DUST Search - Why does touching MCC or RDV = instant death

Operative 1174 Uuali wrote:

CELESTA AUNGM wrote:

Daemonn Adima wrote:

Well I've bumped the MCC from multiple angles and varying speeds and each time I instantly lost all my shield and armor. Its not like I run full speed into them, the slightest touch destroys me.

I even tried landing on top as a newb pilot, unknowing of MCC Godzilla anger. Insta death again.

Im also not hitting them at "ramming" speeds. I'm talkin like light as a feather taps.

Friggan CCP logic...

LOL, don't blame the CCP logic on this item. No, seriously. You don't know it, because you're a relatively new player, but you've chosen to play around with the HARDEST most frustrating item in the game...(many of us fell into the addictive trap of Drosphips, and drivers have got no one to blame but ourselves for persistently trying this thing that gets us mad). This game is supposed to be a foot-game. DS was never meant to be so popular and envious.

Far too many players (calling ourselves "pilots") have the notion in our heads that we were able to pull of feats that "ya'll other players clearly lack the talent to do".... but believe me Daemonn, all that talk is RUBBUSH, and too many of us are flying legends in our own minds.

I learned never to think of a DS as aircraft. It's a horse. Shocked

You have to keep digging spurs to get it to do what you want, and constantly pulling on reins to keep it to stand still for a little while. If you're too gentle with a horse, it goes where it wants to, not where you want. It stops to eat when it wants---it wee-wees when it's inconvenient for you. If you're too mean with the horse---it will smack your head into a tree just to end the ride and get you off its back.

And your idea of "gentle stop" is never the horse's idea of gentle. You may THINK you're making the right kinds of touchdowns. But.....

But, most of all, my advice is DON'T take any DS player's suggestions that they are good, seriously. The GOOD players, don't even say it. The ones who seam to swagger every time they talk about the DS, don't rate passed shooting someone, hitting an afterburner, and using their hot air to successfully skirt injury.

That's a hotshot pilot? Biiig-Woow! Ugh

I like to think of it more as a giant, floating whale and I'm surfing while guiding it inside its mouth. Its stomach juices slosh and cause it to sway and list. My liquor calms it. I can then perform flips and rolls, avoiding the lightning fish that dart past me.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=i1Nh_3JCFj8&t=01m40s

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Daemonn Adima Eternal Beings 692	Posted - 2015.12.21 02:00:00 - [1] - Quote Can anyone please tell me why its like this? Its insanely frustrating as a new pilot, one because I'm still learning Nand I make mistakes. But to die instantly just for lightly touching the MCC or RDV is just dumb. You already can get on top of any building, regardless of how close it is to the enemy redline. So landing on top of an MCC is no different. I just can't understand why this exiss in its current form. Anyone know? Between proto swarms/forge guns and insta deaths from RDV call ins or MCC bumps makes me wish i never spent points in ADS. I can rarely use them and have fun in a game, usually spent trying to get a kill or wipe out links while running from AV all game. Its just not worth the points invested, as running ADS in pubs can not make up for the cost of pulling one.
maybe deadcatz Serris Inc 2	Posted - 2015.12.21 02:13:00 - [2] - Quote Its called being a expensive distraction. Unless you actually can survive the hellhole that vehicles are in. Or are rich. Ha!You can't kill me! I'm already dead!
Apocalyptic Destroyer KILL-EM-QUICK Rise Of Legion. 566	Posted - 2015.12.21 02:39:00 - [3] - Quote Because CCP True Amarr In Disguise Vehicle Expert In his house at R'lyeh dead Cthulhu waits dreaming.
jane stalin free dropships for newbs 525	Posted - 2015.12.21 04:01:00 - [4] - Quote I was thinking today you should get rid of the MCC entirely just add more spawn points and give people the option of deploying in vehicles.. ...............................boyko...............................
KEROSIINI-TERO The Rainbow Effect 2	Posted - 2015.12.21 04:24:00 - [5] - Quote jane stalin wrote: I was thinking today you should get rid of the MCC entirely just add more spawn points and give people the option of deploying in vehicles.. Good one. KERO-TRADER is my official Eve character for Dust trading. Search "KEROSKIN" for list of skins for sale!
KEROSIINI-TERO The Rainbow Effect 2	Posted - 2015.12.21 04:25:00 - [6] - Quote Daemonn Adima wrote: Can anyone please tell me why its like this? Its insanely frustrating as a new pilot, one because I'm still learning Nand I make mistakes. But to die instantly just for lightly touching the MCC or RDV is just dumb. You already can get on top of any building, regardless of how close it is to the enemy redline. So landing on top of an MCC is no different. It is a common myth that MCC is instadeath for dropships. I've seen even expert players to have that illusion. It is possible to land on it - dropship intact. KERO-TRADER is my official Eve character for Dust trading. Search "KEROSKIN" for list of skins for sale!
Daemonn Adima Eternal Beings 693	Posted - 2015.12.21 04:38:00 - [7] - Quote KEROSIINI-TERO wrote: Daemonn Adima wrote: Can anyone please tell me why its like this? Its insanely frustrating as a new pilot, one because I'm still learning Nand I make mistakes. But to die instantly just for lightly touching the MCC or RDV is just dumb. You already can get on top of any building, regardless of how close it is to the enemy redline. So landing on top of an MCC is no different. It is a common myth that MCC is instadeath for dropships. I've seen even expert players to have that illusion. It is possible to land on it - dropship intact. You shut your ***** mouth.
byte modal 343	Posted - 2015.12.21 05:14:00 - [8] - Quote Death? Wow. Used to be you'd just go blind from touching it. kitten bacon taco (nom)
Ceadda Sai ICE-9 PR0JECT 153	Posted - 2015.12.21 08:39:00 - [9] - Quote Picture this if you will, piloting the MCC. "I love the smell of Warbarge Laser Strikes in the morning... Smells like, Victory!"
Mortishai Belmont G.L.O.R.Y Shadow of Dust 1	Posted - 2015.12.21 09:11:00 - [10] - Quote Apocalyptic Destroyer wrote: Because CCP ^ What he said The C.E.O. of G.L.O.R.Y, (~..)~ Now on Youtube ~(..~)

bwd23 Abyss of Universe Imperium Eden 69	Posted - 2015.12.21 13:06:00 - [11] - Quote http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fsveuHuCwgg
CELESTA AUNGM Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation 759	Posted - 2015.12.21 14:22:00 - [12] - Quote It's not goofy or weird to instantly die striking the MCC or Balos (RDV) with your Dropship. There is a game logic to it. It's actually the equivalent of ramming an HAV or ramming a DS that has much greater armour hp than your DS. The MCC has enormous armour hp, (the RDV is packed with some too). And it's just a rule you will come to learn as you get more advanced with your vehicle skills: In a hard impact, the vehicle with the greater armour will SHRED the vehicle with much less armour (even if your vehicle is stacked with a lot of SHIELD hp). That explains why several players here are pointing out that LANDING on an MCC is perfectly possible, and used to be done a LOT. A slower gentle contact with the MCC is tricky, but not lethal. (Entering the MCC with a DS is also poss---oops, maybe I shouldn't be telling you that stuff, err, ugh.) The point is, (changing the subject quickly...) as long as you don't knock into these service ships with any kind of speed, and you have generous armour on your DS, it's not an instant death----just an experience you don't want to repeat often. Other experiences you want to avoid as a DS student are the Air-to-Air Weapons the MCCs are firing at each other---they are "Missiles" (which means they're designed to eat armour), and are exponentially more destructive than any missile we shoot from our HAVs and Installations. They ARE instant death if you happen to fly right in the path of one. The Null Cannon PORT on the map is the same animal as the MCC-missiles. It's often hard to see, because it's not necessarily next to the Null panel. But it is a gun-muzzle firing a missile UP, then dropping DOWN onto an MCC. Five Null Letters on the map, means five muzzles planted on the map somewhere. DON'T carelessly swoop or hover over one----it's instant death, no matter what your armour. Remember, SHIELD absorbs energy, but not physical impact. ARMOUR is what's needed to absorb physical blows. And nothing can easily absorb the physical blow of Null Cannon rounds and MCC hulls. Universe of good wishes for the 49, especially CCP Eterne... No story can have life without writers and publishers.
Alcina Nektaria KILL-EM-QUICK Rise Of Legion. 492	Posted - 2015.12.21 15:00:00 - [13] - Quote Basically what it comes down to is that you are flying upward. In the case of the RDV, it is essentially moving and so are you so with combined force of hitting each other you get the insta death. In the case of the MCC, your thrusters are pushing you upwards and yeah.....you die. Those little nodes on the bottom of your dropship, the ones that come down when you are landing or have something below you? Yeah they protect you from exploding during a descent. Sometimes you will explode but lag has more to do with lag or just throwing your ship at the ground. Also....dropships don't have defenses...even against feathers. However, this is the most logical explanation I could offer you. D4GG3R is my mom. I have reason to suspect Archduke is a Sassy Pirate.
deezy dabest IMPERIAL SPECIAL FORCES GROUP Evil Syndicate Alliance. 4	Posted - 2015.12.21 16:33:00 - [14] - Quote Landing on the MCC is not very difficult. Just land softly and make sure you are not in the impact area of null missiles. S**T SANDWICHES ONLY 1000 ISK. DON'T MISS OUT.
Jadek Menaheim 1nner.Heaven 8	Posted - 2015.12.21 17:00:00 - [15] - Quote KEROSIINI-TERO wrote: Daemonn Adima wrote: Can anyone please tell me why its like this? Its insanely frustrating as a new pilot, one because I'm still learning Nand I make mistakes. But to die instantly just for lightly touching the MCC or RDV is just dumb. You already can get on top of any building, regardless of how close it is to the enemy redline. So landing on top of an MCC is no different. It is a common myth that MCC is instadeath for dropships. I've seen even expert players to have that illusion. It is possible to land on it - dropship intact. Yes, very easy to land on it; however impossible afaik to survive if you touch the underside of the MCC. Its a deterrent for people trying to land inside the MCC. Dust 514 Market Trello. The essential resource for trading in Dust.
Daemonn Adima Eternal Beings 698	Posted - 2015.12.21 17:44:00 - [16] - Quote Well I've bumped the MCC from multiple angles and varying speeds and each time I instantly lost all my shield and armor. Its not like I run full speed into them, the slightest touch destroys me. I even tried landing on top as a newb pilot, unknowing of MCC Godzilla anger. Insta death again. Im also not hitting them at "ramming" speeds. I'm talkin like light as a feather taps. Friggan CCP logic...
KEROSIINI-TERO The Rainbow Effect 2	Posted - 2015.12.21 18:32:00 - [17] - Quote Daemonn Adima wrote: KEROSIINI-TERO wrote: It is a common myth that MCC is instadeath for dropships. I've seen even expert players to have that illusion. It is possible to land on it - dropship intact. You shut your ***** mouth. Why? KERO-TRADER is my official Eve character for Dust trading. Search "KEROSKIN" for list of skins for sale!
shaman oga Dead Man's Game 5	Posted - 2015.12.21 18:36:00 - [18] - Quote BC they are pedo proof. Camouflage master =ƒÄà
Daemonn Adima Eternal Beings 699	Posted - 2015.12.21 18:43:00 - [19] - Quote shaman oga wrote: BC they are pedo proof. He's on to me...
Apoleon II Rooky rooks 33	Posted - 2015.12.21 18:56:00 - [20] - Quote I did it on my first day on dust, now is insta death? And one more thing, can you tell me your insta death ads fit? Because I tried to reach an insta death, but its impossible Sorry for my bad english :$

Alcina Nektaria KILL-EM-QUICK Rise Of Legion. 496	Posted - 2015.12.21 19:01:00 - [21] - Quote Apoleon II wrote: I did it on my first day on dust, now is insta death? And one more thing, can you tell me your insta death ads fit? Because I tried to reach an insta death, but its impossible I think he said he's new to it, so what I'm guessing is that he doesn't have skill in the right places to avoid being quite so 'splody D4GG3R is my mom. I have reason to suspect Archduke is a Sassy Pirate.
Daemonn Adima Eternal Beings 700	Posted - 2015.12.21 19:12:00 - [22] - Quote Apoleon II wrote: I did it on my first day on dust, now is insta death? And one more thing, can you tell me your insta death ads fit? Because I tried to reach an insta death, but its impossible You can touch/land on the MCC in game right now? Can you post a video or picture cause I'm in disbelief. My ADS is fit like this: Incubus 1 Basic Armor Plate 2 Basic Armor Hardners 1 Afterburner 1 Adv. Missle Turret
Daemonn Adima Eternal Beings 700	Posted - 2015.12.21 19:12:00 - [23] - Quote Alcina Nektaria wrote: Apoleon II wrote: I did it on my first day on dust, now is insta death? And one more thing, can you tell me your insta death ads fit? Because I tried to reach an insta death, but its impossible I think he said he's new to it, so what I'm guessing is that he doesn't have skill in the right places to avoid being quite so 'splody What skills would you recommend maxing out first for Incubus fits?
CELESTA AUNGM Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation 759	Posted - 2015.12.21 20:54:00 - [24] - Quote Daemonn Adima wrote: Well I've bumped the MCC from multiple angles and varying speeds and each time I instantly lost all my shield and armor. Its not like I run full speed into them, the slightest touch destroys me. I even tried landing on top as a newb pilot, unknowing of MCC Godzilla anger. Insta death again. Im also not hitting them at "ramming" speeds. I'm talkin like light as a feather taps. Friggan CCP logic... LOL, don't blame the CCP logic on this item. No, seriously. You don't know it, because you're a relatively new player, but you've chosen to play around with the HARDEST most frustrating item in the game...(many of us fell into the addictive trap of Drosphips, and drivers have got no one to blame but ourselves for persistently trying this thing that gets us mad). This game is supposed to be a foot-game. DS was never meant to be so popular and envious. Far to many players (calling ourselves "pilots") have the notion in our heads that we were able to pull of feats that "you-all other players are clearly too untalented to do".... but believe me Daemonn, all that talk is RUBBUSH, and too many of us are legends in our own minds. I learned never to think of a DS as aircraft. It's a horse. You have to keep pulling on reins to get it to do what you want, and tugging on it again to keep it standing in own place. If you're too gentle with a horse, it goes where it wants, not where you want. If you're too angry with the horse---it will smack you head into a tree just to get you off its back. And your idea of "gentle stop" is never the horse's idea of gentle. You may THINK you're making the right kinds of touchdowns. But..... But, most of all, my advice is DON'T take any DS player's suggestions that they are good, seriously. The GOOD players, don't even say it. The ones who seam to swagger every time they talk about the DS, don't rate passed shooting someone, hitting an afterburner, and using their hot air to successfully skirt injury. That's a hotshot pilot? Biiig-Woow! Universe of good wishes for the 49, especially CCP Eterne... No story can have life without writers and publishers.
Operative 1174 Uuali True Companion Planetary Requisitions 1	Posted - 2015.12.21 21:33:00 - [25] - Quote To each his own. They can make a difference. If you need your kills and high kdr though, stick to FOTM infantry. Suggestion, don't hit the MCC or call in a DS near other players calling things in. Also, don't touch certain areas of buildings. Just do some cheap infantry work to build your wallet back up and sell the salvage and warbarge items. CCP logic GÇô We fix what doesn't need breaking.
Operative 1174 Uuali True Companion Planetary Requisitions 1	Posted - 2015.12.21 21:44:00 - [26] - Quote CELESTA AUNGM wrote: Daemonn Adima wrote: Well I've bumped the MCC from multiple angles and varying speeds and each time I instantly lost all my shield and armor. Its not like I run full speed into them, the slightest touch destroys me. I even tried landing on top as a newb pilot, unknowing of MCC Godzilla anger. Insta death again. Im also not hitting them at "ramming" speeds. I'm talkin like light as a feather taps. Friggan CCP logic... LOL, don't blame the CCP logic on this item. No, seriously. You don't know it, because you're a relatively new player, but you've chosen to play around with the HARDEST most frustrating item in the game...(many of us fell into the addictive trap of Drosphips, and drivers have got no one to blame but ourselves for persistently trying this thing that gets us mad). This game is supposed to be a foot-game. DS was never meant to be so popular and envious. Far too many players (calling ourselves "pilots") have the notion in our heads that we were able to pull of feats that "ya'll other players clearly lack the talent to do".... but believe me Daemonn, all that talk is RUBBUSH, and too many of us are flying legends in our own minds. I learned never to think of a DS as aircraft. It's a horse. You have to keep digging spurs to get it to do what you want, and constantly pulling on reins to keep it to stand still for a little while. If you're too gentle with a horse, it goes where it wants to, not where you want. It stops to eat when it wants---it wee-wees when it's inconvenient for you. If you're too mean with the horse---it will smack your head into a tree just to end the ride and get you off its back. And your idea of "gentle stop" is never the horse's idea of gentle. You may THINK you're making the right kinds of touchdowns. But..... But, most of all, my advice is DON'T take any DS player's suggestions that they are good, seriously. The GOOD players, don't even say it. The ones who seam to swagger every time they talk about the DS, don't rate passed shooting someone, hitting an afterburner, and using their hot air to successfully skirt injury. That's a hotshot pilot? Biiig-Woow! I like to think of it more as a giant, floating whale and I'm surfing while guiding it inside its mouth. Its stomach juices slosh and cause it to sway and list. My liquor calms it. I can then perform flips and rolls, avoiding the lightning fish that dart past me. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=i1Nh_3JCFj8&t=01m40s CCP logic GÇô We fix what doesn't need breaking.
THEAMAZING POTHEAD House of Blue Leaves 1	Posted - 2015.12.21 21:58:00 - [27] - Quote you can land on the mcc slowly with the bottom of your derpship and take minimal damage, but it will eventually and suddenly drop to 0 hp and explode, usually before you can recall it, and AS you're recalling it(hope you weren't in a scout thales suit!) as for rdvs they will usually instakill you but there are times(usually with a hardener on) when u can tap the rdv and get away with 200 hp. As for the reason this happens- in closed beta vehicles took very little collision damage and would stomp infantry like a giant foot, so they vastly increased collision damage to the point that tapping things is insta death. Corps: P.R.O.---O.H.---Not Guilty/Pure Innocence---Nyain San---T.o.P.
Daemonn Adima Eternal Beings 703	Posted - 2015.12.21 23:21:00 - [28] - Quote Operative 1174 Uuali wrote: CELESTA AUNGM wrote: Daemonn Adima wrote: Well I've bumped the MCC from multiple angles and varying speeds and each time I instantly lost all my shield and armor. Its not like I run full speed into them, the slightest touch destroys me. I even tried landing on top as a newb pilot, unknowing of MCC Godzilla anger. Insta death again. Im also not hitting them at "ramming" speeds. I'm talkin like light as a feather taps. Friggan CCP logic... LOL, don't blame the CCP logic on this item. No, seriously. You don't know it, because you're a relatively new player, but you've chosen to play around with the HARDEST most frustrating item in the game...(many of us fell into the addictive trap of Drosphips, and drivers have got no one to blame but ourselves for persistently trying this thing that gets us mad). This game is supposed to be a foot-game. DS was never meant to be so popular and envious. Far too many players (calling ourselves "pilots") have the notion in our heads that we were able to pull of feats that "ya'll other players clearly lack the talent to do".... but believe me Daemonn, all that talk is RUBBUSH, and too many of us are flying legends in our own minds. I learned never to think of a DS as aircraft. It's a horse. You have to keep digging spurs to get it to do what you want, and constantly pulling on reins to keep it to stand still for a little while. If you're too gentle with a horse, it goes where it wants to, not where you want. It stops to eat when it wants---it wee-wees when it's inconvenient for you. If you're too mean with the horse---it will smack your head into a tree just to end the ride and get you off its back. And your idea of "gentle stop" is never the horse's idea of gentle. You may THINK you're making the right kinds of touchdowns. But..... But, most of all, my advice is DON'T take any DS player's suggestions that they are good, seriously. The GOOD players, don't even say it. The ones who seam to swagger every time they talk about the DS, don't rate passed shooting someone, hitting an afterburner, and using their hot air to successfully skirt injury. That's a hotshot pilot? Biiig-Woow! I like to think of it more as a giant, floating whale and I'm surfing while guiding it inside its mouth. Its stomach juices slosh and cause it to sway and list. My liquor calms it. I can then perform flips and rolls, avoiding the lightning fish that dart past me. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=i1Nh_3JCFj8&t=01m40s Anyone able to get in game and land on an MCC and provide pictures or a video? People keep saying its possible but I've never seen it or been able to do it. Perhaps somethings have changed in terms of collision damage, 4.5k EHP feels like I'm flying a paper mache dropship.
KEROSIINI-TERO The Rainbow Effect 2	Posted - 2015.12.22 03:36:00 - [29] - Quote Daemonn Adima wrote: You can touch/land on the MCC in game right now? Can you post a video or picture cause I'm in disbelief. Well how about this? https://youtu.be/pQK92BgMXxA KERO-TRADER is my official Eve character for Dust trading. Search "KEROSKIN" for list of skins for sale!
Daemonn Adima Eternal Beings 704	Posted - 2015.12.22 03:45:00 - [30] - Quote KEROSIINI-TERO wrote: Daemonn Adima wrote: You can touch/land on the MCC in game right now? Can you post a video or picture cause I'm in disbelief. Daemonn Adima wrote: Anyone able to get in game and land on an MCC and provide pictures or a video? People keep saying its possible but I've never seen it or been able to do it. Well how about this? https://youtu.be/pQK92BgMXxA Well slap my ass and call me Sally.



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