This thread is not a debate on whether you think it is a good idea, just a head count of people like me who joined dust to not have to start over again. If you biomass us, i will not be returning to start over. As it will just keep happening. The continuous nature of the universe is what brought me here & will be the only thing that will tear me away. If anyone else will not be returning without their character's x up & be heard. Even if it doesn't mean anything.

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BPO's as you know them will not be transferred or maybe not in the new game at all. They're trying to run on the EVE Economy and BPO's just completely break it. If you want to keep your BPO's the only solution I see that will be coming is that you'll have to manufacture them yourself.

Edit: Petition not signed.

A basic BPO is not game breaking. You really feel me running my Dren swarm launcher and Basic Ammar Logi will break the game or economy?

I'll keep my name and maybe a little badge or something to show that I was from Dust 514 but it would make the game highly unbalanced if we transfer SP and ISK. This is a new game using IDEAS from Dust and lessons learned from Dust. This is not a port people.

I'd like to point out EVE vets have significantly more SP than a noob.

This thread is not a debate on whether you think it is a good idea, just a head count of people like me who joined dust to not have to start over again. If you biomass us, i will not be returning to start over. As it will just keep happening. The continuous nature of the universe is what brought me here & will be the only thing that will tear me away. If anyone else will not be returning without their character's x up & be heard. Even if it doesn't mean anything.

There is also different secs in the game where they can't attack you if you are a noob.

I also recently started playing. Within the last half year. I have never felt as instantly connected to a game as i have dust. It is my favorite stuff. And in the past few months since i started, ive spent 100s of dollars on this game. I spend 100 dollars on it every month because i wanted this game to flourish. My wife, FURRY GIRLfaulkner spends almost as much. We were under the impression tht we wouldnt lose our things. I dont mind my skills being reset. That has to happen. I dont mind not keeping our aur or isk. What i mind is the possibility of all the money i spent going to waste. If the new game comes out and all i get is a unique skin that indicates i played dust then i have to ask myself is it worth it for me to play the next game as well? Why would i keep pouring my money into a company that is going to do this to me?
CCP, i understand what your doing. And im not blaming you for the most part. But please. Give those of us that supported and funded you so readily out of admiration and love for your product something to remember dust by. Something that feels fair. I dont want to start off with game breaking equipment. But i also dont want you to just hand out skins and call it even with us. Im just nervous is all. If we arent rewarded for our loyalty with something of equal value then your setting a standard that those of us who do as i have cant continue to fund. I want a persistent world like eve. You wouldnt reset them. Why reset us?
Even if its just in the form of blueprints or perhaps having two ranking systems in your new game. New players can be enlisted. Us dust loyalists can be officers. Give us seperate loyalty rank bonuses or something. Give us something that new players can look at and understand what weve done. Make it apparent that this was our house. We have supported YOU with ungodly amounts of money. And we want to trust you that we can continue to do so without getting a hollow thank you and a golden star on our arm for all our sacrifices to help you grow.
I hope that you can find a solution that is not game breaking and is not simply asthetic. But more so, i just hope you care enough to try hard to find that solution. Thats why i supported you each month. I was proud of my minmatar. All of my minmatar apex suits. My accomplishments in this game felt real to me. Dont throw those in the trash. Give the veterans a legacy in this new game.

Petition Signed.

BPO's as you know them will not be transferred or maybe not in the new game at all. They're trying to run on the EVE Economy and BPO's just completely break it. If you want to keep your BPO's the only solution I see that will be coming is that you'll have to manufacture them yourself.

Edit: Petition not signed.

There is also different secs in the game where they can't attack you if you are a noob.

BPOs *as used in Dust* break the EvE economy. But BPOs themselves don't. EvE uses BPOs and BPCs (blueprint copies with limited runs) to manufacture items which can be bought for ISK. We actually need BPOs if we are going to be able to have unlimited numbers of anything. And we need the ISK to buy the materials and manufacturing time to make them, so we should not be so ready to give up our ISK, either.

I think there's a place for BPO style suits - Militia level suits with Militia level equipment that doesn't run out, similar to the clothing items we have in EvE, where likewise, once bought we don't lose them. But anything better than that should be bought for ISK and made from BPs (either Originals or Copies).

BPOs *as used in Dust* break the EvE economy. But BPOs themselves don't. EvE uses BPOs and BPCs (blueprint copies with limited runs) to manufacture items which can be bought for ISK. We actually need BPOs if we are going to be able to have unlimited numbers of anything. And we need the ISK to buy the materials and manufacturing time to make them, so we should not be so ready to give up our ISK, either.

I think there's a place for BPO style suits - Militia level suits with Militia level equipment that doesn't run out, similar to the clothing items we have in EvE, where likewise, once bought we don't lose them. But anything better than that should be bought for ISK and made from BPs (either Originals or Copies).

I'll keep my name and maybe a little badge or something to show that I was from Dust 514 but it would make the game highly unbalanced if we transfer SP and ISK. This is a new game using IDEAS from Dust and lessons learned from Dust. This is not a port people.

The whole SP issue is not a problem but rather a benefit (revenue increase) for CCP.

As in the next patch you can BUY Skill Points for ISK.

http://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/exploring-the-character-bazaar-skill-trading/


YES: You will be able to buy Skill Points so:

Carrying the Skill Points through will not break anything at all.

It will rather keep the no-lifers/enables/leaders to stay and continue leading and organizing.

No. You won't be able to CREATE skill points, only buy them from someone who's already earnt them. Yes, you will be able to buy skill points from other people but they will lose those skill points in the process. Not quite what you're indicating here.

You will keep your name and that will be it.

You will be lucky to keep your AUR and any BPOs you have and all that AUR spent on boosters has been lost and used in vain.

We paid for it. We want it. If you pay for a lifetime supply of...jerky...and i tell you after half a year that we dont want to give you any more, you should be refunded in some way.

You have to look at it logically speaking. This game has been abused with isk glitch to the point we can all run proto forever. And SP wise I'm sitting at 108mil. With 12 proto suits, and proto tank. Bringing that to the next game will instantly cause problems for new players. I think visualisations and bpos should be brought over, and also a reward for what loyalty level we are in dust but that's sensible to me

I mean if you just think of your starter suits as starter ships than it's not unreasonable at all.

What I really don't want to see, though is just another lobby shooter, like Dust has become. As part of the EvE universe, Dust on PC (DoPC) should be a sandbox, like EvE, were battles aren't scheduled, don't start and finish according to some sort of rules, are part of the EvE war system where appropriate, and otherwise, just generally part of the PvP world of EvE. Battles should EXIST wherever and whenever two or more players decide to duke it out, and there should be the scope for more people to arrive on either side to make it as even or as one-sided as those people want. This is what EvE is about, not the stylised battles of Dust.