I thought that people knew that when we say "port dust" we also intended that dust be improved/changed/fixedup/reworked/rewritten/watever in the process of porting it. Improving the game is kinda why alot of us want a port. A straight port of how dust currently is now would be bad because of how broken it is.

As it has been said multiple times in this thread: we are not looking for a copy/paste of the current Dust code. Pay attention.

A port would give CCP the opportunity to correct legacy code mistakes as they migrate from PS3 to PC/PS4. And, as Mobius mentioned, it probably isn't possible to do a direct copy/paste of Dust code anyway due to the PS3's strange OS.

That is somewhat correct.

The difference is Legion started on a version of UE3 which had already been heavily customized along the way.

Dust was a build as you go situation thanks to the game being forced off of Carbon and having to be rushed into production.


There is some good discussion on it here.

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4581084

EVE forums are hardly the place to get proper well thought out info about DUST. They don't know much at all about this game.
They act like they do, but from what I've seen they only know what marketing and the Mittani shoved down their throats. And even that's not accurate often times.


Anyway, the engine we use now IS a heavily modified UE3.
It's closer to what Legion uses than stock UE3.

What happened to you.
From idealist to really sour and nihilistic boyko.

We pushed for good of game.
Not for bashing like this.

I know you talking i can read.
I just still dont know what you want to fix if you not looking for copy/paste ;)

when we know the mistake can be fixed here.

And all this can be made here on Ps3 first ;)

That is reason why i start to think if the Legion is actually modified dust what can be implemented on Ps3 too ;)

I want make things better i just do not see reason to bashing everything around.
But honestly fixed version can be here and can be on ps4 too.
Content can be on ps3 too all its just matter of coding.

I want make things better i just do not see reason to bashing everything around.
If there will be Pc/Ps4 version good.

But honestly fixed version can be here and can be on ps4 too.
Content can be on ps3 too all its just matter of coding.

Nothing else.

If i will be on lead of this project i will push for fix of Dust for good of the future ps4 version.
Because i honestly do not trust that change of platform will somehow miraculously fix what is still broken.

Thants all.

There is plenty to fix in Dust 514 that would not involve copy/pasting so I'm not sure what you are getting at here ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;)

No, actually, that is not the case. The PS3 is out of memory and the legacy code is a nightmare. Add to that, the PS3 is a console in it's dying days. The PS4 is the most rapidly growing console on the market and PC is... well... it's PC (see: massive potential customer base). ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) You can polish the turd that is Dust (PS3) all you want, but Dust is sunk if it remains on PS3 for very much longer. ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;)

If what we saw at FF14 was put on the PS3 the damn thing would explode into deadly shrapnel.

Bruh, fixing it on the PS3 would mean that the game would still be limited by what the PS3 can do.

Fixing it while porting it to PS4/PC would give the developers greater flexibility for the game moving forward.

Out of memory my you know what XD

mirrors edge - graphics, move, great maps
battlefield - great maps, effects, vehicles
motorstorm serie - great maps plus third one completely destroable assets on maps and i mean that was whole buildings
starhawk - great maps, effects, realtime interactive building, vehicles
mag - 256 players on biggest mode in real time and interactive tactical map

All these games had big features and i never saw issues.

Stop with memory nonsence already.
If other games can have it, why Dust cannot that is question what you should ask ;)

All great games and all utilized the PS3's capabilities to the fullest. So you want to devote potentially thousands of labor hours polishing Dust 514 on the PS3 so it can meet the minimum standard of quality for a LAST GENERATION console?

No, if CCP is going to spend that much time on something then it would be better spent putting Dust on PC/PS4 where the game has a chance to actually grow. Adding to this, the PC/PS4 are easier to develop for in general. We want to make updating Dust as painless as possible for CCP and the PS3's weird cell architecture hinders them.

Out of curiosity... you don't have a mid-range PC or PS4, do you?

Im just scared the dust 2.0 will be released unstable/unfinished like our dust what we have now.
That is reasson why i will morelikely go for fix here/now and release port later polished.
I just do not trust in hype anymore

If you wanted to teach a r**arded northern antarctic tree elephant to parallel park would you want to use a truck with or without power steering?

If Dust is to be ported then CCP will have to rebuild many parts of the game from the ground up and, in the process, correct mistakes they made along the way. Shanghai is under new management now with CCP Rouge and Rattati at the helm, two people who have done their absolute best with what they were given. How about we let them put Dust on PC/PS4 where it can shine?

And I will state again that by the time you work out all the kinks and bugs in current iteration of Dust 514 our concurrent logins will be peaking at 500 on the weekends. The time required to fix Dust (PS3) at this point offers a very poor return on investment.

This game has been dying for years now. And the end of day has been going on the entire time. Yes, there are numerous numerous problems. A port would fix a couple things though. A port would get the game more recognition. Which would get us more players. Which would get them more money. The game is funded on people buying AUR. With more money, they could fix more things

This game has been dying for years now. And the end of day has been going on the entire time. Yes, there are numerous numerous problems. A port would fix a couple things though. A port would get the game more recognition. Which would get us more players. Which would get them more money. The game is funded on people buying AUR. With more money, they could fix more things

I just want to say a port won't fix much when most of the problems lie in the coding. A port will improve some things but not much will be fixed.

If they want the money to continue pouring in: yes. It's basic business sense.

But with that money, will they fix things?

Most of us know that. Besides even if dust was ported i might not even go back to playing it. The amount of problems in the game out weigh the actual fun factors. If they did a thing like destiny where you can play against AI then i might come back but after this event ill be playing a lot less.

They still have a contract to complete with sony. Kinda like phone carriers contracts cost a lot to break off anyway.