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VAHZZ
Community Cream Pie
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Posted - 2015.12.22 06:34:00 -
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Ahkhomi Cypher wrote:I just want my name and CEO of Opus Arcana. And I want my name and your role as CEO of Opus Arcana
Long Live The King
@Aldturtl
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Dead Cavino
Lunatic.High
164
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Posted - 2015.12.22 06:34:00 -
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1 If i'm capable, I will play "new DUST" regardless of what happens.
I don't like two-legged things.
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Baal Omniscient
Qualified Scrub
2
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Posted - 2015.12.22 06:49:00 -
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I I never had any issues with my SP resetting in beta so I wouldn't have any issues with it happening in a port. As long as I were compensated in some meaningful way for the money I've spent on the game (other than SP) I would say 1-2, if not then 3-4
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Nothing Certain
Pervy Sages
1
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Posted - 2015.12.22 06:49:00 -
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I want that to happen. Let us at least start on a level playing field.
Because, that's why.
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shaman oga
Dead Man's Game
5
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Posted - 2015.12.22 08:42:00 -
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3 Must be something more than a skin. But if possible I would play anyway, everybody new, no one new.
Camouflage master =ƒÄà
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sir RAVEN WING
RabbitGang
5
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Posted - 2015.12.22 09:12:00 -
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benandjerrys wrote:1 hell yea I was here for Mordus private trials.... And I'd do it again all the wiser. I agree.
From Mordu's
I would do 1
I'd likely be so ecstatic that I would be out helping old ladies cross the r... path of dirt with bloody fools driving down it while my game does what it must.
If I had good sums of cash burning holes in my pockets then there would be a good chance CCP gets a few holes in their pockets instead of me.
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Retired Merc... for now.
"it's just buried by 3 pages." - Cat Merc
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Git Gud Bruh
Dead Man's Game Preatoriani
48
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Posted - 2015.12.22 09:27:00 -
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Too much aurrum, too much isk grinded, too many worst of times, too many best of times. We all worked hard to get where we are. We stepped into this game when we did and had to play catch-up just like everyone else. Why completely wipe everything everyone's worked for up to this point. We were all starter fit scrubs once and climbed our way to the top. Honestly if dust was ported and everything I had achieved so far was wiped, I wouldnt play the port. So long as dust was still up and running I'd still be herp derping in the warbarge. I understand that a port would draw in plenty of new players and they need a chance to survive on the battlefield but dammit we were all new players once and had no chance to survive on the battlefield. We all came straight out of academy into the hell that is Public Contracts and I honestly think that's they way it should be. Im not supporting all the old players getting to run full proto 24/7 in a port...I'm supporting the struggle. My favorite weapon is a basic ARR, I dont care about having to grind out proto gear again, I care about what dust really is, it's a random pile of good and bad players in varying degrees of gear, some opponents are complete scrubs in officer, others are legends in militia and that's the way I like it. Every opponent is different and everyones gear every single time is different and I honestly wouldnt have it any other way. If everyone gets reset I couldnt abide, I enjoy fighting gods in all officer gear. Arirana can 1v1 me any day of the week, I gladly accept and challenge and wont dare think of running and that's what I think the real struggle in dust is, there's always someone better than you with more sp and a better fit, and thats the way it should be....
I know the new scrubs need a fighting chance but none of us received that chance. **** those scrubs, I had to earn my place and so should they. Give all of the newbies a 6 month omega booster and we'll call it even.
"Militia Internet, Proto Lag" -Zandor Suzuki
"To be fair"- viper xsniper
"Americ*nt"- TheD1CK
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Git Gud Bruh
Dead Man's Game Preatoriani
48
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Posted - 2015.12.22 09:36:00 -
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jane stalin wrote:I love my SP because it lets me have a chance against other players with high SP, If EVERYONE lost SP it would not be so bad, and if that is what it takes to move to a new console and get new players so be it,
If I was CCP I would port to other consoles and I would reset everyones SP because the new players in the new market would be frustrated by being murdered by high SP players
however if an old player grinded to 50million SP they would get access to old characters and have 50 million SP to spend. We all started at some point and there was always someone better than us. Why should these new ps4 scrubs get any more of a fair chance than we did? I came in and got my **** kicked in just like every single one of us did and I think part of the real dust experience is GETTING YOUR **** KICKED IN by someone you're probably never gonna kill more than once, because at one point in time....that dude you cant kill got his **** kicked in by someone he probably never killed more than once, because.....so on and so forth.
"Militia Internet, Proto Lag" -Zandor Suzuki
"To be fair"- viper xsniper
"Americ*nt"- TheD1CK
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sir RAVEN WING
RabbitGang
5
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Posted - 2015.12.22 09:40:00 -
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Git Gud Bruh wrote:We all came straight out of academy You forget some of us came before Academy.
I was dropped right into the game and shot blues thinking I was red for some reason. Then got gunned down by the red I just attempted to protect. I miss those days but not the bugs
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Retired Merc... for now.
"it's just buried by 3 pages." - Cat Merc
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Alena Ventrallis
Commando Perkone Caldari State
3
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Posted - 2015.12.22 09:41:00 -
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4. I didn't whine when I started playing Eve in 2009 with players that had 100m+ SP. I expect all the money spent on Dust (SP, BPOs, etc.) to transfer over. A port is not a new game, it is simply moving an existing game to a new platform.
If I worked for a company for several years and got multiple pay increases, should I expect to have my salary reset to starting because we moved into a shiny new office?
Over thinking, over analyzing separates the body from the mind.
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Reign Omega
L0RDS 0F LEGI0N Damage LLC
2
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Posted - 2015.12.22 10:04:00 -
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It should be, it's impossible to draw or keep a playerbase if a large chunk has a significant leg up in a game where time played adds any sort of competitive advantage.
Hell naw...to the naw naw naw...hell to the naw.
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CaP XZ
102
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Posted - 2015.12.22 10:34:00 -
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I wouldn't feel hurt at all. Our progress from call of duty; 1 to call of duty; 2 isn't transferred, why should dust: 214 (numbers based on port to ps4 date) have dust:514's save progress?
alt of xavier zor
the real xor
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castba
998
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Posted - 2015.12.22 10:45:00 -
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1, because it really doesn't (and shouldn't) matter.
"When everything is OP, nothing is" - CCP Ratatti
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Tesfa Alem
Death by Disassociation
1
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Posted - 2015.12.22 11:06:00 -
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5. I want a port to continue my dust experience(10 year project!), and the time, real money and effort put in to it.
meta lock new players from the old ones. which is was players have been saying since 2013. open more star systems to grow conflict out side of the same routine PC players.
rebuilding a new system from scratch is a waste of time and dev effort.Upgrade the engine,meta lock, open up space, make a deal with Sony for thePS4, job done. A port only works if you retain a player base to build on. Dust has such a ****** reputation that it needs word of mouth to spread. A whole bunch of players screwed out of SP are going to badmouth any port and drag down dust even further.
Redline for Thee, but no Redline for Me.
"I sometimes wonder why I share stuff "- CCP Rattati
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Joseph Ridgeson
WarRavens Imperium Eden
4
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Posted - 2015.12.22 11:16:00 -
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Damn it Pokey. I am not going to get sleep today am I? Will edit this when I am on something other than an iPad.
"This is B.S! This is B.S! I paid money! Cash money, dollars money, cash money!"
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INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC
520
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Posted - 2015.12.22 11:24:00 -
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Gimme my FW Rank and my Loyalty Rank, cause grinds, give me my assests or a refund and im in. You can have all that SP.
Im against slavery says the liberal, as he picks up his Iphone 5, made in China.
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INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC
520
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Posted - 2015.12.22 11:29:00 -
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Tesfa Alem wrote:5. I want a port to continue my dust experience(10 year project!), and the time, real money and effort put in to it.
meta lock new players from the old ones. which is was players have been saying since 2013. open more star systems to grow conflict out side of the same routine PC players.
rebuilding a new system from scratch is a waste of time and dev effort.Upgrade the engine,meta lock, open up space, make a deal with Sony for thePS4, job done. A port only works if you retain a player base to build on. Dust has such a ****** reputation that it needs word of mouth to spread. A whole bunch of players screwed out of SP are going to badmouth any port and drag down dust even further.
I brought 4 new players to DUST from DESTINY in the past month. They stayed because they had HELP figuring out this ******* game. Jesus CCP two 5 minute tutorial videos that say dont spend your SP and join a good corp could be brilliant ?
Im against slavery says the liberal, as he picks up his Iphone 5, made in China.
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CaP XZ
102
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Posted - 2015.12.22 11:32:00 -
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INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC wrote:Gimme my FW Rank and my Loyalty Rank, cause grinds, give me my assests or a refund and im in. You can have all that SP.
Who needs SP when you have gun-game
LISTEN CCP
alt of xavier zor
the real xor
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xxwhitedevilxx M
Maphia Clan Corporation
3
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Posted - 2015.12.22 11:55:00 -
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I'd say 1.
take time or take aurums (Gò»#-_-)Gò»~~~GòºGòÉGòº [FSTNM SCDNM]
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jpmannu
126
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Posted - 2015.12.22 12:27:00 -
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Pokey Dravon wrote:This also goes with the following threads: Lessons from Fanfest 2014What Would You Expect to Transfer if a Port Happens?
Going on the same assumption that Dust is remade for a next gen system, assuming that it ends up on a platform that you're capable of playing it on. How would you feel if all of your Assets, ISK, LP, and SP was wiped when you transfered your character to the new game? For the sake of argument, assume that you would retain all unspent AUR and boosters, but would not receive a refund for AUR spent on BPOs, Boosters, ect. How would you rate it if you received some sort of Veteran Package that includes some unique SKINs, avatar, ect. that is only possible to get if you are DUST veteran, but still lost all of your SP, ISK, ect.
Rate it on a scale of 1 to 5 with 1 being "I would not mind this at all and would play the new game happily" and 5 being "I would hate this and refuse to play the new game". Again just kind of curious what people think since the feedback in the other thread was pretty widely spread, and Im curious on how people would react a theoretical worst case scenario. NONSENSE
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jpmannu
126
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Posted - 2015.12.22 12:29:00 -
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WHY YOU MAKE THESE STUPID THREADS |
Viktor Hadah Jr
0uter.Heaven
9
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Posted - 2015.12.22 12:31:00 -
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1 or 2.
When people say port I think of fix a butch of sh*t and improve the game in major ways not a 1:1 port. But like dust to concept legion type of port. If it's a 1:1 port might as well not even bother. So I don't really expect all the things from the broken game to be transferred to the fixed game. If nothing is fixed then there is no reason to wipe sp isk or anything.
For sp I'd be Slightly surprised but no more than slightly. Fully expect isk to be wiped those.
I'm kind of a big deal.
All PEX User
Buying dead and inactive corporations
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Symbioticforks
Ancient Exiles. Bleeding Sun Conglomerate
1
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Posted - 2015.12.22 13:52:00 -
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Keep my name on a gun, and port the *****.. reset the game to chromosome while you're at it.
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LOL KILLZ
LulKlz
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Posted - 2015.12.22 13:56:00 -
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TIGER SHARK1501 wrote:http://m.imgur.com/gallery/kS8iGlb
I'd like to keep my SP, Aurum, Skins, and BPOs. The isk can go to the wind for all I care. The other stuff I put time and money into. ^^^^^^*
HMG is my first love
SR my Sancha
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Pokey Dravon
OSG Planetary Operations
7
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Posted - 2015.12.22 14:27:00 -
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jpmannu wrote:WHY YOU MAKE THESE STUPID THREADS
Because like I talk about in my article, players were caught completely off guard by the news of Legion and it added to the subsequent fallout because of it.
I'm simply raising a topic, that in my mind, is certainly a distinct possibility in the case of a port. I think that If people can talk about it and be actively thinking about it, then if it ever does happen, they'll be far more mentally prepared.
Now obviously any number of things may (or may not) happen, this is just one that I personally think is important. In the end my goal is simply to minimize the fallout from a port announcement by making sure people are more mentally prepped for drastic changes than they were back in 2014.
"That little sh*t Pokey..." --CCP Rattati
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TIGER SHARK1501
Savage Bullet RUST415
677
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Posted - 2015.12.22 15:46:00 -
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TIGER SHARK1501 wrote:TIGER SHARK1501 wrote:http://m.imgur.com/gallery/kS8iGlb
I'd like to keep my SP, Aurum, Skins, and BPOs. The isk can go to the wind for all I care. The other stuff I put time and money into. 5 I just couldn't start from scratch again.
I'd like to clarify that my number standing given isn't based on anything negative about this game. I play this game for different reasons than say Final Fantasy X or Metal Gear. I play those games for the story, music, game play, experience of what the characters go through.
I play Dust 514 for the comradory with friends I've made, the flexibility in play style so that I can choose what is fun for me, finally defeating the grind-achieving the optimization of a skill tree so I can play how I wish, knowing my SP allocation and items such as skins and BPOs are what make my profile unique.
This game shows that a game doesn't need graphix to look like "The Order" to be good. Heck people don't play Mario to marvel how realistic Luigi and Peach appear.
The reason I couldn't find myself to start from scratch is the same when a friend asked me to get Diablo 3 for PlayStation when my account is on PC. With all the time I've put into getting to where I am, I'm just not able to start over. |
Moochie Cricket
Fatal Absolution Bleeding Sun Conglomerate
1
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Posted - 2015.12.22 16:22:00 -
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4
Caldari
REALLY 514
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byte modal
349
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Posted - 2015.12.22 17:13:00 -
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TIGER SHARK1501 wrote:TIGER SHARK1501 wrote:TIGER SHARK1501 wrote:http://m.imgur.com/gallery/kS8iGlb
I'd like to keep my SP, Aurum, Skins, and BPOs. The isk can go to the wind for all I care. The other stuff I put time and money into. 5 I just couldn't start from scratch again. I'd like to clarify that my number standing given isn't based on anything negative about this game. I play this game for different reasons than say Final Fantasy X or Metal Gear. I play those games for the story, music, game play, experience of what the characters go through. I play Dust 514 for the comradory with friends I've made, the flexibility in play style so that I can choose what is fun for me, finally defeating the grind-achieving the optimization of a skill tree so I can play how I wish, knowing my SP allocation and items such as skins and BPOs are what make my profile unique. This game shows that a game doesn't need graphix to look like "The Order" to be good. Heck people don't play Mario to marvel how realistic Luigi and Peach appear. The reason I couldn't find myself to start from scratch is the same when a friend asked me to get Diablo 3 for PlayStation when my account is on PC. With all the time I've put into getting to where I am, I'm just not able to start over.
Personally, I am against most transfers without certain conditions being met. I won't bog this reply down with all that when it's already been posted in the other thread. I just wanted to take a moment to note that your argument is maybe the most logical I've read so far in a flood of "I paid for it and because TANK! **** YOU!!1!"
I wonder if people are assuming a 1-to-1 replication, just with shinier things? What if the hypothetical release is less of an upgrade and more a new title, just with the flavor that is DUST? LEGION was a unique development apart from DUST. Sure, it was clearly influenced, and I guess we could argue those finer points of separation all day, but it was a different game. Using your D3 for example, would you expect your grind to carry over from D2? It's clearly the same franchise and more or less built on the flavor of Diablo 2, as well as Diablo. Where is that line then for whatever, if anything, comes from CCP? I mean specifically for you. Where was the line in leaving D2 to start a relatively similar grind in D3? D3 from PC to PS4 would be a tough pill to swallow, I agree. But that is the same game. Would you start over on PS4 with your friends if they released D4?
Honest questions. I swear I'm not trying to stir the pot
Thanks...
kitten bacon taco (nom)
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Devadander
Woodgrain Atari
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Posted - 2015.12.22 18:47:00 -
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I would take a deep breath.
Calmly light a cig.
Pour myself a drink.
And press square...
Gêå You want a toe? I can get you a toe dude. Gêå
Joined - 06-28-12 ~Deal with it~
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Yoda Boss
Dem Durrty Boyz
488
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Posted - 2015.12.22 18:52:00 -
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One of Two things can happen.
1 everything wiped. Start new.
2. At the most we might get a little symbol next to your name if this ps4 stuff ever happens
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