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KEROSIINI-TERO Dead Man's Game 2	Posted - 2016.02.06 02:28:00 - [1] - Quote Those players who have UNUSED AURUM should have it transferred (with appropriate ratio, ofc) to Eve Online. That is real money given to CCP, and as AUR is just a form of unused money, it should not be zeroed when the Dust ends. It is not realistic to request transfer to Legion/Legion2, as it is only theoretical and years away, plus there should not be any gap in client-provider relationship (which would happen). This is a very sensible request. Please support it, and CCP please consider it. Thank you. "Cut cut cut - Trim trim trim!" KERO-TRADER is my official Eve character for Dust trading.
Pokey Dravon OSG Planetary Operations 7	Posted - 2016.02.06 02:30:00 - [2] - Quote You do know you have almost 4 months to use whatever AUR you have left... EVE: Phoenix - 'Rise Again' Trailer
Viktor Hadah Jr 0uter.Heaven 10	Posted - 2016.02.06 02:32:00 - [3] - Quote I forget my pricing for EVE Aur. because lolEVEAUR But i believe in dust you can get 40,000 AUR for 20$ when in EVE you can only get 4,000. They would need to do some adjustment but i agree it would be a good gesture. I stop playing video games, I don't "retire" Buying dead and inactive corporations
KEROSIINI-TERO Dead Man's Game 2	Posted - 2016.02.06 02:32:00 - [4] - Quote Pokey Dravon wrote: You do know you have almost 4 months to use whatever AUR you have left... Ahem. For a skin which disappears? For boosters which' effect disappears? Unused money is unused money. Announcement of ending of service is proper cause to ask for reparative action - although not monetary refund. "Cut cut cut - Trim trim trim!" KERO-TRADER is my official Eve character for Dust trading.
KEROSIINI-TERO Dead Man's Game 2	Posted - 2016.02.06 02:34:00 - [5] - Quote Viktor Hadah Jr wrote: I forget my pricing for EVE Aur. because lolEVEAUR But i believe in dust you can get 40,000 AUR for 20$ when in EVE you can only get 4,000. They would need to do some adjustment but i agree it would be a good gesture. OF COURSE with adjustments. Who here was asking for 1:1? In winter-spring 2013 they multiplied all the prices and AUR amounts by 10x in order to have better granularity in Dust item prices. Before that, the prices were pretty much comparative. "Cut cut cut - Trim trim trim!" KERO-TRADER is my official Eve character for Dust trading.
Murder Medic Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic 582	Posted - 2016.02.06 02:35:00 - [6] - Quote KEROSIINI-TERO wrote: Pokey Dravon wrote: You do know you have almost 4 months to use whatever AUR you have left... Ahem. For a skin which disappears? For boosters which' effect disappears? Unused money is unused money. Announcement of ending of service is proper cause to ask for reparative action - although not monetary refund. I'm very curious to see how CCP handles this. They have a habit of burning us though, but who knows. Farewell DUST
Viktor Hadah Jr 0uter.Heaven 10	Posted - 2016.02.06 02:37:00 - [7] - Quote Pokey Dravon wrote: You do know you have almost 4 months to use whatever AUR you have left... Wait, AUR has use? I stop playing video games, I don't "retire" Buying dead and inactive corporations
Pokey Dravon OSG Planetary Operations 7	Posted - 2016.02.06 02:53:00 - [8] - Quote All AUR ever purchased ever, would be used for things that would ultimately be useless at some point because the game could never last forever. So by that logic, all AUR I've ever spent should be compensated because the boosters I purchased produced SP that will ultimately be useless. Right? I guess that just doesn't make sense to me. EVE: Phoenix - 'Rise Again' Trailer
KEROSIINI-TERO Dead Man's Game 2	Posted - 2016.02.06 03:05:00 - [9] - Quote Pokey Dravon wrote: All AUR ever purchased ever, would be used for things that would ultimately be useless at some point because the game could never last forever. So by that logic, all AUR I've ever spent should be compensated because the boosters I purchased produced SP that will ultimately be useless. Right? I guess that just doesn't make sense to me. You are just wanting to view it like that. "Cut cut cut - Trim trim trim!" KERO-TRADER is my official Eve character for Dust trading.
Pokey Dravon OSG Planetary Operations 7	Posted - 2016.02.06 03:07:00 - [10] - Quote Well no Im curious. I mean....if I bought AUR and then a booster the day before the announcement, would I not be eligble for a refund? But if I bought a booster the day after the announcement, would I be eligible for the refund? At what point is AUR spent "wasted" vs "not wasted"? Like, what would the cutoff be in your mind? EVE: Phoenix - 'Rise Again' Trailer

Shaun Iwairo Simple Minded People Pty. Ltd. 470	Posted - 2016.02.06 03:10:00 - [11] - Quote It's kinda interesting watching all the people in the forums just now learning what microtransactions are. Something is killing new player retention.
KEROSIINI-TERO Dead Man's Game 2	Posted - 2016.02.06 03:19:00 - [12] - Quote Pokey Dravon wrote: Well no Im curious. I mean....if I bought AUR and then a booster the day before the announcement, would I not be eligible for a refund? But if I bought a booster the day after the announcement, would I be eligible for the refund? At what point is AUR spent "wasted" vs "not wasted"? Like, what would the cutoff be in your mind? I don't care about goods and services bought with aurum. I don't care about my 100+ Omega Boosters - they are all lost and that is good. I have only a little pocket AUR left. I am not advocating a real life money refund, that would be lololololloo lollero. I AM advocating transfer of unused medium of real life money - the AUR. Which is in an environment managed by a corporation called CCP, which also has another linked environment called Eve, which has similar medium for similar purpose in there. The Eve AUR. "Cut cut cut - Trim trim trim!" KERO-TRADER is my official Eve character for Dust trading.
KEROSIINI-TERO Dead Man's Game 2	Posted - 2016.02.06 03:21:00 - [13] - Quote Shaun Iwairo wrote: It's kinda interesting watching all the people in the forums just now learning what microtransactions are. Before giving you the rude answer: The suggestion is about doing the said micro transactions in another game by the same company, instead of a discontinued one. Or are you willing to act more stupid than you probably aren't? "Cut cut cut - Trim trim trim!" KERO-TRADER is my official Eve character for Dust trading.
Mobius Wyvern Fatal Absolution Bleeding Sun Conglomerate 7	Posted - 2016.02.06 03:55:00 - [14] - Quote I'm afraid the End User License Agreement already has them covered there. Amidst the blue skies A link from past to future The sheltering wings of the protector
Shaun Iwairo Simple Minded People Pty. Ltd. 472	Posted - 2016.02.06 04:01:00 - [15] - Quote KEROSIINI-TERO wrote: Shaun Iwairo wrote: It's kinda interesting watching all the people in the forums just now learning what microtransactions are. Before giving you the rude answer: The suggestion is about doing the said micro transactions in another game by the same company, instead of a discontinued one. Or are you willing to act more stupid than you probably aren't? From CCPs perspective, Dust Aurum funds Dust payroll and Eve Aurum (helps to) fund Eve payroll. If you bring a bunch of Dust Aurum into Eve (even at the adjusted rate), you will reduce the amount of Eve Aurum that is bought until all the Dust Aurum is consumed. It's hard for me to explain but all the cash from Dust Aurum is likely already budgeted for in Shanghai and thus 'spent'. The same goes for Eve Aurum, but what you're suggesting would reduce the amount of cash from Eve Aurum purchases and in turn put a hole in the Eve budget. Something is killing new player retention.
Murder Medic Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic 582	Posted - 2016.02.06 04:17:00 - [16] - Quote Mobius Wyvern wrote: I'm afraid the End User License Agreement already has them covered there. That's certainly clear, this is just one of those good will kind of things. Do they just slam the door in paying customers faces, tell them to switch systems, and hope they come back to spending more money? After all, CCP was the one that billed this game as a persisitent MMOFPS set in the EVE universe, with a 10 year plan and certainly no chance of a DUST 514-2 CCP is absolutely within their legal rights to say ** you, you get what you paid for, now buy more AUR. Or they could try to find a way to carry purchases from this game into the next, since they, while different, are in essence the same game. That all said, CCP has shown time and time again that they really just don't give a ** what we think, and will do what CCP will do regardless. I'm just glad I stopped purchasing AUR a long time ago. Farewell DUST
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 12	Posted - 2016.02.06 04:21:00 - [17] - Quote CCP should only count the amount of unspent AUR that was obtained through the PSN store. That should be relatively easy to compute by subtracting the amount of unspent AUR that was gained for free through daily logins and events from the remainder. Eve Online Invite https://secure.eveonline.com/trial/?invc=ed64524f-15ca-4997-ab92-eaae0af74b7f&action=buddy
Scotty AI MatchMaker WarRavens Imperium Eden 463	Posted - 2016.02.06 04:58:00 - [18] - Quote KEROSIINI-TERO wrote: Those players who have UNUSED AURUM should have it transferred (with appropriate ratio, ofc) to Eve Online. That is real money given to CCP, and as AUR is just a form of unused money, it should not be zeroed when the Dust ends. It is not realistic to request transfer to Legion/Legion2, as it is only theoretical and years away, plus there should not be any gap in client-provider relationship (which would happen). This is a very sensible request. Please support it, and CCP please consider it. Thank you. Isnt Aur a hell of a lot cheaper on Dust than it is EvE? It would never happen no matter how much you want that new ships skin God damn it Jim I'm a doctor not a lag expert!
LOOKMOM NOHANDS 571	Posted - 2016.02.06 09:47:00 - [19] - Quote KEROSIINI-TERO wrote: Those players who have UNUSED AURUM should have it transferred (with appropriate ratio, ofc) to Eve Online. That is real money given to CCP, and as AUR is just a form of unused money, it should not be zeroed when the Dust ends. It is not realistic to request transfer to Legion/Legion2, as it is only theoretical and years away, plus there should not be any gap in client-provider relationship (which would happen). This is a very sensible request. Please support it, and CCP please consider it. Thank you. I think they should sell us plex for Dust ISK and let us cash out. I seriously regret keeping billions piled up in my wallet on Dust. Even at the last exchange rates I could pay for almost a year on my Eve subscription with what is now forever gone on my Dust toon. As much as I said Dust is going to die I decided to keep a good deal of money Dust side due to some glimmer of hope. That gamble has now cost me a fair amount of money.
KEROSIINI-TERO Dead Man's Game 2	Posted - 2016.02.06 12:28:00 - [20] - Quote Shaun Iwairo wrote: From CCPs perspective, Dust Aurum funds Dust payroll and Eve Aurum (helps to) fund Eve payroll. If you bring a bunch of Dust Aurum into Eve (even at the adjusted rate), you will reduce the amount of Eve Aurum that is bought until all the Dust Aurum is consumed. It's hard for me to explain but all the cash from Dust Aurum is likely already budgeted for in Shanghai and thus 'spent'. The same goes for Eve Aurum, but what you're suggesting would reduce the amount of cash from Eve Aurum purchases and in turn put a hole in the Eve budget. That's why it's prudent to ask for a change in that. "Cut cut cut - Trim trim trim!" KERO-TRADER is my official Eve character for Dust trading.

KEROSIINI-TERO Dead Man's Game 2	Posted - 2016.02.06 12:30:00 - [21] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: CCP should only count the amount of unspent AUR that was obtained through the PSN store. That should be relatively easy to compute by subtracting the amount of unspent AUR that was gained for free through daily logins and events from the remainder. Oh damn forgot those dailies 0\ "Cut cut cut - Trim trim trim!" KERO-TRADER is my official Eve character for Dust trading.
KEROSIINI-TERO Dead Man's Game 2	Posted - 2016.02.06 12:32:00 - [22] - Quote Scotty AI MatchMaker wrote: Isnt Aur a hell of a lot cheaper on Dust than it is EvE? It would never happen no matter how much you want that new ships skin it is 10x cheaper because of January 2013. Why would a 1:1 reparation be the only option? "Cut cut cut - Trim trim trim!" KERO-TRADER is my official Eve character for Dust trading.
Takahiro Kashuken Red Star. 4	Posted - 2016.02.06 13:20:00 - [23] - Quote AUR bought is money spent either way but if you have AUR leftover then that is money unspent and unused in the game. No point using it now when the game will end since i do expect everything to be deleted apart from my name. I have just under 160k of AUR which i will never use atm but if they do a transfer to the new game i get no real advantage from the get go in comparision to if they transfered my 102mil of SP or my 670mil ISK balance. All i get is my AUR back to respend in the new game, that is no including all the AUR i bought and spent over the lifetime of this game which i do considered lost since i did use it. If anything it would be more of a goodwill gesture if CCP did this and would also not upset the balance of the new like SP/ISK would. CCP Rattati - "One giant vehicle nerf with more power to AV", you have got to be kidding...''
LOOKMOM NOHANDS 571	Posted - 2016.02.06 13:26:00 - [24] - Quote Just spend it all you will get a shiny badge in the new game that says your loyalty rank from this game. That is assuming you actually still remember CCP in 2025 when they finally release the so called new game. This new game is in "early stages of development" WoD was in "early stages of development" for 10 years before it got canned. Dust never even made it out of beta, it just had the label changed because Sony forced them too. This is CCP we are talking about. Delivery is not something they accomplish well. My guess is a 5 minute trailer at the upcoming fanfest followed by a solid year of silence.
Takahiro Kashuken Red Star. 4	Posted - 2016.02.06 23:40:00 - [25] - Quote I doubt chargeback works for purchese over a year ago though. CCP Rattati - "One giant vehicle nerf with more power to AV", you have got to be kidding...''
Soldner VonKuechle SAM-MIK General Tso's Alliance 2	Posted - 2016.02.07 00:10:00 - [26] - Quote I bet you're the kind of people that biitch about a steak being done improperly after you've eaten the whole thing, while expecting your meal to be comp'ed. Like usual, the forums went full r-tard with the news.
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 12	Posted - 2016.02.07 00:43:00 - [27] - Quote Takahiro Kashuken wrote: I doubt chargeback works for purchese over a year ago though. That's another thing about the New Eden FPS for PC. CCP can directly challenge any chargebacks and they have the balls to do that. Sony of course is too scardy cat to challenge any chargebacks and give in too easily to consumer requests for refunds. Don't get me wrong though. If you see that you are clearly wronged as a customer, you deserve a refund. But the Sony's fear of losing customers is so large that it can potentially enable some people to abuse that system. CCP doesn't have that fear and have often successfully fought back against chargebacks made by botters in Eve Online. Eve Online Invite https://secure.eveonline.com/trial/?invc=ed64524f-15ca-4997-ab92-eaae0af74b7f&action=buddy
KEROSIINI-TERO Dead Man's Game 2	Posted - 2016.02.07 01:11:00 - [28] - Quote Soldner VonKuechle wrote: I bet you're the kind of people that biitch about a steak being done improperly after you've eaten the whole thing, while expecting your meal to be comp'ed. Talking to me? Surely not, but in case you were: No, definately not. But, I'm the person who complains if a restaurant sells pre-paid lunch cards of ten and after using just two of those lunches, announces they are no longer open at lunch time at all. Then I would ask for reimbursement for those UNEATEN, NOT EATEN, UNUSED, lunches. Maybe I should clarify the uneaten part more??? Sour level over 9000. KERO-TRADER is my official Eve character for Dust trading.
KEROSIINI-TERO Dead Man's Game 2	Posted - 2016.02.07 01:13:00 - [29] - Quote It's kinda funny how the players are actually against this suggested transfer for players' benefit. Either they are incognito CCP agents, or envy is the most driving force in human nature. Sour level over 9000. KERO-TRADER is my official Eve character for Dust trading.
Soldner VonKuechle SAM-MIK General Tso's Alliance 2	Posted - 2016.02.07 01:25:00 - [30] - Quote KEROSIINI-TERO wrote: It's kinda funny how the players are actually against this suggested transfer for players' benefit. Either they are incognito CCP agents, or envy is the most driving force in human nature. Naw, we're not complete total idiots. Also, why would dust players want to get eve aurum? If anything id want it to transfer to eve fphoenixs, even if those details aren't sketched out yet or applicable. If you've stated it before, please requote it, i couldve lost it in the mewling. Like usual, the forums went full r-tard with the news.



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