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KEROSIINI-TERO
Dead Man's Game
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Posted - 2016.02.06 02:28:00 -
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Those players who have UNUSED AURUM should have it transferred (with appropriate ratio, ofc) to Eve Online.
That is real money given to CCP, and as AUR is just a form of unused money, it should not be zeroed when the Dust ends.
It is not realistic to request transfer to Legion/Legion2, as it is only theoretical and years away, plus there should not be any gap in client-provider relationship (which would happen).
This is a very sensible request. Please support it, and CCP please consider it.
Thank you.
"Cut cut cut - Trim trim trim!"
KERO-TRADER is my official Eve character for Dust trading.
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Pokey Dravon
OSG Planetary Operations
7
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Posted - 2016.02.06 02:30:00 -
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You do know you have almost 4 months to use whatever AUR you have left...
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Viktor Hadah Jr
0uter.Heaven
10
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Posted - 2016.02.06 02:32:00 -
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I forget my pricing for EVE Aur. because lolEVEAUR
But i believe in dust you can get 40,000 AUR for 20$ when in EVE you can only get 4,000.
They would need to do some adjustment but i agree it would be a good gesture.
I stop playing video games, I don't "retire"
Buying dead and inactive corporations
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KEROSIINI-TERO
Dead Man's Game
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Posted - 2016.02.06 02:32:00 -
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Pokey Dravon wrote:You do know you have almost 4 months to use whatever AUR you have left...
Ahem. For a skin which disappears? For boosters which' effect disappears?
Unused money is unused money.
Announcement of ending of service is proper cause to ask for reparative action - although not monetary refund.
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KEROSIINI-TERO
Dead Man's Game
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Posted - 2016.02.06 02:34:00 -
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Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:I forget my pricing for EVE Aur. because lolEVEAUR
But i believe in dust you can get 40,000 AUR for 20$ when in EVE you can only get 4,000.
They would need to do some adjustment but i agree it would be a good gesture.
OF COURSE with adjustments.
Who here was asking for 1:1? 
In winter-spring 2013 they multiplied all the prices and AUR amounts by 10x in order to have better granularity in Dust item prices.
Before that, the prices were pretty much comparative.
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Murder Medic
Forty-Nine Fedayeen
Minmatar Republic
582
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Posted - 2016.02.06 02:35:00 -
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KEROSIINI-TERO wrote:Pokey Dravon wrote:You do know you have almost 4 months to use whatever AUR you have left... Ahem. For a skin which disappears? For boosters which' effect disappears? Unused money is unused money. Announcement of ending of service is proper cause to ask for reparative action - although not monetary refund.
I'm very curious to see how CCP handles this. They have a habit of burning us though, but who knows.
Farewell DUST
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Viktor Hadah Jr
0uter.Heaven
10
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Posted - 2016.02.06 02:37:00 -
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Pokey Dravon wrote:You do know you have almost 4 months to use whatever AUR you have left...
Wait, AUR has use?
I stop playing video games, I don't "retire"
Buying dead and inactive corporations
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Pokey Dravon
OSG Planetary Operations
7
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Posted - 2016.02.06 02:53:00 -
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All AUR ever purchased ever, would be used for things that would ultimately be useless at some point because the game could never last forever. So by that logic, all AUR I've ever spent should be compensated because the boosters I purchased produced SP that will ultimately be useless. Right? I guess that just doesn't make sense to me.
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KEROSIINI-TERO
Dead Man's Game
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Posted - 2016.02.06 03:05:00 -
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Pokey Dravon wrote:All AUR ever purchased ever, would be used for things that would ultimately be useless at some point because the game could never last forever. So by that logic, all AUR I've ever spent should be compensated because the boosters I purchased produced SP that will ultimately be useless. Right? I guess that just doesn't make sense to me.
You are just wanting to view it like that.
"Cut cut cut - Trim trim trim!"
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Pokey Dravon
OSG Planetary Operations
7
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Posted - 2016.02.06 03:07:00 -
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Well no Im curious. I mean....if I bought AUR and then a booster the day before the announcement, would I not be eligble for a refund? But if I bought a booster the day after the announcement, would I be eligible for the refund?
At what point is AUR spent "wasted" vs "not wasted"? Like, what would the cutoff be in your mind?
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Shaun Iwairo
Simple Minded People Pty. Ltd.
470
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Posted - 2016.02.06 03:10:00 -
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It's kinda interesting watching all the people in the forums just now learning what microtransactions are.
Something is killing new player retention.
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KEROSIINI-TERO
Dead Man's Game
2
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Posted - 2016.02.06 03:19:00 -
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Pokey Dravon wrote:Well no Im curious. I mean....if I bought AUR and then a booster the day before the announcement, would I not be eligible for a refund? But if I bought a booster the day after the announcement, would I be eligible for the refund?
At what point is AUR spent "wasted" vs "not wasted"? Like, what would the cutoff be in your mind?
I don't care about goods and services bought with aurum.
I don't care about my 100+ Omega Boosters - they are all lost and that is good.
I have only a little pocket AUR left. I am not advocating a real life money refund, that would be lololololloo lollero.
I AM advocating transfer of unused medium of real life money - the AUR. Which is in an environment managed by a corporation called CCP, which also has another linked environment called Eve, which has similar medium for similar purpose in there. The Eve AUR.
"Cut cut cut - Trim trim trim!"
KERO-TRADER is my official Eve character for Dust trading.
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KEROSIINI-TERO
Dead Man's Game
2
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Posted - 2016.02.06 03:21:00 -
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Shaun Iwairo wrote:It's kinda interesting watching all the people in the forums just now learning what microtransactions are.
Before giving you the rude answer:
The suggestion is about doing the said micro transactions in another game by the same company, instead of a discontinued one.
Or are you willing to act more stupid than you probably aren't?
"Cut cut cut - Trim trim trim!"
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Mobius Wyvern
Fatal Absolution
Bleeding Sun Conglomerate
7
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Posted - 2016.02.06 03:55:00 -
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I'm afraid the End User License Agreement already has them covered there.
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Shaun Iwairo
Simple Minded People Pty. Ltd.
472
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Posted - 2016.02.06 04:01:00 -
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KEROSIINI-TERO wrote:Shaun Iwairo wrote:It's kinda interesting watching all the people in the forums just now learning what microtransactions are. Before giving you the rude answer: The suggestion is about doing the said micro transactions in another game by the same company, instead of a discontinued one. Or are you willing to act more stupid than you probably aren't?
From CCPs perspective, Dust Aurum funds Dust payroll and Eve Aurum (helps to) fund Eve payroll.
If you bring a bunch of Dust Aurum into Eve (even at the adjusted rate), you will reduce the amount of Eve Aurum that is bought until all the Dust Aurum is consumed.
It's hard for me to explain but all the cash from Dust Aurum is likely already budgeted for in Shanghai and thus 'spent'. The same goes for Eve Aurum, but what you're suggesting would reduce the amount of cash from Eve Aurum purchases and in turn put a hole in the Eve budget.
Something is killing new player retention.
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Murder Medic
Forty-Nine Fedayeen
Minmatar Republic
582
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Posted - 2016.02.06 04:17:00 -
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Mobius Wyvern wrote:I'm afraid the End User License Agreement already has them covered there.
That's certainly clear, this is just one of those good will kind of things.
Do they just slam the door in paying customers faces, tell them to switch systems, and hope they come back to spending more money? After all, CCP was the one that billed this game as a persisitent MMOFPS set in the EVE universe, with a 10 year plan and certainly no chance of a DUST 514-2
CCP is absolutely within their legal rights to say **** you, you get what you paid for, now buy more AUR.
Or they could try to find a way to carry purchases from this game into the next, since they, while different, are in essence the same game.
That all said, CCP has shown time and time again that they really just don't give a **** what we think, and will do what CCP will do regardless. I'm just glad I stopped purchasing AUR a long time ago.
Farewell DUST
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Maken Tosch
DUST University
Ivy League
12
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Posted - 2016.02.06 04:21:00 -
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CCP should only count the amount of unspent AUR that was obtained through the PSN store. That should be relatively easy to compute by subtracting the amount of unspent AUR that was gained for free through daily logins and events from the remainder.
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Scotty AI MatchMaker
WarRavens
Imperium Eden
463
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Posted - 2016.02.06 04:58:00 -
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KEROSIINI-TERO wrote:Those players who have UNUSED AURUM should have it transferred (with appropriate ratio, ofc) to Eve Online.
That is real money given to CCP, and as AUR is just a form of unused money, it should not be zeroed when the Dust ends.
It is not realistic to request transfer to Legion/Legion2, as it is only theoretical and years away, plus there should not be any gap in client-provider relationship (which would happen).
This is a very sensible request. Please support it, and CCP please consider it.
Thank you.
Isnt Aur a hell of a lot cheaper on Dust than it is EvE?
It would never happen no matter how much you want that new ships skin
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LOOKMOM NOHANDS
571
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Posted - 2016.02.06 09:47:00 -
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KEROSIINI-TERO wrote:Those players who have UNUSED AURUM should have it transferred (with appropriate ratio, ofc) to Eve Online.
That is real money given to CCP, and as AUR is just a form of unused money, it should not be zeroed when the Dust ends.
It is not realistic to request transfer to Legion/Legion2, as it is only theoretical and years away, plus there should not be any gap in client-provider relationship (which would happen).
This is a very sensible request. Please support it, and CCP please consider it.
Thank you.
I think they should sell us plex for Dust ISK and let us cash out.
I seriously regret keeping billions piled up in my wallet on Dust. Even at the last exchange rates I could pay for almost a year on my Eve subscription with what is now forever gone on my Dust toon.
As much as I said Dust is going to die I decided to keep a good deal of money Dust side due to some glimmer of hope. That gamble has now cost me a fair amount of money. |
KEROSIINI-TERO
Dead Man's Game
2
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Posted - 2016.02.06 12:28:00 -
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Shaun Iwairo wrote:
From CCPs perspective, Dust Aurum funds Dust payroll and Eve Aurum (helps to) fund Eve payroll.
If you bring a bunch of Dust Aurum into Eve (even at the adjusted rate), you will reduce the amount of Eve Aurum that is bought until all the Dust Aurum is consumed.
It's hard for me to explain but all the cash from Dust Aurum is likely already budgeted for in Shanghai and thus 'spent'. The same goes for Eve Aurum, but what you're suggesting would reduce the amount of cash from Eve Aurum purchases and in turn put a hole in the Eve budget.
That's why it's prudent to ask for a change in that.
"Cut cut cut - Trim trim trim!"
KERO-TRADER is my official Eve character for Dust trading.
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KEROSIINI-TERO
Dead Man's Game
2
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Posted - 2016.02.06 12:30:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:CCP should only count the amount of unspent AUR that was obtained through the PSN store. That should be relatively easy to compute by subtracting the amount of unspent AUR that was gained for free through daily logins and events from the remainder.
Oh damn forgot those dailies 0\
"Cut cut cut - Trim trim trim!"
KERO-TRADER is my official Eve character for Dust trading.
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KEROSIINI-TERO
Dead Man's Game
2
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Posted - 2016.02.06 12:32:00 -
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Scotty AI MatchMaker wrote:
Isnt Aur a hell of a lot cheaper on Dust than it is EvE?
It would never happen no matter how much you want that new ships skin
it is 10x cheaper because of January 2013.
Why would a 1:1 reparation be the only option?
"Cut cut cut - Trim trim trim!"
KERO-TRADER is my official Eve character for Dust trading.
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Takahiro Kashuken
Red Star.
4
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Posted - 2016.02.06 13:20:00 -
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AUR bought is money spent either way but if you have AUR leftover then that is money unspent and unused in the game.
No point using it now when the game will end since i do expect everything to be deleted apart from my name.
I have just under 160k of AUR which i will never use atm but if they do a transfer to the new game i get no real advantage from the get go in comparision to if they transfered my 102mil of SP or my 670mil ISK balance.
All i get is my AUR back to respend in the new game, that is no including all the AUR i bought and spent over the lifetime of this game which i do considered lost since i did use it.
If anything it would be more of a goodwill gesture if CCP did this and would also not upset the balance of the new like SP/ISK would.
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LOOKMOM NOHANDS
571
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Posted - 2016.02.06 13:26:00 -
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Just spend it all you will get a shiny badge in the new game that says your loyalty rank from this game.
That is assuming you actually still remember CCP in 2025 when they finally release the so called new game.
This new game is in "early stages of development"
WoD was in "early stages of development" for 10 years before it got canned.
Dust never even made it out of beta, it just had the label changed because Sony forced them too.
This is CCP we are talking about. Delivery is not something they accomplish well.
My guess is a 5 minute trailer at the upcoming fanfest followed by a solid year of silence.
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Takahiro Kashuken
Red Star.
4
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Posted - 2016.02.06 23:40:00 -
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I doubt chargeback works for purchese over a year ago though.
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Soldner VonKuechle
SAM-MIK
General Tso's Alliance
2
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Posted - 2016.02.07 00:10:00 -
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I bet you're the kind of people that biitch about a steak being done improperly after you've eaten the whole thing, while expecting your meal to be comp'ed.
Like usual, the forums went full r-tard with the news.
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Maken Tosch
DUST University
Ivy League
12
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Posted - 2016.02.07 00:43:00 -
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Takahiro Kashuken wrote:I doubt chargeback works for purchese over a year ago though.
That's another thing about the New Eden FPS for PC. CCP can directly challenge any chargebacks and they have the balls to do that. Sony of course is too scardy cat to challenge any chargebacks and give in too easily to consumer requests for refunds.
Don't get me wrong though. If you see that you are clearly wronged as a customer, you deserve a refund. But the Sony's fear of losing customers is so large that it can potentially enable some people to abuse that system. CCP doesn't have that fear and have often successfully fought back against chargebacks made by botters in Eve Online.
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KEROSIINI-TERO
Dead Man's Game
2
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Posted - 2016.02.07 01:11:00 -
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Soldner VonKuechle wrote:I bet you're the kind of people that biitch about a steak being done improperly after you've eaten the whole thing, while expecting your meal to be comp'ed.
Talking to me? Surely not, but in case you were:
No, definately not.
But, I'm the person who complains if a restaurant sells pre-paid lunch cards of ten and after using just two of those lunches, announces they are no longer open at lunch time at all. Then I would ask for reimbursement for those UNEATEN, NOT EATEN, UNUSED, lunches.
Maybe I should clarify the uneaten part more???
Sour level over 9000.
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KEROSIINI-TERO
Dead Man's Game
2
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Posted - 2016.02.07 01:13:00 -
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It's kinda funny how the players are actually against this suggested transfer for players' benefit.
Either they are incognito CCP agents, or envy is the most driving force in human nature.
Sour level over 9000.
KERO-TRADER is my official Eve character for Dust trading.
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Soldner VonKuechle
SAM-MIK
General Tso's Alliance
2
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Posted - 2016.02.07 01:25:00 -
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KEROSIINI-TERO wrote:It's kinda funny how the players are actually against this suggested transfer for players' benefit.
Either they are incognito CCP agents, or envy is the most driving force in human nature.
Naw, we're not complete total idiots.
Also, why would dust players want to get eve aurum?
If anything id want it to transfer to eve fphoenixs, even if those details aren't sketched out yet or applicable.
If you've stated it before, please requote it, i couldve lost it in the mewling.
Like usual, the forums went full r-tard with the news.
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Ice Royal Glantix
0.P.
397
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Posted - 2016.02.07 01:32:00 -
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Unused aurum is not unused money. Your money was used. You used it purchase aurum. Don't make it sound like you didn't actually use your money, because you did, and got exactly what you paid for.
Also, everytime you made a purchase, surely you were aware that game wasn't going to be around forever. Every penny should have been spent under the assumption that it would eventually be for nothing.
I don't think there is a need for a transfer. Even if there was, it would be a huge pain in the ass for CCP to transfer the aurum over, as they have no way of telling which Eve characters and Dust characters are owned by the same person. Your best bet is to try a help ticket, but I doubt you will get what you want, as you don't really deserve it.
Also, I don't quite like your analogy.
KEROSIINI-TERO wrote:Soldner VonKuechle wrote:I bet you're the kind of people that biitch about a steak being done improperly after you've eaten the whole thing, while expecting your meal to be comp'ed. Talking to me? Surely not, but in case you were: No, definately not. But, I'm the person who complains if a restaurant sells pre-paid lunch cards of ten and after using just two of those lunches, announces they are no longer open at lunch time at all. Then I would ask for reimbursement for those UNEATEN, NOT EATEN, UNUSED, lunches. Maybe I should clarify the uneaten part more???
Dust is more like a restaurant that has free steaks and sells really tasty barbecue sauce. You bought a lot of barbecue sauce, but the resteraunt is going to close in four months.
Instead of just putting the barbecue sauce you bought on the steaks at this resteraunt, you want the resteraunt to spend much time and effort changing their BBQ sauce recipe so it tastes good with a different restaurant's steaks.
At least, that's how I see it. Maybe you shouldn't have spent so much on barbecue sauce that you weren't ready to eat.
"Solitude is not a burden; it is a gift, for independence allows us to realize our own potential."
Glantix / Ice
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KEROSIINI-TERO
Dead Man's Game
2
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Posted - 2016.02.07 02:40:00 -
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Ice Royal Glantix wrote:Unused aurum is not unused money. Your money was used. You used it purchase aurum. Don't make it sound like you didn't actually use your money, because you did, and got exactly what you paid for. Also, everytime you made a purchase, surely you were aware that game wasn't going to be around forever. Every penny should have been spent under the assumption that it would eventually be for nothing. I don't think there is a need for a transfer. Even if there was, it would be a huge pain in the ass for CCP to transfer the aurum over, as they have no way of telling which Eve characters and Dust characters are owned by the same person. Your best bet is to try a help ticket, but I doubt you will get what you want, as you don't really deserve it. Also, I don't quite like your analogy. KEROSIINI-TERO wrote:Soldner VonKuechle wrote:I bet you're the kind of people that biitch about a steak being done improperly after you've eaten the whole thing, while expecting your meal to be comp'ed. Talking to me? Surely not, but in case you were: No, definately not. But, I'm the person who complains if a restaurant sells pre-paid lunch cards of ten and after using just two of those lunches, announces they are no longer open at lunch time at all. Then I would ask for reimbursement for those UNEATEN, NOT EATEN, UNUSED, lunches. Maybe I should clarify the uneaten part more??? Dust is more like a restaurant that has free steaks and sells really tasty barbecue sauce. You bought a lot of barbecue sauce, but the resteraunt is going to close in four months. Instead of just putting the barbecue sauce you bought on the steaks at this resteraunt, you want the resteraunt to spend much time and effort changing their BBQ sauce recipe so it tastes good with a different restaurant's steaks. At least, that's how I see it. Maybe you shouldn't have spent so much on barbecue sauce that you weren't ready to eat.
Well I didn't like the first steak analogy. You should dislike that first.
Unused aurum isn't unused money on my wallet. Unused aurum is unused aurum. Well daa-aa. Not so difficult.
Again, why are you doing the game companys explaining here? Let them do it.
If there is a minor chance that a small part of purchase, in an unused in-game purchase medium, could be transferred to a comparative medium in a same companys alternative product, why should not ask for it?
Why battle it?
Sour level over 9000.
KERO-TRADER is my official Eve character for Dust trading.
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benandjerrys
WarRavens
Imperium Eden
1
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Posted - 2016.02.07 04:11:00 -
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Payouts based on current incentive rank. Something rather low and innocuous not to exceed $100.
The butthurt is strong
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Soldner VonKuechle
SAM-MIK
General Tso's Alliance
2
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Posted - 2016.02.07 04:17:00 -
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Alright, let's go with your lunches model.
You still have 8 lunches left on your non-refundable lunch card, out of 10.
The restaurant is a nice little 20 seater dinner, spotty service, goofy hours but amazing food and pretty baller regulars.
The DUSTy-spoon tells you that they're closing in 4 months for an unknown amount of time to rebuild the place, better, more up to code. You have 4 months to burn through those non refundable lunches.
You are unsatisfied with such a prospect, so are now arguing that since you already paid for the lunches at the DUSTy-spoon, you should be able to use them at the owners other establishment, mid-summer nights EVE; a high class sit down three course meal dining establishment. You continue to ask that it hould be possible on merit because you already paid for these lunches, disregarding you still have 4 months to eat them, and not even asking if you would be able to redeem the lunches at the replacement venue of DUSTy-spoon, the grilled PHOENIX (working title).
My friend your asking the wrong questions for something you bought.
I get you want to use the in game medium that exists IN NAME ONLY between games, but its just not going to happen.
The rest of us pretty much can guarantee it.
I respect and admire your willingness to try, but your literal best bet is to file a support ticket and see what Archduke and the EVE team say.
Get why we're being sardonic and snarky now?
Congressional staffers are more intelligent than the people I find on these forums.
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Ice Royal Glantix
0.P.
397
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Posted - 2016.02.07 06:45:00 -
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Soldner VonKuechle wrote:Alright, let's go with your lunches model.
You still have 8 lunches left on your non-refundable lunch card, out of 10.
The restaurant is a nice little 20 seater dinner, spotty service, goofy hours but amazing food and pretty baller regulars.
The DUSTy-spoon tells you that they're closing in 4 months for an unknown amount of time to rebuild the place, better, more up to code. You have 4 months to burn through those non refundable lunches.
You are unsatisfied with such a prospect, so are now arguing that since you already paid for the lunches at the DUSTy-spoon, you should be able to use them at the owners other establishment, mid-summer nights EVE; a high class sit down three course meal dining establishment. You continue to ask that it hould be possible on merit because you already paid for these lunches, disregarding you still have 4 months to eat them, and not even asking if you would be able to redeem the lunches at the replacement venue of DUSTy-spoon, the grilled PHOENIX (working title).
My friend your asking the wrong questions for something you bought.
I get you want to use the in game medium that exists IN NAME ONLY between games, but its just not going to happen.
The rest of us pretty much can guarantee it.
I respect and admire your willingness to try, but your literal best bet is to file a support ticket and see what Archduke and the EVE team say.
Get why we're being sardonic and snarky now?
Much better than my analogy.
+1
"Solitude is not a burden; it is a gift, for independence allows us to realize our own potential."
Glantix / Ice
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V1RONXSS
X-SENSE Security
102
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Posted - 2016.02.07 10:09:00 -
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Shaun Iwairo wrote:It's kinda interesting watching all the people in the forums just now learning what microtransactions are.
and maybe read EULA for the 1st time.
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Tesfa Alem
Death by Disassociation
1
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Posted - 2016.02.07 11:54:00 -
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Hey tero, at least a discussion keeps this issue bumped.
Keeping in mind that there is going to be some sort of dust character tiered recognition for players for the next title,
CCP keeps track of your name, email account, and assets (such as the Dust Newsletter), not PSN
I think Aurum and Aurum bought assets that are applicable to the next game should be transferred. That would not only reward players and convince them to the sign up for next title, but also encourage players to spend more cash since they can trust in game assets will last.
Kerosinii makes a great point that Aurum is not soley a Dust Currency, but CCP currency bought for real money that is applicable across all of CCP's titles Gunjack, Valkyrie and Eve Online.
The only difference is the rates and what they buy.
Its like exhanging dollars for euros and then you find out you are in Greece. Buys different commodities for different prices, yet you can still go to France and spend the same currency.
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Shaun Iwairo
Simple Minded People Pty. Ltd.
488
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Posted - 2016.02.07 12:06:00 -
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Tesfa Alem wrote:
Kerosinii makes a great point that Aurum is not soley a Dust Currency, but CCP currency bought for real money that is applicable across all of CCP's titles Gunjack, Valkyrie and Eve Online.
The only difference is the rates and what they buy.
Its like exhanging dollars for euros and then you find out you are in Greece. Buys different commodities for different prices, yet you can still go to France and spend the same currency.
That is such a dishonest statement. You should be ashamed. Aurum in Dust was never ever advertised as a CCP-Games-wide currency that could be used on any of their games, and to ask them to start treating it like that now (when it most suits you) is a bloody disgrace.
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Tesfa Alem
Death by Disassociation
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Posted - 2016.02.07 14:39:00 -
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Shaun Iwairo wrote:Tesfa Alem wrote:
Kerosinii makes a great point that Aurum is not soley a Dust Currency, but CCP currency bought for real money that is applicable across all of CCP's titles Gunjack, Valkyrie and Eve Online.
The only difference is the rates and what they buy.
Its like exhanging dollars for euros and then you find out you are in Greece. Buys different commodities for different prices, yet you can still go to France and spend the same currency.
That is such a dishonest statement. You should be ashamed. Aurum in Dust was never ever advertised as a CCP-Games-wide currency that could be used on any of their games, and to ask them to start treating it like that now (when it most suits you) is a bloody disgrace.
Pull your head out of where the sun dont shine and read it again. Dont get upset over semantics and think.
Aurum is the real money bought currency of New Eden. Different games, different exchange rates, different items to buy but it is still in-game currency by the same name and purchase system across all the games bought for real world cash. You buy aurum from CCP on the PSN store for the same types of items, namely cosmetics and boosters as in Eve; not Dust514tm Ultra Special Credits.
What is the "bloody disgrace" about transferring it over especially to "Not project legion"? Especially since we have all of our account info on tranquility? Where is this massive injustice?
The only issue is that you are not allowed to tranfer aurum to other characters. If we get to keep our characters, why not keep the aurum that has already been paid for?
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Derpty Derp
Dead Man's Game
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Posted - 2016.02.07 16:18:00 -
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I think the people who kept Dust afloat, while knowing it was terrible (and being told it would potentially be fixed with enough funds) should definitely get something for their loyalty.
Maybe some free time in their other games... Lets be honest, these aren't really the people you'd want to screw over, as the more on-side they are, the more likely they'll continue to be paying customers in the future. |
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Takahiro Kashuken
Red Star.
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Posted - 2016.02.07 22:27:00 -
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My AUR is unused, it is unused money.
If i buy 40quid of AUR all that has happened is that my money has been converted to AUR, a different currency if you will.
The fact is AUR is worth something in whichever countries currency you bought it in, even if you spend half of your 40quid AUR packagae you still have 20quid of it left.
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KEROSIINI-TERO
Dead Man's Game
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Posted - 2016.02.08 04:11:00 -
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EULA has been mentioned.
Naturally, as per EULA, it is withing the game company's rights not to allow any form of reimbursement.
Yet, there is no harm in asking for a kind gesture (besides having to wade throught the swarms of imbeciles).
Someone made a very good pointing out that those who would benefit from the said gestrure would be the most loyal customers who really have made this game on the profitable side.
Sour level over 9000.
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KEROSIINI-TERO
Dead Man's Game
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Posted - 2016.02.08 04:14:00 -
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Besides, it would be a moderately nice marketing move to grant the transfer to another product of the same company:
That would be some incentive for non-eve dusters to actually try Eve Online, the ongoing product.
Now who's gonna argue with that it would be bad for CCP? Huh?
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Shaun Iwairo
Simple Minded People Pty. Ltd.
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Posted - 2016.02.08 04:54:00 -
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Takahiro Kashuken wrote:My AUR is unused, it is unused money.
If i buy 40quid of AUR all that has happened is that my money has been converted to AUR, a different currency if you will.
The fact is AUR is worth something in whichever countries currency you bought it in, even if you spend half of your 40quid AUR packagae you still have 20quid of it left.
CCP are not a bank, you havn't deposited money into Dust and just converted it to a different currency. You bought Aurum, they provided Aurum. What you did with the Aurum after that was up to you, but as far as CCP are concerned they gave you what you paid for and the transaction is closed.
Microtransaction money (in this case Aurum) is Monopoly money. It has no use outside a game.
If you are thinking of it as anything like a real currency then you are a very uninformed consumer.
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Maken Tosch
DUST University
Ivy League
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Posted - 2016.02.08 04:59:00 -
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KEROSIINI-TERO wrote:EULA has been mentioned.
Naturally, as per EULA, it is withing the game company's rights not to allow any form of reimbursement.
Yet, there is no harm in asking for a kind gesture (besides having to wade throught the swarms of imbeciles).
Someone made a very good pointing out that those who would benefit from the said gestrure would be the most loyal customers who really have made this game on the profitable side.
I guess it wouldn't hurt especially since now it is practically impossible to purchase new AUR. But as I said earlier, we must only count any unspent "purchased" AUR. Not "FREE" AUR like what we get from Daily Logins and special events since those don't technically count as unspent "money".
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Maken Tosch
DUST University
Ivy League
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Posted - 2016.02.08 05:13:00 -
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To anyone who calls for a reimbursement of AUR on any item they spent that AUR on is just being greedy. That is the equivalent of wanting to eat your cake and then having it. You can't have that cake if you already ate it.
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Takahiro Kashuken
Red Star.
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Posted - 2016.02.09 18:00:00 -
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Shaun Iwairo wrote:Takahiro Kashuken wrote:My AUR is unused, it is unused money.
If i buy 40quid of AUR all that has happened is that my money has been converted to AUR, a different currency if you will.
The fact is AUR is worth something in whichever countries currency you bought it in, even if you spend half of your 40quid AUR packagae you still have 20quid of it left.
CCP are not a bank, you havn't deposited money into Dust and just converted it to a different currency. You bought Aurum, they provided Aurum. What you did with the Aurum after that was up to you, but as far as CCP are concerned they gave you what you paid for and the transaction is closed. Microtransaction money (in this case Aurum) is Monopoly money. It has no use outside a game. If you are thinking of it as anything like a real currency then you are a very uninformed consumer.
To me it is unused.
I can say i have 100quid of AUR and that 1 penny will = x amount of AUR.
Does not matter what you say because that is how i view it, i have lost 160k of AUR roughly which will equal x amount of pounds and pence to me and that is what it is worth according to CCP who set the AUR to pounds ratio.
I do this with all my games, WoT 500 gold is worth 166pence which roughly is 3 gold to 1 pence.
I have lost this amount of AUR, even if i use it now i still lose it anyways, if it gets transfered great, if it doesnt well teaches me for believing in something.
What Kero is asking for is a goodwill gesture from CCP to everyone in the game, i back it because why not, nothing to lose and alot to gain.
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DiGreatDestroyer
Grupo de Asalto Chacal
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Posted - 2016.02.09 19:06:00 -
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Pokey Dravon wrote:All AUR ever purchased ever, would be used for things that would ultimately be useless at some point because the game could never last forever. So by that logic, all AUR I've ever spent should be compensated because the boosters I purchased produced SP that will ultimately be useless. Right? I guess that just doesn't make sense to me.
The game was supossed to last 10 years though, so what the OP is asking is fair.
Someone once said on the future of dust thread something along these lines:
"CCP doesnt sell us EVE, nor do they sell DUST. They sell New Eden."
We are someone in NE. This is not our money in Dust. This is the money we have in NE, and so we should be able to keep it past Dust-¦s death.
#KeepDustInThePS3
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Scotty AI MatchMaker
WarRavens
Imperium Eden
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Posted - 2016.02.09 19:14:00 -
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DiGreatDestroyer wrote:Pokey Dravon wrote:All AUR ever purchased ever, would be used for things that would ultimately be useless at some point because the game could never last forever. So by that logic, all AUR I've ever spent should be compensated because the boosters I purchased produced SP that will ultimately be useless. Right? I guess that just doesn't make sense to me. The game was supossed to last 10 years though, so what the OP is asking is fair. Someone once said on the future of dust thread something along these lines: "CCP doesnt sell us EVE, nor do they sell DUST. They sell New Eden." We are someone in NE. This is not our money in Dust. This is the money we have in NE, and so we should be able to keep it past Dust-¦s death.
there was never a ten year plan, it was an urban myth due to EvE actually have a ten year plan, doubt even ps-ú had a ten year plan xD
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DiGreatDestroyer
Grupo de Asalto Chacal
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Posted - 2016.02.09 19:52:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:Takahiro Kashuken wrote:I doubt chargeback works for purchese over a year ago though. Sony's fear of losing customers is so large that it can potentially enable some people to abuse that system. CCP doesn't have that fear and have often successfully fought back against chargebacks made by botters in Eve Online.
Well, this is obvious since Sony has a lot more to lose than CCP.
CCP might get in the bad books of people who dont deserve it though, and given CCPs record of broken promises, Im more willing to trust Sony.
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Maken Tosch
Dust University
Ivy League
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Posted - 2016.02.10 05:02:00 -
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DiGreatDestroyer wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:Takahiro Kashuken wrote:I doubt chargeback works for purchese over a year ago though. Sony's fear of losing customers is so large that it can potentially enable some people to abuse that system. CCP doesn't have that fear and have often successfully fought back against chargebacks made by botters in Eve Online. Well, this is obvious since Sony has a lot more to lose than CCP. CCP might get in the bad books of people who dont deserve it though, and given CCPs record of broken promises, Im more willing to trust Sony.
You might trust Sony financially but I suggest not trusting their service stability.
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Shaun Iwairo
Simple Minded People Pty. Ltd.
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Posted - 2016.02.10 05:57:00 -
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Takahiro Kashuken wrote:Shaun Iwairo wrote:Takahiro Kashuken wrote:My AUR is unused, it is unused money.
If i buy 40quid of AUR all that has happened is that my money has been converted to AUR, a different currency if you will.
The fact is AUR is worth something in whichever countries currency you bought it in, even if you spend half of your 40quid AUR packagae you still have 20quid of it left.
CCP are not a bank, you havn't deposited money into Dust and just converted it to a different currency. You bought Aurum, they provided Aurum. What you did with the Aurum after that was up to you, but as far as CCP are concerned they gave you what you paid for and the transaction is closed. Microtransaction money (in this case Aurum) is Monopoly money. It has no use outside a game. If you are thinking of it as anything like a real currency then you are a very uninformed consumer. To me it is unused. I can say i have 100quid of AUR and that 1 penny will = x amount of AUR. Does not matter what you say because that is how i view it, i have lost 160k of AUR roughly which will equal x amount of pounds and pence to me and that is what it is worth according to CCP who set the AUR to pounds ratio. I do this with all my games, WoT 500 gold is worth 166pence which roughly is 3 gold to 1 pence. I have lost this amount of AUR, even if i use it now i still lose it anyways, if it gets transfered great, if it doesnt well teaches me for believing in something. What Kero is asking for is a goodwill gesture from CCP to everyone in the game, i back it because why not, nothing to lose and alot to gain.
I'm sorry that you view microtransaction gems as holding any monetary value after their purchase and I hope you get a better understanding of their actual value some time soon.
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