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jett it Ancient Exiles. Bleeding Sun Conglomerate 536	Posted - 2015.11.12 13:14:00 - [1] - Quote My previous efforts to have CRU's totally removed from the battlefield have failed. Either ccp loves to CRU camp themselves or they just dont see it like me in the video below... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fMzozbGuy4Q What I am seeing is players trying to hack the cru and once they do there whole team becomes CRU camped. CRU are suppose to help not make a fight 1 sided, that hardly seems right or even a fair fight. What you need to do is remove them and give your players benefits of carrying and dropping uplinks for the team. But once again dont listen to me, just keep letting the CRU training camp continue. Those are my thoughts with a video in case you all dont currently see it as an issue, like myself. jettGaming - Youtube
Leovarian L Lavitz TRAILS AND TRIBULATIONS 1	Posted - 2015.11.12 14:13:00 - [2] - Quote Crus and point spawning should be removed. This leaves uplinks and mobile CRUs. Players dictate the battlefield. Hmmm ( -í-¦ -£-û -í-¦) Youtube: Dust 514 - You should Have Worn Proto Playstation move player
james selim brownstein NECROM0NGERS 131	Posted - 2015.11.12 14:17:00 - [3] - Quote I haven't played dust properly in a long time, therefor when im online for a couple of matches, i dont really notice these small details, but do they still have the passive scan feature on CRU's? n++Gòª¦¦¦¦-ç¦+¦+¦+¦+ WAITING FOR DEPLOYMENTGòñGöÇGöÇGöÇ Gò¡Gê¬Gò«n+ên+¦n++n+¦n+ë KEEP CALM, & HOPE CCP FIXES THE GAME :)
Vrain Matari Mikramurka Shock Troop Minmatar Republic 3	Posted - 2015.11.12 14:21:00 - [4] - Quote jett it wrote: My previous efforts to have CRU's totally removed from the battlefield have failed. Either ccp loves to CRU camp themselves or they just dont see it like me in the video below... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fMzozbGuy4Q What I am seeing is players trying to hack the cru and once they do there whole team becomes CRU camped. CRU are suppose to help not make a fight 1 sided, that hardly seems right or even a fair fight. What you need to do is remove them and give your players benefits of carrying and dropping uplinks for the team. But once again dont listen to me, just keep letting the CRU training camp continue. Those are my thoughts with a video in case you all dont currently see it as an issue, like myself. EDIT: I think I might have gotten 2 kills at the objective plus 2 kills from an orbital. The rest were either at a CRU or very close by leading up to the CRU. Ah, CRU spawning/camping issues, this reminder me a lot of my first post on the old old forums three years ago. Nice to see peeps keeping the flame alive. Wishing you better luck than i had. o7 PSN: RationalSpark
jett it Ancient Exiles. Bleeding Sun Conglomerate 540	Posted - 2015.11.12 14:23:00 - [5] - Quote james selim brownstein wrote: I haven't played dust properly in a long time, therefor when im online for a couple of matches, i dont really notice these small details, but do they still have the passive scan feature on CRU's? Yes the passive scan is still on cru's but honestly it does not seem anyone even notices it or cares about it. They just keep spawning until the cru is hacked back. jettGaming - Youtube
jett it Ancient Exiles. Bleeding Sun Conglomerate 540	Posted - 2015.11.12 14:24:00 - [6] - Quote Vrain Matari wrote: jett it wrote: My previous efforts to have CRU's totally removed from the battlefield have failed. Either ccp loves to CRU camp themselves or they just dont see it like me in the video below... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fMzozbGuy4Q What I am seeing is players trying to hack the cru and once they do there whole team becomes CRU camped. CRU are suppose to help not make a fight 1 sided, that hardly seems right or even a fair fight. What you need to do is remove them and give your players benefits of carrying and dropping uplinks for the team. But once again dont listen to me, just keep letting the CRU training camp continue. Those are my thoughts with a video in case you all dont currently see it as an issue, like myself. EDIT: I think I might have gotten 2 kills at the objective plus 2 kills from an orbital. The rest were either at a CRU or very close by leading up to the CRU. Ah, CRU spawning/camping issues, this reminder me a lot of my first post on the old old forums three years ago. Nice to see peeps keeping the flame alive. Wishing you better luck than i had. o7 TY o7 jettGaming - Youtube
IR Scifi OSG Planetary Operations 255	Posted - 2015.11.12 14:25:00 - [7] - Quote The way I see it is: camping a cru at the enemy ground spawn, totally lame and scrubby, camping a cru at a contested point where no one is actually forced to spawn, fair game. So if you're forcing the enemy team to spawn there (because there is literally no where else for them to go)...that's bad. If it's an obvious trap and there are plenty of safe spawns yet the lemmings keep running off the cliff, sounds like a great deal not your problem.
james selim brownstein NECROM0NGERS 132	Posted - 2015.11.12 14:26:00 - [8] - Quote jett it wrote: james selim brownstein wrote: I haven't played dust properly in a long time, therefor when im online for a couple of matches, i dont really notice these small details, but do they still have the passive scan feature on CRU's? Yes the passive scan is still on cru's but honestly it does not seem anyone even notices it or cares about it. They just keep spawning until the cru is hacked back. i want the old dust back ccp :'( this dust sucks donkey balls! n++Gòª¦¦¦¦-ç¦+¦+¦+¦+ WAITING FOR DEPLOYMENTGòñGöÇGöÇGöÇ Gò¡Gê¬Gò«n+ên+¦n++n+¦n+ë KEEP CALM, & HOPE CCP FIXES THE GAME :)
jett it Ancient Exiles. Bleeding Sun Conglomerate 540	Posted - 2015.11.12 14:29:00 - [9] - Quote IR Scifi wrote: The way I see it is: camping a cru at the enemy ground spawn, totally lame and scrubby, camping a cru at a contested point where no one is actually forced to spawn, fair game. So if you're forcing the enemy team to spawn there (because there is literally no where else for them to go)...that's bad. If it's an obvious trap and there are plenty of safe spawns yet the lemmings keep running off the cliff, sounds like a great deal not your problem. I see your point but this was rather a have no where else to spawn issue rather than mcc or ground spawn. Since cru's are easily found and always in the same spots it makes for the worst possible way of getting your mercs on the battlefield safely. jettGaming - Youtube
jett it Ancient Exiles. Bleeding Sun Conglomerate 540	Posted - 2015.11.12 14:37:00 - [10] - Quote SOLUTION: Remove CRU's add in SMART DEPLOY across every game mode. Problem solved. Now whether or not ccp does it, well that is up to them... jettGaming - Youtube

james selim brownstein NECROM0NGERS 135	Posted - 2015.11.12 14:39:00 - [11] - Quote jett it wrote: SOLUTION: Remove CRU's add in SMART DEPLOY across every game mode. Problem solved. Now whether or not ccp does it, well that is up to them... nope. smart deploy is ********. n++Gòª¦¦¦¦-ç¦+¦+¦+¦+ WAITING FOR DEPLOYMENTGòñGöÇGöÇGöÇ Gò¡Gê¬Gò«n+ên+¦n++n+¦n+ë KEEP CALM, & HOPE CCP FIXES THE GAME :)
jett it Ancient Exiles. Bleeding Sun Conglomerate 541	Posted - 2015.11.12 14:43:00 - [12] - Quote james selim brownstein wrote: jett it wrote: SOLUTION: Remove CRU's add in SMART DEPLOY across every game mode. Problem solved. Now whether or not ccp does it, well that is up to them... nope. smart deploy is ********. Ok it might be bad but the way i see it is at least your team spawns together away from the enemy. Having a better chance then spawning on a cru camped by 6 enemy at close range. Smart deploy could use a once over but I see it as a feature already in the game that could solve some issues, sure it will need a few tweaks but they could get it working very effectively. jettGaming - Youtube
Ghost Kaisar Fatal Absolution 14	Posted - 2015.11.12 14:46:00 - [13] - Quote Leovarian L Lavitz wrote: Crus and point spawning should be removed. This leaves uplinks and mobile CRUs. Players dictate the battlefield. Hmmm ( -í-¦ -£-û -í-¦) Suddenly, EMP orbitals look very attractive. But no, leave point objectives. Without them, clearing a city will come down to simply killing the clones and dropping an EMP the moment you can. Completely forced out, free points to take. EDIT: Also, CRU's have an onboard scanner now. Anyone who dies to a camped CRU more than once freaking deserves it. You know they're waiting, yet you're trying to force a bad fight. Re-Retired PC Scout. I miss the old days ;_; Wanna play EVE? 30 day trial here
maybe deadcatz Serris Inc 1	Posted - 2015.11.12 14:53:00 - [14] - Quote I never had that problem,I brought uplinks. Had to plant them well hidden near the objective and establish a perimeter and defend it till I spawn in a majority of the team. Usually by then the proto stompers have managed to put two and two together and scanned in the opposite direction. And noticed a huge cluster of enemies right next to the point. And that's why I love the amarr logistics. That sidearm and uplink bonus. Ha!You can't kill me! I'm already dead!
LOL KILLZ LulKlz 494	Posted - 2015.11.12 14:54:00 - [15] - Quote jett it wrote: My previous efforts to have CRU's totally removed from the battlefield have failed. Either ccp loves to CRU camp themselves or they just dont see it like me in the video below... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fMzozbGuy4Q What I am seeing is players trying to hack the cru and once they do there whole team becomes CRU camped. CRU's are suppose to help not make a fight 1 sided, that hardly seems right or even a fair fight. What you need to do is remove them and give your players benefits of carrying and dropping uplinks for the team. But once again dont listen to me, just keep letting the CRU training camp continue. Those are my thoughts with a video in case you all dont currently see it as an issue, like myself. EDIT: I think I might have gotten 2 kills at the objective plus 2 kills from an orbital. The rest were either at a CRU or very close by leading up to the CRU. Have common sense. Spawn at the MCC and bring your own uplinks. \0/
jett it Ancient Exiles. Bleeding Sun Conglomerate 541	Posted - 2015.11.12 14:54:00 - [16] - Quote maybe deadcatz wrote: I never had that problem,I brought uplinks. Had to plant them well hidden near the objective and establish a perimeter and defend it till I spawn in a majority of the team. Usually by then the proto stompers have managed to put two and two together and scanned in the opposite direction. And noticed a huge cluster of enemies right next to the point. And that's why I love the amarr logistics. That sidearm and uplink bonus. Thats exactly what ccp needs to promote to their players, thanks for your experience :) jettGaming - Youtube
james selim brownstein NECROM0NGERS 135	Posted - 2015.11.12 14:56:00 - [17] - Quote LOL KILLZ wrote: jett it wrote: My previous efforts to have CRU's totally removed from the battlefield have failed. Either ccp loves to CRU camp themselves or they just dont see it like me in the video below... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fMzozbGuy4Q What I am seeing is players trying to hack the cru and once they do there whole team becomes CRU camped. CRU's are suppose to help not make a fight 1 sided, that hardly seems right or even a fair fight. What you need to do is remove them and give your players benefits of carrying and dropping uplinks for the team. But once again dont listen to me, just keep letting the CRU training camp continue. Those are my thoughts with a video in case you all dont currently see it as an issue, like myself. EDIT: I think I might have gotten 2 kills at the objective plus 2 kills from an orbital. The rest were either at a CRU or very close by leading up to the CRU. Have common sense. Spawn at the MCC and bring your own uplinks. LOL, "Spawn at the MCC" this mofo likes walking doesn't he. =ƒÿé n++Gòª¦¦¦¦-ç¦+¦+¦+¦+ WAITING FOR DEPLOYMENTGòñGöÇGöÇGöÇ Gò¡Gê¬Gò«n+ên+¦n++n+¦n+ë KEEP CALM, & HOPE CCP FIXES THE GAME :)
jett it Ancient Exiles. Bleeding Sun Conglomerate 541	Posted - 2015.11.12 14:57:00 - [18] - Quote LOL KILLZ wrote: jett it wrote: My previous efforts to have CRU's totally removed from the battlefield have failed. Either ccp loves to CRU camp themselves or they just dont see it like me in the video below... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fMzozbGuy4Q What I am seeing is players trying to hack the cru and once they do there whole team becomes CRU camped. CRU's are suppose to help not make a fight 1 sided, that hardly seems right or even a fair fight. What you need to do is remove them and give your players benefits of carrying and dropping uplinks for the team. But once again dont listen to me, just keep letting the CRU training camp continue. Those are my thoughts with a video in case you all dont currently see it as an issue, like myself. EDIT: I think I might have gotten 2 kills at the objective plus 2 kills from an orbital. The rest were either at a CRU or very close by leading up to the CRU. Have common sense. Spawn at the MCC and bring your own uplinks. I agree spawn mcc and ground bring links, I cant say it enough. Now if only those cru's were removed and the idea was promoted like give uplinkers more points. Add in a secondary smart deploy with a few tweaks forcing your team to fight together and things are looking much better. jettGaming - Youtube
jett it Ancient Exiles. Bleeding Sun Conglomerate 541	Posted - 2015.11.12 14:58:00 - [19] - Quote james selim brownstein wrote: LOL KILLZ wrote: jett it wrote: My previous efforts to have CRU's totally removed from the battlefield have failed. Either ccp loves to CRU camp themselves or they just dont see it like me in the video below... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fMzozbGuy4Q What I am seeing is players trying to hack the cru and once they do there whole team becomes CRU camped. CRU's are suppose to help not make a fight 1 sided, that hardly seems right or even a fair fight. What you need to do is remove them and give your players benefits of carrying and dropping uplinks for the team. But once again dont listen to me, just keep letting the CRU training camp continue. Those are my thoughts with a video in case you all dont currently see it as an issue, like myself. EDIT: I think I might have gotten 2 kills at the objective plus 2 kills from an orbital. The rest were either at a CRU or very close by leading up to the CRU. Have common sense. Spawn at the MCC and bring your own uplinks. LOL, "Spawn at the MCC" this mofo likes walking doesn't he. =ƒÿé LOL but currently its the only option really when your cru is camped by 6 enemies at close range. Just adds light to the issue at hand. jettGaming - Youtube
LOL KILLZ LulKlz 495	Posted - 2015.11.12 15:06:00 - [20] - Quote james selim brownstein wrote: LOL KILLZ wrote: jett it wrote: My previous efforts to have CRU's totally removed from the battlefield have failed. Either ccp loves to CRU camp themselves or they just dont see it like me in the video below... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fMzozbGuy4Q What I am seeing is players trying to hack the cru and once they do there whole team becomes CRU camped. CRU's are suppose to help not make a fight 1 sided, that hardly seems right or even a fair fight. What you need to do is remove them and give your players benefits of carrying and dropping uplinks for the team. But once again dont listen to me, just keep letting the CRU training camp continue. Those are my thoughts with a video in case you all dont currently see it as an issue, like myself. EDIT: I think I might have gotten 2 kills at the objective plus 2 kills from an orbital. The rest were either at a CRU or very close by leading up to the CRU. Have common sense. Spawn at the MCC and bring your own uplinks. LOL, "Spawn at the MCC" this mofo likes walking doesn't he. =ƒÿé I have a MINJA just for that. Getting links dropped fast is easy for me. \0/

james selim brownstein NECROM0NGERS 135	Posted - 2015.11.12 15:08:00 - [21] - Quote LOL KILLZ wrote: james selim brownstein wrote: LOL KILLZ wrote: jett it wrote: My previous efforts to have CRU's totally removed from the battlefield have failed. Either ccp loves to CRU camp themselves or they just dont see it like me in the video below... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fMzozbGuy4Q What I am seeing is players trying to hack the cru and once they do there whole team becomes CRU camped. CRU's are suppose to help not make a fight 1 sided, that hardly seems right or even a fair fight. What you need to do is remove them and give your players benefits of carrying and dropping uplinks for the team. But once again dont listen to me, just keep letting the CRU training camp continue. Those are my thoughts with a video in case you all dont currently see it as an issue, like myself. EDIT: I think I might have gotten 2 kills at the objective plus 2 kills from an orbital. The rest were either at a CRU or very close by leading up to the CRU. Have common sense. Spawn at the MCC and bring your own uplinks. LOL, "Spawn at the MCC" this mofo likes walking doesn't he. =ƒÿé I have a MINJA just for that. Getting links dropped fast is easy for me. I'll call a taxi thx :) n++Gòª¦¦¦¦-ç¦+¦+¦+¦+ WAITING FOR DEPLOYMENTGòñGöÇGöÇGöÇ Gò¡Gê¬Gò«n+ên+¦n++n+¦n+ë KEEP CALM, & HOPE CCP FIXES THE GAME :)
jett it Ancient Exiles. Bleeding Sun Conglomerate 544	Posted - 2015.11.12 15:08:00 - [22] - Quote LOL KILLZ wrote: james selim brownstein wrote: LOL KILLZ wrote: jett it wrote: My previous efforts to have CRU's totally removed from the battlefield have failed. Either ccp loves to CRU camp themselves or they just dont see it like me in the video below... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fMzozbGuy4Q What I am seeing is players trying to hack the cru and once they do there whole team becomes CRU camped. CRU's are suppose to help not make a fight 1 sided, that hardly seems right or even a fair fight. What you need to do is remove them and give your players benefits of carrying and dropping uplinks for the team. But once again dont listen to me, just keep letting the CRU training camp continue. Those are my thoughts with a video in case you all dont currently see it as an issue, like myself. EDIT: I think I might have gotten 2 kills at the objective plus 2 kills from an orbital. The rest were either at a CRU or very close by leading up to the CRU. Have common sense. Spawn at the MCC and bring your own uplinks. LOL, "Spawn at the MCC" this mofo likes walking doesn't he. =ƒÿé I have a MINJA just for that. Getting links dropped fast is easy for me. Its easy for any1 they are just not rewarded enough for doing it. jettGaming - Youtube
shaman oga Dead Man's Game 4	Posted - 2015.11.12 15:24:00 - [23] - Quote That's why they added scan to CRU, help camper at 20 meters and give problems to the one hacking them. Regressed to blueberry level.
jett it Ancient Exiles. Bleeding Sun Conglomerate 544	Posted - 2015.11.12 15:28:00 - [24] - Quote shaman oga wrote: That's why they added scan to CRU, help camper at 20 meters and give problems to the one hacking them. If you watch the video and read the entire thread you will see we discussed about that. The problem is they just keep spawning whether they are new or they dont know how to view the map and scan radius I dont know but it is an issue. Its even worse when it happens like in the video it was me and like 5 teammates close range camping their only cru they were spawning in by the fours and getting dropped before they could even turn around... jettGaming - Youtube
IR Scifi OSG Planetary Operations 255	Posted - 2015.11.12 16:34:00 - [25] - Quote jett it wrote: IR Scifi wrote: The way I see it is: camping a cru at the enemy ground spawn, totally lame and scrubby, camping a cru at a contested point where no one is actually forced to spawn, fair game. So if you're forcing the enemy team to spawn there (because there is literally no where else for them to go)...that's bad. If it's an obvious trap and there are plenty of safe spawns yet the lemmings keep running off the cliff, sounds like a great deal not your problem. I see your point but this was rather a have no where else to spawn issue rather than mcc or ground spawn. Since cru's are easily found and always in the same spots it makes for the worst possible way of getting your mercs on the battlefield safely. I didn't watch the video to the end (at work and the video could have used some trimming for time) but at I count at least four perfectly viable other places the team could have spawned at for the first ten minutes or so. A different match might better illustrate your point better with some of the extra fluff removed. I do despise ground spawn camping (seriously it's complete BS) but what I'll seeing here is just players happily running off the cliff. One spawn death is unfortunate, two is hoping to get lucky and break the siege, any more than that and you deserve every expensive death you get.
PARKOUR PRACTIONER L0RDS 0F LEGI0N Damage LLC 4	Posted - 2015.11.12 16:52:00 - [26] - Quote james selim brownstein wrote: LOL KILLZ wrote: jett it wrote: My previous efforts to have CRU's totally removed from the battlefield have failed. Either ccp loves to CRU camp themselves or they just dont see it like me in the video below... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fMzozbGuy4Q What I am seeing is players trying to hack the cru and once they do there whole team becomes CRU camped. CRU's are suppose to help not make a fight 1 sided, that hardly seems right or even a fair fight. What you need to do is remove them and give your players benefits of carrying and dropping uplinks for the team. But once again dont listen to me, just keep letting the CRU training camp continue. Those are my thoughts with a video in case you all dont currently see it as an issue, like myself. EDIT: I think I might have gotten 2 kills at the objective plus 2 kills from an orbital. The rest were either at a CRU or very close by leading up to the CRU. Have common sense. Spawn at the MCC and bring your own uplinks. LOL, "Spawn at the MCC" this mofo likes walking doesn't he. =ƒÿé I like walking as well, don't mind running over 700mts back-n-forth every few minutes cause I'm the only uplink scout on my team. Cal & Min saults/Min & Gal scouts/Cal & Gal mandos/Gal heavy PS4 & PC>PS3 Autistic Athlete
PARKOUR PRACTIONER L0RDS 0F LEGI0N Damage LLC 4	Posted - 2015.11.12 17:01:00 - [27] - Quote Ghost Kaisar wrote: Leovarian L Lavitz wrote: Crus and point spawning should be removed. This leaves uplinks and mobile CRUs. Players dictate the battlefield. Hmmm ( -í-¦ -£-û -í-¦) Suddenly, EMP orbitals look very attractive. But no, leave point objectives. Without them, clearing a city will come down to simply killing the clones and dropping an EMP the moment you can. Completely forced out, free points to take. EDIT: Also, CRU's have an onboard scanner now. Anyone who dies to a camped CRU more than once freaking deserves it. You know they're waiting, yet you're trying to force a bad fight. I think the EMPs would be underrated Farm kills first, points second/never Sometimes its that easy, then 1+1 gets put together, then its time to take outside points Its constantly ignored There are plenty of.... slow learners in Dust. But sometimes you can turn it into a good fight. Then more reds show up.... time to go. Cal & Min saults/Min & Gal scouts/Cal & Gal mandos/Gal heavy PS4 & PC>PS3 Autistic Athlete
Booby Tuesdays Bad Mother Thukkers 2	Posted - 2015.11.12 17:07:00 - [28] - Quote I swear that every time I try and hack a spawn camped CRU, I'm the one who gets shot by the redberry that spawns in and is invincible for a few seconds. Half Assed Forum Warrior - Half Decent Commando - Damn Good Logi - Matari Freedom Fighter lvl 8
7th Son 7 Hakuna Matatah Inc 1	Posted - 2015.11.12 17:11:00 - [29] - Quote They were noobs or stubborn as sh!t to keep spawning on that point like that though, but yes those situations can suck. Only your complete and total awareness is needed, nothing else will do. ----- OSHO
ROMULUS H3X research lab 849	Posted - 2015.11.12 17:27:00 - [30] - Quote jett it wrote: shaman oga wrote: That's why they added scan to CRU, help camper at 20 meters and give problems to the one hacking them. If you watch the video and read the entire thread you will see we discussed about that. The problem is they just keep spawning whether they are new or they dont know how to view the map and scan radius I dont know but it is an issue. Its even worse when it happens like in the video it was me and like 5 teammates close range camping their only cru they were spawning in by the fours and getting dropped before they could even turn around... This only happens to newberries and those who are up for a real challenge of 6 mercs waiting on the next clone to spew out.. Not really a rampant problem.. 95% of the time theres someone like me who runs in and hacks it, like me. FORGE/FLAYLOCK/FISTS PLASMA/PISTOL/PUNCH ALL OF YOU PUNKS GET HUMILIATED AFTER LUNCH!



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