools add a depth to the game and social structures for the players to explore, make friends, enemies, and rivals. Here's for Social tools in the future EVE: FPS! Corporations Alliances Voice Chats Custom Chats Chat editing and moderation EVE-Mail *Notification +++ Perhaps trading, it is a powerful social tool. What are your thoughts? If you have played Angels Falls First, your thoughts on that too? Youtube: Dust 514 - You should Have Worn Proto PS move player - retired
XxBlazikenxX Kylo's Fist 4	Posted - 2016.02.14 21:36:00 - [2] - Quote I hate how people are like "Angels Fall First is the first game to try to do this" when in fact it was Dust 514 that did it first. CEO of Kylo's Fist Join us in our quest for all of Molden Heath! Basic Frames are useful said no one ever
Cat Merc Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 19	Posted - 2016.02.14 21:41:00 - [3] - Quote XxBlazikenxX wrote: I hate how people are like "Angels Fall First is the first game to try to do this" when in fact it was Dust 514 that did it first. But angels fall first is the first one to try it half competently. Which is amusing considering it's an indie studio, doing it as a sort of hobby. Last time I played it was too choppy, making it vomit inducing, but I saw a lot of potential in it. Easy PC building guide
XxBlazikenxX Kylo's Fist 4	Posted - 2016.02.14 21:43:00 - [4] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: XxBlazikenxX wrote: I hate how people are like "Angels Fall First is the first game to try to do this" when in fact it was Dust 514 that did it first. But angels fall first is the first one to try it half competently. Which is amusing considering it's an indie studio, doing it as a sort of hobby. Last time I played it was too choppy, making it vomit inducing, but I saw a lot of potential in it. I'll admit that it has potential. It will be a great game if they don't make the same mistakes CCP made. But I have no doubt the new EVE: fps will be 10x better. CEO of Kylo's Fist Join us in our quest for all of Molden Heath! Basic Frames are useful said no one ever
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 22	Posted - 2016.02.14 21:49:00 - [5] - Quote XxBlazikenxX wrote: Cat Merc wrote: XxBlazikenxX wrote: I hate how people are like "Angels Fall First is the first game to try to do this" when in fact it was Dust 514 that did it first. But angels fall first is the first one to try it half competently. Which is amusing considering it's an indie studio, doing it as a sort of hobby. Last time I played it was too choppy, making it vomit inducing, but I saw a lot of potential in it. I'll admit that it has potential. It will be a great game if they don't make the same mistakes CCP made. But I have no doubt the new EVE: fps will be 10x better. Yet Dust didn't succeed so it only 'tried'. AFF managed to achieve space combat, boarding, a reasonable vehicle model from my first impressions, and varied and interesting maps. That said it lacks social options, polish graphics, and a compelling back story. Waves that dye the land gold. Blessed breath to nurture life in a land of wheat. A path the Sef descend drawn in ash.
XxBlazikenxX Kylo's Fist 4	Posted - 2016.02.14 22:00:00 - [6] - Quote True Adamance wrote: XxBlazikenxX wrote: Cat Merc wrote: XxBlazikenxX wrote: I hate how people are like "Angels Fall First is the first game to try to do this" when in fact it was Dust 514 that did it first. But angels fall first is the first one to try it half competently. Which is amusing considering it's an indie studio, doing it as a sort of hobby. Last time I played it was too choppy, making it vomit inducing, but I saw a lot of potential in it. I'll admit that it has potential. It will be a great game if they don't make the same mistakes CCP made. But I have no doubt the new EVE: fps will be 10x better. Yet Dust didn't succeed so it only 'tried'. AFF managed to achieve space combat, boarding, a reasonable vehicle model from my first impressions, and varied and interesting maps. That said it lacks social options, polish graphics, and a compelling back story. I never said that Dust succeeded at it. When I said "did it first" I meant it was the first one to try it. CEO of Kylo's Fist Join us in our quest for all of Molden Heath! Basic Frames are useful said no one ever
Operative 1174 Uuali True Companion Planetary Requisitions 1	Posted - 2016.02.15 00:12:00 - [7] - Quote XxBlazikenxX wrote: True Adamance wrote: XxBlazikenxX wrote: Cat Merc wrote: XxBlazikenxX wrote: I hate how people are like "Angels Fall First is the first game to try to do this" when in fact it was Dust 514 that did it first. But angels fall first is the first one to try it half competently. Which is amusing considering it's an indie studio, doing it as a sort of hobby. Last time I played it was too choppy, making it vomit inducing, but I saw a lot of potential in it. I'll admit that it has potential. It will be a great game if they don't make the same mistakes CCP made. But I have no doubt the new EVE: fps will be 10x better. Yet Dust didn't succeed so it only 'tried'. AFF managed to achieve space combat, boarding, a reasonable vehicle model from my first impressions, and varied and interesting maps. That said it lacks social options, polish graphics, and a compelling back story. I never said that Dust succeeded at it. When I said "did it first" I meant it was the first one to try it. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XPFMzskXZvY CCP logic GÇô We fix what doesn't need breaking.
Aero Yassavi Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 11	Posted - 2016.02.15 00:12:00 - [8] - Quote +1 to the little things that aren't directly gameplay related being huge in shaping Dust. Stuff like character names, chat channels, mail system, and more. Praetoriani Classiarii Templares = PIE Inc, Amarr dedicated Corp Channel for AFW Squads & Orbitals: PIE Ground Control
Leovarian L Lavitz Krullefor Organization Minmatar Republic 2	Posted - 2016.02.15 12:48:00 - [9] - Quote XxBlazikenxX wrote: I hate how people are like "Angels Fall First is the first game to try to do this" when in fact it was Dust 514 that did it first. I believe we are all aware that dust 514 is the first, with Angels fall stepping futher into the mold of what the eve FPS is aiming for, while the future EVE FPS should really bring the combined armes tactical multi-theater gameplay to some polish. Plus social features. Youtube: Dust 514 - You should Have Worn Proto PS move player - retired
DRAKEST HOUR 514 to PS4 154	Posted - 2016.02.15 17:54:00 - [10] - Quote Leovarian L Lavitz wrote: XxBlazikenxX wrote: I hate how people are like "Angels Fall First is the first game to try to do this" when in fact it was Dust 514 that did it first. I believe we are all aware that dust 514 is the first, with Angels fall stepping futher into the mold of what the eve FPS is aiming for, while the future EVE FPS should really bring the combined armes tactical multi-theater gameplay to some polish. Plus social features. We can only hope. "A high-powered mutant of some kind never even considered for mass production.Too weird to live, and too rare to die."

G Clone Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 177	Posted - 2016.02.23 00:03:00 - [11] - Quote Leovarian L Lavitz wrote: I've been playing in new eden for a while now, and am following forward wherever it goes, so I decided to check out a game with a similar premise as Dust 514 along with very similar gameplay, and I found something very quick. Angel's Fall first is a very lonely game for someone who comes from Dust 514, even with all of the familiar elements. It is missing the king-maker that dust has, that special aspect that glued so many of us here for so long. That is the social tools dust has, which were inherited from eve. We fought for many of them in the closed beta, and they truly gave dust that true, personable feel, a tangibility that it otherwise wouldn't have had. Angels fall first is still in early look, and much work will be had, but will the developers focus on the social aspect, such as offering the ability to create chats, voice, mail, in game? The ability to separate yourself from your steam/PSN ID and play as your character, forming friends and rivals we get to know on a level we can't compare elsewhere? I can't answer that, but I hope that the Future EVE: FPS continues offering the social tools that EVE has because those tools add a depth to the game and social structures for the players to explore, make friends, enemies, and rivals. Here's for Social tools in the future EVE: FPS! Corporations Alliances Voice Chats Custom Chats Chat editing and moderation EVE-Mail *Notification +++ Perhaps trading, it is a powerful social tool. What are your thoughts? If you have played Angels Falls First, your thoughts on that too? Dude, I might be doing something with Angels Fall First this week - If you have questions about the game you'd like to have answered, throw them at me ASAP!
Talos Vagheitan Ancient Exiles. 2	Posted - 2016.02.23 01:38:00 - [12] - Quote At the "Survivors of Dust" steam group a few of us are playing AFF. We invite everyone to join! AFF is a terrific game, with better graphics and gameplay than Dust, but to be honest, I'm only playing it to tide me over until Dust 2.0 One thing AFF doesn't have is the persistent universe and grand politics of Dust, which is what I play for. You can't really compare AFF to a 4 year old PS3 game fairly, so don't spend so much time trying. Many of the things in AFF probably would have been in Dust if it wasn't for the PS3 Real CPM Platform
Bremen van Equis Incorruptibles 962	Posted - 2016.03.01 16:34:00 - [13] - Quote Looks like the latest patch for AFF is happening this weekend! Check steam discussions...the devs are beginning to sing out about it. Buckle up, boysGÇªthis ramp leads to space. -Axe Cop
Takahiro Kashuken Red Star. 4	Posted - 2016.03.01 20:38:00 - [14] - Quote AFF looks pretty ******* terrible. Like a worse version of PS2 if that is even possible. CCP Rattati - "One giant vehicle nerf with more power to AV", you have got to be kidding...''
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 22	Posted - 2016.03.01 21:33:00 - [15] - Quote Takahiro Kashuken wrote: AFF looks pretty ******* terrible. Like a worse version of PS2 if that is even possible. The graphics are pretty bad but what is really cool is that they have managed to incorporated infantry boarding combat, with dog fighting, warships, and that both affect one another. I mean AFF is essentially an Indie game developed by a small team as opposed to Planetside 2 development team. Waves that dye the land gold. Blessed breath to nurture life in a land of wheat. A path the Sef descend drawn in ash.
Kalante Schiffer Ancient Exiles. 1	Posted - 2016.03.01 21:48:00 - [16] - Quote That game looks very cool. I like how you are able to escape the ship and see it explode.
Takahiro Kashuken Red Star. 4	Posted - 2016.03.02 00:32:00 - [17] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Takahiro Kashuken wrote: AFF looks pretty ******* terrible. Like a worse version of PS2 if that is even possible. The graphics are pretty bad but what is really cool is that they have managed to incorporated infantry boarding combat, with dog fighting, warships, and that both affect one another. I mean AFF is essentially an Indie game developed by a small team as opposed to Planetside 2 development team. But how does it affect me? why should i bother boarding something if it means nothing. The mechanics are there but nothing else is. CCP Rattati - "One giant vehicle nerf with more power to AV", you have got to be kidding...''
Bremen van Equis Incorruptibles 966	Posted - 2016.03.02 01:04:00 - [18] - Quote Takahiro Kashuken wrote: True Adamance wrote: Takahiro Kashuken wrote: AFF looks pretty ******* terrible. Like a worse version of PS2 if that is even possible. The graphics are pretty bad but what is really cool is that they have managed to incorporated infantry boarding combat, with dog fighting, warships, and that both affect one another. I mean AFF is essentially an Indie game developed by a small team as opposed to Planetside 2 development team. But how does it affect me? why should i bother boarding something if it means nothing. The mechanics are there but nothing else is. Go outside. Buckle up, boysGÇªthis ramp leads to space. -Axe Cop
jordy mack WarRavens Imperium Eden 1	Posted - 2016.03.02 01:28:00 - [19] - Quote it is rather lonely, ive only played it with one other person so far, and yes the unreal3 is starting to show it's age. also i'm having a fair bit of trouble killing people with most of the guns. but there's still something about it... i think it could be alot of fun if we could get more people in the same match/server. themashedavenger = steam id o7 Less QQ more PewPew
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 22	Posted - 2016.03.02 01:41:00 - [20] - Quote Takahiro Kashuken wrote: True Adamance wrote: Takahiro Kashuken wrote: AFF looks pretty ***** terrible. Like a worse version of PS2 if that is even possible. The graphics are pretty bad but what is really cool is that they have managed to incorporated infantry boarding combat, with dog fighting, warships, and that both affect one another. I mean AFF is essentially an Indie game developed by a small team as opposed to Planetside 2 development team. But how does it affect me? why should i bother boarding something if it means nothing. The mechanics are there but nothing else is. I'm all for games that include ' actions with meaning' that said it doesn't mean that I cannot enjoy games that feature good mechanics and game play outside of some overarching context. If you want to do something meaningful go produce your own game, write a book, break into the music industry, become a world renown scientist rather than *** about an indie game in early development. Waves that dye the land gold. Blessed breath to nurture life in a land of wheat. A path the Sef descend drawn in ash.

PARKOUR PRACTIONER Eternal Beings 4	Posted - 2016.03.02 08:24:00 - [21] - Quote Someone described DUST as a social media within a FPS? i think. Haven't seen any social aspect within FPS like it since. Makes even a recluse like me WANT to socialize. SilentChaozz on PS4 Autistic Athletic Gamer
Alena Asakura Caldari Logistics Reserve 606	Posted - 2016.03.02 10:53:00 - [22] - Quote Talos Vagheitan wrote: At the "Survivors of Dust" steam group a few of us are playing AFF. We invite everyone to join! AFF is a terrific game, with better graphics and gameplay than Dust, but to be honest, I'm only playing it to tide me over until Dust 2.0 One thing AFF doesn't have is the persistent universe and grand politics of Dust, which is what I play for. You can't really compare AFF to a 4 year old PS3 game fairly, so don't spend so much time trying. Many of the things in AFF probably would have been in Dust if it wasn't for the PS3 This is what people consistently miss about Dust - It's not a FFS as such, which is what most people focus on - it's a FFS in the EvE Universe with persistence and real consequences. You can ignore that all you like, but it doesn't make this simple fact go away.
Alena Asakura Caldari Logistics Reserve 606	Posted - 2016.03.02 10:56:00 - [23] - Quote PARKOUR PRACTIONER wrote: Someone described DUST as a social media within a FPS? i think. Haven't seen any social aspect within FPS like it since. Makes even a recluse like me WANT to socialize. I would actually put it the other way - it's a FPS within social media. The EvE Universe and its social side came first - the FPS was added.
Takahiro Kashuken Red Star. 4	Posted - 2016.03.02 12:42:00 - [24] - Quote Bremen van Equis wrote: Takahiro Kashuken wrote: True Adamance wrote: Takahiro Kashuken wrote: AFF looks pretty ***** terrible. Like a worse version of PS2 if that is even possible. The graphics are pretty bad but what is really cool is that they have managed to incorporated infantry boarding combat, with dog fighting, warships, and that both affect one another. I mean AFF is essentially an Indie game developed by a small team as opposed to Planetside 2 development team. But how does it affect me? why should i bother boarding something if it means nothing. The mechanics are there but nothing else is. Go outside. ** graphics and the gameplay is meh plus i cant find any mods for it. CCP Rattati - "One giant vehicle nerf with more power to AV", you have got to be kidding...''
Takahiro Kashuken Red Star. 4	Posted - 2016.03.02 12:45:00 - [25] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Takahiro Kashuken wrote: True Adamance wrote: Takahiro Kashuken wrote: AFF looks pretty ***** terrible. Like a worse version of PS2 if that is even possible. The graphics are pretty bad but what is really cool is that they have managed to incorporated infantry boarding combat, with dog fighting, warships, and that both affect one another. I mean AFF is essentially an Indie game developed by a small team as opposed to Planetside 2 development team. But how does it affect me? why should i bother boarding something if it means nothing. The mechanics are there but nothing else is. I'm all for games that include ' actions with meaning' that said it doesn't mean that I cannot enjoy games that feature good mechanics and game play outside of some overarching context. If you want to do something meaningful go produce your own game, write a book, break into the music industry, become a world renown scientist rather than *** about an indie game in early development. Never said the mechanics are good, i said they are there. Meaningful in the game, like with dust means to an end in AFF what is it? Why cant ppl seperate game from life? CCP Rattati - "One giant vehicle nerf with more power to AV", you have got to be kidding...''
Aderek Made in Poland... Devil's Descendants 250	Posted - 2016.03.04 05:37:00 - [26] - Quote I have laptop lenovo G50-30 (intel celeron n2830) with 8GB RAM. So, can i run this game on my machine? dust514.pl, wcogram.pl, i-play24.net MM proto logi 80 kk SP and growing
Forever ETC Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 1	Posted - 2016.03.04 05:51:00 - [27] - Quote Aderek wrote: I have laptop lenovo G50-30 (intel celeron n2830) with 8GB RAM. So, can i run this game on my machine? There's a site where you can have your software checked and see whether you meet the minimum/recommend specs for most games. Just Google "can you run it" and search for the game. AmarrFTW "The Hero got his feelings hurt for 9 hp... " Not For Sale- Sanders 2016
Aderek Made in Poland... Devil's Descendants 251	Posted - 2016.03.04 05:57:00 - [28] - Quote Forever ETC wrote: Aderek wrote: I have laptop lenovo G50-30 (intel celeron n2830) with 8GB RAM. So, can i run this game on my machine? There's a site where you can have your software checked and see whether you meet the minimum/recommend specs for most games. Just Google "can you run it" and search for the game. THX Sorry, your computer does not meet the minimum specifications required to run this product. Please review the details below for more information. So, thx again :) dust514.pl, wcogram.pl, i-play24.net MM proto logi 80 kk SP and growing
Jack Boost Zarena Family 1	Posted - 2016.03.04 06:40:00 - [29] - Quote Aderek... look at sites like this http://www.computer-alliance.pl/warszawa/lenovo-t530-core-i7-thinkpad-wydajne-notebooki-z-linii-biznesowej/ This is very cheap used hardware at your country (and still good). I recomended you to build own game rig anyway :D Not much time left...
Aderek Made in Poland... Devil's Descendants 252	Posted - 2016.03.04 18:28:00 - [30] - Quote Jack Boost wrote: Aderek... look at sites like this http://www.computer-alliance.pl/warszawa/lenovo-t530-core-i7-thinkpad-wydajne-notebooki-z-linii-biznesowej/ This is very cheap used hardware at your country (and still good). I recomended you to build own game rig anyway :D Thx i think about it: http://www.computer-alliance.pl/warszawa/lenovo-t420-core-i7-thinkpad-tani-solidny-poleasingowy-laptop/ because i use TV to play ;) dust514.pl, wcogram.pl, i-play24.net MM proto logi 80 kk SP and growing



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