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Ripley Riley Incorruptibles 13	Posted - 2015.11.29 17:45:00 - [1] - Quote postapo wastelander wrote: Ahkhomi Cypher wrote: I thought that people knew that when we say "port dust" we also intended that dust be improved/changed/fixedup/reworked/rewritten/watever in the process of porting it. Improving the game is kinda why alot of us want a port. A straight port of how dust currently is now would be bad because of how broken it is. Porting broken code will not improve anything. As it has been said multiple times in this thread: we are not looking for a copy/paste of the current Dust code. Pay attention. A port would give CCP the opportunity to correct legacy code mistakes as they migrate from PS3 to PC/PS4. And, as Mobius mentioned, it probably isn't possible to do a direct copy/paste of Dust code anyway due to the PS3's strange OS. Become the phoenix, rise again
Ripley Riley Incorruptibles 13	Posted - 2015.11.29 18:03:00 - [2] - Quote postapo wastelander wrote: I know you talking i can read. I just still dont know what you want to fix if you not looking for copy/paste ;) There is plenty to fix in Dust 514 that would not involve copy/pasting so I'm not sure what you are getting at here ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) postapo wastelander wrote: when we know the mistake can be fixed here. And all this can be made here on Ps3 first ;) No, actually, that is not the case. The PS3 is out of memory and the legacy code is a nightmare. Add to that, the PS3 is a console in it's dying days. The PS4 is the most rapidly growing console on the market and PC is... well... it's PC (see: massive potential customer base). ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) You can polish the turd that is Dust (PS3) all you want, but Dust is sunk if it remains on PS3 for very much longer. ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) postapo wastelander wrote: That is reason why i start to think if the Legion is actually modified dust what can be implemented on Ps3 too ;) If what we saw at FF14 was put on the PS3 the damn thing would explode into deadly shrapnel. Become the phoenix, rise again
Ripley Riley Incorruptibles 13	Posted - 2015.11.29 18:25:00 - [3] - Quote postapo wastelander wrote: I want make things better i just do not see reason to bashing everything around. If there will be Pc/Ps4 version good. But honestly fixed version can be here and can be on ps4 too. Content can be on ps3 too all its just matter of coding. Nothing else. If i will be on lead of this project i will push for fix of Dust for good of the future ps4 version. Because i honestly do not trust that change of platform will somehow miraculously fix what is still broken. Thants all. What I am trying to tell you is, by the time to fixed that 'just a matter of coding"* the PS3 will have been taken out back and humanely shot. There is no point in investing countless labor hours correcting terrible legacy code on PS3 when that time can be spent on a PC/PS4 game that has a growing player population. *: it's hilarious to hear people who don't program talk about something "just being" this or that. You don't know the sad state of Dust's code or how difficult it could be to fix. Ask one of the CPMs if you want: I can guarantee that there is a MOUNTAIN of things they want to put in Dust but they cannot due to terrible coding or the PS3's sub-par hardware. Become the phoenix, rise again
Ripley Riley Incorruptibles 13	Posted - 2015.11.29 18:46:00 - [4] - Quote postapo wastelander wrote: Out of memory my you know what XD mirrors edge - graphics, move, great maps battlefield - great maps, effects, vehicles motorstorm serie - great maps plus third one completely destroable assets on maps and i mean that was whole buildings starhawk - great maps, effects, realtime interactive building, vehicles mag - 256 players on biggest mode in real time and interactive tactical map All these games had big features and i never saw issues. Stop with memory nonsence already. If other games can have it, why Dust cannot that is question what you should ask ;) All great games and all utilized the PS3's capabilities to the fullest. So you want to devote potentially thousands of labor hours polishing Dust 514 on the PS3 so it can meet the minimum standard of quality for a LAST GENERATION console? No, if CCP is going to spend that much time on something then it would be better spent putting Dust on PC/PS4 where the game has a chance to actually grow. Adding to this, the PC/PS4 are easier to develop for in general. We want to make updating Dust as painless as possible for CCP and the PS3's weird cell architecture hinders them. Out of curiosity... you don't have a mid-range PC or PS4, do you? Become the phoenix, rise again
Ripley Riley Incorruptibles 13	Posted - 2015.11.29 19:01:00 - [5] - Quote postapo wastelander wrote: Im just scared the dust 2.0 will be released unstable/unfinished like our dust what we have now. That is reasson why i will morelikely go for fix here/now and release port later polished. I just do not trust in hype anymore If Dust is to be ported then CCP will have to rebuild many parts of the game from the ground up and, in the process, correct mistakes they made along the way. Shanghai is under new management now with CCP Rouge and Rattati at the helm, two people who have done their absolute best with what they were given. How about we let them put Dust on PC/PS4 where it can shine? And I will state again that by the time you work out all the kinks and bugs in current iteration of Dust 514 our concurrent logins will be peaking at 500 on the weekends. The time required to fix Dust (PS3) at this point offers a very poor return on investment. Become the phoenix, rise again
Ripley Riley Incorruptibles 13	Posted - 2015.11.29 19:06:00 - [6] - Quote Ahkhomi Cypher wrote: If you wanted to teach a r**arded northern antarctic tree elephant to parallel park would you want to use a truck with or without power steering? Trick question. The answer is Constantinople. Become the phoenix, rise again
Ripley Riley Incorruptibles 13	Posted - 2015.11.29 19:24:00 - [7] - Quote Squagga wrote: This game has been dying for years now. And the end of day has been going on the entire time. Yes, there are numerous numerous problems. A port would fix a couple things though. A port would get the game more recognition. Which would get us more players. Which would get them more money. The game is funded on people buying AUR. With more money, they could fix more things GIVE THIS MERC A CIGAR! This. This so very much. Become the phoenix, rise again
Ripley Riley Incorruptibles 13	Posted - 2015.11.29 19:29:00 - [8] - Quote If they want the money to continue pouring in: yes. It's basic business sense. Become the phoenix, rise again
Ripley Riley Incorruptibles 13	Posted - 2015.11.29 21:54:00 - [9] - Quote Union118 wrote: They still have a contract to complete with sony. Kinda like phone carriers contracts cost a lot to break off anyway. There is a not an exclusivity agreement with Sony. CCP confirmed it months ago in a blue post. I will try to find it. Become the phoenix, rise again

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