Most gamers are not like hardened Eve vets that are simply use to CCP not delivering. They got away with blurting out ideas in Eve because of most people realizing that idea actually happening was 50% at best. CCP attempted to treat it like some Eve announcement and had it back fire horribly thanks to poor management of even that announcement.


CCP also learned a very hard lesson about having a third party handle your transactions. In Eve they use their own credit card processing giving them the ability to fight, and usually win, any charge backs.

Sony on the other hand only cares about them self. If even a hint of an argument against the company is present they will snatch the money back in a heartbeat because Sony does not technically have the ability to fight the charge backs due to a lack of evidence. Why would Sony give up time, money and reputation to fight for a publisher that has pissed off their players?

CCP remains silent because talking leads to lost money no matter what when your money is controlled by a third party that has no real vested interest in you but has plenty of vested interest in the players.

The thing that cannot be forgotten about FF14 is CCP pushing aurum and packs like mad for months right up until FF14. They milked the player base for every dollar they could get while telling us "oh man, big announcement for Dust at FF14". Then all the stuff CCP said happened. Then they said "transfer of anything from Dust to Legion.......well.......you never know".

I don't think that I am trying to excuse their mishandling of the keynote; rather I'm just separating the elements to take on, each for their own merit. First the decision to build what they did in context of console life expectancy and general development familiarity, next the ****-poor thought process thinking the keynote would be a great way to introduce LEGION, and finally the player base tendency to react negatively to change (biter vet syndrome forum lurker).

I believe reactions were justified, but I'm not sure the level of vitriol was. I am not grouping the family (previously linked) into that as I feel his post was heartfelt and mature. That is something above the rabble noise of the forums. Too, I'm not really speaking as an EVE pilot. Just as the devil's advocate, I guess. Personally, I think it was short-sighted to target the PS3 to begin with, but I can respect the intent. So maybe I'm giving them credit where they may not deserve it. Too, I'm just annoyed with negativity in general, so I may be biased in that direction.

I think that's a fair point to make regarding Sony's role in a lot of this. Also, it does seem a wiser choice to move to PC for reasons Maken listed. Not that I'm advocating PC master race or anything ;)

I'm off topic I guess. Sorry if I'm derailing. Just rambling. I'll shut it now.

Honestly I think if CCP had gone with PC Dust would have never made it off the ground. I say this because they never would have been forced off of Carbon to a real game engine.

If you don't believe that would have been a disaster hop on Eve and set your settings to max and then hop into the captain's quarters. This action is guaranteed to kick your fans into high gear.

Early beta was on Carbon and was roasting peoples PS3 so Sony said they can not publish the game. This is why the foundation of Dust is crap because it was a forced rush to UE3 with little input from any UE3 experts.