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Summa Militum
The Naughty Ninjas The-Office
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Posted - 2016.02.13 19:41:00 -
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If so many people would stop leaving matches right at the start of battle. The amount of redberries I see quitting matches is ridiculous.
The game is ending so if you are one of the people who keep quitting without even trying to see what you can do in the match then use this last little bit of time we have to HTFU and stop running off like little *******.
Thank you for your time.
Thukker is Love, Thukker is Life
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Soto Gallente
957
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Posted - 2016.02.14 00:12:00 -
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Unfortunately it is just in many people's nature. Don't think you can face them? Don't face them at all.
Ex-news reporter for The Scope
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Shaun Iwairo
Simple Minded People Pty. Ltd.
528
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Posted - 2016.02.14 00:20:00 -
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Yep lets hope Phoenix has a cooldown for excessive match-leaving.
Something is killing new player retention.
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DustPIayer
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
23
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Posted - 2016.02.14 00:43:00 -
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I was leaving battle before it was cool, look at all these posers.. |
Bremen van Equis
Incorruptibles
920
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Posted - 2016.02.14 03:15:00 -
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I've been kicked from battle, dc'd from PSN, etc. a lot lately. They might not be running from your mad skillz voluntarily, Brotato.
Buckle up, boysGǪthis ramp leads to space. -Axe Cop
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Summa Militum
The Naughty Ninjas The-Office
2
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Posted - 2016.02.14 08:41:00 -
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Bremen van Equis wrote:I've been kicked from battle, dc'd from PSN, etc. a lot lately. They might not be running from your mad skillz voluntarily, Brotato.
I know how to distinguish the difference between individual redberries getting dc'd and entire squads simultaneously dropping out of a match.
Thukker is Love, Thukker is Life
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ZED Regent
Acid Tech 303
747
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Posted - 2016.02.14 08:58:00 -
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Last 2,3 months i get dc'd and signed out of psn alot... :(
About the quitters... maybe they would love to have a goodlooking kdr at the end of Dust?
too many goodbye's lately...
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Alena Asakura
Caldari Logistics Reserve
457
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Posted - 2016.02.14 09:20:00 -
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Summa Militum wrote:If so many people would stop leaving matches right at the start of battle. The amount of redberries I see quitting matches is ridiculous.
The game is ending so if you are one of the people who keep quitting without even trying to see what you can do in the match then use this last little bit of time we have to HTFU and stop running off like little *******.
Thank you for your time. I see more blueberries than redberries leaving the match at the start. The result of the unbalanced way matchmaking puts all the squads on the one team, I imagine. When you're an habitual solo as I am, you're always on the team with the dregs against the other team stacked to the gills with squads. It's highly unusual for me to see squads on my team and so it's quite common to be stomped.
People leave the match for a number of reasons. My main one is when I'm dumped into a match that's half over, on the team that's losing. What makes anyone think I'm willing to take over being stomped from someone that's had the wisdom to leave before they've wasted too much of their time and effort?
The other reason I personally leave matches is when it becomes obvious that my team is being stomped and most of them have already left. At this point, of course I can just switch to BPO fits and complete the match, and if I already have a decent WP score I sometimes do that. However if I have just been continually stomped and haven't made really any headway, I have no difficulty whatsoever in denying the stompers the rest of the match stomping me. If I'm not enjoying it, why should I continue to play??
I consider stompers the lowest of the low. Yes, it's CCP's fault that stompers exist in the first place, but people don't have to do it just because they can. |
Alena Asakura
Caldari Logistics Reserve
457
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Posted - 2016.02.14 09:22:00 -
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Shaun Iwairo wrote:Yep lets hope Phoenix has a cooldown for excessive match-leaving. Also let's hope Pheonix has a better means of matching players, if it's still a FPS. For that matter, let's hope it's not a FPS at all, so some more reasonable warfare can happen. |
Alena Asakura
Caldari Logistics Reserve
457
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Posted - 2016.02.14 09:25:00 -
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Summa Militum wrote:Bremen van Equis wrote:I've been kicked from battle, dc'd from PSN, etc. a lot lately. They might not be running from your mad skillz voluntarily, Brotato. I know how to distinguish the difference between individual redberries getting dc'd and entire squads simultaneously dropping out of a match. Yes, it's quite obvious when an entire squad leaves. And it's always right at the start of the match. Is it because they don't like the map, or the players in the other team, perhaps? Whatever the reason, entire SQUADS leave in their numbers at the very start of a match. |
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Alena Asakura
Caldari Logistics Reserve
457
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Posted - 2016.02.14 09:28:00 -
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ZED Regent wrote: Last 2,3 months i get dc'd and signed out of psn alot... :(
About the quitters... maybe they would love to have a goodlooking kdr at the end of Dust?
I can never condone the whole KDR obsession. It leaves me cold. But yes this could be a good reason for it. Me, I'd rather just keep dying again and again, to get the kills that give me the ISK and SP....
But not if I'm being stomped of course. There's no good ISK or SP for the stomped.
The more the stomped leave matches the less kills the stompers get. Sounds like a really good strategy to me. :) |
Count- -Crotchula
TasteTheTamsen
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Posted - 2016.02.14 15:11:00 -
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Summa Militum wrote:If so many people would stop leaving matches right at the start of battle. The amount of redberries I see quitting matches is ridiculous.
The game is ending so if you are one of the people who keep quitting without even trying to see what you can do in the match then use this last little bit of time we have to HTFU and stop running off like little *******.
Thank you for your time.
I don't like it when the matchmaker has worked well and there's a group on each side then I notice 4 people from my side leave, at that moment I most likely will lose because then the match becomes more one-sided then it ever could have been, one-sided matches are mainly the player's fault, the matchmaker can only do so much but most of the time works to put vets together.
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Summa Militum
The Naughty Ninjas The-Office
2
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Posted - 2016.02.14 16:23:00 -
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Alena Asakura wrote:Shaun Iwairo wrote:Yep lets hope Phoenix has a cooldown for excessive match-leaving. Also let's hope Pheonix has a better means of matching players, if it's still a FPS. For that matter, let's hope it's not a FPS at all, so some more reasonable warfare can happen.
I wouldn't play the new game if it weren't FPS.
Thukker is Love, Thukker is Life
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General Vahzz
PIanet Express
584
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Posted - 2016.02.14 16:31:00 -
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I am mentally leaving all the matches now. Every single one. All at once. Because I am hungry.
An addict with a pen.
You come at the king you best not miss
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Llamastar
Chickenhawk.
181
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Posted - 2016.02.15 09:11:00 -
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Here's when I leave a match:
- I'm one of 3 people on a full team anywhere near the objective doing anything. If I look at the spawn in map and I see half the team off in the hills sniping and all that, I'm out. If they're not gonna put their suits on the line, neither am I, they can take their crap point counts and loss themselves. - When the framerate & lag is so bad I can't do anything and die every time I spawn somewhere useful before I can even aim a weapon. ( This is generally in direct proportion to the amount of Gen Tso's Alliance members on field, blue or red... ) - When the majority of the team is in vehicles and doing nothing to actually help the map. A few vehicles can be effective. 8 people in vehicles are not effective. 8 people in vehicles will lose, no question about it. My fav is when you get a map where there's no line of sight from the roads to important stuff ( meat grinder for instance ), but you still get those dudes out in tanks and dropships circling the city. And then you see the killboard and you're like, "Yep, you didn't do a gd thing. Congrats on your 100WP."
Other than that, I'll pretty much give whatever a college try, and even if my team is losing and dying, there's generally ways to skirt the edges, sap installations, and pick your 1v1's in a smart way to come out ahead even though your team is getting it's rear end handed to it.
But in general I say don't worry too much if people are bailing. Everyone has their own reasons, or just gets dc'd for that matter. Play your own game and let the dots on the map play theirs. |
DRAKEST HOUR
514 to PS4
153
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Posted - 2016.02.15 17:05:00 -
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Llamastar wrote:Here's when I leave a match:
- I'm one of 3 people on a full team anywhere near the objective doing anything. If I look at the spawn in map and I see half the team off in the hills sniping and all that, I'm out. If they're not gonna put their suits on the line, neither am I, they can take their crap point counts and loss themselves. - When the framerate & lag is so bad I can't do anything and die every time I spawn somewhere useful before I can even aim a weapon. ( This is generally in direct proportion to the amount of Gen Tso's Alliance members on field, blue or red... ) - When the majority of the team is in vehicles and doing nothing to actually help the map. A few vehicles can be effective. 8 people in vehicles are not effective. 8 people in vehicles will lose, no question about it. My fav is when you get a map where there's no line of sight from the roads to important stuff ( meat grinder for instance ), but you still get those dudes out in tanks and dropships circling the city. And then you see the killboard and you're like, "Yep, you didn't do a gd thing. Congrats on your 100WP."
Other than that, I'll pretty much give whatever a college try, and even if my team is losing and dying, there's generally ways to skirt the edges, sap installations, and pick your 1v1's in a smart way to come out ahead even though your team is getting it's rear end handed to it.
But in general I say don't worry too much if people are bailing. Everyone has their own reasons, or just gets dc'd for that matter. Play your own game and let the dots on the map play theirs.
^this. Assuming that people leave the match because you're just so good at this game that they don't want to fight is just....gross. In fact I bet some of them leave just because they find some player's play style annoying like spawn camping or certain trolls who play to grief other players (shotty aslt, min heavy with knives, you pick any of the many troll fits).
I'm just suggesting that if we didn't want people to leave matches maybe we should have been playing to win matches and not trying to find the next fotm fit to make the opposition rage. *steps off soap box*
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Sergeant Sazu
Mantodea MC
870
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Posted - 2016.02.15 17:27:00 -
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I'm don't care about ISK or KDR. I play the game to have fun. If the fun drops below a certain threshold, I'm not participating.
I don't mind dying or losing. What I do mind is when just 3 people on my team leave and the enemies see the opportunity to pull out their officer suits or blaster Gv.0s. Suddenly the match landslides in my direction and I'm unable to exit the redline without getting shot by 4+ proto assaults. That's not fun.
People are using the end of the game as an excuse to drop any sportsmanship (or continue what they're already doing). I get that they wanna use up all their officer, I'm doing the same, but the fact that they're in an entire squad doing the same thing and not toning it down when they die is causing matches that aren't fun for either side.
So again: there should not in any way be punishments for leaving battle ever. There needs to be a reason to stay that's good enough to outweigh leaving. It would also help to extend the amount of time in the beginning of a match that people can join, so that entire squads/lots of solo players leaving won't doom the battle from the start. Needs to be 2 or so minutes instead of 30ish seconds like it is now.
So I'm not asking poeple to not try; I'm asking you guys to dial it back gear-wise when the match is heavily in your favor. Try a fun fit. Logi your squadmates. Anything that takes some of the weight off when I'm carrying the team. A lot of players forget that video games are about fun and not stockpiling assets or stat padding. This is especially true since we're on a deadline.
Anyway, those are my thoughts. Didn't mean to monologue, but I don't post much and I wanted to put it all out there.
[91.2m SP]
-The Swagmaster Logi-
"Sazu never dies. He just changes form." -Necron Animus
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Bremen van Equis
Incorruptibles
928
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Posted - 2016.02.15 20:49:00 -
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Alena Asakura wrote:Summa Militum wrote:Bremen van Equis wrote:I've been kicked from battle, dc'd from PSN, etc. a lot lately. They might not be running from your mad skillz voluntarily, Brotato. I know how to distinguish the difference between individual redberries getting dc'd and entire squads simultaneously dropping out of a match. Yes, it's quite obvious when an entire squad leaves. And it's always right at the start of the match. Is it because they don't like the map, or the players in the other team, perhaps? Whatever the reason, entire SQUADS leave in their numbers at the very start of a match.
How about: squad enters match...one gets kicked/scottied/whatever, rest of squad immediately leaves so they can try another match together.
Fact is, you really have no idea why anyone leaves. Even those guys that drop right at the end so you can't see their numbers, it could have been an honest DC. Not likely, but possible.
Buckle up, boysGǪthis ramp leads to space. -Axe Cop
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Tacojr2000 Gonzalez
0.P.
5
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Posted - 2016.02.15 20:54:00 -
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Would be nice yes... The fact people think the new dust will be good is hilarious to. RIP dust forever.
" I'm Moist" Tacojr2000
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Alena Asakura
Caldari Logistics Reserve
474
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Posted - 2016.02.15 23:56:00 -
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Summa Militum wrote:Alena Asakura wrote:Shaun Iwairo wrote:Yep lets hope Phoenix has a cooldown for excessive match-leaving. Also let's hope Pheonix has a better means of matching players, if it's still a FPS. For that matter, let's hope it's not a FPS at all, so some more reasonable warfare can happen. I wouldn't play the new game if it weren't FPS. Perhaps the term FPS is misplaced. Yes, of course it will be a FPS, but it doesn't have to be a lobby shooter. In the EvE universe it can be completely fluid with battles starting up spontaneously everywhere and anywhere and people joining and leaving as they like. That's what I was getting at. |
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Alena Asakura
Caldari Logistics Reserve
475
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Posted - 2016.02.15 23:58:00 -
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DRAKEST HOUR wrote:Llamastar wrote:Here's when I leave a match:
- I'm one of 3 people on a full team anywhere near the objective doing anything. If I look at the spawn in map and I see half the team off in the hills sniping and all that, I'm out. If they're not gonna put their suits on the line, neither am I, they can take their crap point counts and loss themselves. - When the framerate & lag is so bad I can't do anything and die every time I spawn somewhere useful before I can even aim a weapon. ( This is generally in direct proportion to the amount of Gen Tso's Alliance members on field, blue or red... ) - When the majority of the team is in vehicles and doing nothing to actually help the map. A few vehicles can be effective. 8 people in vehicles are not effective. 8 people in vehicles will lose, no question about it. My fav is when you get a map where there's no line of sight from the roads to important stuff ( meat grinder for instance ), but you still get those dudes out in tanks and dropships circling the city. And then you see the killboard and you're like, "Yep, you didn't do a gd thing. Congrats on your 100WP."
Other than that, I'll pretty much give whatever a college try, and even if my team is losing and dying, there's generally ways to skirt the edges, sap installations, and pick your 1v1's in a smart way to come out ahead even though your team is getting it's rear end handed to it.
But in general I say don't worry too much if people are bailing. Everyone has their own reasons, or just gets dc'd for that matter. Play your own game and let the dots on the map play theirs. ^this. Assuming that people leave the match because you're just so good at this game that they don't want to fight is just....gross. In fact I bet some of them leave just because they find some player's play style annoying like spawn camping or certain trolls who play to grief other players (shotty aslt, min heavy with knives, you pick any of the many troll fits). I'm just suggesting that if we didn't want people to leave matches maybe we should have been playing to win matches and not trying to find the next fotm fit to make the opposition rage. *steps off soap box* I agree with this. The rewards for winning are nowhere near good enough in pubs. So people don't try to win they just try to pad their kdr. |
SOUTHSIDEPHOENIX PHOENIXmerc
MercenariesOfthePhoenix
0
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Posted - 2016.02.16 03:57:00 -
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Players have always exploited match making for months but now i've been seeing qsync in pub matches vs npc players . They're getting low mu players as squad leads and qsync low mu pubs. There's no way match making can be so ****** that so many high sp proto players would be matched against npc players . High sp players would atleast create their own corp and use advance or basic, But we're seeing 10 or 12 npc players with basic against 10 high sp proto players and more than 6 of the high sp players from the same corp |
XxBlazikenxX
Kylo's Fist
4
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Posted - 2016.02.16 04:04:00 -
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Not just at the start of battles either, but even in the middle. I just had a match where it started 15v16, and ended 4v16, with even all of my squad except myself leaving.
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Alena Asakura
Caldari Logistics Reserve
483
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Posted - 2016.02.16 04:12:00 -
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SOUTHSIDEPHOENIX PHOENIXmerc wrote:Players have always exploited match making for months but now i've been seeing qsync in pub matches vs npc players . They're getting low mu players as squad leads and qsync low mu pubs. There's no way match making can be so ****** that so many high sp proto players would be matched against npc players . High sp players would atleast create their own corp and use advance or basic, But we're seeing 10 or 12 npc players with basic against 10 high sp proto players and more than 6 of the high sp players from the same corp Yes, I'm seeing this also. I typically play in BPOs and I'm not a particularly high scorer, so I expect to be up against basic to advanced players, but I'm just getting one match after another with ck.0, gk.0, mk.0 and ak.0 everything. There seem to be more gk.0 and then ck.0 than the others, but there's definitely all of them represented. Non-proto players don't have a hope.
I've even tried to bring out my State ck.0 scout and assault and Neo ck.0 assault and logi and I just get blown away so I've stopped wasting suits now. The proto players are better than just their skills and their suits - their experience of how to win is what does it for them. |
maybe deadcatz
Serris Inc
2
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Posted - 2016.02.16 04:34:00 -
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Alena Asakura wrote:Summa Militum wrote:Alena Asakura wrote:Shaun Iwairo wrote:Yep lets hope Phoenix has a cooldown for excessive match-leaving. Also let's hope Pheonix has a better means of matching players, if it's still a FPS. For that matter, let's hope it's not a FPS at all, so some more reasonable warfare can happen. I wouldn't play the new game if it weren't FPS. Perhaps the term FPS is misplaced. Yes, of course it will be a FPS, but it doesn't have to be a lobby shooter. In the EvE universe it can be completely fluid with battles starting up spontaneously everywhere and anywhere and people joining and leaving as they like. That's what I was getting at.
That's planetside 2 In a nutshell.
Ha!You can't kill me! I'm already dead!
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Summa Militum
The Naughty Ninjas The-Office
2
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Posted - 2016.02.16 05:20:00 -
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SOUTHSIDEPHOENIX PHOENIXmerc wrote:Players have always exploited match making for months but now i've been seeing qsync in pub matches vs npc players . They're getting low mu players as squad leads and qsync low mu pubs. There's no way match making can be so ****** that so many high sp proto players would be matched against npc players . High sp players would atleast create their own corp and use advance or basic, But we're seeing 10 or 12 npc players with basic against 10 high sp proto players and more than 6 of the high sp players from the same corp
I extracted a bunch of the salt from all the tears I found in the hatemail you sent me earlier and am using it to flavor the popcorn I'm eating right now.
Thukker is Love, Thukker is Life
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SOUTHSIDEPHOENIX PHOENIXmerc
MercenariesOfthePhoenix
2
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Posted - 2016.02.16 06:27:00 -
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This is why i posted this. He complains about empty matches ,but gets low mu matches from having low mu squad leader deploy him into matches. I entered a match 12vs16 with all npc randoms on my side but the top 5 proto stompers all had double digit kills with no more than 2 deaths. Whats really messed up is that he mailed me and admits. Well atleast you know why players leave battle and |
SOUTHSIDEPHOENIX PHOENIXmerc
MercenariesOfthePhoenix
2
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Posted - 2016.02.16 06:30:00 -
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and it's nothing new he's always squaded with low mu squad leads to get easy matches. I hope we don't see any more threads complaining about empty matches |
Summa Militum
The Naughty Ninjas The-Office
2
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Posted - 2016.02.16 07:27:00 -
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SOUTHSIDEPHOENIX PHOENIXmerc wrote:This is why i posted this. He complains about empty matches ,but gets low mu matches from having low mu squad leader deploy him into matches. I entered a match 12vs16 with all npc randoms on my side but the top 5 proto stompers all had double digit kills with no more than 2 deaths. Whats really messed up is that he mailed me and admits it. Well atleast you know why players leave battle and
I explained to you that I had time for 1 quick pub match before I had a PC so I joined a random squad in squad finder so that I could get that quick match.
I also explained to you that your team had good players on it as well but you chose to quit the match before realizing that.
Your team had Cray Cray Fish and my team had me. It wasn't even a brutal stomp. I went 24/3 for my team and Cray Cray Fish went 22/2 for your team.
Save your tears for that unfortunate moment when you fall victim to my 50 and 60 bombs. Dealing with a 20 kill warmup from me is not something to get salty about.
Thukker is Love, Thukker is Life
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Summa Militum
The Naughty Ninjas The-Office
2
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Posted - 2016.02.16 07:41:00 -
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SOUTHSIDEPHOENIX PHOENIXmerc wrote:and it's nothing new he's always squaded with low mu squad leads to get easy matches. I hope we don't see any more threads complaining about empty matches
Here's a match I played earlier against high mu players with about the exact same results performance wise I got in the match you're salty about.
Better Pic http://imgur.com/6WkQrP4
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