DUST Search - [REQUEST:] Transfer unused AURUM to Eve

Ice Royal Glantix wrote:

Unused aurum is not unused money. Your money was used. You used it purchase aurum. Don't make it sound like you didn't actually use your money, because you did, and got exactly what you paid for.

Also, everytime you made a purchase, surely you were aware that game wasn't going to be around forever. Every penny should have been spent under the assumption that it would eventually be for nothing.

I don't think there is a need for a transfer. Even if there was, it would be a huge pain in the ass for CCP to transfer the aurum over, as they have no way of telling which Eve characters and Dust characters are owned by the same person. Your best bet is to try a help ticket, but I doubt you will get what you want, as you don't really deserve it.

Also, I don't quite like your analogy.

KEROSIINI-TERO wrote:

Soldner VonKuechle wrote:

I bet you're the kind of people that biitch about a steak being done improperly after you've eaten the whole thing, while expecting your meal to be comp'ed.

Talking to me? Surely not, but in case you were:
No, definately not.
But, I'm the person who complains if a restaurant sells pre-paid lunch cards of ten and after using just two of those lunches, announces they are no longer open at lunch time at all. Then I would ask for reimbursement for those UNEATEN, NOT EATEN, UNUSED, lunches.

Maybe I should clarify the uneaten part more???

Dust is more like a restaurant that has free steaks and sells really tasty barbecue sauce. You bought a lot of barbecue sauce, but the resteraunt is going to close in four months.

Instead of just putting the barbecue sauce you bought on the steaks at this resteraunt, you want the resteraunt to spend much time and effort changing their BBQ sauce recipe so it tastes good with a different restaurant's steaks.

At least, that's how I see it. Maybe you shouldn't have spent so much on barbecue sauce that you weren't ready to eat.

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Ice Royal Glantix 0.P. 397	Posted - 2016.02.07 01:32:00 - [31] - Quote Unused aurum is not unused money. Your money was used. You used it purchase aurum. Don't make it sound like you didn't actually use your money, because you did, and got exactly what you paid for. Also, everytime you made a purchase, surely you were aware that game wasn't going to be around forever. Every penny should have been spent under the assumption that it would eventually be for nothing. I don't think there is a need for a transfer. Even if there was, it would be a huge pain in the ass for CCP to transfer the aurum over, as they have no way of telling which Eve characters and Dust characters are owned by the same person. Your best bet is to try a help ticket, but I doubt you will get what you want, as you don't really deserve it. Also, I don't quite like your analogy. KEROSIINI-TERO wrote: Soldner VonKuechle wrote: I bet you're the kind of people that biitch about a steak being done improperly after you've eaten the whole thing, while expecting your meal to be comp'ed. Talking to me? Surely not, but in case you were: No, definately not. But, I'm the person who complains if a restaurant sells pre-paid lunch cards of ten and after using just two of those lunches, announces they are no longer open at lunch time at all. Then I would ask for reimbursement for those UNEATEN, NOT EATEN, UNUSED, lunches. Maybe I should clarify the uneaten part more??? Dust is more like a restaurant that has free steaks and sells really tasty barbecue sauce. You bought a lot of barbecue sauce, but the resteraunt is going to close in four months. Instead of just putting the barbecue sauce you bought on the steaks at this resteraunt, you want the resteraunt to spend much time and effort changing their BBQ sauce recipe so it tastes good with a different restaurant's steaks. At least, that's how I see it. Maybe you shouldn't have spent so much on barbecue sauce that you weren't ready to eat. "Solitude is not a burden; it is a gift, for independence allows us to realize our own potential." Glantix / Ice
KEROSIINI-TERO Dead Man's Game 2	Posted - 2016.02.07 02:40:00 - [32] - Quote Ice Royal Glantix wrote: Unused aurum is not unused money. Your money was used. You used it purchase aurum. Don't make it sound like you didn't actually use your money, because you did, and got exactly what you paid for. Also, everytime you made a purchase, surely you were aware that game wasn't going to be around forever. Every penny should have been spent under the assumption that it would eventually be for nothing. I don't think there is a need for a transfer. Even if there was, it would be a huge pain in the ass for CCP to transfer the aurum over, as they have no way of telling which Eve characters and Dust characters are owned by the same person. Your best bet is to try a help ticket, but I doubt you will get what you want, as you don't really deserve it. Also, I don't quite like your analogy. KEROSIINI-TERO wrote: Soldner VonKuechle wrote: I bet you're the kind of people that biitch about a steak being done improperly after you've eaten the whole thing, while expecting your meal to be comp'ed. Talking to me? Surely not, but in case you were: No, definately not. But, I'm the person who complains if a restaurant sells pre-paid lunch cards of ten and after using just two of those lunches, announces they are no longer open at lunch time at all. Then I would ask for reimbursement for those UNEATEN, NOT EATEN, UNUSED, lunches. Maybe I should clarify the uneaten part more??? Dust is more like a restaurant that has free steaks and sells really tasty barbecue sauce. You bought a lot of barbecue sauce, but the resteraunt is going to close in four months. Instead of just putting the barbecue sauce you bought on the steaks at this resteraunt, you want the resteraunt to spend much time and effort changing their BBQ sauce recipe so it tastes good with a different restaurant's steaks. At least, that's how I see it. Maybe you shouldn't have spent so much on barbecue sauce that you weren't ready to eat. Well I didn't like the first steak analogy. You should dislike that first. Unused aurum isn't unused money on my wallet. Unused aurum is unused aurum. Well daa-aa. Not so difficult. Again, why are you doing the game companys explaining here? Let them do it. If there is a minor chance that a small part of purchase, in an unused in-game purchase medium, could be transferred to a comparative medium in a same companys alternative product, why should not ask for it? Why battle it? Sour level over 9000. KERO-TRADER is my official Eve character for Dust trading.
benandjerrys WarRavens Imperium Eden 1	Posted - 2016.02.07 04:11:00 - [33] - Quote Payouts based on current incentive rank. Something rather low and innocuous not to exceed $100. The butthurt is strong #bringbackjadek
Soldner VonKuechle SAM-MIK General Tso's Alliance 2	Posted - 2016.02.07 04:17:00 - [34] - Quote Alright, let's go with your lunches model. You still have 8 lunches left on your non-refundable lunch card, out of 10. The restaurant is a nice little 20 seater dinner, spotty service, goofy hours but amazing food and pretty baller regulars. The DUSTy-spoon tells you that they're closing in 4 months for an unknown amount of time to rebuild the place, better, more up to code. You have 4 months to burn through those non refundable lunches. You are unsatisfied with such a prospect, so are now arguing that since you already paid for the lunches at the DUSTy-spoon, you should be able to use them at the owners other establishment, mid-summer nights EVE; a high class sit down three course meal dining establishment. You continue to ask that it hould be possible on merit because you already paid for these lunches, disregarding you still have 4 months to eat them, and not even asking if you would be able to redeem the lunches at the replacement venue of DUSTy-spoon, the grilled PHOENIX (working title). My friend your asking the wrong questions for something you bought. I get you want to use the in game medium that exists IN NAME ONLY between games, but its just not going to happen. The rest of us pretty much can guarantee it. I respect and admire your willingness to try, but your literal best bet is to file a support ticket and see what Archduke and the EVE team say. Get why we're being sardonic and snarky now? Congressional staffers are more intelligent than the people I find on these forums.
Ice Royal Glantix 0.P. 397	Posted - 2016.02.07 06:45:00 - [35] - Quote Soldner VonKuechle wrote: Alright, let's go with your lunches model. You still have 8 lunches left on your non-refundable lunch card, out of 10. The restaurant is a nice little 20 seater dinner, spotty service, goofy hours but amazing food and pretty baller regulars. The DUSTy-spoon tells you that they're closing in 4 months for an unknown amount of time to rebuild the place, better, more up to code. You have 4 months to burn through those non refundable lunches. You are unsatisfied with such a prospect, so are now arguing that since you already paid for the lunches at the DUSTy-spoon, you should be able to use them at the owners other establishment, mid-summer nights EVE; a high class sit down three course meal dining establishment. You continue to ask that it hould be possible on merit because you already paid for these lunches, disregarding you still have 4 months to eat them, and not even asking if you would be able to redeem the lunches at the replacement venue of DUSTy-spoon, the grilled PHOENIX (working title). My friend your asking the wrong questions for something you bought. I get you want to use the in game medium that exists IN NAME ONLY between games, but its just not going to happen. The rest of us pretty much can guarantee it. I respect and admire your willingness to try, but your literal best bet is to file a support ticket and see what Archduke and the EVE team say. Get why we're being sardonic and snarky now? Much better than my analogy. +1 "Solitude is not a burden; it is a gift, for independence allows us to realize our own potential." Glantix / Ice
V1RONXSS X-SENSE Security 102	Posted - 2016.02.07 10:09:00 - [36] - Quote Shaun Iwairo wrote: It's kinda interesting watching all the people in the forums just now learning what microtransactions are. and maybe read EULA for the 1st time. "Chiki Briki v Damki" Starter Pack. o7
Tesfa Alem Death by Disassociation 1	Posted - 2016.02.07 11:54:00 - [37] - Quote Hey tero, at least a discussion keeps this issue bumped. Keeping in mind that there is going to be some sort of dust character tiered recognition for players for the next title, CCP keeps track of your name, email account, and assets (such as the Dust Newsletter), not PSN I think Aurum and Aurum bought assets that are applicable to the next game should be transferred. That would not only reward players and convince them to the sign up for next title, but also encourage players to spend more cash since they can trust in game assets will last. Kerosinii makes a great point that Aurum is not soley a Dust Currency, but CCP currency bought for real money that is applicable across all of CCP's titles Gunjack, Valkyrie and Eve Online. The only difference is the rates and what they buy. Its like exhanging dollars for euros and then you find out you are in Greece. Buys different commodities for different prices, yet you can still go to France and spend the same currency. Redline for Thee, but no Redline for Me. "all these moments lost...Like tears in rain..." RIP Dust 514
Shaun Iwairo Simple Minded People Pty. Ltd. 488	Posted - 2016.02.07 12:06:00 - [38] - Quote Tesfa Alem wrote: Kerosinii makes a great point that Aurum is not soley a Dust Currency, but CCP currency bought for real money that is applicable across all of CCP's titles Gunjack, Valkyrie and Eve Online. The only difference is the rates and what they buy. Its like exhanging dollars for euros and then you find out you are in Greece. Buys different commodities for different prices, yet you can still go to France and spend the same currency. That is such a dishonest statement. You should be ashamed. Aurum in Dust was never ever advertised as a CCP-Games-wide currency that could be used on any of their games, and to ask them to start treating it like that now (when it most suits you) is a bloody disgrace. Something is killing new player retention.
Tesfa Alem Death by Disassociation 1	Posted - 2016.02.07 14:39:00 - [39] - Quote Shaun Iwairo wrote: Tesfa Alem wrote: Kerosinii makes a great point that Aurum is not soley a Dust Currency, but CCP currency bought for real money that is applicable across all of CCP's titles Gunjack, Valkyrie and Eve Online. The only difference is the rates and what they buy. Its like exhanging dollars for euros and then you find out you are in Greece. Buys different commodities for different prices, yet you can still go to France and spend the same currency. That is such a dishonest statement. You should be ashamed. Aurum in Dust was never ever advertised as a CCP-Games-wide currency that could be used on any of their games, and to ask them to start treating it like that now (when it most suits you) is a bloody disgrace. Pull your head out of where the sun dont shine and read it again. Dont get upset over semantics and think. Aurum is the real money bought currency of New Eden. Different games, different exchange rates, different items to buy but it is still in-game currency by the same name and purchase system across all the games bought for real world cash. You buy aurum from CCP on the PSN store for the same types of items, namely cosmetics and boosters as in Eve; not Dust514tm Ultra Special Credits. What is the "bloody disgrace" about transferring it over especially to "Not project legion"? Especially since we have all of our account info on tranquility? Where is this massive injustice? The only issue is that you are not allowed to tranfer aurum to other characters. If we get to keep our characters, why not keep the aurum that has already been paid for? Redline for Thee, but no Redline for Me. "all these moments lost...Like tears in rain..." RIP Dust 514
Derpty Derp Dead Man's Game 1	Posted - 2016.02.07 16:18:00 - [40] - Quote I think the people who kept Dust afloat, while knowing it was terrible (and being told it would potentially be fixed with enough funds) should definitely get something for their loyalty. Maybe some free time in their other games... Lets be honest, these aren't really the people you'd want to screw over, as the more on-side they are, the more likely they'll continue to be paying customers in the future.

Takahiro Kashuken Red Star. 4	Posted - 2016.02.07 22:27:00 - [41] - Quote My AUR is unused, it is unused money. If i buy 40quid of AUR all that has happened is that my money has been converted to AUR, a different currency if you will. The fact is AUR is worth something in whichever countries currency you bought it in, even if you spend half of your 40quid AUR packagae you still have 20quid of it left. CCP Rattati - "One giant vehicle nerf with more power to AV", you have got to be kidding...''
KEROSIINI-TERO Dead Man's Game 2	Posted - 2016.02.08 04:11:00 - [42] - Quote EULA has been mentioned. Naturally, as per EULA, it is withing the game company's rights not to allow any form of reimbursement. Yet, there is no harm in asking for a kind gesture (besides having to wade throught the swarms of imbeciles). Someone made a very good pointing out that those who would benefit from the said gestrure would be the most loyal customers who really have made this game on the profitable side. Sour level over 9000. KERO-TRADER is my official Eve character for Dust trading.
KEROSIINI-TERO Dead Man's Game 2	Posted - 2016.02.08 04:14:00 - [43] - Quote Besides, it would be a moderately nice marketing move to grant the transfer to another product of the same company: That would be some incentive for non-eve dusters to actually try Eve Online, the ongoing product. Now who's gonna argue with that it would be bad for CCP? Huh? Sour level over 9000. KERO-TRADER is my official Eve character for Dust trading.
Shaun Iwairo Simple Minded People Pty. Ltd. 491	Posted - 2016.02.08 04:54:00 - [44] - Quote Takahiro Kashuken wrote: My AUR is unused, it is unused money. If i buy 40quid of AUR all that has happened is that my money has been converted to AUR, a different currency if you will. The fact is AUR is worth something in whichever countries currency you bought it in, even if you spend half of your 40quid AUR packagae you still have 20quid of it left. CCP are not a bank, you havn't deposited money into Dust and just converted it to a different currency. You bought Aurum, they provided Aurum. What you did with the Aurum after that was up to you, but as far as CCP are concerned they gave you what you paid for and the transaction is closed. Microtransaction money (in this case Aurum) is Monopoly money. It has no use outside a game. If you are thinking of it as anything like a real currency then you are a very uninformed consumer. Something is killing new player retention.
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 12	Posted - 2016.02.08 04:59:00 - [45] - Quote KEROSIINI-TERO wrote: EULA has been mentioned. Naturally, as per EULA, it is withing the game company's rights not to allow any form of reimbursement. Yet, there is no harm in asking for a kind gesture (besides having to wade throught the swarms of imbeciles). Someone made a very good pointing out that those who would benefit from the said gestrure would be the most loyal customers who really have made this game on the profitable side. I guess it wouldn't hurt especially since now it is practically impossible to purchase new AUR. But as I said earlier, we must only count any unspent "purchased" AUR. Not "FREE" AUR like what we get from Daily Logins and special events since those don't technically count as unspent "money". Eve Online Invite https://secure.eveonline.com/trial/?invc=ed64524f-15ca-4997-ab92-eaae0af74b7f&action=buddy
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 12	Posted - 2016.02.08 05:13:00 - [46] - Quote To anyone who calls for a reimbursement of AUR on any item they spent that AUR on is just being greedy. That is the equivalent of wanting to eat your cake and then having it. You can't have that cake if you already ate it. Eve Online Invite https://secure.eveonline.com/trial/?invc=ed64524f-15ca-4997-ab92-eaae0af74b7f&action=buddy
Takahiro Kashuken Red Star. 4	Posted - 2016.02.09 18:00:00 - [47] - Quote Shaun Iwairo wrote: Takahiro Kashuken wrote: My AUR is unused, it is unused money. If i buy 40quid of AUR all that has happened is that my money has been converted to AUR, a different currency if you will. The fact is AUR is worth something in whichever countries currency you bought it in, even if you spend half of your 40quid AUR packagae you still have 20quid of it left. CCP are not a bank, you havn't deposited money into Dust and just converted it to a different currency. You bought Aurum, they provided Aurum. What you did with the Aurum after that was up to you, but as far as CCP are concerned they gave you what you paid for and the transaction is closed. Microtransaction money (in this case Aurum) is Monopoly money. It has no use outside a game. If you are thinking of it as anything like a real currency then you are a very uninformed consumer. To me it is unused. I can say i have 100quid of AUR and that 1 penny will = x amount of AUR. Does not matter what you say because that is how i view it, i have lost 160k of AUR roughly which will equal x amount of pounds and pence to me and that is what it is worth according to CCP who set the AUR to pounds ratio. I do this with all my games, WoT 500 gold is worth 166pence which roughly is 3 gold to 1 pence. I have lost this amount of AUR, even if i use it now i still lose it anyways, if it gets transfered great, if it doesnt well teaches me for believing in something. What Kero is asking for is a goodwill gesture from CCP to everyone in the game, i back it because why not, nothing to lose and alot to gain. CCP Rattati - "One giant vehicle nerf with more power to AV", you have got to be kidding...''
DiGreatDestroyer Grupo de Asalto Chacal 339	Posted - 2016.02.09 19:06:00 - [48] - Quote Pokey Dravon wrote: All AUR ever purchased ever, would be used for things that would ultimately be useless at some point because the game could never last forever. So by that logic, all AUR I've ever spent should be compensated because the boosters I purchased produced SP that will ultimately be useless. Right? I guess that just doesn't make sense to me. The game was supossed to last 10 years though, so what the OP is asking is fair. Someone once said on the future of dust thread something along these lines: "CCP doesnt sell us EVE, nor do they sell DUST. They sell New Eden." We are someone in NE. This is not our money in Dust. This is the money we have in NE, and so we should be able to keep it past Dust-¦s death. #KeepDustInThePS3 "Laser-focused" -----------"10 year plan"
Scotty AI MatchMaker WarRavens Imperium Eden 469	Posted - 2016.02.09 19:14:00 - [49] - Quote DiGreatDestroyer wrote: Pokey Dravon wrote: All AUR ever purchased ever, would be used for things that would ultimately be useless at some point because the game could never last forever. So by that logic, all AUR I've ever spent should be compensated because the boosters I purchased produced SP that will ultimately be useless. Right? I guess that just doesn't make sense to me. The game was supossed to last 10 years though, so what the OP is asking is fair. Someone once said on the future of dust thread something along these lines: "CCP doesnt sell us EVE, nor do they sell DUST. They sell New Eden." We are someone in NE. This is not our money in Dust. This is the money we have in NE, and so we should be able to keep it past Dust-¦s death. there was never a ten year plan, it was an urban myth due to EvE actually have a ten year plan, doubt even ps-ú had a ten year plan xD God damn it Jim I'm a doctor not a lag expert! CCP know me as character/2104011395
DiGreatDestroyer Grupo de Asalto Chacal 339	Posted - 2016.02.09 19:52:00 - [50] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: Takahiro Kashuken wrote: I doubt chargeback works for purchese over a year ago though. Sony's fear of losing customers is so large that it can potentially enable some people to abuse that system. CCP doesn't have that fear and have often successfully fought back against chargebacks made by botters in Eve Online. Well, this is obvious since Sony has a lot more to lose than CCP. CCP might get in the bad books of people who dont deserve it though, and given CCPs record of broken promises, Im more willing to trust Sony. #KeepDustInThePS3 "Laser-focused" -----------"10 year plan"

Maken Tosch Dust University Ivy League 12	Posted - 2016.02.10 05:02:00 - [51] - Quote DiGreatDestroyer wrote: Maken Tosch wrote: Takahiro Kashuken wrote: I doubt chargeback works for purchese over a year ago though. Sony's fear of losing customers is so large that it can potentially enable some people to abuse that system. CCP doesn't have that fear and have often successfully fought back against chargebacks made by botters in Eve Online. Well, this is obvious since Sony has a lot more to lose than CCP. CCP might get in the bad books of people who dont deserve it though, and given CCPs record of broken promises, Im more willing to trust Sony. You might trust Sony financially but I suggest not trusting their service stability. Eve Online Invite https://secure.eveonline.com/trial/?invc=ed64524f-15ca-4997-ab92-eaae0af74b7f&action=buddy
Shaun Iwairo Simple Minded People Pty. Ltd. 499	Posted - 2016.02.10 05:57:00 - [52] - Quote Takahiro Kashuken wrote: Shaun Iwairo wrote: Takahiro Kashuken wrote: My AUR is unused, it is unused money. If i buy 40quid of AUR all that has happened is that my money has been converted to AUR, a different currency if you will. The fact is AUR is worth something in whichever countries currency you bought it in, even if you spend half of your 40quid AUR packagae you still have 20quid of it left. CCP are not a bank, you havn't deposited money into Dust and just converted it to a different currency. You bought Aurum, they provided Aurum. What you did with the Aurum after that was up to you, but as far as CCP are concerned they gave you what you paid for and the transaction is closed. Microtransaction money (in this case Aurum) is Monopoly money. It has no use outside a game. If you are thinking of it as anything like a real currency then you are a very uninformed consumer. To me it is unused. I can say i have 100quid of AUR and that 1 penny will = x amount of AUR. Does not matter what you say because that is how i view it, i have lost 160k of AUR roughly which will equal x amount of pounds and pence to me and that is what it is worth according to CCP who set the AUR to pounds ratio. I do this with all my games, WoT 500 gold is worth 166pence which roughly is 3 gold to 1 pence. I have lost this amount of AUR, even if i use it now i still lose it anyways, if it gets transfered great, if it doesnt well teaches me for believing in something. What Kero is asking for is a goodwill gesture from CCP to everyone in the game, i back it because why not, nothing to lose and alot to gain. I'm sorry that you view microtransaction gems as holding any monetary value after their purchase and I hope you get a better understanding of their actual value some time soon. Something is killing new player retention.


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