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SHERIFF joe arapio 0ther.Haven 482	Posted - 2016.02.11 19:41:00 - [1] - Quote Besides lightening debbie. "The Wrath of God is Immense. His Justice is Swift and Decisive. His Tolerance is Limited."
Llamastar Chickenhawk. 174	Posted - 2016.02.11 19:48:00 - [2] - Quote SHERIFF joe arapio wrote: Besides lightening debbie. Myotards.
Murder Medic Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic 657	Posted - 2016.02.11 19:50:00 - [3] - Quote Team specific redlines Farewell DUST
Baltazar Pontain Blauhelme E.B.O.L.A. 192	Posted - 2016.02.11 19:51:00 - [4] - Quote Pay to win
Asad Thahab-Jabal Incorruptibles 510	Posted - 2016.02.11 20:02:00 - [5] - Quote The current passive jump height bonus from myofibs. Appropriately priced vanity items (lol SKINs) #PortDust514
shaman oga Nexus Balusa Horizon 5	Posted - 2016.02.11 20:07:00 - [6] - Quote Alts Regressed to blueberry level =ƒÿ» #PortDaPort on Consoles
Tebu Gan Capital Acquisitions LLC 1	Posted - 2016.02.11 20:08:00 - [7] - Quote SHERIFF joe arapio wrote: Besides lightening debbie. You
maybe deadcatz Serris Inc 2	Posted - 2016.02.11 20:08:00 - [8] - Quote Ion pistol(just to annoy lightning lol) Ha!You can't kill me! I'm already dead!
Cat Merc Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 19	Posted - 2016.02.11 20:54:00 - [9] - Quote ur mum Easy PC building guide
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 21	Posted - 2016.02.11 20:56:00 - [10] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: ur mum Damn son! Waves that dye the land gold. Blessed breath to nurture life in a land of wheat. A path the Sef descend drawn in ash.

Soto Gallente 908	Posted - 2016.02.11 20:56:00 - [11] - Quote Matchmaking Ex-news reporter for The Scope
Soto Gallente 908	Posted - 2016.02.11 20:57:00 - [12] - Quote shaman oga wrote: Alts Alts are a fact of life, even in EVE: Online. Ex-news reporter for The Scope
Regnier Feros Dead Man's Game Preatoriani 1	Posted - 2016.02.11 21:07:00 - [13] - Quote Pie JK I LIKE PIE
Murder Medic Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic 659	Posted - 2016.02.11 21:07:00 - [14] - Quote Soto Gallente wrote: shaman oga wrote: Alts Alts are a fact of life, even in EVE: Online. I think you mean PARTICULARLY in EVE Online. With PLEX, some people are basically everywhere. Farewell DUST
Soto Gallente 913	Posted - 2016.02.11 21:12:00 - [15] - Quote Murder Medic wrote: Soto Gallente wrote: shaman oga wrote: Alts Alts are a fact of life, even in EVE: Online. I think you mean PARTICULARLY in EVE Online. With PLEX, some people are basically everywhere. No, even in Dust there are so many alts just as in EVE: Online. For example: You fiend Ex-news reporter for The Scope
Murder Medic Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic 663	Posted - 2016.02.11 21:16:00 - [16] - Quote Soto Gallente wrote: Murder Medic wrote: Soto Gallente wrote: shaman oga wrote: Alts Alts are a fact of life, even in EVE: Online. I think you mean PARTICULARLY in EVE Online. With PLEX, some people are basically everywhere. No, even in Dust there are so many alts just as in EVE: Online. For example: You fiend Oh well it's way worse here because CCP took forever to address ISK farming through alts. Many billions were made there I imagine. And then there are plenty of forum alts like myself who must lurk in the shadow of the hammer. Farewell DUST
SHERIFF joe arapio 0ther.Haven 484	Posted - 2016.02.11 21:18:00 - [17] - Quote Murder Medic wrote: Soto Gallente wrote: Murder Medic wrote: Soto Gallente wrote: shaman oga wrote: Alts Alts are a fact of life, even in EVE: Online. I think you mean PARTICULARLY in EVE Online. With PLEX, some people are basically everywhere. No, even in Dust there are so many alts just as in EVE: Online. For example: You fiend Oh well it's way worse here because CCP took forever to address ISK farming through alts. Many billions were made there I imagine. And then there are plenty of forum alts like myself who must lurk in the shadow of the hammer. Me and my 22 alts know that feeling. Rip "The Wrath of God is Immense. His Justice is Swift and Decisive. His Tolerance is Limited."
Soto Gallente 913	Posted - 2016.02.11 21:21:00 - [18] - Quote Murder Medic wrote: Soto Gallente wrote: Murder Medic wrote: Soto Gallente wrote: shaman oga wrote: Alts Alts are a fact of life, even in EVE: Online. I think you mean PARTICULARLY in EVE Online. With PLEX, some people are basically everywhere. No, even in Dust there are so many alts just as in EVE: Online. For example: You fiend Oh well it's way worse here because CCP took forever to address ISK farming through alts. Many billions were made there I imagine. And then there are plenty of forum alts like myself who must lurk in the shadow of the hammer. Lol, I don't lurk in the shadow. I even told Archduke himself who my banned main was and nothing happened. Ex-news reporter for The Scope
Soto Gallente 913	Posted - 2016.02.11 21:21:00 - [19] - Quote SHERIFF joe arapio wrote: Murder Medic wrote: Soto Gallente wrote: Murder Medic wrote: Soto Gallente wrote: Alts are a fact of life, even in EVE: Online. I think you mean PARTICULARLY in EVE Online. With PLEX, some people are basically everywhere. No, even in Dust there are so many alts just as in EVE: Online. For example: You fiend Oh well it's way worse here because CCP took forever to address ISK farming through alts. Many billions were made there I imagine. And then there are plenty of forum alts like myself who must lurk in the shadow of the hammer. Me and my 22 alts know that feeling. Rip inb4 GJR "Only 22?" Ex-news reporter for The Scope
Murder Medic Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic 664	Posted - 2016.02.11 21:33:00 - [20] - Quote Soto Gallente wrote: Lol, I don't lurk in the shadow. I even told Archduke himself who my banned main was and nothing happened. Watch out Farewell DUST

Medical Crash Systematic Engineers Unlimited 502	Posted - 2016.02.11 21:51:00 - [21] - Quote People that don't belong in our server. If you are 50,000 miles away from the most populated server, go away. My YouTube Channel
Megaman Trigger OSG Planetary Operations 1	Posted - 2016.02.12 00:12:00 - [22] - Quote OP, unbalanced gear that can be easily farmed and/or easily traded between players. Campable spawns. Purifier. First Class. Legends never die
Shaun Iwairo Simple Minded People Pty. Ltd. 511	Posted - 2016.02.12 00:26:00 - [23] - Quote 2 players, both running the same dropsuit class and module types, with a ~100% TTK differential. Something is killing new player retention.
Soto Gallente 915	Posted - 2016.02.12 00:53:00 - [24] - Quote Medical Crash wrote: People that don't belong in our server. If you are 50,000 miles away from the most populated server, go away. There is only one server. I disagree with you, everyone should play with everyone, that is the only way to have a fully integrated sandbox where everything you do affects it. Ex-news reporter for The Scope
Living Rock 523 Intara Direct Action Caldari State 86	Posted - 2016.02.12 00:58:00 - [25] - Quote The light speed wiggle dance side step
Soto Gallente 916	Posted - 2016.02.12 01:01:00 - [26] - Quote I don't want round based gameplay in the next game Ex-news reporter for The Scope
Shaun Iwairo Simple Minded People Pty. Ltd. 514	Posted - 2016.02.12 01:02:00 - [27] - Quote Soto Gallente wrote: Medical Crash wrote: People that don't belong in our server. If you are 50,000 miles away from the most populated server, go away. There is only one server. I disagree with you, everyone should play with everyone, that is the only way to have a fully integrated sandbox where everything you do affects it. Goddamn this is an interesting point that I don't think has been brought up yet. I think most people agree that Phoenix should operate in more of a sandbox mode rather than a lobby mode, but in an FPS a ping of 100+ is near unplayable. Having two players from different parts of the world roaming around on the same planet is awesome and all but if they get into a firefight with each other one of them will likely be at a big disadvantage. How do you consolidate the two? Won't someone think of the Australians?! Something is killing new player retention.
Murder Medic Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic 668	Posted - 2016.02.12 01:05:00 - [28] - Quote Soto Gallente wrote: I don't want round based gameplay in the next game Good luck with that one. It's important to have lobbies for people to just hop into. Instead of taking away other peoples fun, you should hope for a null sec planet to fight over or something like that, where it's just combat 24/7 Farewell DUST
Soto Gallente 916	Posted - 2016.02.12 01:05:00 - [29] - Quote Shaun Iwairo wrote: Soto Gallente wrote: Medical Crash wrote: People that don't belong in our server. If you are 50,000 miles away from the most populated server, go away. There is only one server. I disagree with you, everyone should play with everyone, that is the only way to have a fully integrated sandbox where everything you do affects it. Goddamn this is an interesting point that I don't think has been brought up yet. I think most people agree that Phoenix should operate in more of a sandbox mode rather than a lobby mode, but in an FPS a ping of 100+ is near unplayable. Having two players from different parts of the world roaming around on the same planet is awesome and all but if they get into a firefight with each other one of them will likely be at a big disadvantage. How do you consolidate the two? Won't someone think of the Australians?! Well they do it in EVE: Online don't they? They have people from dozens upon dozens of countries all playing the game on one giant server. Ex-news reporter for The Scope
Soto Gallente 916	Posted - 2016.02.12 01:06:00 - [30] - Quote Murder Medic wrote: Soto Gallente wrote: I don't want round based gameplay in the next game Good luck with that one. It's important to have lobbies for people to just hop into. Instead of taking away other peoples fun, you should hope for a null sec planet to fight over or something like that, where it's just combat 24/7 I don't think Phoenix should be a game as much as it is a "space sim". That's right, I'm talking cities, battlefields, titan boarding parties, the like Ex-news reporter for The Scope

Shaun Iwairo Simple Minded People Pty. Ltd. 514	Posted - 2016.02.12 01:08:00 - [31] - Quote Soto Gallente wrote: Shaun Iwairo wrote: Soto Gallente wrote: Medical Crash wrote: People that don't belong in our server. If you are 50,000 miles away from the most populated server, go away. There is only one server. I disagree with you, everyone should play with everyone, that is the only way to have a fully integrated sandbox where everything you do affects it. Goddamn this is an interesting point that I don't think has been brought up yet. I think most people agree that Phoenix should operate in more of a sandbox mode rather than a lobby mode, but in an FPS a ping of 100+ is near unplayable. Having two players from different parts of the world roaming around on the same planet is awesome and all but if they get into a firefight with each other one of them will likely be at a big disadvantage. How do you consolidate the two? Won't someone think of the Australians?! Well they do it in EVE: Online don't they? They have people from dozens upon dozens of countries all playing the game on one giant server. It works in Eve because of 1-second server ticks. Something is killing new player retention.
Soto Gallente 920	Posted - 2016.02.12 01:10:00 - [32] - Quote Shaun Iwairo wrote: Soto Gallente wrote: Shaun Iwairo wrote: Soto Gallente wrote: Medical Crash wrote: People that don't belong in our server. If you are 50,000 miles away from the most populated server, go away. There is only one server. I disagree with you, everyone should play with everyone, that is the only way to have a fully integrated sandbox where everything you do affects it. Goddamn this is an interesting point that I don't think has been brought up yet. I think most people agree that Phoenix should operate in more of a sandbox mode rather than a lobby mode, but in an FPS a ping of 100+ is near unplayable. Having two players from different parts of the world roaming around on the same planet is awesome and all but if they get into a firefight with each other one of them will likely be at a big disadvantage. How do you consolidate the two? Won't someone think of the Australians?! Well they do it in EVE: Online don't they? They have people from dozens upon dozens of countries all playing the game on one giant server. It works in Eve because of 1-second server ticks. Then what is to stop them from doing the same thing in the new EVE: fps? Ex-news reporter for The Scope
Living Rock 523 Intara Direct Action Caldari State 87	Posted - 2016.02.12 01:15:00 - [33] - Quote Shaun Iwairo wrote: Won't someone think of the Australians?! Poison jellyfish, great white sharks, the threat of Chinese military expansion, high ping, vicious kangaroo attacks, drop bears, the list goes on. I don't know how they do it.
Shaun Iwairo Simple Minded People Pty. Ltd. 516	Posted - 2016.02.12 01:15:00 - [34] - Quote Soto Gallente wrote: Shaun Iwairo wrote: Soto Gallente wrote: Shaun Iwairo wrote: Having two players from different parts of the world roaming around on the same planet is awesome and all but if they get into a firefight with each other one of them will likely be at a big disadvantage. How do you consolidate the two? Won't someone think of the Australians?! Well they do it in EVE: Online don't they? They have people from dozens upon dozens of countries all playing the game on one giant server. It works in Eve because of 1-second server ticks. Then what is to stop them from doing the same thing in the new EVE: fps? 1 second server ticks (1-tick) would make it feel like you had a ping of 1000ms. For reference, CS:GO has 64-tick (~15ms) and 128-tick (~7.5ms) servers. Something is killing new player retention.
Soto Gallente 920	Posted - 2016.02.12 01:26:00 - [35] - Quote Shaun Iwairo wrote: Soto Gallente wrote: Shaun Iwairo wrote: Soto Gallente wrote: Shaun Iwairo wrote: Having two players from different parts of the world roaming around on the same planet is awesome and all but if they get into a firefight with each other one of them will likely be at a big disadvantage. How do you consolidate the two? Won't someone think of the Australians?! Well they do it in EVE: Online don't they? They have people from dozens upon dozens of countries all playing the game on one giant server. It works in Eve because of 1-second server ticks. Then what is to stop them from doing the same thing in the new EVE: fps? 1 second server ticks (1-tick) would make it feel like you had a ping of 1000ms. For reference, CS:GO has 64-tick (~15ms) and 128-tick (~7.5ms) servers. Well, considering that the Tranquility server is constantly getting upgrades, would that help with anything? Ex-news reporter for The Scope
Shaun Iwairo Simple Minded People Pty. Ltd. 518	Posted - 2016.02.12 01:43:00 - [36] - Quote Soto Gallente wrote: Well, considering that the Tranquility server is constantly getting upgrades, would that help with anything? Playing Eve from Aus my ping to tranq is about 250ms, which is fine because the important commands that needs to be validated by the server are only updated once a second. Generally I'm at no disadvantage vs someone in London with a 10ms ping to tranq because we both have to wait for that once-a-second update. All the gameplay mechanics of Eve are based around the 1 second ticks, so it doesn't seem laggy. For an FPS you need a much higher tick rate to make things seem smooth, so now you run into the problem of geographical location. If your ping is higher than the server tick rate all sorts of problems like bad hit detection come up (think of what happens with the high ping South American players). Something is killing new player retention.
Breakin Stuff Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 12	Posted - 2016.02.12 01:44:00 - [37] - Quote Ticks are a coding thing, not a hardware thing. It's how spreadsheets in space doesn't nuke the hardware via calculation overload. You cannot do that in an FPS. Imagine a gigantic, shiny bug zapper. Embrace your destiny.
Sned TheDead Y.A.M.A.H 1	Posted - 2016.02.12 02:13:00 - [38] - Quote Lag. Not gonna happen, but still.... RAIN! Sned T. Dead I am Undead
Living Rock 523 Intara Direct Action Caldari State 88	Posted - 2016.02.12 02:13:00 - [39] - Quote So how big of an issue would varying pings be for PC Dust, and does CCP have any solid work around for the issue?
Viktor Hadah Jr 0uter.Heaven 10	Posted - 2016.02.12 02:25:00 - [40] - Quote Lockboxes and triple stacking booster need to burn in hell till the end of time. Keys and lockboxes are the root of all evil. Buying dead and inactive corporations

Shaun Iwairo Simple Minded People Pty. Ltd. 520	Posted - 2016.02.12 02:27:00 - [41] - Quote Living Rock 523 wrote: So how big of an issue would varying pings be for PC Dust, and does CCP have any solid work around for the issue? Up to a certain point varying pings don't really matter. San Fran to NY is about 75ms which is still quite playable but you might notice some weird edge cases. However two people that are on different continents duking it out in an FPS would experience very noticeable latency issues. Unless some new internet technology comes around before the release of Phoenix I can't see how it'd be viable to have everyone PvP'ing on the same physical server. Something is killing new player retention.
Living Rock 523 Intara Direct Action Caldari State 90	Posted - 2016.02.12 02:31:00 - [42] - Quote And how big of an issue will that be for the vision of a fully connected EVE/Dust?
Shaun Iwairo Simple Minded People Pty. Ltd. 520	Posted - 2016.02.12 02:38:00 - [43] - Quote Living Rock 523 wrote: And how big of an issue will that be for the vision of a fully connected EVE/Dust? I can't see it having any impact unless you're expecting a Rifter to fly down into the battlefield and start pew-pewing mercs. OBs work because they don't rely on lining your sights up on a moving player. Markets and trading, districts changing ownership, chat, teleporting between star systems, etc all can work fine with once-a-second updates. Something is killing new player retention.
Living Rock 523 Intara Direct Action Caldari State 93	Posted - 2016.02.12 02:50:00 - [44] - Quote And what about important battles, say a PC-esq match, involving an American Corp vs an Australian Corp, or a European Corp vs a South American Corp? Are we looking at lag levels equal to what we have now? Less? More?
Soto Gallente 926	Posted - 2016.02.12 02:53:00 - [45] - Quote Living Rock 523 wrote: And what about important battles, say a PC-esq match, involving an American Corp vs an Australian Corp, or a European Corp vs a South American Corp? Are we looking at lag levels equal to what we have now? Less? More? Definitely less if we are talking on PC and not decade old POS Ex-news reporter for The Scope
jordy mack WarRavens Imperium Eden 1	Posted - 2016.02.12 02:54:00 - [46] - Quote i would prefer not to send my enemy a mail alerting them of my intention to attack them. i could never understand this. Less QQ more PewPew
Shaun Iwairo Simple Minded People Pty. Ltd. 523	Posted - 2016.02.12 02:59:00 - [47] - Quote Living Rock 523 wrote: And what about important battles, say a PC-esq match, involving an American Corp vs an Australian Corp, or a European Corp vs a South American Corp? Are we looking at lag levels equal to what we have now? Less? More? Hard to tell because we don't know how much lag is attributed to the game itself vs peoples internet connection. You will always get the lag that comes from peoples internet connection, which is not insignificant for Australia -> US or Euro -> South America. The absolute theoretical minimum (assuming 0 delays at either end and the server) for Melbourne, Aus to NY, USA is 107ms because the signal cannot travel faster than the speed of light. Obviously this time is never achieved in practice. E: But Blaze is right, I would be very surprised if it wasn't less. Something is killing new player retention.
Godin Thekiller Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 3	Posted - 2016.02.12 03:19:00 - [48] - Quote Bad vehicle mechanics. Top lel
Lahut K'mar Ametat Security Amarr Empire 166	Posted - 2016.02.12 03:42:00 - [49] - Quote Train Depot 2.0: Redliner valley edition. "If you want a vision of Dust 514, imagine a boot stamping on a human face - forever." -George Orwell
Lahut K'mar Ametat Security Amarr Empire 167	Posted - 2016.02.12 03:49:00 - [50] - Quote Megaman Trigger wrote: OP, unbalanced gear that can be easily farmed and/or easily traded between players. Campable spawns. Super Mari-lol fits 1 Punch Man fits Translation: Fun. "If you want a vision of Dust 514, imagine a boot stamping on a human face - forever." -George Orwell

Soto Gallente 931	Posted - 2016.02.12 03:50:00 - [51] - Quote Lahut K'mar wrote: Megaman Trigger wrote: OP, unbalanced gear that can be easily farmed and/or easily traded between players. Campable spawns. Super Mari-lol fits 1 Punch Man fits Translation: Fun. I would be okay with the current iteration of myofibs put into the next game as long as there is actual physics in the game. Ex-news reporter for The Scope
LOOKMOM NOHANDS 601	Posted - 2016.02.12 06:57:00 - [52] - Quote CCP But seriously, Dust 514 is an amazing list of mistakes and that list is exactly what I do not want to see in Eve FPS 2.0
Megaman Trigger OSG Planetary Operations 1	Posted - 2016.02.12 11:48:00 - [53] - Quote Lahut K'mar wrote: Megaman Trigger wrote: OP, unbalanced gear that can be easily farmed and/or easily traded between players. Campable spawns. Super Mari-lol fits 1 Punch Man fits Translation: Fun. Game was fun before super jumps and power fists. Purifier. First Class. Legends never die
Alena Asakura Caldari Logistics Reserve 429	Posted - 2016.02.12 13:58:00 - [54] - Quote Shaun Iwairo wrote: Soto Gallente wrote: Medical Crash wrote: People that don't belong in our server. If you are 50,000 miles away from the most populated server, go away. There is only one server. I disagree with you, everyone should play with everyone, that is the only way to have a fully integrated sandbox where everything you do affects it. Goddamn this is an interesting point that I don't think has been brought up yet. I think most people agree that Phoenix should operate in more of a sandbox mode rather than a lobby mode, but in an FPS a ping of 100+ is near unplayable. Having two players from different parts of the world roaming around on the same planet is awesome and all but if they get into a firefight with each other one of them will likely be at a big disadvantage. How do you consolidate the two? Won't someone think of the Australians?! Agreed! I'm Australian and can vouch that the network lag down here, to virtually any of the battle servers is deplorable. It is for EvE, too, for that matter, but EvE is all server based - the "hit detection" is a computer algorithm, so it's not really an issue. The problem then is client based activity and hit detection. I'm sure that CCP has already thought a lot of this through, but it's an interesting mental exercise... :)
Alena Asakura Caldari Logistics Reserve 429	Posted - 2016.02.12 14:00:00 - [55] - Quote Murder Medic wrote: Soto Gallente wrote: I don't want round based gameplay in the next game Good luck with that one. It's important to have lobbies for people to just hop into. Instead of taking away other peoples fun, you should hope for a null sec planet to fight over or something like that, where it's just combat 24/7 No. The whole point of the EvE Universe is constant, continuous war. Round based lobby shooters just don't fit in that world.
Alena Asakura Caldari Logistics Reserve 429	Posted - 2016.02.12 14:01:00 - [56] - Quote Soto Gallente wrote: Shaun Iwairo wrote: Soto Gallente wrote: Medical Crash wrote: People that don't belong in our server. If you are 50,000 miles away from the most populated server, go away. There is only one server. I disagree with you, everyone should play with everyone, that is the only way to have a fully integrated sandbox where everything you do affects it. Goddamn this is an interesting point that I don't think has been brought up yet. I think most people agree that Phoenix should operate in more of a sandbox mode rather than a lobby mode, but in an FPS a ping of 100+ is near unplayable. Having two players from different parts of the world roaming around on the same planet is awesome and all but if they get into a firefight with each other one of them will likely be at a big disadvantage. How do you consolidate the two? Won't someone think of the Australians?! Well they do it in EVE: Online don't they? They have people from dozens upon dozens of countries all playing the game on one giant server. Yes, they do, but with EvE there is no "hit detection" issue. That's all controlled by algorithms on the server. The client is just for presentation and command input.
Alena Asakura Caldari Logistics Reserve 429	Posted - 2016.02.12 14:02:00 - [57] - Quote Soto Gallente wrote: Murder Medic wrote: Soto Gallente wrote: I don't want round based gameplay in the next game Good luck with that one. It's important to have lobbies for people to just hop into. Instead of taking away other peoples fun, you should hope for a null sec planet to fight over or something like that, where it's just combat 24/7 I don't think Phoenix should be a game as much as it is a "space sim". That's right, I'm talking cities, battlefields, titan boarding parties, the like ... Just like Dust was supposed to be in the first place... :)
Alena Asakura Caldari Logistics Reserve 429	Posted - 2016.02.12 14:03:00 - [58] - Quote Shaun Iwairo wrote: Soto Gallente wrote: Shaun Iwairo wrote: Soto Gallente wrote: Medical Crash wrote: People that don't belong in our server. If you are 50,000 miles away from the most populated server, go away. There is only one server. I disagree with you, everyone should play with everyone, that is the only way to have a fully integrated sandbox where everything you do affects it. Goddamn this is an interesting point that I don't think has been brought up yet. I think most people agree that Phoenix should operate in more of a sandbox mode rather than a lobby mode, but in an FPS a ping of 100+ is near unplayable. Having two players from different parts of the world roaming around on the same planet is awesome and all but if they get into a firefight with each other one of them will likely be at a big disadvantage. How do you consolidate the two? Won't someone think of the Australians?! Well they do it in EVE: Online don't they? They have people from dozens upon dozens of countries all playing the game on one giant server. It works in Eve because of 1-second server ticks. It works in EvE because of server algorithms for "hit detection".
Alena Asakura Caldari Logistics Reserve 429	Posted - 2016.02.12 14:05:00 - [59] - Quote Soto Gallente wrote: Shaun Iwairo wrote: It works in Eve because of 1-second server ticks. Then what is to stop them from doing the same thing in the new EVE: fps? The problem would be that you have to have client-side hit detection for a FPS. It's the client-side hit detection that's the problem with network lag in Dust. EvE doesn't have this problem, because EvE uses server algorithms for hit detection simulation.
Alena Asakura Caldari Logistics Reserve 429	Posted - 2016.02.12 14:06:00 - [60] - Quote Living Rock 523 wrote: Shaun Iwairo wrote: Won't someone think of the Australians?! Poison jellyfish, great white sharks, the threat of Chinese military expansion, high ping, vicious kangaroo attacks, drop bears, the list goes on. I don't know how they do it. lol It's easy - you grow up with it so you learn to live with it. :)

Alena Asakura Caldari Logistics Reserve 429	Posted - 2016.02.12 14:10:00 - [61] - Quote Shaun Iwairo wrote: Living Rock 523 wrote: So how big of an issue would varying pings be for PC Dust, and does CCP have any solid work around for the issue? Up to a certain point varying pings don't really matter. San Fran to NY is about 75ms which is still quite playable but you might notice some weird edge cases. However two people that are on different continents duking it out in an FPS would experience very noticeable latency issues. Unless some new internet technology comes around before the release of Phoenix I can't see how it'd be viable to have everyone PvP'ing on the same physical server. I've postulated that quantum entangled pairs of particles might be the answer - instant communication at faster than light speeds. We'll just have to wait until they work out how to do it. :)
maybe deadcatz Serris Inc 2	Posted - 2016.02.12 14:11:00 - [62] - Quote Lol people whining about melee fits. The qq just because of the jump ability. Takes balls to run around with a nanite injector and beating people to death with it. So please,angle your tears into the bottle for my best refreshment. Ha!You can't kill me! I'm already dead!
LOL KILLZ LulKlz 625	Posted - 2016.02.12 14:23:00 - [63] - Quote Burn in Hell militia fits. Everyone should get a free Apex upon getting let's say 10 mil SP. JUST 1. A F$&@!#% working HMG FOR MY AMARR SENTINEL!!!! Cheap proto suits need to burn as well. Make them extremely expensive. If I, with just running pubs can make enough to buy proto by the 100s we gots a problem. HMG is my first love SR my Sancha
ANON Cerberus TerranProtossZerg 1	Posted - 2016.02.14 05:48:00 - [64] - Quote The Return of Logistics vehicles with a proper logistics role and purpose just like Logi in EVE online. Give me my god damn fast Scimitar-esq reppy vehicle and all is well in the world. For many the maximum enjoyment is recking face and getting mad kills. For people like me, supporting my team mates having to think on the fly and making the good into the truly great is my kind of fun EDIT- I Don't want to see a lackof PVE (I would love to actually see a fun form of co-operative or even competitive pve in the next game)
Lightning35 Delta514 Federation Marines 62 4	Posted - 2016.02.19 13:40:00 - [65] - Quote :\| CEO of Federation Marines 62 - Bravo Company Gallente Loyalist - Quafe Gk.0s - 62m SP
TooMany Names AlreadyTaken Going for the gold 2	Posted - 2016.02.19 13:57:00 - [66] - Quote Llamastar wrote: SHERIFF joe arapio wrote: Besides lightening debbie. Myotards. You mean strictly jumpers, right? We all want to run around super-punchin' people in the gut. #HYPE for EVE: Phoenix May God have mercy for my enemies because I won't. - George S. Patton Jr.


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