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HOLY PERFECTION
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Posted - 2015.12.13 00:10:00 -
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Why is a character banned when they impersonate another character. I understand why you can get banned when you impersonate a cop; or another person in real life. But that is a different story from in game to real life.
If you impersonate someone in real life, you are risking that persons actual data. Like bank card, SS number etc. If you lie to a cop, then that is against the law isn't it. The difference is that in Dust you are in game. Unless the person is illegally trying to get information about the other person online; they should not be banned.
So, why are in game accounts getting banned for " impersonation ". Its not like its real life or anything of that nature. If you believe that person poses a threat to your account, like a hacker. Then, report them to PSN.
I think the reason that they ban certain players is to keep the playerbase form whining like a bunch of babys. I mean you guys already do that a lot. Whine whine OP whine whine UP. Whine whine port.
NO #portdust its #STFU
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Jadek Menaheim
1nner.Heaven
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Posted - 2015.12.13 00:16:00 -
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New challenge. Impersonate the OP and demonstrate the issues player impersonation causes to a person's reputation.
Change upper case 'i' to lower case 'L'
'HOLY PERFECTlON'
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HOLY PERFECTION
Company of Marcher Lords
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.12.13 00:17:00 -
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Jadek Menaheim wrote:New challenge. Impersonate the OP and demonstrate the issues player impersonation causes.
Change upper case 'i' to lower case 'L'
'HOLY PERFECTlON'
boo hoo my reputation welcome to dust
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HOLY PERFECTION
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Posted - 2015.12.13 00:18:00 -
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I see why people care so much about people impersonating.....
they aint got no life
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Viktor Hadah Jr
0uter.Heaven
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Posted - 2015.12.13 00:19:00 -
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HOLY PERFECTION wrote:I understand why you can get banned when you impersonate a cop; or another person in real life.
Getting banned IRL is the worst don't even play around with that sh*t
I'm kind of a big deal.
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Jadek Menaheim
1nner.Heaven
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Posted - 2015.12.13 00:21:00 -
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It's a headache for players involved in trading. Rep is pretty much all you have. When some little **** takes a dump on your identity by impersonating your account for the lolz that's more harassment than 'welcome to New Eden.'
I haven't had this issue. I scooped up all the variations of my name. PSN accounts are free after all.
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HOLY PERFECTION
Company of Marcher Lords
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.12.13 00:22:00 -
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Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:HOLY PERFECTION wrote:I understand why you can get banned when you impersonate a cop; or another person in real life. Getting banned IRL is the worst don't even play around with that sh*t
ha sorry I should have read it over. Thanks for catching my mistake, I meant arrested. I was on the subject of banning, and dust. So I guess I just accidently put banned in there. 07
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Forever ETC
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Posted - 2015.12.13 00:26:00 -
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HOLY PERFECTION wrote:I see why people care so much about people impersonating.....
they aint got no life
Same can go for the person impersonating. They go out of their way to create a character and impersonate somone else in order to ruin their reputation, scam, and perform actions that could risk relations of that character with other corps.
AmarrFTW
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HOLY PERFECTION
Company of Marcher Lords
Amarr Empire
169
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Posted - 2015.12.13 00:27:00 -
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Jadek Menaheim wrote:It's a headache for players involved in trading. Rep is pretty much all you have. When some little **** takes a dump on your identity by impersonating your account for the lolz that's more harassment than 'welcome to New Eden.'
I haven't had this issue. I scooped up all the variations of my name. PSN accounts are free after all.
I understand your frustration, however let me give you an example as of how I see it. This is a free to play game, you are not doing any actual harm by scamming. So ccp lets people scam and everything; I get that. But they ban someone for impersonating a FAKE non - existing account.
And reputation its the only thing you have; however I'm sorry to inform you its a trust based game. If your stupid enough to not read names, and make sure that its the right person, its on you.
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HOLY PERFECTION
Company of Marcher Lords
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.12.13 00:29:00 -
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Forever ETC wrote:HOLY PERFECTION wrote:I see why people care so much about people impersonating.....
they aint got no life Same can go for the person impersonating. They go out of their way to create a character and impersonate somone else in order to ruin their reputation, scam, and perform actions that could risk relations of that character with other corps.
Guys whats the deal with reputation, boo hoo if others think your bad. They are not hurting CCP, or your actual real account. If you care so much about your reputation you shouldn't. You and your friends know your not who people say you are. So why care what some noob sais, right?
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Posted - 2015.12.13 00:35:00 -
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HOLY PERFECTION wrote:Forever ETC wrote:HOLY PERFECTION wrote:I see why people care so much about people impersonating.....
they aint got no life Same can go for the person impersonating. They go out of their way to create a character and impersonate somone else in order to ruin their reputation, scam, and perform actions that could risk relations of that character with other corps. Guys whats the deal with reputation, boo hoo if others think your bad. They are not hurting CCP, or your actual real account. If you care so much about your reputation you shouldn't. You and your friends know your not who people say you are. So why care what some noob sais, right?
It matters because it works. Or else why would someone deliberately make an account with similar info of another? Besides it is against the rules to impersonate someone's account.
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HOLY PERFECTION
Company of Marcher Lords
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.12.13 00:41:00 -
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Forever ETC wrote:HOLY PERFECTION wrote:Forever ETC wrote:HOLY PERFECTION wrote:I see why people care so much about people impersonating.....
they aint got no life Same can go for the person impersonating. They go out of their way to create a character and impersonate somone else in order to ruin their reputation, scam, and perform actions that could risk relations of that character with other corps. Guys whats the deal with reputation, boo hoo if others think your bad. They are not hurting CCP, or your actual real account. If you care so much about your reputation you shouldn't. You and your friends know your not who people say you are. So why care what some noob sais, right? It matters because it works. Or else why would someone deliberately make an account with similar info of another? Besides it is against the rules to impersonate someone's account.
That's why I'm asking, that why you get banned if you impersonate a FAKE account and scam. But you don't get banned when you scam and don't impersonate.
You might as well just ban scamming. Oh so you can scam, but you cant scam impersonating someone elses account. Its stupid, and completely illogical. Impersonating is a method of scamming. You cant say its ok to scam, then ban all methods of scamming.
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Posted - 2015.12.13 01:05:00 -
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What do you mean by "Fake" account? Aren't all accounts created in game real? You'd still get banned for impersonating someone else even if you didn't use that account solely for scamming. If you wanna scam someone go ahead use your main or create an alt, no need to steal identity unless if you want to cause harm to that person.
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HOLY PERFECTION
Company of Marcher Lords
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.12.13 01:22:00 -
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Forever ETC wrote:What do you mean by "Fake" account? Aren't all accounts created in game real? You'd still get banned for impersonating someone else even if you didn't use that account solely for scamming. If you wanna scam someone go ahead use your main or create an alt, no need to steal identity unless if you want to cause harm to that person.
FAKE as in it has no relation to the real physical world we actually live in. You cannot steal someones information online by claiming you are someone else. There is no way; therefore it is illogical for CCP to ban people for impersonating a in game account.
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Summa Militum
Abstract Requiem
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Posted - 2015.12.13 01:40:00 -
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HOLY PERFECTION wrote:Why is a character banned when they impersonate another character. I understand why you can get arrested when you impersonate a cop; or another person in real life. But that is a different story from in game to real life.
If you impersonate someone in real life, you are risking that persons actual data. Like bank card, SS number etc. If you lie to a cop, then that is against the law isn't it. The difference is that in Dust you are in game. Unless the person is illegally trying to get information about the other person online; they should not be banned.
So, why are in game accounts getting banned for " impersonation ". Its not like its real life or anything of that nature. If you believe that person poses a threat to your account, like a hacker. Then, report them to PSN.
I think the reason that they ban certain players is to keep the playerbase form whining like a bunch of babys. I mean you guys already do that a lot. Whine whine OP whine whine UP. Whine whine port.
NO #portdust its #STFU
The fact that you are even asking this question directly reflects how much of a piece of **** you are in real life.
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HOLY PERFECTION
Company of Marcher Lords
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.12.13 01:42:00 -
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Summa Militum wrote:HOLY PERFECTION wrote:Why is a character banned when they impersonate another character. I understand why you can get arrested when you impersonate a cop; or another person in real life. But that is a different story from in game to real life.
If you impersonate someone in real life, you are risking that persons actual data. Like bank card, SS number etc. If you lie to a cop, then that is against the law isn't it. The difference is that in Dust you are in game. Unless the person is illegally trying to get information about the other person online; they should not be banned.
So, why are in game accounts getting banned for " impersonation ". Its not like its real life or anything of that nature. If you believe that person poses a threat to your account, like a hacker. Then, report them to PSN.
I think the reason that they ban certain players is to keep the playerbase form whining like a bunch of babys. I mean you guys already do that a lot. Whine whine OP whine whine UP. Whine whine port.
NO #portdust its #STFU The fact that you are even asking this question directly reflects how much of a piece of **** you are in real life.
What??? explain your reasoning please or Ill have to report you for use of offensive language.
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HOLY PERFECTION
Company of Marcher Lords
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.12.13 01:51:00 -
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Summa Militum wrote:HOLY PERFECTION wrote:Why is a character banned when they impersonate another character. I understand why you can get arrested when you impersonate a cop; or another person in real life. But that is a different story from in game to real life.
If you impersonate someone in real life, you are risking that persons actual data. Like bank card, SS number etc. If you lie to a cop, then that is against the law isn't it. The difference is that in Dust you are in game. Unless the person is illegally trying to get information about the other person online; they should not be banned.
So, why are in game accounts getting banned for " impersonation ". Its not like its real life or anything of that nature. If you believe that person poses a threat to your account, like a hacker. Then, report them to PSN.
I think the reason that they ban certain players is to keep the playerbase form whining like a bunch of babys. I mean you guys already do that a lot. Whine whine OP whine whine UP. Whine whine port.
NO #portdust its #STFU The fact that you are even asking this question directly reflects how much of a piece of **** you are in real life.
If I'm such a mean guy then you are technically violating :
2. Be respectful toward others at all times.
The purpose of the DUST 514 forums is to provide a platform for exchange of ideas, and a venue for the discussion of DUST 514. Occasionally there will be conflicts that arise when people voice opinions. Forum users are expected to be courteous when disagreeing with others.
4. Personal attacks are prohibited.
Commonly known as flaming, personal attacks are posts that are designed to personally berate or insult another forum user. Posts of this nature are not beneficial to the community spirit that CCP promote and as such they will not be tolerated.
And please let me remind you of the consequences:
Reprimand Policy
The DUST 514 Community Team operates a tiered system of warnings and associated forum suspensions of various lengths, depending on the severity and number of transgressions of the rules.
The list below shows the structure of our warning and suspension policy. Please be aware that if a transgression of the rules is severe enough, this policy may be bypassed completely in favor of permanent revocation of a forum userGÇÖs posting privileges.
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Posted - 2015.12.13 01:51:00 -
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HOLY PERFECTION wrote:Summa Militum wrote:HOLY PERFECTION wrote:Why is a character banned when they impersonate another character. I understand why you can get arrested when you impersonate a cop; or another person in real life. But that is a different story from in game to real life.
If you impersonate someone in real life, you are risking that persons actual data. Like bank card, SS number etc. If you lie to a cop, then that is against the law isn't it. The difference is that in Dust you are in game. Unless the person is illegally trying to get information about the other person online; they should not be banned.
So, why are in game accounts getting banned for " impersonation ". Its not like its real life or anything of that nature. If you believe that person poses a threat to your account, like a hacker. Then, report them to PSN.
I think the reason that they ban certain players is to keep the playerbase form whining like a bunch of babys. I mean you guys already do that a lot. Whine whine OP whine whine UP. Whine whine port.
NO #portdust its #STFU The fact that you are even asking this question directly reflects how much of a piece of **** you are in real life. What??? explain your reasoning please or Ill have to report you for use of offensive language.
This is hilarious! You are threating to have him banned for 1 word, yet stealing someone's online identity is okay with you?
Bravo sir, the logic is well with you
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Bax Zanith
Sinfonia1898
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Posted - 2015.12.13 01:57:00 -
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Define "Fake Account" and how it is different from a "Real account."
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HOLY PERFECTION
Company of Marcher Lords
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.12.13 01:57:00 -
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Forever ETC wrote:HOLY PERFECTION wrote:Summa Militum wrote:HOLY PERFECTION wrote:Why is a character banned when they impersonate another character. I understand why you can get arrested when you impersonate a cop; or another person in real life. But that is a different story from in game to real life.
If you impersonate someone in real life, you are risking that persons actual data. Like bank card, SS number etc. If you lie to a cop, then that is against the law isn't it. The difference is that in Dust you are in game. Unless the person is illegally trying to get information about the other person online; they should not be banned.
So, why are in game accounts getting banned for " impersonation ". Its not like its real life or anything of that nature. If you believe that person poses a threat to your account, like a hacker. Then, report them to PSN.
I think the reason that they ban certain players is to keep the playerbase form whining like a bunch of babys. I mean you guys already do that a lot. Whine whine OP whine whine UP. Whine whine port.
NO #portdust its #STFU The fact that you are even asking this question directly reflects how much of a piece of **** you are in real life. What??? explain your reasoning please or Ill have to report you for use of offensive language. This is hilarious! You are threating to have him banned for 1 word, yet stealing someone's online identity is okay with you? Bravo sir, the logic is well with you
It is kind of ironic isn't it ha. But I'm sorry but your wrong. He was calling me a mean name  that was not true. Which is in fact against regulation. But my reason makes perfect logical since. If you tell someone to f off, that is physically and mentally troubling. And you can even go as far as suing the person if they threaten your life. Impersonation without physically or hacking the other persons account, shouldn't be bannable. Nice try though.
But yes the only real reason I posted the regulations was because I don't like him all that much.
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HOLY PERFECTION
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Posted - 2015.12.13 02:01:00 -
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Bax Zanith wrote:Define "Fake Account" and how it is different from a "Real account."
Fake account : any on game name that doesn't connect to your actual psn that can risk you real life information.
Real account : your actual psn containing your actual important data. ( this is impossible to do since you cannot create two of the same accounts. ( EXAMPLE credit cards, transaction statements, etc. )
So I was just trying to compare two different things so people would hopefully get my point better.
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Summa Militum
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Posted - 2015.12.13 02:06:00 -
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HOLY PERFECTION wrote:Summa Militum wrote:HOLY PERFECTION wrote:Why is a character banned when they impersonate another character. I understand why you can get arrested when you impersonate a cop; or another person in real life. But that is a different story from in game to real life.
If you impersonate someone in real life, you are risking that persons actual data. Like bank card, SS number etc. If you lie to a cop, then that is against the law isn't it. The difference is that in Dust you are in game. Unless the person is illegally trying to get information about the other person online; they should not be banned.
So, why are in game accounts getting banned for " impersonation ". Its not like its real life or anything of that nature. If you believe that person poses a threat to your account, like a hacker. Then, report them to PSN.
I think the reason that they ban certain players is to keep the playerbase form whining like a bunch of babys. I mean you guys already do that a lot. Whine whine OP whine whine UP. Whine whine port.
NO #portdust its #STFU The fact that you are even asking this question directly reflects how much of a piece of **** you are in real life. What??? explain your reasoning please or Ill have to report you for use of offensive language.
I actually didn't use any offensive language. I have a good understanding of what words are censored on the forums so when it comes time for me to type a word that would be censored I instead type out the appropriate number of asterisks for that particular word.
What you view as an offensive word in my previous post is actually just the result of me holding down the shift key and pressing the number 8 key four times.
Now I will explain my reasoning behind my assessment of what you just said. What you asked shows an out of sight, out of mind mentality towards the actions that you would make in life. Based on these few posts we have here in this thread no one can assess to what extent you will take this mindset but we can assess that you are the type of person who will choose a negative course of action in life so long as the negative consequences don't immediately or directly affect you. What makes it worse is that you will blind yourself morally in an attempt to deny or justify the negative action. |
Summa Militum
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Posted - 2015.12.13 02:11:00 -
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HOLY PERFECTION wrote:Forever ETC wrote:HOLY PERFECTION wrote:Summa Militum wrote:HOLY PERFECTION wrote:Why is a character banned when they impersonate another character. I understand why you can get arrested when you impersonate a cop; or another person in real life. But that is a different story from in game to real life.
If you impersonate someone in real life, you are risking that persons actual data. Like bank card, SS number etc. If you lie to a cop, then that is against the law isn't it. The difference is that in Dust you are in game. Unless the person is illegally trying to get information about the other person online; they should not be banned.
So, why are in game accounts getting banned for " impersonation ". Its not like its real life or anything of that nature. If you believe that person poses a threat to your account, like a hacker. Then, report them to PSN.
I think the reason that they ban certain players is to keep the playerbase form whining like a bunch of babys. I mean you guys already do that a lot. Whine whine OP whine whine UP. Whine whine port.
NO #portdust its #STFU The fact that you are even asking this question directly reflects how much of a piece of **** you are in real life. What??? explain your reasoning please or Ill have to report you for use of offensive language. This is hilarious! You are threating to have him banned for 1 word, yet stealing someone's online identity is okay with you? Bravo sir, the logic is well with you It is kind of ironic isn't it ha. But I'm sorry but your wrong. He was calling me a mean name that was not true. Which is in fact against regulation. But my reason makes perfect logical since. If you tell someone to f off, that is physically and mentally troubling. And you can even go as far as suing the person if they threaten your life. Impersonation without physically or hacking the other persons account, shouldn't be bannable. Nice try though. But yes the only real reason I posted the regulations was because I don't like him all that much.
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Posted - 2015.12.13 02:13:00 -
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HOLY PERFECTION wrote:Forever ETC wrote:HOLY PERFECTION wrote:Summa Militum wrote:HOLY PERFECTION wrote:Why is a character banned when they impersonate another character. I understand why you can get arrested when you impersonate a cop; or another person in real life. But that is a different story from in game to real life.
If you impersonate someone in real life, you are risking that persons actual data. Like bank card, SS number etc. If you lie to a cop, then that is against the law isn't it. The difference is that in Dust you are in game. Unless the person is illegally trying to get information about the other person online; they should not be banned.
So, why are in game accounts getting banned for " impersonation ". Its not like its real life or anything of that nature. If you believe that person poses a threat to your account, like a hacker. Then, report them to PSN.
I think the reason that they ban certain players is to keep the playerbase form whining like a bunch of babys. I mean you guys already do that a lot. Whine whine OP whine whine UP. Whine whine port.
NO #portdust its #STFU The fact that you are even asking this question directly reflects how much of a piece of **** you are in real life. What??? explain your reasoning please or Ill have to report you for use of offensive language. This is hilarious! You are threating to have him banned for 1 word, yet stealing someone's online identity is okay with you? Bravo sir, the logic is well with you It is kind of ironic isn't it ha. But I'm sorry but your wrong. He was calling me a mean name that was not true. Which is in fact against regulation. But my reason makes perfect logical since. If you tell someone to f off, that is physically and mentally troubling. And you can even go as far as suing the person if they threaten your life. Impersonation without physically or hacking the other persons account, shouldn't be bannable. Nice try though. But yes the only real reason I posted the regulations was because I don't like him all that much.
What if it hurts my feelings when someone goes around using my name and info calling out other corps to fight, scamming others, and thus potentially getting kicked from a trade channel and Corp. All for something I didn't do... That makes me sad, so I should be able to ban the person who caused all this? Right? I mean my feelings are all hurt because everyone bow thinks I'm a scammed and *******.
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HOLY PERFECTION
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Posted - 2015.12.13 02:16:00 -
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Summa Militum wrote:HOLY PERFECTION wrote:Summa Militum wrote:HOLY PERFECTION wrote:Why is a character banned when they impersonate another character. I understand why you can get arrested when you impersonate a cop; or another person in real life. But that is a different story from in game to real life.
If you impersonate someone in real life, you are risking that persons actual data. Like bank card, SS number etc. If you lie to a cop, then that is against the law isn't it. The difference is that in Dust you are in game. Unless the person is illegally trying to get information about the other person online; they should not be banned.
So, why are in game accounts getting banned for " impersonation ". Its not like its real life or anything of that nature. If you believe that person poses a threat to your account, like a hacker. Then, report them to PSN.
I think the reason that they ban certain players is to keep the playerbase form whining like a bunch of babys. I mean you guys already do that a lot. Whine whine OP whine whine UP. Whine whine port.
NO #portdust its #STFU The fact that you are even asking this question directly reflects how much of a piece of **** you are in real life. What??? explain your reasoning please or Ill have to report you for use of offensive language. I actually didn't use any offensive language. I have a good understanding of what words are censored on the forums so when it comes time for me to type a word that would be censored I instead type out the appropriate number of asterisks for that particular word. What you view as an offensive word in my previous post is actually just the result of me holding down the shift key and pressing the number 8 key four times. Now I will explain my reasoning behind my assessment of what you just said. What you asked shows an out of sight, out of mind mentality towards the actions that you would make in life. Based on these few posts we have here in this thread no one can assess to what extent you will take this mindset but we can assess that you are the type of person who will choose a negative course of action in life so long as the negative consequences don't immediately or directly affect you. What makes it worse is that you will blind yourself morally in an attempt to deny or justify the negative action.
Finally about time you had a response, I thought you ran off. I am well aware of what mental state I am in. And I am also aware that reputation is very important to some people. However scamming is very important to other people as well.
As for the offensive language part really dude. I can obviously make out what your trying to say; however none the less you are correct. I will be keeping a close eye on you my friend XD
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HOLY PERFECTION
Company of Marcher Lords
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.12.13 02:20:00 -
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I'm sorry your reputation can get hurt, however that's not harmful. Lets get back to the main point here your getting off topic. Your feelings are out of control, I understand your frustration. When you get mad you get mad. Does it give you the right to just ban somebody? NO So just because it affects your reputation it gives CCP the right to Ban a person. No it doesn't. So I am right, I justified my reasoning. I'm sorry if it hurts your reputation, feelings, etc. but welcome to the real world my friend. Feelings get hurt 
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HOLY PERFECTION
Company of Marcher Lords
Amarr Empire
169
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Posted - 2015.12.13 02:22:00 -
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oh I'm sorry summa your my friend. I should have been clearer, I meant I don't like your language.07
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Posted - 2015.12.13 02:35:00 -
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Let me get this straight first, why would YOU want to you someone else's name and information in game?
AmarrFTW
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jordy mack
WarRavens
Imperium Eden
996
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Posted - 2015.12.13 02:46:00 -
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this thread is hard to read, y'all should proof read your **** before posting
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Posted - 2015.12.13 02:55:00 -
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jordy mack wrote:this thread is hard to read, y'all should proof read your **** before posting
My bad, SwiftKey got a new update and it's been acting wonky. Will keep an eye out for future posts.
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HOLY PERFECTION
Company of Marcher Lords
Amarr Empire
169
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Posted - 2015.12.13 03:15:00 -
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Out of all the people replying on this topic, as this is apparently sensitive. Are there any CPM, GM, or DEV members willing to comment. As they the people of dust might listen to your opinion, as they see you as gods not devs.
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Twelve Guage
Random Gunz
Rise Of Legion.
1
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Posted - 2015.12.13 03:26:00 -
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I honestly can't believe that this even needs to be ask.
Here's some better question. What's in it for the people who are trying to be honest trailers? Why should they have to fight tooth and nail with someone who is impersonating them without there being any repercussions towards the person impersonating them. Why do you think this wouldn't hurt the game and ccp bottom dollar at all?
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HOLY PERFECTION
Company of Marcher Lords
Amarr Empire
169
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Posted - 2015.12.13 04:05:00 -
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Twelve Guage wrote:
I honestly can't believe that this even needs to be ask.
Here's some better question. What's in it for the people who are trying to be honest trailers? Why should they have to fight tooth and nail with someone who is impersonating them without there being any repercussions towards the person impersonating them. Why do you think this wouldn't hurt the game and ccp bottom dollar at all?
Look, the best answer I can give you is look out for the names. It is 100% your fault if you give X player your money. You clicked the button, not him. He fooled you, not the other way around. Just pay attention, unless he is causing actual harm ( besides your feelings getting hurt, or your reputation) then its ok. Your friends know you, and they know you are not a scammer. So really, plus you got a blacklist, so if you get scammed. Report it there, then everyone will be cautious.
Just the idea of you can scam is ok. But banning methods of scamming is not ok in my mind.
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KEROSIINI-TERO
The Rainbow Effect
2
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Posted - 2015.12.13 04:09:00 -
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HOLY PERFECTION wrote:Jadek Menaheim wrote:New challenge. Impersonate the OP and demonstrate the issues player impersonation causes.
Change upper case 'i' to lower case 'L'
'HOLY PERFECTlON' boo hoo my reputation welcome to dust
You... Scammer!
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HOLY PERFECTION
Company of Marcher Lords
Amarr Empire
169
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Posted - 2015.12.13 04:12:00 -
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@ETC
Are you asking me why I would want their information?
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Twelve Guage
Random Gunz
Rise Of Legion.
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Posted - 2015.12.13 04:16:00 -
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HOLY PERFECTION wrote:Twelve Guage wrote:
I honestly can't believe that this even needs to be ask.
Here's some better question. What's in it for the people who are trying to be honest trailers? Why should they have to fight tooth and nail with someone who is impersonating them without there being any repercussions towards the person impersonating them. Why do you think this wouldn't hurt the game and ccp bottom dollar at all?
Look, the best answer I can give you is look out for the names. It is 100% your fault if you give X player your money. You clicked the button, not him. He fooled you, not the other way around. Just pay attention, unless he is causing actual harm ( besides your feelings getting hurt, or your reputation) then its ok. Your friends know you, and they know you are not a scammer. So really, plus you got a blacklist, so if you get scammed. Report it there, then everyone will be cautious. Just the idea of you can scam is ok. But banning methods of scamming is not ok in my mind.
This right here with you just post it is not an answer to the questions that I ask.
Also please go back and reread my original post I have added some extra thanks to it.
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Makuta Miserix
Nos Nothi
654
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Posted - 2015.12.13 04:16:00 -
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Well see, I think the important question is: Why is it a problem that you get banned for impersonating someone?
Disclaimer: I mostly just skimmed through the thread, if the question was answered previously, please accept my apologies.
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Posted - 2015.12.13 04:17:00 -
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HOLY PERFECTION wrote:@ETC
Are you asking me why I would want their information?
Info as in what comes from their name, like channels they are associated with, corps, persona etc.
AmarrFTW
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Posted - 2015.12.13 04:25:00 -
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HOLY PERFECTION wrote:Twelve Guage wrote:
I honestly can't believe that this even needs to be ask.
Here's some better question. What's in it for the people who are trying to be honest trailers? Why should they have to fight tooth and nail with someone who is impersonating them without there being any repercussions towards the person impersonating them. Why do you think this wouldn't hurt the game and ccp bottom dollar at all?
Look, the best answer I can give you is look out for the names. It is 100% your fault if you give X player your money. You clicked the button, not him. He fooled you, not the other way around. Just pay attention, unless he is causing actual harm ( besides your feelings getting hurt, or your reputation) then its ok. Your friends know you, and they know you are not a scammer. So really, plus you got a blacklist, so if you get scammed. Report it there, then everyone will be cautious. Just the idea of you can scam is ok. But banning methods of scamming is not ok in my mind.
Again, you are not getting banned for scamming someone. You are getting banned for identity theft. DUST trading works like extreme Capitalism(no government involvement), but the moment you impersonate someone CCP gets involved. It's not a scamming issue, it is an identity issue.
AmarrFTW
"The Hero got his feelings hurt for 9 hp... "
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Twelve Guage
Random Gunz
Rise Of Legion.
1
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Posted - 2015.12.13 04:42:00 -
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Forever ETC wrote:
Again, you are not getting banned for scamming someone. You are getting banned for identity theft. DUST trading works like extreme Capitalism(no government involvement), but the moment you impersonate someone CCP gets involved. It's not a scamming issue, it is an identity issue.
I guess this to needs to be addressed but I was under the impression that the person that was scamming while impersonating someone else was not in fact banned from the game. I thought that they just got a nice name change to a mercenary xx number here plus having any ill gotten ISK and items trades reversed. Whether or not someone is actually banned is something a CPM or Dev is going to have answer because I honestly have no clue about that. Now to get back to my original/ main question. How does risk vs reward factor into this? I feel that once we start discussing this we will start getting to the source of why said person is possibly banned from the game.
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Happy Violentime
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Posted - 2015.12.13 05:11:00 -
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HOLY PERFECTION wrote:Twelve Guage wrote:
I honestly can't believe that this even needs to be ask.
Here's some better question. What's in it for the people who are trying to be honest trailers? Why should they have to fight tooth and nail with someone who is impersonating them without there being any repercussions towards the person impersonating them. Why do you think this wouldn't hurt the game and ccp bottom dollar at all?
Look, the best answer I can give you is look out for the names. It is 100% your fault if you give X player your money. You clicked the button, not him. He fooled you, not the other way around. Just pay attention, unless he is causing actual harm ( besides your feelings getting hurt, or your reputation) then its ok. Your friends know you, and they know you are not a scammer. So really, plus you got a blacklist, so if you get scammed. Report it there, then everyone will be cautious. Just the idea of you can scam is ok. But banning methods of scamming is not ok in my mind.
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HOLY PERFECTION
Company of Marcher Lords
Amarr Empire
169
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Posted - 2015.12.13 05:14:00 -
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Ok if its an identity issue, what is at risk? Social Security -no Records -no Bank Card -no Reputation -yes
The way I see it, there is no real identity issue. Let me explain that a little more...
I mean you have nothing at risk if someones name is close to yours. I'm pretty sure a little hurt reputation is not going to kill you. The Devs already said its ok to scam; this is NEW EDEN. Impersonating someone is a form, and method of scamming. Its your (the players) fault that you didn't read the name correctly. To bad, so sad little Johnny. Its so stupid that you get banned for impersonating a IN GAME CHARACTER with no relations to you at all. Just think about it, what if you have the same name on accident.
Rock01 Rock o1 ... oh no hes impersonating me = ban
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HOLY PERFECTION
Company of Marcher Lords
Amarr Empire
169
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Posted - 2015.12.13 05:16:00 -
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Happy Violentime wrote:HOLY PERFECTION wrote:Twelve Guage wrote:
I honestly can't believe that this even needs to be ask.
Here's some better question. What's in it for the people who are trying to be honest trailers? Why should they have to fight tooth and nail with someone who is impersonating them without there being any repercussions towards the person impersonating them. Why do you think this wouldn't hurt the game and ccp bottom dollar at all?
Look, the best answer I can give you is look out for the names. It is 100% your fault if you give X player your money. You clicked the button, not him. He fooled you, not the other way around. Just pay attention, unless he is causing actual harm ( besides your feelings getting hurt, or your reputation) then its ok. Your friends know you, and they know you are not a scammer. So really, plus you got a blacklist, so if you get scammed. Report it there, then everyone will be cautious. Just the idea of you can scam is ok. But banning methods of scamming is not ok in my mind. Why would anyone care about getting a fake account banned that they used to impersonate another player with to scam people?
What if it is their main? That's not the point though, CCP is kind of contradicting themselves here.
SCAMMING = OK SCAMMING ( USING IMPERSONATION ) = NOT OK = BAN
FINAL SOLUTION = NO  SENCE
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Black Eagle495
Brutor Vanguard
Minmatar Republic
22
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Posted - 2015.12.13 05:26:00 -
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here's one reason why
One day HOLY PERFECTION logs off after normal day of dust. Soon after someone makes and account named HOLY PERFECTlON. HOLY PERFECTlON then goes and finds HOLY PERFECTION's friends, corpmates and other associates and does a whole lot nasty things to them. things so bad most people would not ever forgive HOLY PERFECTlON. People spread word of the things HOLY PERFECTlON has done and people generally hate him. HOLY PERFECTlON then deletes his own character (alt) so no one would find the fake.
HOLY PERFECTION logs back on the next day only to find that he has a whole bunch of angry mails and that he has been kicked from his corp. no one wants talk/play with him and everyone hates him. HOLY PERFECTION tries to convince people that is wasn't him but no one believes him. HOLY PERFECTION becomes sad, some would even say depressed. This has caused HOLY PERFECTION emotional harm in what seems was the only reason HOLY PERFECTlON was created. all this happened because one guy decided that he was going to try a ruin a guy's relationship with everyone he knew. and that no longer has anything to do with dust at that point.
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Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet
Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
12
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Posted - 2015.12.13 05:32:00 -
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To answer the OP.
Because of the constant flood of trade glitch complaints in the petition system, as well as to curb exploitive behavior not intended by CCP.
Its similar to the reason third party API counterfeiting is now bannable.
The practices create a much bigger headache for GMs. Scamming is allowed, but pulling off a scam in such a way that a GM has to get involved beyond an email saying "sorry, scamming is not against the TOS" is no longer acceptable.
Example, if you were to make a character that mimiced me, and the newbie missed the cues, and you violate the ToS while scamming someone in my name, (something I personally give no f**ks about) and minimal scrutiny happens and I get banned in your stead...
Wrll this starts a chain of events where I get mad, emails are sent, my account gets unbanned and yours gets banned for the TOS violations.
Basically it's you covering your scamming and trying to escape consequences by foisting the consequences on me, both virtual consequences and real ones. And it makes the GMs have to do three or four (hundred) times the work of what would otherwise be a "scamming is not against ToS" stock email.
You're being punished for making CCP employee lives more difficult at the end of the day.
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Twelve Guage
Random Gunz
Rise Of Legion.
1
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Posted - 2015.12.13 05:32:00 -
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HOLY PERFECTION wrote:Ok if its an identity issue, what is at risk? Social Security -no Records -no Bank Card -no Reputation -yes
The way I see it, there is no real identity issue. Let me explain that a little more...
I mean you have nothing at risk if someones name is close to yours. I'm pretty sure a little hurt reputation is not going to kill you. The Devs already said its ok to scam; this is NEW EDEN. Impersonating someone is a form, and method of scamming. Its your (the players) fault that you didn't read the name correctly. To bad, so sad little Johnny. Its so stupid that you get banned for impersonating a IN GAME CHARACTER with no relations to you at all. Just think about it, what if you have the same name on accident.
Rock01 Rock o1 ... oh no hes impersonating me = ban
Let me stress again that a person impersonating someone as far as I know is not actually banned from the game but in fact gets a free name change courtesy of CCP . Dust and Eve are supposed to be an immersive role playing games. The risk that you speak of is only taken by the person who is considered the honest trader. So I will ask this again what risk does an impersonator take when doing this? As far as I can see it is little to none. You are more versed then I obviously with this subject and therefore would have the most knowledge on this. So I'm going to ask you directly. What risk do you take by impersonating someone else? I think it is quite obvious that the reward would be greatly in your favor.
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Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet
Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
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Posted - 2015.12.13 05:34:00 -
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Twelve Guage wrote:
Let me stress again that a person impersonating someone as far as I know is not actually banned from the game but in fact gets a free name change courtesy of CCP .
Not according to official policy. There was a grace period to allow everyone to shift gears, which is probably where the name changes come. But so far as I am aware the practice has been solidly bannable for months.
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Twelve Guage
Random Gunz
Rise Of Legion.
1
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Posted - 2015.12.13 05:51:00 -
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Breakin Stuff wrote:Twelve Guage wrote:
Let me stress again that a person impersonating someone as far as I know is not actually banned from the game but in fact gets a free name change courtesy of CCP .
Not according to official policy. There was a grace period to allow everyone to shift gears, which is probably where the name changes come. But so far as I am aware the practice has been solidly bannable for months.
Now we know. 
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HOLY PERFECTION
Company of Marcher Lords
Amarr Empire
169
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Posted - 2015.12.13 05:51:00 -
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Breakin Stuff wrote:To answer the OP.
Because of the constant flood of trade glitch complaints in the petition system, as well as to curb exploitive behavior not intended by CCP.
Its similar to the reason third party API counterfeiting is now bannable.
The practices create a much bigger headache for GMs. Scamming is allowed, but pulling off a scam in such a way that a GM has to get involved beyond an email saying "sorry, scamming is not against the TOS" is no longer acceptable.
Example, if you were to make a character that mimiced me, and the newbie missed the cues, and you violate the ToS while scamming someone in my name, (something I personally give no f**ks about) and minimal scrutiny happens and I get banned in your stead...
Wrll this starts a chain of events where I get mad, emails are sent, my account gets unbanned and yours gets banned for the TOS violations.
Basically it's you covering your scamming and trying to escape consequences by foisting the consequences on me, both virtual consequences and real ones. And it makes the GMs have to do three or four (hundred) times the work of what would otherwise be a "scamming is not against ToS" stock email.
You're being punished for making CCP employee lives more difficult at the end of the day.
I knew, and am well a wear why CCP bans for impersonating. However, in the first place. Why dont GM ignore those tickets, then close them. Boo hoo someone is hurting their reputation. It is not the devs job to keep your reputation in check. Am I wrong?
If I charge, follow me. If I retreat, kill me. If I die, revenge me.
I'm really hard headed
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HOLY PERFECTION
Company of Marcher Lords
Amarr Empire
169
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Posted - 2015.12.13 05:54:00 -
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Black Eagle495 wrote:here's one reason why
One day HOLY PERFECTION logs off after normal day of dust. Soon after someone makes and account named HOLY PERFECTlON. HOLY PERFECTlON then goes and finds HOLY PERFECTION's friends, corpmates and other associates and does a whole lot nasty things to them. things so bad most people would not ever forgive HOLY PERFECTlON. People spread word of the things HOLY PERFECTlON has done and people generally hate him. HOLY PERFECTlON then deletes his own character (alt) so no one would find the fake.
HOLY PERFECTION logs back on the next day only to find that he has a whole bunch of angry mails and that he has been kicked from his corp. no one wants talk/play with him and everyone hates him. HOLY PERFECTION tries to convince people that is wasn't him but no one believes him. HOLY PERFECTION becomes sad, some would even say depressed. This has caused HOLY PERFECTION emotional harm in what seems was the only reason HOLY PERFECTlON was created. all this happened because one guy decided that he was going to try a ruin a guy's relationship with everyone he knew. and that no longer has anything to do with dust at that point.
one of many things you could do with a stolen identity.
One I have a mic
two read my name more careful next time
three my friends would immediately put a halt to it so no one else gets scammed.
If I charge, follow me. If I retreat, kill me. If I die, revenge me.
I'm really hard headed
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HOLY PERFECTION
Company of Marcher Lords
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.12.13 05:58:00 -
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I DO know your frustration, its happened to me before you know. Its just part of the game am I right; just read carefully. Seriously when it comes down to it its your own fault you get scammed. And that is just that simple, and I know it sounds harsh.
Read Better next time!!!!!!
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Posted - 2015.12.13 05:59:00 -
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HOLY PERFECTION wrote:Breakin Stuff wrote:To answer the OP.
Because of the constant flood of trade glitch complaints in the petition system, as well as to curb exploitive behavior not intended by CCP.
Its similar to the reason third party API counterfeiting is now bannable.
The practices create a much bigger headache for GMs. Scamming is allowed, but pulling off a scam in such a way that a GM has to get involved beyond an email saying "sorry, scamming is not against the TOS" is no longer acceptable.
Example, if you were to make a character that mimiced me, and the newbie missed the cues, and you violate the ToS while scamming someone in my name, (something I personally give no f**ks about) and minimal scrutiny happens and I get banned in your stead...
Wrll this starts a chain of events where I get mad, emails are sent, my account gets unbanned and yours gets banned for the TOS violations.
Basically it's you covering your scamming and trying to escape consequences by foisting the consequences on me, both virtual consequences and real ones. And it makes the GMs have to do three or four (hundred) times the work of what would otherwise be a "scamming is not against ToS" stock email.
You're being punished for making CCP employee lives more difficult at the end of the day. I knew, and am well a wear why CCP bans for impersonating. However, in the first place. Why dont GM ignore those tickets, then close them. Boo hoo someone is hurting their reputation. It is not the devs job to keep your reputation in check. Am I wrong?
Because it broke the rules, it is there job to resolve these issues no matter how major or minor. Just because you don't care about it doesn't mean it should go unpunished.
AmarrFTW
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Posted - 2015.12.13 06:03:00 -
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HOLY PERFECTION wrote:I DO know your frustration, its happened to me before you know. Its just part of the game am I right; just read carefully. Seriously when it comes down to it its your own fault you get scammed. And that is just that simple, and I know it sounds harsh.
Read Better next time!!!!!!
One could continue to scam without having to use someone else's persona. Then you wouldn't get banned. You shouldn't not be complaining about this if you know it was against the ToS. Again you don't get banned for scamming.
AmarrFTW
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HOLY PERFECTION
Company of Marcher Lords
Amarr Empire
169
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Posted - 2015.12.13 06:05:00 -
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Forever ETC wrote:HOLY PERFECTION wrote:Breakin Stuff wrote:To answer the OP.
Because of the constant flood of trade glitch complaints in the petition system, as well as to curb exploitive behavior not intended by CCP.
Its similar to the reason third party API counterfeiting is now bannable.
The practices create a much bigger headache for GMs. Scamming is allowed, but pulling off a scam in such a way that a GM has to get involved beyond an email saying "sorry, scamming is not against the TOS" is no longer acceptable.
Example, if you were to make a character that mimiced me, and the newbie missed the cues, and you violate the ToS while scamming someone in my name, (something I personally give no f**ks about) and minimal scrutiny happens and I get banned in your stead...
Wrll this starts a chain of events where I get mad, emails are sent, my account gets unbanned and yours gets banned for the TOS violations.
Basically it's you covering your scamming and trying to escape consequences by foisting the consequences on me, both virtual consequences and real ones. And it makes the GMs have to do three or four (hundred) times the work of what would otherwise be a "scamming is not against ToS" stock email.
You're being punished for making CCP employee lives more difficult at the end of the day. I knew, and am well a wear why CCP bans for impersonating. However, in the first place. Why dont GM ignore those tickets, then close them. Boo hoo someone is hurting their reputation. It is not the devs job to keep your reputation in check. Am I wrong? Because it broke the rules, it is there job to resolve these issues no matter how major or minor. Just because you don't care about it doesn't mean it should go unpunished.
CCP has a game to run, they cant worry about crap like this. Its obvious this game is small. An augment is extremely, " secluded". Its the same people 24/7 posting/complaining. That's why this game isn't getting bigger, CCP has to deal with our crap. Give them a break here, they cannot hear every post on impersonating.
And if you are correct, and people are posting on alts they can transfer the money; then proceed to leave. They can donate money to their main corporation. Then, leave get that account banned. Do it all over again, and get rich. Your creating a loop hole anyway. I appreciate the efforts on trying to protect peoples reputation, but frankly, the games dying. CCP cannot afford to waste their time with our problems.
If I charge, follow me. If I retreat, kill me. If I die, revenge me.
I'm really hard headed
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Black Eagle495
Brutor Vanguard
Minmatar Republic
22
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Posted - 2015.12.13 06:12:00 -
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HOLY PERFECTION wrote:Black Eagle495 wrote:here's one reason why
One day HOLY PERFECTION logs off after normal day of dust. Soon after someone makes and account named HOLY PERFECTlON. HOLY PERFECTlON then goes and finds HOLY PERFECTION's friends, corpmates and other associates and does a whole lot nasty things to them. things so bad most people would not ever forgive HOLY PERFECTlON. People spread word of the things HOLY PERFECTlON has done and people generally hate him. HOLY PERFECTlON then deletes his own character (alt) so no one would find the fake.
HOLY PERFECTION logs back on the next day only to find that he has a whole bunch of angry mails and that he has been kicked from his corp. no one wants talk/play with him and everyone hates him. HOLY PERFECTION tries to convince people that is wasn't him but no one believes him. HOLY PERFECTION becomes sad, some would even say depressed. This has caused HOLY PERFECTION emotional harm in what seems was the only reason HOLY PERFECTlON was created. all this happened because one guy decided that he was going to try a ruin a guy's relationship with everyone he knew. and that no longer has anything to do with dust at that point.
one of many things you could do with a stolen identity. One I have a mic two read my name more careful next time three my friends would immediately put a halt to it so no one else gets scammed.
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When you get scammed its YOUR fault. impersonating someones account is a method of scamming. They are saying that they are someone else. Now weather you choose to believe that is on you. If they scam you, that your fault. The person never made you at all.
Plus to top it all of, GM is wasting his time answering tickets about impersonating. Think about it, just let CCP get out a patch/update with no tickets. Itll get done faster, hopefully
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Posted - 2015.12.13 06:14:00 -
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HOLY PERFECTION wrote:Forever ETC wrote:HOLY PERFECTION wrote:Breakin Stuff wrote:To answer the OP.
Because of the constant flood of trade glitch complaints in the petition system, as well as to curb exploitive behavior not intended by CCP.
Its similar to the reason third party API counterfeiting is now bannable.
The practices create a much bigger headache for GMs. Scamming is allowed, but pulling off a scam in such a way that a GM has to get involved beyond an email saying "sorry, scamming is not against the TOS" is no longer acceptable.
Example, if you were to make a character that mimiced me, and the newbie missed the cues, and you violate the ToS while scamming someone in my name, (something I personally give no f**ks about) and minimal scrutiny happens and I get banned in your stead...
Wrll this starts a chain of events where I get mad, emails are sent, my account gets unbanned and yours gets banned for the TOS violations.
Basically it's you covering your scamming and trying to escape consequences by foisting the consequences on me, both virtual consequences and real ones. And it makes the GMs have to do three or four (hundred) times the work of what would otherwise be a "scamming is not against ToS" stock email.
You're being punished for making CCP employee lives more difficult at the end of the day. I knew, and am well a wear why CCP bans for impersonating. However, in the first place. Why dont GM ignore those tickets, then close them. Boo hoo someone is hurting their reputation. It is not the devs job to keep your reputation in check. Am I wrong? Because it broke the rules, it is there job to resolve these issues no matter how major or minor. Just because you don't care about it doesn't mean it should go unpunished. CCP has a game to run, they cant worry about crap like this. Its obvious this game is small. An augment is extremely, " secluded". Its the same people 24/7 posting/complaining. That's why this game isn't getting bigger, CCP has to deal with our crap. Give them a break here, they cannot hear every post on impersonating. And if you are correct, and people are posting on alts they can transfer the money; then proceed to leave. They can donate money to their main corporation. Then, leave get that account banned. Do it all over again, and get rich. Your creating a loop hole anyway. I appreciate the efforts on trying to protect peoples reputation, but frankly, the games dying. CCP cannot afford to waste their time with our problems.
The GM are supposed to handle those issues, it is their job. We aren't wasting their time because that is their sole purpose and have no actual influence in the development of the game. Again, they are Game Moderators, they solve issues and regulate players who break ToS.
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HOLY PERFECTION
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Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.12.13 06:14:00 -
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Black Eagle495 wrote:HOLY PERFECTION wrote:Black Eagle495 wrote:here's one reason why
One day HOLY PERFECTION logs off after normal day of dust. Soon after someone makes and account named HOLY PERFECTlON. HOLY PERFECTlON then goes and finds HOLY PERFECTION's friends, corpmates and other associates and does a whole lot nasty things to them. things so bad most people would not ever forgive HOLY PERFECTlON. People spread word of the things HOLY PERFECTlON has done and people generally hate him. HOLY PERFECTlON then deletes his own character (alt) so no one would find the fake.
HOLY PERFECTION logs back on the next day only to find that he has a whole bunch of angry mails and that he has been kicked from his corp. no one wants talk/play with him and everyone hates him. HOLY PERFECTION tries to convince people that is wasn't him but no one believes him. HOLY PERFECTION becomes sad, some would even say depressed. This has caused HOLY PERFECTION emotional harm in what seems was the only reason HOLY PERFECTlON was created. all this happened because one guy decided that he was going to try a ruin a guy's relationship with everyone he knew. and that no longer has anything to do with dust at that point.
one of many things you could do with a stolen identity. One I have a mic two read my name more careful next time three my friends would immediately put a halt to it so no one else gets scammed. the point, you completely missed it.
I get what your saying here, good augment. Is it really worth time to send in a ticket; and furthermore if HOLY PERFECTION is really that harmed my that. He needs to get more friends XD
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Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.12.13 06:15:00 -
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Forever ETC wrote:HOLY PERFECTION wrote:Forever ETC wrote:HOLY PERFECTION wrote:Breakin Stuff wrote:To answer the OP.
Because of the constant flood of trade glitch complaints in the petition system, as well as to curb exploitive behavior not intended by CCP.
Its similar to the reason third party API counterfeiting is now bannable.
The practices create a much bigger headache for GMs. Scamming is allowed, but pulling off a scam in such a way that a GM has to get involved beyond an email saying "sorry, scamming is not against the TOS" is no longer acceptable.
Example, if you were to make a character that mimiced me, and the newbie missed the cues, and you violate the ToS while scamming someone in my name, (something I personally give no f**ks about) and minimal scrutiny happens and I get banned in your stead...
Wrll this starts a chain of events where I get mad, emails are sent, my account gets unbanned and yours gets banned for the TOS violations.
Basically it's you covering your scamming and trying to escape consequences by foisting the consequences on me, both virtual consequences and real ones. And it makes the GMs have to do three or four (hundred) times the work of what would otherwise be a "scamming is not against ToS" stock email.
You're being punished for making CCP employee lives more difficult at the end of the day. I knew, and am well a wear why CCP bans for impersonating. However, in the first place. Why dont GM ignore those tickets, then close them. Boo hoo someone is hurting their reputation. It is not the devs job to keep your reputation in check. Am I wrong? Yes but I want to change ToS Yes you are right, but I want to change ToS. That's my main purpose of this post. Because it broke the rules, it is there job to resolve these issues no matter how major or minor. Just because you don't care about it doesn't mean it should go unpunished. CCP has a game to run, they cant worry about crap like this. Its obvious this game is small. An augment is extremely, " secluded". Its the same people 24/7 posting/complaining. That's why this game isn't getting bigger, CCP has to deal with our crap. Give them a break here, they cannot hear every post on impersonating. And if you are correct, and people are posting on alts they can transfer the money; then proceed to leave. They can donate money to their main corporation. Then, leave get that account banned. Do it all over again, and get rich. Your creating a loop hole anyway. I appreciate the efforts on trying to protect peoples reputation, but frankly, the games dying. CCP cannot afford to waste their time with our problems. The GM are supposed to handle those issues, it is their job. We aren't wasting their time because that is their sole purpose and have no actual influence in the development of the game. Again, they are Game Moderators, they solve issues and regulate players who break ToS.
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HOLY PERFECTION
Company of Marcher Lords
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.12.13 06:18:00 -
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If we wasted less time trying to get people in trouble in game. We could get more people outside the game to play.
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Random Gunz
Rise Of Legion.
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Posted - 2015.12.13 06:24:00 -
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HOLY PERRCTION wrote:
CCP has a game to run, they cant worry about crap like this. Its obvious this game is small. An augment is extremely, " secluded". Its the same people 24/7 posting/complaining. That's why this game isn't getting bigger, CCP has to deal with our crap. Give them a break here, they cannot hear every post on impersonating.
And if you are correct, and people are posting on alts they can transfer the money; then proceed to leave. They can donate money to their main corporation. Then, leave get that account banned. Do it all over again, and get rich. Your creating a loop hole anyway. I appreciate the efforts on trying to protect peoples reputation, but frankly, the games dying. CCP cannot afford to waste their time with our problems.
I lolz hard when I read this. Was it not just stated that people impersonating people
is too much work for CCP to have to deal with which is why people are banned from impersonating
other people. Did you read that post at all? I don't think I can take you seriously anymore. It's pretty
clear that this topic on scamming is your misguided attempt to you do whatever the f*** you want in
the game with as little consequences as possible. I believe everyone is with me when I say welcome to New Eden.
CCP's logic for banning someone for impersonating someone is a bit crazy but it's not as crazy
as you wanted them to not banned because it some how equals less work for them in your mind.
Also I really appreciate you taking the time to really answer all the questions I was asking. I can
see that this topic was something that you were very serious about.
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Still trying justify it.... Doesn't matter at this point. Nothing gonna change... if someone is willing to send the ticket, there will be a response, especially if it violates the ToS. I know for sure if some assh*le is trying to impersonate me, he is gonna get the ban hammer.
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HOLY PERFECTION
Company of Marcher Lords
Amarr Empire
169
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Posted - 2015.12.13 06:33:00 -
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This is my final post for this thread as it is now annoying me. I started this thread to get a great augment started. As you can see it worked, nice job everyone. I liked a lot of the augments you all brought up. There are a lot of ups and downs to this.
Here are a few positive sides to keeping the ban on impersonating someone's account. For one you keep the remaining player base relatively happy. People are thriving, and very happy. Life continues, but Dust gradually looses player base. Gm still has a job, and the scammers get busted.
These are a big list of negatives that I have found. Firstly, CCP are still loosing players. We are not really seeing signs of this game growing, All of this banning isn't good for the game now is it. Were so focused on what's wrong in game; when we should be having discussions on how the game could grow.
Secondly, if you get scammed its on you. CCP should not protect your reputation, its just not their job. However, if that person harasses you, then you could should report them.
I probably have more, but to be honest id have to dig through 50 or so comments. Just read this, and think over it carefully. Remember, you guys decide where the game goes. Not CPM, Not CCP; you guys are the direct line between them. So decide wisely not just on this. But on Buffing, porting dust, nerfing, etc. The people on the forums only represent a small portion of the actual player base.
Good luck as I haven't played dust in a while actually. Thanks for being my Ginny Pig.
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Kaltos Darksbane
CASSETTE 514
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Posted - 2015.12.13 06:49:00 -
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HOLY PERFECTION wrote:Forever ETC wrote:HOLY PERFECTION wrote:Summa Militum wrote:HOLY PERFECTION wrote:Why is a character banned when they impersonate another character. I understand why you can get arrested when you impersonate a cop; or another person in real life. But that is a different story from in game to real life.
If you impersonate someone in real life, you are risking that persons actual data. Like bank card, SS number etc. If you lie to a cop, then that is against the law isn't it. The difference is that in Dust you are in game. Unless the person is illegally trying to get information about the other person online; they should not be banned.
So, why are in game accounts getting banned for " impersonation ". Its not like its real life or anything of that nature. If you believe that person poses a threat to your account, like a hacker. Then, report them to PSN.
I think the reason that they ban certain players is to keep the playerbase form whining like a bunch of babys. I mean you guys already do that a lot. Whine whine OP whine whine UP. Whine whine port.
NO #portdust its #STFU The fact that you are even asking this question directly reflects how much of a piece of **** you are in real life. What??? explain your reasoning please or Ill have to report you for use of offensive language. This is hilarious! You are threating to have him banned for 1 word, yet stealing someone's online identity is okay with you? Bravo sir, the logic is well with you It is kind of ironic isn't it ha. But I'm sorry but your wrong. He was calling me a mean name that was not true. Which is in fact against regulation. But my reason makes perfect logical since. If you tell someone to f off, that is physically and mentally troubling. And you can even go as far as suing the person if they threaten your life. Impersonation without physically or hacking the other persons account, shouldn't be bannable. Nice try though. But yes the only real reason I posted the regulations was because I don't like him all that much.
Again with the hypocrisy. You like the rules when you agree with it but when they dont suit your taste you call us babies for wanting the rule enforced.
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Kaltos Darksbane
CASSETTE 514
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Posted - 2015.12.13 06:54:00 -
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HOLY PERFECTION wrote:I'm sorry your reputation can get hurt, however that's not harmful. Lets get back to the main point here your getting off topic. Your feelings are out of control, I understand your frustration. When you get mad you get mad. Does it give you the right to just ban somebody? NO So just because it affects your reputation it gives CCP the right to Ban a person. No it doesn't. So I am right, I justified my reasoning. I'm sorry if it hurts your reputation, feelings, etc. but welcome to the real world my friend. Feelings get hurt
Its thier game, they have every right to make whatever rules for it they want. What makes you feel you are entitled to dictate what rules they establish. This isnt a democracy. CCP owns the game, not you.
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Posted - 2015.12.13 06:55:00 -
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You're Welcome... Good Ridance. Since I'm not done here, I'll finish off those negatives you left laying there.
The loss of players is not due to the bans, but to other major issues in the game. If we ever did players due to a legit ban, we are better off without them. The GM will punish anyone who breaks ToS if it is reported. It is their job and will continue to do till the game is dead or are switched position.
If someone sees another player break ToS they have every right to report them. You always seem to think it is the person who is getting scammed who is reporting not the person getting impersonated... You are being banned from impersonating not from scamming. Yes it's on you if you get scammed, but it is not one you when someone uses your name to try to cause sh*t.
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HOLY PERFECTION
Company of Marcher Lords
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.12.13 07:02:00 -
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Forever ETC wrote:You're Welcome... Good Ridance. Since I'm not done here, I'll finish off those negatives you left laying there.
The loss of players is not due to the bans, but to other major issues in the game. If we ever did players due to a legit ban, we are better off without them. The GM will punish anyone who breaks ToS if it is reported. It is their job and will continue to do till the game is dead or are switched position.
If someone sees another player break ToS they have every right to report them. You always seem to think it is the person who is getting scammed who is reporting not the person getting impersonated... You are being banned from impersonating not from scamming. Yes it's on you if you get scammed, but it is not one you when someone uses your name to try to cause sh*t.
you still didn't win
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Posted - 2015.12.13 07:07:00 -
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HOLY PERFECTION wrote:Forever ETC wrote:You're Welcome... Good Ridance. Since I'm not done here, I'll finish off those negatives you left laying there.
The loss of players is not due to the bans, but to other major issues in the game. If we ever did players due to a legit ban, we are better off without them. The GM will punish anyone who breaks ToS if it is reported. It is their job and will continue to do till the game is dead or are switched position.
If someone sees another player break ToS they have every right to report them. You always seem to think it is the person who is getting scammed who is reporting not the person getting impersonated... You are being banned from impersonating not from scamming. Yes it's on you if you get scammed, but it is not one you when someone uses your name to try to cause sh*t. you still didn't win
K den, congrats on whoever won the trophy. But I didn't know this was competition, next time can you let me know so I can get cheerleaders?
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HOLY PERFECTION
Company of Marcher Lords
Amarr Empire
169
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Posted - 2015.12.13 07:09:00 -
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Forever ETC wrote:HOLY PERFECTION wrote:Forever ETC wrote:You're Welcome... Good Ridance. Since I'm not done here, I'll finish off those negatives you left laying there.
The loss of players is not due to the bans, but to other major issues in the game. If we ever did players due to a legit ban, we are better off without them. The GM will punish anyone who breaks ToS if it is reported. It is their job and will continue to do till the game is dead or are switched position.
If someone sees another player break ToS they have every right to report them. You always seem to think it is the person who is getting scammed who is reporting not the person getting impersonated... You are being banned from impersonating not from scamming. Yes it's on you if you get scammed, but it is not one you when someone uses your name to try to cause sh*t. you still didn't win K den, congrats on whoever won the trophy. But I didn't know this was competition, next time can you let me know so I can get cheerleaders?
can you?
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Kaltos Darksbane
CASSETTE 514
1
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Posted - 2015.12.13 07:18:00 -
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HOLY PERFECTION wrote:Twelve Guage wrote:
I honestly can't believe that this even needs to be ask.
Here's some better question. What's in it for the people who are trying to be honest trailers? Why should they have to fight tooth and nail with someone who is impersonating them without there being any repercussions towards the person impersonating them. Why do you think this wouldn't hurt the game and ccp bottom dollar at all?
Look, the best answer I can give you is look out for the names. It is 100% your fault if you give X player your money. You clicked the button, not him. He fooled you, not the other way around. Just pay attention, unless he is causing actual harm ( besides your feelings getting hurt, or your reputation) then its ok. Your friends know you, and they know you are not a scammer. So really, plus you got a blacklist, so if you get scammed. Report it there, then everyone will be cautious. Just the idea of you can scam is ok. But banning methods of scamming is not ok in my mind.
But werent you the one earlier saying that feelings getting hurt did matter as it causes problems for people. Again a hypocrite.
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Corrosive Synergy
RUST415
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Posted - 2015.12.13 08:29:00 -
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Guys, he's just a ******** trying to cause a ruckus. Ignore him and let him wollow in his own stupidity.
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Didn't you say you were leaving a month ago?
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Posted - 2015.12.13 15:52:00 -
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This thread is fcking pointless. Yes scamming is allowed. No impersonating other players is not. You can do damage outside of someones wallet when you impersonate them. We may have to defend ourselves from scammers by building social relationships, theres nothing you can do to protect yourself from someone impersonating you though. You may not even know, meanwhile they can create a false image of you in game. |
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Company of Marcher Lords
Amarr Empire
169
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Posted - 2015.12.13 20:38:00 -
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Wow now the hurtful, and most irrelevant comments come when I'm not here to defend myself. 
If you care so much about a reputation on a fake game, then you need a little professional help. It`s just that if you think about it real hard; you can see how stupid it sounds. So you can scam people for isk. That's hurts peoples feelings, correct? But its a whole different level when you impersonate someone when scamming. I mean really, you people sound so pathetic. Sorry for the hurtful grammar, will I get banned? Because, remember I hurt your feelings.
Oh no, I shot you, did I hurt your feelings. Please... Please don't ban me Archduke
I made my point, so I'm going to stop now, and answering another question. I did quit dust, actually like a few months ago. It`s just, I still get on the forums in hope the game will improve. Also to have stupid debates like this; as well as ideas to make the game better.
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Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.12.13 20:43:00 -
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Kaltos Darksbane wrote:HOLY PERFECTION wrote:Twelve Guage wrote:
I honestly can't believe that this even needs to be ask.
Here's some better question. What's in it for the people who are trying to be honest trailers? Why should they have to fight tooth and nail with someone who is impersonating them without there being any repercussions towards the person impersonating them. Why do you think this wouldn't hurt the game and ccp bottom dollar at all?
Look, the best answer I can give you is look out for the names. It is 100% your fault if you give X player your money. You clicked the button, not him. He fooled you, not the other way around. Just pay attention, unless he is causing actual harm ( besides your feelings getting hurt, or your reputation) then its ok. Your friends know you, and they know you are not a scammer. So really, plus you got a blacklist, so if you get scammed. Report it there, then everyone will be cautious. Just the idea of you can scam is ok. But banning methods of scamming is not ok in my mind. But werent you the one earlier saying that feelings getting hurt did matter as it causes problems for people. Again a hypocrite.
Hey guess what, read before you post butterfingers. I wasn't talking about feelings, I was giving suggestion on how, and why you can stop a scammer. Furthermore, I also proved my point, your augument saying I'm a, "hypocryit". is completely false. Your lacking actual proof that I am. Again read better next time before your post.
AND STOP DERAILING MY POST tm CCP
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HOLY PERFECTION
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Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.12.13 20:50:00 -
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Twelve Guage wrote:
I honestly can't believe that this even needs to be ask.
Here's some better question. What's in it for the people who are trying to be honest trailers?
Why should they have to fight tooth and nail with someone who is impersonating them without
there being any repercussions towards the person impersonating them. Why do you think this
wouldn't hurt the game and ccp bottom dollar at all?
Edit: How does risk vs reward factor into this equation?
Do you think its okay for someone to not risk anything at
all and still be able to reap the fruits of someone else's labor?
Do I think its ok to "reap" rewards from another player. Morally no, I do not. Than again this is new eden, and you can scam. I'm sorry if it hurts your reputation, or feelings. Its just part of scamming; therefore you got to grow up. Boo hoo if someone hurts your trust between players, its NEW EDEN.
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Atiim
Ikomari-Onu Enforcement
Caldari State
15
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Posted - 2015.12.13 21:00:00 -
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If you wanted an actual answer from CCP, you should've filed a help ticket and they'd have been happy to explain the reasoning behind the rule.
Given how your actual purpose isn't to obtain that information but instead form a debate, I must ask why you feel as if players should be allowed to impersonate others.
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Twelve Guage
Random Gunz
Rise Of Legion.
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Posted - 2015.12.13 21:08:00 -
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Atiim wrote:If you wanted an actual answer from CCP, you should've filed a help ticket and they'd have been happy to explain the reasoning behind the rule.
Given how your actual purpose isn't to obtain that information but instead form a debate, I must ask why you feel as if players should be allowed to impersonate others.
I have pretty much asked him the same thing but his reply is always
somewhere along the lines of because scamming is legal, who
cares about player rap and only people with no life cares about
having their in game rep so F them. Good luck getting a real answer man.
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Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.12.13 21:09:00 -
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Atiim wrote:If you wanted an actual answer from CCP, you should've filed a help ticket and they'd have been happy to explain the reasoning behind the rule.
Given how your actual purpose isn't to obtain that information but instead form a debate, I must ask why you feel as if players should be allowed to impersonate others.
CCP allows its players to scam others to get in game currency. It is New Eden and your allowed to do that. Sure it hurts peoples feelings, and so forth.
So, why not let people impersonate one another. Think about it; when you are scammed. Most of the time you don't pay exact attention. You don't know the person, you send isk. Or maybe they sound really legit. Well its just the same with impersonating. It is your fault you cannot see a slight difference between each name. You see, the way I look at it. If you are stupid enough to get scammed, that's on you.
Impersonation is just afterall, a method of scamming. It does hurt your feelings, and your reputation. Is it morally right, no. So you cannot say its ok to scam, then ban a way of scamming. That's like saying slavery is allowed; but only in on Mondays.
I can understand if you are harassed. That is a complete different story, send in a ticket over that. But a method of scamming should not be banned. I understand CCP probably will not change this, due to that majority of the players on the forums who run it, are opposed to this issue. But I can try cant I?
If I charge, follow me. If I retreat, kill me. If I die, revenge me.
I'm really hard headed
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HOLY PERFECTION
Company of Marcher Lords
Amarr Empire
169
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Posted - 2015.12.13 21:12:00 -
[80] - Quote
Twelve Guage wrote:Atiim wrote:If you wanted an actual answer from CCP, you should've filed a help ticket and they'd have been happy to explain the reasoning behind the rule.
Given how your actual purpose isn't to obtain that information but instead form a debate, I must ask why you feel as if players should be allowed to impersonate others.
I have pretty much asked him the same thing but his reply is always
somewhere along the lines of because scamming is legal, who
cares about player rap and only people with no life cares about
having their in game rep so F them. Good luck getting a real answer man.
Scamming isn't right, but you have to deal with it. Sorry, you cannot make the game perfect.
If I charge, follow me. If I retreat, kill me. If I die, revenge me.
I'm really hard headed
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HOLY PERFECTION
Company of Marcher Lords
Amarr Empire
172
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Posted - 2015.12.13 21:14:00 -
[81] - Quote
Jadek Menaheim wrote:New challenge. Impersonate the OP and demonstrate the issues player impersonation causes to a person's reputation.
Change upper case 'i' to lower case 'L'
'HOLY PERFECTlON'
If you do that ill just report, remember the rule is still in place. I still may be trying to change it; however I`ll still use it to my fullest advantage. So be careful what you post here.
If I charge, follow me. If I retreat, kill me. If I die, revenge me.
I'm really hard headed
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Twelve Guage
Random Gunz
Rise Of Legion.
1
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Posted - 2015.12.13 21:32:00 -
[82] - Quote
HOLY PERFECTION wrote:Jadek Menaheim wrote:New challenge. Impersonate the OP and demonstrate the issues player impersonation causes to a person's reputation.
Change upper case 'i' to lower case 'L'
'HOLY PERFECTlON' If you do that ill just report, remember the rule is still in place. I still may be trying to change it; however I`ll still use it to my fullest advantage. So be careful what you post here.
Lolz by your own word you have said that it should be perfectly acceptable
for someone to impersonate others but at the first sign of someone saying
they're going to impersonate you you report them. Again the hypocrisy in this
is unbelievable. Don't complain about the system and then use it when its to your
benefit no one will take you seriously otherwise.
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Quit being an idiot, seriously it is getting anyoning. You are free to scam without the use of someone's name. How many times do I have to repeat the this, you are getting banned from impersonating not scamming. The scenario you keep pointing out is the person who got scammed noticed that you broke ToS and decided to send in a report thus the Game Moderator read the ticket and did his job.
There are plenty of in game dangers that come from someone pretending to be you... Maybe they don't matter outside the game, but in the game they do. If someone wants to report you because you broke the ToS they have every right. It is our job to keep this game from the filth that that will happily break ToS for their own benefit then justify their actions by claiming it doesn't matter or the GMs aren't there to monitor players... If it didn't matter why in the hell in you go to such an extent to do it?
AmarrFTW
"The Hero got his feelings hurt for 9 hp... "
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HOLY PERFECTION
Company of Marcher Lords
Amarr Empire
173
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Posted - 2015.12.13 22:17:00 -
[84] - Quote
Twelve Guage wrote:HOLY PERFECTION wrote:Jadek Menaheim wrote:New challenge. Impersonate the OP and demonstrate the issues player impersonation causes to a person's reputation.
Change upper case 'i' to lower case 'L'
'HOLY PERFECTlON' If you do that ill just report, remember the rule is still in place. I still may be trying to change it; however I`ll still use it to my fullest advantage. So be careful what you post here.
Lolz by your own word you have said that it should be perfectly acceptable
for someone to impersonate others but at the first sign of someone saying
they're going to impersonate you you report them. Again the hypocrisy in this
is unbelievable. Don't complain about the system and then use it when its to your
benefit. No one will take you seriously otherwise.
I want to change the rules correct; however I will take full advantage of the rule as it is now. Especially if it is someone I don't particually care for. So I do not like the rule of banning for impersonation. But I will "reap" the benefits until its changed. So I am not a hypocrite, I just didn't like his comment; therefore Ill take advantage of the rules as is.
If I charge, follow me. If I retreat, kill me. If I die, revenge me.
I'm really hard headed
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HOLY PERFECTION
Company of Marcher Lords
Amarr Empire
173
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Posted - 2015.12.13 22:18:00 -
[85] - Quote
Stop derailing my thread please.
If I charge, follow me. If I retreat, kill me. If I die, revenge me.
I'm really hard headed
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Union118
TH3 STRUGGL3
1
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Posted - 2015.12.13 22:28:00 -
[86] - Quote
I dont scam but i support it. Why? Cuz the more people get scammed the sooner CCP will do something about it. No one wants to listen to people crying about something for very long. Next you will see fixTrading514
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Posted - 2015.12.13 22:30:00 -
[87] - Quote
HOLY PERFECTION wrote:Twelve Guage wrote:HOLY PERFECTION wrote:Jadek Menaheim wrote:New challenge. Impersonate the OP and demonstrate the issues player impersonation causes to a person's reputation.
Change upper case 'i' to lower case 'L'
'HOLY PERFECTlON' If you do that ill just report, remember the rule is still in place. I still may be trying to change it; however I`ll still use it to my fullest advantage. So be careful what you post here.
Lolz by your own word you have said that it should be perfectly acceptable
for someone to impersonate others but at the first sign of someone saying
they're going to impersonate you you report them. Again the hypocrisy in this
is unbelievable. Don't complain about the system and then use it when its to your
benefit. No one will take you seriously otherwise.
I want to change the rules correct; however I will take full advantage of the rule as it is now. Especially if it is someone I don't particually care for. So I do not like the rule of banning for impersonation. But I will "reap" the benefits until its changed. So I am not a hypocrite, I just didn't like his comment; therefore Ill take advantage of the rules as is.
Yes you are being a hypocrite.
Example:
Bob: "Stop eating with your mouth open Jimmy!" Bob continues to eat his sh*t sandwich, while Jimmy keeps his mouth shut.
Our Scenerio:
Holy Perfection: "Don't ban impersonators!" Holy Perfection continues with post threatening to ban the man of a million alts for potential impersonation.
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Posted - 2015.12.13 22:33:00 -
[88] - Quote
Union118 wrote:I dont scam but i support it. Why? Cuz the more people get scammed the sooner CCP will do something about it. No one wants to listen to people crying about something for very long. Next you will see fixTrading514
Eh, I like the idea of being able to scam, it goes well with the Laissez-faire approach CCP takes. But damn... Give is proper trading tools.
AmarrFTW
"The Hero got his feelings hurt for 9 hp... "
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Kaltos Darksbane
CASSETTE 514
1
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Posted - 2015.12.13 22:47:00 -
[89] - Quote
HOLY PERFECTION wrote:Kaltos Darksbane wrote:HOLY PERFECTION wrote:Twelve Guage wrote:
I honestly can't believe that this even needs to be ask.
Here's some better question. What's in it for the people who are trying to be honest trailers? Why should they have to fight tooth and nail with someone who is impersonating them without there being any repercussions towards the person impersonating them. Why do you think this wouldn't hurt the game and ccp bottom dollar at all?
Look, the best answer I can give you is look out for the names. It is 100% your fault if you give X player your money. You clicked the button, not him. He fooled you, not the other way around. Just pay attention, unless he is causing actual harm ( besides your feelings getting hurt, or your reputation) then its ok. Your friends know you, and they know you are not a scammer. So really, plus you got a blacklist, so if you get scammed. Report it there, then everyone will be cautious. Just the idea of you can scam is ok. But banning methods of scamming is not ok in my mind. But werent you the one earlier saying that feelings getting hurt did matter as it causes problems for people. Again a hypocrite. Hey guess what, read before you post butterfingers. I wasn't talking about feelings, I was giving suggestion on how, and why you can stop a scammer. Furthermore, I also proved my point, your augument saying I'm a, "hypocryit". is completely false. Your lacking actual proof that I am. Again read better next time before your post. AND STOP DERAILING MY POST tm CCP
Uh-oh, am I hitting a nerve. Now you're resorting to name calling. We have all proved your hypocrisy multiple times and that all of the aspects are your opinion, while attempting to deny us our own opinions. The proof is there for everyone to read. Your stubborn egotism is truly amazing.
If you don't receive the answer you want please be patient, my "F**k's Given" dispenser is broke.
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Twelve Guage
Random Gunz
Rise Of Legion.
1
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Posted - 2015.12.14 01:04:00 -
[90] - Quote
HOLY PERFECTION wrote:
I want to change the rules correct; however I will take full advantage of the rule as it is now. Especially if it is someone I don't particually care for. So I do not like the rule of banning for impersonation. But I will "reap" the benefits until its changed. So I am not a hypocrite, I just didn't like his comment; therefore Ill take advantage of the rules as is.
This entire paragraph is a shining example of your hypocrisy.
Please do continue making a fool out of yourself.
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Viktor Hadah Jr
0uter.Heaven
9
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Posted - 2015.12.14 01:05:00 -
[91] - Quote
He guys don't listen to OP, i'm the real "HOLY PERFECTION"
I'm kind of a big deal.
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Buying dead and inactive corporations
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HOLY PERFECTION
Company of Marcher Lords
Amarr Empire
174
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Posted - 2015.12.14 01:24:00 -
[92] - Quote
Twelve Guage wrote:HOLY PERFECTION wrote:
I want to change the rules correct; however I will take full advantage of the rule as it is now. Especially if it is someone I don't particually care for. So I do not like the rule of banning for impersonation. But I will "reap" the benefits until its changed. So I am not a hypocrite, I just didn't like his comment; therefore Ill take advantage of the rules as is.
This entire paragraph is a shining example of your hypocrisy.
Please do continue making a fool out of yourself.
Nice did you pull out the dictionary for hypocrisy. Look, I'm not a hypocrite; however I am a opportunist. I see a opportunity and I take it. I'm saying I want to change the rule for impersonating. But I will be a pain in the asvab for anybody I don't like. So I may not like the rule, but ill use it. Stop derailing my thread please. If you got an opinion that's good. But don't come in here starting trouble, I know you 12 gauge. You do that to a lot of posts.
If I charge, follow me. If I retreat, kill me. If I die, revenge me.
I'm really hard headed
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HOLY PERFECTION
Company of Marcher Lords
Amarr Empire
174
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Posted - 2015.12.14 01:26:00 -
[93] - Quote
Kaltos Darksbane wrote:HOLY PERFECTION wrote:Kaltos Darksbane wrote:HOLY PERFECTION wrote:Twelve Guage wrote:
I honestly can't believe that this even needs to be ask.
Here's some better question. What's in it for the people who are trying to be honest trailers? Why should they have to fight tooth and nail with someone who is impersonating them without there being any repercussions towards the person impersonating them. Why do you think this wouldn't hurt the game and ccp bottom dollar at all?
Look, the best answer I can give you is look out for the names. It is 100% your fault if you give X player your money. You clicked the button, not him. He fooled you, not the other way around. Just pay attention, unless he is causing actual harm ( besides your feelings getting hurt, or your reputation) then its ok. Your friends know you, and they know you are not a scammer. So really, plus you got a blacklist, so if you get scammed. Report it there, then everyone will be cautious. Just the idea of you can scam is ok. But banning methods of scamming is not ok in my mind. But werent you the one earlier saying that feelings getting hurt did matter as it causes problems for people. Again a hypocrite. Hey guess what, read before you post butterfingers. I wasn't talking about feelings, I was giving suggestion on how, and why you can stop a scammer. Furthermore, I also proved my point, your augument saying I'm a, "hypocryit". is completely false. Your lacking actual proof that I am. Again read better next time before your post. AND STOP DERAILING MY POST tm CCP Uh-oh, am I hitting a nerve. Now you're resorting to name calling. We have all proved your hypocrisy multiple times and that all of the aspects are your opinion, while attempting to deny us our own opinions. The proof is there for everyone to read. Your stubborn egotism is truly amazing.
Aww.... geez  I'm blushing
If I charge, follow me. If I retreat, kill me. If I die, revenge me.
I'm really hard headed
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maybe deadcatz
Serris Inc
1
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Posted - 2015.12.14 01:33:00 -
[94] - Quote
Pew pew.
Ha!You can't kill me! I'm already dead!
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HOLY PERFECTION
Company of Marcher Lords
Amarr Empire
174
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Posted - 2015.12.14 01:34:00 -
[95] - Quote
maybe deadcatz wrote:Pew pew.
why waste space ... why?
If I charge, follow me. If I retreat, kill me. If I die, revenge me.
I'm really hard headed
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maybe deadcatz
Serris Inc
1
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Posted - 2015.12.14 01:39:00 -
[96] - Quote
HOLY PERFECTION wrote:maybe deadcatz wrote:Pew pew. why waste space ... why?
Oops. My phone autocorrects 'qq' to 'pew pew'
Ha!You can't kill me! I'm already dead!
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Kaltos Darksbane
CASSETTE 514
1
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Posted - 2015.12.14 02:33:00 -
[97] - Quote
HOLY PERFECTION wrote:Twelve Guage wrote:HOLY PERFECTION wrote:
I want to change the rules correct; however I will take full advantage of the rule as it is now. Especially if it is someone I don't particually care for. So I do not like the rule of banning for impersonation. But I will "reap" the benefits until its changed. So I am not a hypocrite, I just didn't like his comment; therefore Ill take advantage of the rules as is.
This entire paragraph is a shining example of your hypocrisy.
Please do continue making a fool out of yourself.
Nice did you pull out the dictionary for hypocrisy. Look, I'm not a hypocrite; however I am a opportunist. I see a opportunity and I take it. I'm saying I want to change the rule for impersonating. But I will be a pain in the asvab for anybody I don't like. So I may not like the rule, but ill use it. Stop derailing my thread please. If you got an opinion that's good. But don't come in here starting trouble, I know you 12 gauge. You do that to a lot of posts.
Haha....asvab. I remember that test. Got me a good entry m.o.s. Ill give a like for that one.
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Twelve Guage
Random Gunz
Rise Of Legion.
1
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Posted - 2015.12.14 04:50:00 -
[98] - Quote
HOLY PERFECTION wrote:Twelve Guage wrote:HOLY PERFECTION wrote:
I want to change the rules correct; however I will take full advantage of the rule as it is now. Especially if it is someone I don't particually care for. So I do not like the rule of banning for impersonation. But I will "reap" the benefits until its changed. So I am not a hypocrite, I just didn't like his comment; therefore Ill take advantage of the rules as is.
This entire paragraph is a shining example of your hypocrisy.
Please do continue making a fool out of yourself.
Nice did you pull out the dictionary for hypocrisy. Look, I'm not a hypocrite; however I am a opportunist. I see a opportunity and I take it. I'm saying I want to change the rule for impersonating. But I will be a pain in the asvab for anybody I don't like. So I may not like the rule, but ill use it. Stop derailing my thread please. If you got an opinion that's good. But don't come in here starting trouble, I know you 12 gauge. You do that to a lot of posts.
I didn't need to pull that out of a dictionary I simply quoted what you wrote.
You know holy I to am an opportunities. When the opportunity presents itself
to make someone look like a fool I usually jump right on that. Like right now
let me take the opportunity to tell you that your above post looks suspiciously
like whining. You a big boy so man the F up. This is New eden after all noone
wants to read about a grown man expressing his opinion or feelings in or
about a game where he has already stated that such things have no place
here. I mean boo hoo bro I haven't really done any harm right.
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Posted - 2015.12.14 05:05:00 -
[99] - Quote
Twelve Guage wrote:HOLY PERFECTION wrote:Twelve Guage wrote:HOLY PERFECTION wrote:
I want to change the rules correct; however I will take full advantage of the rule as it is now. Especially if it is someone I don't particually care for. So I do not like the rule of banning for impersonation. But I will "reap" the benefits until its changed. So I am not a hypocrite, I just didn't like his comment; therefore Ill take advantage of the rules as is.
This entire paragraph is a shining example of your hypocrisy.
Please do continue making a fool out of yourself.
Nice did you pull out the dictionary for hypocrisy. Look, I'm not a hypocrite; however I am a opportunist. I see a opportunity and I take it. I'm saying I want to change the rule for impersonating. But I will be a pain in the asvab for anybody I don't like. So I may not like the rule, but ill use it. Stop derailing my thread please. If you got an opinion that's good. But don't come in here starting trouble, I know you 12 gauge. You do that to a lot of posts.
I didn't need to pull that out of a dictionary I simply quoted what you wrote.
You know holy I to am an opportunities. When the opportunity presents itself
to make someone look like a fool I usually jump right on that. Like right now
let me take the opportunity to tell you that your above post looks suspiciously
like whining. You a big boy so man the F up. This is New eden after all noone
wants to read about a grown man expressing his opinion or feelings in or
about a game where he has already stated that such things have no place
here. I mean boo hoo bro I haven't really done any harm right.
Haha, by the gods this is golden!
AmarrFTW
"The Hero got his feelings hurt for 9 hp... "
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Ice Royal Glantix
Isuuaya Tactical
Caldari State
344
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Posted - 2015.12.14 05:10:00 -
[100] - Quote
Ooh. I love a good debate. HOLY, I have a few questions for you, if you are willing to answer.
1. Why do you want the consequences of impersonation to be removed?
2. In your own words, not the dictionary's, what does hypocrisy mean?
3. Why did you title this post Scamming In General if you are talking about impersonation only?
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Twelve Guage
Random Gunz
Rise Of Legion.
1
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Posted - 2015.12.14 05:21:00 -
[101] - Quote
Ice Royal Glantix wrote:Ooh. I love a good debate. HOLY, I have a few questions for you, if you are willing to answer.
1. Why do you want the consequences of impersonation to be removed?
2. In your own words, not the dictionary's, what does hypocrisy mean?
3. Why did you title this post Scamming In General if you are talking about impersonation only?
I actually thought at one point that this topic was going to be a really awesome
things to debate about but at last it seems that only the author's opinion matters.
The sad part is these are some very excellent questions but there is no way your
going to get a real answer from Holly.
In fact I'm going to go a head and tell you the answer he's likely going to give you.
For your first question. It pretty much go something like this because scamming
legal and impersonating people should be to. As for the second question I'm not
entirely sure Holly has the brain capacity to answer that.
And for your last question. It may not be super obvious but Holy is a known scammer.
I suspect that people have wised up to his bs and now that he is running out of isk he
is just wants in easier foolproof way to scam people with as little work as possible.
The title of this thread was written that way to draw people in. It works so holly does
get ponits for that.
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No-one-ganks like-Gaston
Corrosive Synergy
RUST415
589
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Posted - 2015.12.14 06:12:00 -
[102] - Quote
HOLY PERFECTION wrote:Jadek Menaheim wrote:New challenge. Impersonate the OP and demonstrate the issues player impersonation causes to a person's reputation.
Change upper case 'i' to lower case 'L'
'HOLY PERFECTlON' If you do that ill just report, remember the rule is still in place. I still may be trying to change it; however I`ll still use it to my fullest advantage. So be careful what you post here.
I want ********* to be legalized, but if you so much as look at my blunt I'm calling the cops on your ass so fast you'll go to take a **** and open the door to a prison cell.
Never knew Mary Jane was censored here. Huh.
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IMMORTAL WAR HERO
NECROM0NGERS
460
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Posted - 2015.12.14 06:21:00 -
[103] - Quote
HOLY PERFECTION wrote:Why is a character banned when they impersonate another character. I understand why you can get arrested when you impersonate a cop; or another person in real life. But that is a different story from in game to real life.
If you impersonate someone in real life, you are risking that persons actual data. Like bank card, SS number etc. If you lie to a cop, then that is against the law isn't it. The difference is that in Dust you are in game. Unless the person is illegally trying to get information about the other person online; they should not be banned.
So, why are in game accounts getting banned for " impersonation ". Its not like its real life or anything of that nature. If you believe that person poses a threat to your account, like a hacker. Then, report them to PSN.
I think the reason that they ban certain players is to keep the playerbase form whining like a bunch of babys. I mean you guys already do that a lot. Whine whine OP whine whine UP. Whine whine port.
NO #portdust its #STFU
what they cant do that the impersonation names is still technically diffent for them to have made it and is thier own original name since its simabut actually completely different name plus people could of pick 1st name to start you know howmany people make immitations of words like immortal, war and hero are unuseable since i got them 1st people want name hero they put hero01 or h3ro
Object of war is not2 die 4ur country murder bastard 4 his
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GM Archduke
Game Masters
C C P Alliance
3
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Posted - 2015.12.14 09:47:00 -
[104] - Quote
Ahoy!
I admit, I didn't read through every single post - I just don't have time like that on my hands - but judging by the original post and your last couple posts, HOLY PERFECTION, it seems that the actual reason for this rule may not have been posted yet. So here it goes.
It's in the EULA. It's in place for many reasons, mostly to prevent players from any form of in-game gain just for creating a character mimicking the character-name of another character.
Impersonating another player is a breach of the EULA section 2.B:
"No player may use the character name of another player to impersonate or falsely represent his or her identity."
Simple as that.
GM Archduke
CCP Customer Support | EVE Online | DUST 514
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Immortal John Ripper
29
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Posted - 2015.12.14 13:08:00 -
[105] - Quote
I'm impersonating General John Ripper and I don't care.
Don't give up CCP Petition
Like this post if you agree! #PortDust514 #ps4 #BurningTrees
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General John Ripper
29
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Posted - 2015.12.14 13:08:00 -
[106] - Quote
I'm impersonating General John Ripper and I don't care.
Space and Time.
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Aidualc
LATINOS KILLERS CORP
RUST415
711
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Posted - 2015.12.14 13:47:00 -
[107] - Quote
Immortal John Ripper wrote:I'm impersonating General John Ripper and I don't care.
Ok Rattati 
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KingThunderBalt
7
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Posted - 2015.12.14 18:58:00 -
[108] - Quote
Totally legit character. YOU GUYS ARE NOT ON MY LEVEL DO YOU EVEN KNOW HOW GOOD I AM AT DUST?
Forgot about me echh boys?
'Patrick57 thinks he is better than anyone he kills, all because he kills them once or twice' -KingThunderBolt
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Daemonn Adima
Condotta Rouvenor
Gallente Federation
667
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Posted - 2015.12.15 17:12:00 -
[109] - Quote
GM Archduke wrote:Ahoy! I admit, I didn't read through every single post - I just don't have time like that on my hands - but judging by the original post and your last couple posts, HOLY PERFECTION, it seems that the actual reason for this rule may not have been posted yet. So here it goes. It's in the EULA. It's in place for many reasons, mostly to prevent players from any form of in-game gain just for creating a character mimicking the character-name of another character. Impersonating another player is a breach of the EULA section 2.B:"No player may use the character name of another player to impersonate or falsely represent his or her identity."Simple as that.
Sweet Thanks Archduke!
Items and isk are not the only things at stake when impersonating someone. You can do a lot more damage to someones personal relationships than you can do to someones wallet.
Holy seems to think people would only impersonate for monetary gain. EVE has shown us just how deceptive players can be for reasons outside of ISK or items. This is why we need protections against impersonation.
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Git Gud Bruh
Dead Man's Game
Preatoriani
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Posted - 2015.12.22 10:37:00 -
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KingThunderBalt wrote:Totally legit character. YOU GUYS ARE NOT ON MY LEVEL DO YOU EVEN KNOW HOW GOOD I AM AT DUST?
Forgot about me echh boys?
You were pretty easy to forget...some of us even forgot we forgot..it's like inception but you forget scrubs instead of dream. "So they come here to sleep?" "No they come here to forget"
"Militia Internet, Proto Lag" -Zandor Suzuki
"To be fair"- viper xsniper
"Americ*nt"- TheD1CK
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Git Gud Bruh
Dead Man's Game
Preatoriani
48
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Posted - 2015.12.22 10:52:00 -
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Summa Militum wrote:HOLY PERFECTION wrote:Why is a character banned when they impersonate another character. I understand why you can get arrested when you impersonate a cop; or another person in real life. But that is a different story from in game to real life.
If you impersonate someone in real life, you are risking that persons actual data. Like bank card, SS number etc. If you lie to a cop, then that is against the law isn't it. The difference is that in Dust you are in game. Unless the person is illegally trying to get information about the other person online; they should not be banned.
So, why are in game accounts getting banned for " impersonation ". Its not like its real life or anything of that nature. If you believe that person poses a threat to your account, like a hacker. Then, report them to PSN.
I think the reason that they ban certain players is to keep the playerbase form whining like a bunch of babys. I mean you guys already do that a lot. Whine whine OP whine whine UP. Whine whine port.
NO #portdust its #STFU The fact that you are even asking this question directly reflects how much of a piece of **** you are in real life.
*slow clap* I agree, someone who puts this much effort into complaining about a rule that is so rarely brought up must've been banned for account impersonation, and anyone who goes to such lengths to be a piece of **** must be quite the piece of ****. I'd suggest everyone start checking the psn's of anyone they ever plan on trading with, also hearing someones voice is a good way to confirm. I'd generally suggest not trading with anyone outside of corp or anyone you don't comm with on regular basis, never ever trust a player in an NPC corp that you don't know. If you trade with a corpless player youve never met who doesnt VC then it's your ass if you get scammed.
But just from a moral standpoint, impersonating players is just a slimy thing to do. That player worked to be who he is and taking his name will never let you live up to it. You should strive to be better than others, not be others. Just fuckin git gud bruh dont fake gud bruh.
"Militia Internet, Proto Lag" -Zandor Suzuki
"To be fair"- viper xsniper
"Americ*nt"- TheD1CK
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Git Gud Bruh
Dead Man's Game
Preatoriani
48
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Posted - 2015.12.22 11:01:00 -
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HOLY PERFECTION wrote:Stop derailing my thread please.
I'm pretty sure you did a good job of derailing everything you've ever come in contact with....
"Militia Internet, Proto Lag" -Zandor Suzuki
"To be fair"- viper xsniper
"Americ*nt"- TheD1CK
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HOLY PERFECTION
Fourth Nature
178
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Posted - 2015.12.22 19:20:00 -
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Git Gud Bruh wrote:HOLY PERFECTION wrote:Stop derailing my thread please. I'm pretty sure you did a good job of derailing everything you've ever come in contact with....
This thread is dead, why bother causing trouble. Really?
If I charge, follow me. If I retreat, kill me. If I die, revenge me.
I'm really hard headed
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dzizur
Nos Nothi
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Posted - 2016.01.15 08:22:00 -
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