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Baal Omniscient
Qualified Scrub
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Posted - 2016.01.11 16:44:00 -
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byte modal wrote:jordy mack wrote:byte modal wrote:
but if you're flowing with THAT reference, then how a bout this? in honor of...
you remind me of the babe....
o7 what babe? the babe of POWER!
What power?
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"Baal comes...and destruction follows him like a storm."
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byte modal
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Posted - 2016.01.11 16:59:00 -
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Baal Omniscient wrote:byte modal wrote:jordy mack wrote:byte modal wrote:
but if you're flowing with THAT reference, then how a bout this? in honor of...
you remind me of the babe....
o7 what babe? the babe of POWER! What power?
The power of VOODOO!
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deezy dabest
IMPERIAL SPECIAL FORCES GROUP
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Posted - 2016.01.11 20:58:00 -
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deezy dabest wrote:+1s for everybody.
I have never watched GoT either but I quickly found and agreed with the reference on that dark dark day.
If I recall correctly it did in fact start out as the Red Wedding until players at the event started referencing it as the Rouge Wedding in forums posts, tweets, and what not.
EDIT: Apparently HBO Now is doing a 30 day trial for new customers if anyone wants to binge watch GoT.
I did not plan on going past the 30 day trial of HBO Now but holy crap I feel like the video quality is beating netflix big time.
Going to stream 4k House of Cards side by side to compare.
o7 All #514InTheWind
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Snap out of the Stockholm Syndrome guys.
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maybe deadcatz
Serris Inc
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Posted - 2016.01.12 00:10:00 -
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So I just decided to try watching local TV today.
Had to jury rig an antenna for my TV.
Managed to get fox26 on the local dtv.
What is this show "modern family"?
Jumped to local channel 39. Kiah-Dt.
This show 'mike and molly' seems rather funny?
Guess using my TV for anime and games isn't all I can do with it
Ha!You can't kill me! I'm already dead!
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Reign Omega
Eternal Beings
I Whip My Slaves Back and Forth
2
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Posted - 2016.01.12 00:16:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:maybe deadcatz wrote:True Adamance wrote:jordy mack wrote:anyone else find this to be a stupid nonsense name for what happened?
in almost every way, this name does not work.
if anyone has a better suggestion leave it here. o7
fanfest's
ulterior
change
keynote
(to the)
uninformed
playerbase
Is that because you aren't aware of the reference to the Game of Thrones Red Wedding betrayal and the obvious links between Red and Rouge. So that's where the name came from.never knew because I don't use a TV to watch TV. I just read the books. The TV series has diverged hugely from the original narrative to the point I won't even watch it any more.
Tv series is still good. Great in fact, and I have also read the books. There is something to be said for being able to separate intellectual property from different medium.
Hell naw...to the naw naw naw...hell to the naw.
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Forever ETC
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
1
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Posted - 2016.01.12 03:01:00 -
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maybe deadcatz wrote:So I just decided to try watching local TV today.
Had to jury rig an antenna for my TV.
Managed to get fox26 on the local dtv.
What is this show "modern family"?
Jumped to local channel 39. Kiah-Dt.
This show 'mike and molly' seems rather funny?
Guess using my TV for anime and games isn't all I can do with it
Modern Family is pretty good. Don't really enjoy Mike and Molly, 2 Broke Girls etc. I can't get past the bad acting... Literally feels like they saw the script an hour ago and seriously drag to the punchlines.
AmarrFTW
"The Hero got his feelings hurt for 9 hp... "
Not For Sale- Sanders 2016
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Operative 1174 Uuali
True Companion Planetary Requisitions
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Posted - 2016.01.12 03:38:00 -
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I like to call it INCARNA 2.0
CCP logic GÇô We fix what doesn't need breaking.
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Darth-Carbonite GIO
Random Gunz
Rise Of Legion.
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Posted - 2016.01.12 07:36:00 -
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The name itself is unfitting certainly, as the man who did the announcing wasn't the one who made the decision, and therefore should not have his moniker attached to the fail cascade that was fanfest 2014.
More like the "Marketing Massacre."
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Operative 1174 Uuali
True Companion Planetary Requisitions
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Posted - 2016.01.12 20:36:00 -
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Darth-Carbonite GIO wrote:The name itself is unfitting certainly, as the man who did the announcing wasn't the one who made the decision, and therefore should not have his moniker attached to the fail cascade that was fanfest 2014.
More like the "Marketing Massacre."
Hilmar Hussle?
Praetorian Pitfall?
Mintchip Massacre?
Oww, Mintchip Massacre! Cool band name. I call it!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v30YCloc33U#t=0m30s
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Russel Moralles
Klandatu
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Posted - 2016.01.13 05:02:00 -
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rouge weeding.
also known as,
disaster, plague, shitstorm, debacle, worst idea/event ever, stupid, dumb.
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jordy mack
WarRavens
Imperium Eden
1
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Posted - 2016.01.13 15:34:00 -
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to be fair i do think we over reacted a bit...
ok, alot.
Less QQ more PewPew
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Soto Gallente
BLUEBERRIES WITH AUTISM
RUST415
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Posted - 2016.01.13 15:36:00 -
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jordy mack wrote:to be fair i do think we over reacted a bit...
ok, alot.
^
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Monkey MAC
Rough Riders..
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Posted - 2016.01.13 15:54:00 -
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jordy mack wrote:to be fair i do think we over reacted a bit...
ok, alot.
Yeah you remember everything we promised for this game last year? Not happening. But we have this really shiny version of the exact same game, but for PC only.
Did we really?
They call me the Monkey - I like to jump off sh** and piss RE's all over your tank!
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jordy mack
WarRavens
Imperium Eden
1
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Posted - 2016.01.13 16:16:00 -
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Monkey MAC wrote:jordy mack wrote:to be fair i do think we over reacted a bit...
ok, alot.
Yeah you remember everything we promised for this game last year? Not happening. But we have this really shiny version of the exact same game, but for PC only.Did we really?
and now we have neither... thanks.
Less QQ more PewPew
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byte modal
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Posted - 2016.01.13 16:24:00 -
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Eh, a mistake is a mistake. Short-sighted and naive was the idea to have a 10-year plan for PS3 at that time in the console's lifespan. Better to realize that mistake and redirect? Or to press on to inevitable failure?
1) I'm not condoning their handling of the decision and using the DUST keynote to present it, but it was probably the best decision to have made (to evolve DUST to LEGION, not the presentation of it), all things considered.
2) Had CCP used a different forum for that announcement, or introduced it by way of DUST, by addressing the short-term goals for PS3 DUST development, then transitioning to the idea of LEGION (even in the same keynote), the idea probably would have been an easier pill to swallow. Like, "Over the next 6 months we plan to introduce this or that, but now with hind-sight being what it is, we would like to evolve the DUST experience into something we have more experience and control in and will be around for whatever timeframe..." Idunno. Arm-chair quarterbacking is easy.
3) I wonder if they had made more of an effort to transition the idea rather than the interpreted hardline they drew, would player reactions have been so vile?
4) To suggest that the player base did not overreact I think is a bit off. I get it, and hopefully my points above make that clear, but these forums have always had a vein of revolt and spite. Everything is a DUST killer. Every change for balance triggers a rubberband reaction by half the player base b!tching. Everyone has an entitled notion that cash entry means indefinite payoffs without limit. CRU camping. Protostomping. Old Q-syncing. The attitude is in the blood here for some reason, and it is vile.
CCP handled things poorly, and has since all but closed doors to communicate. I imagine partly because of the players' reactions (overreaction?) to FF. Or they are simply too busy making stuff for the next update that everyone will most likely be offended by for one selfish reason or another of a million. But my experience has been the forums have always wanted an excuse to take to the streets with pitchforks. FF was a softball justification for the apes to sling their sh!t. And they seemed to enjoy their slinging.
Just MHO though.
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deezy dabest
IMPERIAL SPECIAL FORCES GROUP
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Posted - 2016.01.13 21:13:00 -
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byte modal wrote:
CCP handled things poorly, and has since all but closed doors to communicate. I imagine partly because of the players' reactions (overreaction?) to FF. Or they are simply too busy making stuff for the next update that everyone will most likely be offended by for one selfish reason or another of a million. But my experience has been the forums have always wanted an excuse to take to the streets with pitchforks. FF was a softball justification for the apes to sling their sh!t. And they seemed to enjoy their slinging.
Just MHO though.
Most gamers are not like hardened Eve vets that are simply use to CCP not delivering. They got away with blurting out ideas in Eve because of most people realizing that idea actually happening was 50% at best. CCP attempted to treat it like some Eve announcement and had it back fire horribly thanks to poor management of even that announcement.
CCP also learned a very hard lesson about having a third party handle your transactions. In Eve they use their own credit card processing giving them the ability to fight, and usually win, any charge backs.
Sony on the other hand only cares about them self. If even a hint of an argument against the company is present they will snatch the money back in a heartbeat because Sony does not technically have the ability to fight the charge backs due to a lack of evidence. Why would Sony give up time, money and reputation to fight for a publisher that has pissed off their players?
CCP remains silent because talking leads to lost money no matter what when your money is controlled by a third party that has no real vested interest in you but has plenty of vested interest in the players.
o7 All #514InTheWind
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Maken Tosch
DUST University
Ivy League
12
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Posted - 2016.01.13 21:35:00 -
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deezy dabest wrote:byte modal wrote:
CCP handled things poorly, and has since all but closed doors to communicate. I imagine partly because of the players' reactions (overreaction?) to FF. Or they are simply too busy making stuff for the next update that everyone will most likely be offended by for one selfish reason or another of a million. But my experience has been the forums have always wanted an excuse to take to the streets with pitchforks. FF was a softball justification for the apes to sling their sh!t. And they seemed to enjoy their slinging.
Just MHO though.
Most gamers are not like hardened Eve vets that are simply use to CCP not delivering. They got away with blurting out ideas in Eve because of most people realizing that idea actually happening was 50% at best. CCP attempted to treat it like some Eve announcement and had it back fire horribly thanks to poor management of even that announcement. CCP also learned a very hard lesson about having a third party handle your transactions. In Eve they use their own credit card processing giving them the ability to fight, and usually win, any charge backs. Sony on the other hand only cares about them self. If even a hint of an argument against the company is present they will snatch the money back in a heartbeat because Sony does not technically have the ability to fight the charge backs due to a lack of evidence. Why would Sony give up time, money and reputation to fight for a publisher that has pissed off their players? CCP remains silent because talking leads to lost money no matter what when your money is controlled by a third party that has no real vested interest in you but has plenty of vested interest in the players.
This is another reason why I feel Dust will very likely end up on the PC whether as Dust 514, Eve Legion, or Eve Phoenix, I don't care. If it gets ported to the PC, CCP can better unify the accounts and be able to better dispute and win any charge backs brought against them.
As for the overreaction for Fanfest 2014, I am not going to refer to the player reaction as an overreaction. CCP fudged up big time during the Dust 514 Keynote which only showed past clips from CEOPyrex on Uprising followed by an announcement of Project Legion to the PC.
Oh, and let's not forget how embarrassing this must have been for the ONE FAMILY that traveled from abroad to Fanfest 2014 for the sole purpose of attending the Dust 514 Keynote to see what impact he made as a player to the game only to find out that his impact meant nothing and most of the Eve Online players around him fell silent and thus the family felt alienated by the announcement which resulted in CCP trying to find the family to apologize only to find out that the family called their airline which offered an early trip home at no charge to the family.
Source:
http://dustsearch.com/thread/159617/page/1
Even that wasn't an overreaction. That was a justified reaction. No more of a reaction than what we all saw go down with the Jita Riots back in 2011 when the Greed is Good letter leaked and when one of the devs made a poor response to the whole thing using $1000 jeans as an excuse.
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byte modal
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Posted - 2016.01.13 22:13:00 -
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I don't think that I am trying to excuse their mishandling of the keynote; rather I'm just separating the elements to take on, each for their own merit. First the decision to build what they did in context of console life expectancy and general development familiarity, next the ****-poor thought process thinking the keynote would be a great way to introduce LEGION, and finally the player base tendency to react negatively to change (biter vet syndrome forum lurker).
I believe reactions were justified, but I'm not sure the level of vitriol was. I am not grouping the family (previously linked) into that as I feel his post was heartfelt and mature. That is something above the rabble noise of the forums. Too, I'm not really speaking as an EVE pilot. Just as the devil's advocate, I guess. Personally, I think it was short-sighted to target the PS3 to begin with, but I can respect the intent. So maybe I'm giving them credit where they may not deserve it. Too, I'm just annoyed with negativity in general, so I may be biased in that direction.
I think that's a fair point to make regarding Sony's role in a lot of this. Also, it does seem a wiser choice to move to PC for reasons Maken listed. Not that I'm advocating PC master race or anything ;)
I'm off topic I guess. Sorry if I'm derailing. Just rambling. I'll shut it now.
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Living Rock 523
Intara Direct Action
Caldari State
8
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Posted - 2016.01.14 00:52:00 -
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The thing that cannot be forgotten about FF14 is CCP pushing aurum and packs like mad for months right up until FF14. They milked the player base for every dollar they could get while telling us "oh man, big announcement for Dust at FF14". Then all the stuff CCP said happened. Then they said "transfer of anything from Dust to Legion.......well.......you never know". |
byte modal
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Posted - 2016.01.14 01:20:00 -
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Just curious: did CCP pull the plug on those boosters the day after FF? Did AUR depreciate, negating the purchase of consumable items? Did that proto AUR AA suddenly stop working after players paid for the boost to spec into it? Were purchased consumables no longer consumable?
Fire and brimstone coming down from the skies! Rivers and seas boiling! Forty years of darkness! Earthquakes, volcanoes! The dead rising from the grave! Human sacrifice! Dogs and cats living together! Mass hysteria!
I really just wanted an excuse to use those quotes....
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Living Rock 523
Intara Direct Action
Caldari State
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Posted - 2016.01.14 01:41:00 -
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When the company line is "laser focused on PS3, 10 year road map, hey new merc packs, buy aurum, remember the 10 year road map" to " PSYCH!!!! Aahhhh man that was funny. But seriously, buy a PC. And also none of you sh*t will transfer" to "dude why are they mad? F*ck em" then people have a right to be angry.
Did they do anything illegal? No they didn't. But that doesn't mean it's not f*cked up. They got one over on a lot of people financially, but well within the boundaries of the law, so I feel they deserve the negativity they get. A lot of people don't feel that way, and that's fine. But in the sea of opinions about the matter, the facts have always been ignored. |
byte modal
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Posted - 2016.01.14 02:20:00 -
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I get the frustration, but to imply CCP willfully frauded the player base by pushing merc packs on the hedge that PS3 has a 10-year life expectancy (or any other reason, for that matter) is opinion, not fact. Was the whole thing jacked up? No real argument there from me. Even if manipulation was their sole intent, neither you or I know that as fact. Unless you were a PM for the original dev team or something, then I stand corrected. Still though, as bad as it played out emotionally for some, merc packs and AUR sales still provided the services advertised. And continue to do so. Regardless of how offensive FF may have been to some.
EDIT:
Oh. And um.... Purple bunny fuzzy nipples. Just so we're clear on the tone and intensity of this post. RaWr. And stuff.
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IMMORTAL WAR HERO
NECROM0NGERS
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Posted - 2016.01.14 03:13:00 -
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jordy mack wrote:anyone else find this to be a stupid nonsense name for what happened?
in almost every way, this name does not work.
if anyone has a better suggestion leave it here. o7
fanfest's
ulterior
change
keynote
(to the)
uninformed
playerbase
yeah bump please
Object of war is not2 die 4ur country murder bastard 4 his
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Maken Tosch
DUST University
Ivy League
12
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Posted - 2016.01.14 04:34:00 -
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Living Rock 523 wrote:The thing that cannot be forgotten about FF14 is CCP pushing aurum and packs like mad for months right up until FF14. They milked the player base for every dollar they could get while telling us "oh man, big announcement for Dust at FF14". Then all the stuff CCP said happened. Then they said "transfer of anything from Dust to Legion.......well.......you never know".
I'm sure CCP didn't intend to come across like that with the pre-Fanfest AUR sales, but still they should have known better than to hastily put together a Fanfest Keynote like that.
If CCP Rouge had gone on stage saying that Dust development will continue under new leadership due to a recent focus on Eve Valkyrie and Eve Gunjack without EVER mentioning Project Legion, then maybe player base would have remained solid, that family I mentioned would not have felt so embarrassed, and AUR sales would have had better results.
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Maken Tosch
DUST University
Ivy League
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Posted - 2016.01.14 04:41:00 -
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byte modal wrote:I don't think that I am trying to excuse their mishandling of the keynote; rather I'm just separating the elements to take on, each for their own merit. First the decision to build what they did in context of console life expectancy and general development familiarity, next the ****-poor thought process thinking the keynote would be a great way to introduce LEGION, and finally the player base tendency to react negatively to change (biter vet syndrome forum lurker).
I believe reactions were justified, but I'm not sure the level of vitriol was. I am not grouping the family (previously linked) into that as I feel his post was heartfelt and mature. That is something above the rabble noise of the forums. Too, I'm not really speaking as an EVE pilot. Just as the devil's advocate, I guess. Personally, I think it was short-sighted to target the PS3 to begin with, but I can respect the intent. So maybe I'm giving them credit where they may not deserve it. Too, I'm just annoyed with negativity in general, so I may be biased in that direction.
I think that's a fair point to make regarding Sony's role in a lot of this. Also, it does seem a wiser choice to move to PC for reasons Maken listed. Not that I'm advocating PC master race or anything ;)
I'm off topic I guess. Sorry if I'm derailing. Just rambling. I'll shut it now.
CCP chose the PS3 because they wanted to try out the console market for once. They felt that sticking to the PC market only would not help them very much and they never did a first-person shooter before which explains its current state of affairs.
But that was 3 years ago.
Today, CCP has learned its lessons. Some of it unfortunately in the hard way. Many Eve Online players argued that CCP should have started on the PC first where they can have a more direct connection with the game client instead of relying on Sony as the middleman when it comes to sending out patches. This way it would mean Dust would have developed faster and be more stable and complete just in time for the PS4 release in which then CCP would have easily ported the game over to the new console.
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deezy dabest
IMPERIAL SPECIAL FORCES GROUP
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Posted - 2016.01.14 04:47:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:byte modal wrote:I don't think that I am trying to excuse their mishandling of the keynote; rather I'm just separating the elements to take on, each for their own merit. First the decision to build what they did in context of console life expectancy and general development familiarity, next the ****-poor thought process thinking the keynote would be a great way to introduce LEGION, and finally the player base tendency to react negatively to change (biter vet syndrome forum lurker).
I believe reactions were justified, but I'm not sure the level of vitriol was. I am not grouping the family (previously linked) into that as I feel his post was heartfelt and mature. That is something above the rabble noise of the forums. Too, I'm not really speaking as an EVE pilot. Just as the devil's advocate, I guess. Personally, I think it was short-sighted to target the PS3 to begin with, but I can respect the intent. So maybe I'm giving them credit where they may not deserve it. Too, I'm just annoyed with negativity in general, so I may be biased in that direction.
I think that's a fair point to make regarding Sony's role in a lot of this. Also, it does seem a wiser choice to move to PC for reasons Maken listed. Not that I'm advocating PC master race or anything ;)
I'm off topic I guess. Sorry if I'm derailing. Just rambling. I'll shut it now. CCP chose the PS3 because they wanted to try out the console market for once. They felt that sticking to the PC market only would not help them very much and they never did a first-person shooter before which explains its current state of affairs. But that was 3 years ago. Today, CCP has learned its lessons. Some of it unfortunately in the hard way. Many Eve Online players argued that CCP should have started on the PC first where they can have a more direct connection with the game client instead of relying on Sony as the middleman when it comes to sending out patches. This way it would mean Dust would have developed faster and be more stable and complete just in time for the PS4 release in which then CCP would have easily ported the game over to the new console.
Honestly I think if CCP had gone with PC Dust would have never made it off the ground. I say this because they never would have been forced off of Carbon to a real game engine.
If you don't believe that would have been a disaster hop on Eve and set your settings to max and then hop into the captain's quarters. This action is guaranteed to kick your fans into high gear.
o7 All #514InTheWind
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byte modal
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Posted - 2016.01.14 05:32:00 -
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Maken: thanks for trying to keep things centered. That's actually where i prefer to be but i find myself slipping from time to time.
My opinion on the ps3 short-sightedness is just that: my opinion. Like i noted earlier, armchair quarterbacking is easy. I include myself in that slight. I understand the desire to reach out to a console base to expand beyond PC and i think the intent is novel and a great idea. As deezy followed up, i may agree the attempt was necessary for development expansion. It ended up a forced push out of carbon. That can only really be a positive, to try to grow even if it doesn't play out as hoped. As for the ps3, i only wish they could have waited to aim for ps4, or developed primarily on PC with an intent to port to ps4. That could have provided needed time for the learning curve. Or not. There's all kinds of reasons i can't even begin to speculate on as to the why's and why nots.
We're all just giving opinion and speculating though. So iderno.
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Maken Tosch
DUST University
Ivy League
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Posted - 2016.01.14 05:54:00 -
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deezy dabest wrote:Honestly I think if CCP had gone with PC Dust would have never made it off the ground. I say this because they never would have been forced off of Carbon to a real game engine.
If you don't believe that would have been a disaster hop on Eve and set your settings to max and then hop into the captain's quarters. This action is guaranteed to kick your fans into high gear.
I do remember CCP using the Carbon Architecture on the earliest known version of Dust 514 and that was on the PC. Or at least it looked like Carbon from first impressions. Judging from the early demo of the game years before Mordu's Private Trials, the game looked stable (although quirky in animation).
Also, today's Captain's Quarters are more optimized than ever before which is a far cry from how they were on day 1 of the Eve Online: Incarna Expansion. My 10-year-old computer doesn't struggle anymore as long as I find the right balance in graphics and performance which is something that was never achievable back then on day 1. The problem back then is that the CQ was not properly optimized before Incarna and thus it was rushed.
But still, Carbon is an in-house architecture of its own and I don't think CCP had future plans to use it on a FPS game if they had plans to move it over to the console after one day establishing the PC version. Using the Unreal Engine for the PC version would then make it easier to port it to the console especially in time for the PS4.
And even if they use the Carbon engine, we don't know the current state of the engine now compared to back then. Dust likely started on Carbon back in 2009 and you can see how it looked back then.
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deezy dabest
IMPERIAL SPECIAL FORCES GROUP
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Posted - 2016.01.14 06:11:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:deezy dabest wrote:Honestly I think if CCP had gone with PC Dust would have never made it off the ground. I say this because they never would have been forced off of Carbon to a real game engine.
If you don't believe that would have been a disaster hop on Eve and set your settings to max and then hop into the captain's quarters. This action is guaranteed to kick your fans into high gear. I do remember CCP using the Carbon Architecture on the earliest known version of Dust 514 and that was on the PC. Or at least it looked like Carbon from first impressions. Judging from the early demo of the game years before Mordu's Private Trials, the game looked stable (although quirky in animation). Also, today's Captain's Quarters are more optimized than ever before which is a far cry from how they were on day 1 of the Eve Online: Incarna Expansion. My 10-year-old computer doesn't struggle anymore as long as I find the right balance in graphics and performance which is something that was never achievable back then on day 1. The problem back then is that the CQ was not properly optimized before Incarna and thus it was rushed. But still, Carbon is an in-house architecture of its own and I don't think CCP had future plans to use it on a FPS game if they had plans to move it over to the console after one day establishing the PC version. Using the Unreal Engine for the PC version would then make it easier to port it to the console especially in time for the PS4. And even if they use the Carbon engine, we don't know the current state of the engine now compared to back then. Dust likely started on Carbon back in 2009 and you can see how it looked back then. Dust 514 Demo Part 1 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ED-YF-v7WCwDust 514 Demo Part 2 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SvDKbiUnxTA
Early beta was on Carbon and was roasting peoples PS3 so Sony said they can not publish the game. This is why the foundation of Dust is crap because it was a forced rush to UE3 with little input from any UE3 experts.
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deezy dabest wrote:
Early beta was on Carbon and was roasting peoples PS3 so Sony said they can not publish the game. This is why the foundation of Dust is crap because it was a forced rush to UE3 with little input from any UE3 experts.
I don't think CCP switched to carbon because of that. In fact, I do vividly remember hearing about a lot of PS3's roasting while under the Unreal Engine 3. I do recall CCP chose UE3 for its simplicity although many asked why they didn't use UE4 instead.
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