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Xvos Reigns
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Posted - 2015.12.13 21:55:00 -
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This need moved to features and ideas discussion.
Along with this - proposed logistics balance
Hey archduke, frame, or ratatti can we get these moved? |
Satanic Fister
Paladin Survey Force
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.12.13 21:57:00 -
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Xvos Reigns wrote:This need moved to features and ideas discussion. Along with this - proposed logistics balanceHey archduke, frame, or ratatti can we get these moved?
To where It'll Never Be Seen again? 
"It's like a porcupine with down syndrome... you know it wants hugs but they don't know the pain they cause..."
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Summa Militum
Abstract Requiem
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Posted - 2015.12.13 21:57:00 -
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Satanic Fister wrote:Himiko Kuronaga wrote:A single jump is not a threat. Multiple jumps are a threat.
Therefore introduce stamina penalty on jump for every myofib, making it so only a single jump is possible.
Problem solved. K then I'll stack 4 cmplx card regs on an amarr assault and just negate all of what you just said...
Does that actually sound like a good idea to you? |
Arirana
Ancient Exiles.
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Posted - 2015.12.13 21:58:00 -
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Satanic Fister wrote:To where It'll Never Be Seen again?
The ugly truth, GD functions like a feedback section better than the feedback section.
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Derrith Erador
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2015.12.13 22:00:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Regardless of what he uses, is it not important to review the merits of the OP's suggestion?
Using logic now are we?! You'd best split there boy, them GD'ers don't like ur kind 'round here.
These be the kind they like round here.
99% of what Derrith says is stupidity. -D3lta Blitzkrieg
Bittervet ADS pilot, redheads are hot.
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Derrith Erador
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2015.12.13 22:05:00 -
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But on a serious note, I think that Myofibs should just not get the jump thing period.
In my twilight days, I chose to run around punching people pre jump bonus, and it was hilarious. First because you got killed by me on the ground, true shame there, and with fists no less. Then they added the stupid jumping thing and melee just wasn't humiliating anymore, so therefore not fun.
The problem with CCP buffing this was that they're trying too hard to make this game competitive in every fashion. But sometimes you need to put an outlet for pointless douchebaggery. PLCs, ADS (only in good hands), punchy's, and nova knives all had their time in that sun, but with all these damn buffs, they're no longer fun.
That's my two cents on it anyway.
99% of what Derrith says is stupidity. -D3lta Blitzkrieg
Bittervet ADS pilot, redheads are hot.
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rayakalj9
Opus Arcana
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Posted - 2015.12.13 23:01:00 -
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Varoth Drac wrote:I agree there's a problem, but I don't agree with slowing jump speed. It would seem really weird from a physics point of view, and wouldn't let you jump further.
I suggest increasing the stamina cost of myo jumps to prevent repeated jumping. Perhaps a single jump with triple myos should completely deplete your stamina. This would allow them to be used for positioning, but less so for evasion.
Also proper stacking penalties would be good, would help reign them in a bit.
One question do you even know what are you talking about?? because increasing the stamina cost of myo jumps won't solve it like that, your just killing it for myo jump users Arirana idea of trying to balance the myo jump mod is ten times better than the one you just come up with
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Himiko Kuronaga
Fatal Absolution
Bleeding Sun Conglomerate
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Posted - 2015.12.13 23:23:00 -
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Arirana wrote:Himiko Kuronaga wrote:A single jump is not a threat. Multiple jumps are a threat.
Therefore introduce stamina penalty on jump for every myofib, making it so only a single jump is possible.
Problem solved. I understand that this fix will work but you guys just don't seem to get it. Its not taboo to make a game less real if it means we will enjoy it more, and its not a necessity to spoil the fun to make the game fair. Its the right idea but the wrong approach, the root of the problem needs to be addressed rather than tagging it with a condition.
I don't personally see a single high speed jump as a problem. I see it as an advantage with a clear downside.
Slowing down the jump itself would work, but I personally think it'd look and feel awkward and be fairly gimpy for most intended purposes.
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One Eyed King
Nos Nothi
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Posted - 2015.12.13 23:26:00 -
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I thought I would bring this up from Features and Ideas since its on the same topic, and brings up something interesting.
Celus Ivara wrote:
As a side note, CCP attained the higher jump height by having Myos decrease the player's gravity variable.
A more intuitive and realistic (note though, I didn't say "better") method would be to instead increase the initial jump speed.
The present system causes the player to float in air.
The downside of this is that more time in air means the player can spam more explosives.
Hypothetically though, it's balanced by the player also being more vulnerable in air because they're stuck floating there on a "slow", fixed vector with little-to-no cover.
...just something to think about.
If this is true, "Jump Speed" would have nothing to do with the problem directly.
This is the first time I have really heard one way or another what exactly influences the extra jump height. I don't know which is the actual case, but it seems to me that we should be certain of what numbers are influenced if we are going to come to solutions with any real benefits.
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ANON Cerberus
TerranProtossZerg
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Posted - 2015.12.13 23:35:00 -
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Derrith Erador wrote:But on a serious note, I think that Myofibs should just not get the jump thing period.
In my twilight days, I chose to run around punching people pre jump bonus, and it was hilarious. First because you got killed by me on the ground, true shame there, and with fists no less. Then they added the stupid jumping thing and melee just wasn't humiliating anymore, so therefore not fun.
The problem with CCP buffing this was that they're trying too hard to make this game competitive in every fashion. But sometimes you need to put an outlet for pointless douchebaggery. PLCs, ADS (only in good hands), punchy's, and nova knives all had their time in that sun, but with all these damn buffs, they're no longer fun.
That's my two cents on it anyway.
PLC is always fun I love it!
However The python is about as UP as UP gets in this game. Thanks to all of the ******* tears from certain idiot biased CPM 1 members of the past I say.... |
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Krixus Flux
Kang Lo Directorate
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.12.13 23:39:00 -
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Well would you look at that? Mr. Melee Glitch abuser himself! Lol!
Saying what's on people's minds
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Derrith Erador
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2015.12.13 23:42:00 -
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ANON Cerberus wrote:Derrith Erador wrote:But on a serious note, I think that Myofibs should just not get the jump thing period.
In my twilight days, I chose to run around punching people pre jump bonus, and it was hilarious. First because you got killed by me on the ground, true shame there, and with fists no less. Then they added the stupid jumping thing and melee just wasn't humiliating anymore, so therefore not fun.
The problem with CCP buffing this was that they're trying too hard to make this game competitive in every fashion. But sometimes you need to put an outlet for pointless douchebaggery. PLCs, ADS (only in good hands), punchy's, and nova knives all had their time in that sun, but with all these damn buffs, they're no longer fun.
That's my two cents on it anyway. PLC is always fun I love it! However The python is about as UP as UP gets in this game. Thanks to all of the ******* tears from certain idiot biased CPM 1 members of the past I say....
Sir I don't mean to offend you in any way, but read my sig. I know all too well the crap my baby went through because of those guys.
99% of what Derrith says is stupidity. -D3lta Blitzkrieg
Bittervet ADS pilot, redheads are hot.
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Freshbrood Clan Strife
The First Sons
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Posted - 2015.12.14 02:12:00 -
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A fair nerf to jumpies would be to make them decelerate faster.
Currently, the gravity physics are too light, and with enough myo's, they seem to "hover" in the air for 5 seconds more than jump.
At least make them land faster if you won't nerf the height limit. Be reasonable.
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KEROSIINI-TERO
The Rainbow Effect
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Posted - 2015.12.14 05:04:00 -
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Or, another fix:
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=3051485#post3051485
add a charge requirement for high jumps.
Meaning, in order to get the highest jump, the player has to pre-press the jump button longer and maybe be 'semi-crouched' while doing so.
No more instant vanishing via myojump.
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Arirana
Ancient Exiles.
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Posted - 2015.12.14 05:15:00 -
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It's a great idea but realistically that would take a lot of effort to implement and CCP isn't known for that lately.
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