So av's biggest gripe is with not being easily balanced 1v1. This completely ignores that you can have many people in a vehicle, yet still be just as flimsy.

What if vehicle skills were not damage output based, but defense based. Not only that, but with each person in the vehicle it would stack (lets say you plug your dropsuit power supply into the vehicle to boost it's efficiency.)

This also has the added bonus of, when someone jumps out of their tank to shoot at you, their tank becomes weak as an unfit LAV... Meanwhile when calling in a vehicle, have the RDV boost the vehicles shields for a shot period (to avoid easy farming vehicles as they're called in.)


End result (hopefully) aver's stop whining about not being able to 1v1 a tank, because now they're all 1v3ing a tank instead.

Just got 1 shoted by militia railgun on a sica, sorry, but this isn't enough
1. Buff swarm range
2 add railgun dispertion
3 slow down acceleration on tanks
4 reduce hardeners to 30%
After these things, then we can talk about tweaks

Just got 1 shoted by militia railgun on a sica, sorry, but this isn't enough
1. Buff swarm range
2 add railgun dispertion
3 slow down acceleration on tanks
4 reduce hardeners to 30%
After these things, then we can talk about tweaks

1. Not convinced it's needed
2. Why should the sniper weapon be given dispersion? No.
3. Yes agreed. Has been needed for a long time.
4. In my experiences gardeners are now at a good place considering the immortal Maddy is gone so...maaaaybe? I think if would do more harm than good honestly.
Why not talk about a latteral move now? I mean the numbers for this stuff has been fiddled with to no end, and its just been a back and forth flame war that's taken up the devs time. A balancing solution that relys less on straight math with the mechanics as they are and more on changing up the meta might be just what's needed. So you can stay out of the conversation, but that doesn't mean it shouldn't be had.

WORST. ARGUMENT. EVER.

I got one shot by a railgun, MLT AT THAT. Nerf please.

Never mind a railgun is lucky to come out with more than 10 kills in a match this way.

Forget the fact that it isn't easy to land a direct shot, generally requiring multiple shots to land just the one killing blow (or give up)

Let's ignore the guy going 25 - 0 with a railgun or AR, cause a rail gun killed me ONCE the entire match.

I find it incredible that you would call the railgun OP due to one instance in which you were killed by it! I've been playing this game for a VERY long time and have been focused mainly on tanks in this time. Railguns at that.

I'm well aware of it's limitations and strengths. You sir are not. Do me a favor, got grab a MLT tank, slap a railgun on it, and get a kill with it. And in the process, please note the number of shots it took to get this kill. Targets that stand perfectly still don't count btw.

I don't know about the rest of you but if a tank does magically manage to kill me with a railgun, I get mad. I get mad because I of all people know better, therefore it must have been a lucky shot. And thus, that tank shall no longer exists for the entirety of the match.

Or, you know, I like, shrug it off and continue on cause I know that it's quite a rare occurrence.

Is it always a lucky shot?

I've screamed it for a long time now, hardeners last far too long, especially where the maddie is concerned. The strength of hardeners is fine, but 45 seconds is like forever in the maddies case.

Is it always a lucky shot?

The hardener remark was in reply to nerfing the dr granted to 30%, not the time of activation. So...again maybe...I wouldn't be opposed to that change nearly as much as I was to the decreasing DMg resistance, I do think that the arguments I've heard for bringing the vehicle system closed to chromosome, or else make vehicles perform better based on how many passengers are inside would both be better ideas...or at least worth considering.

I've screamed it for a long time now, hardeners last far too long, especially where the maddie is concerned. The strength of hardeners is fine, but 45 seconds is like forever in the maddies case.

Swarms do need their range back, but at the same time vehicles need a buff. Dropships and LAVs especially.

LAVs need more HP and dropships need more fitting room.

Nerf hardener up time and resistance amount and add a skill that makes hardeners slightly better per level.

Make armour reps active on heavy modules if possible.

Lower tank speed and give slightly more HP proportional to speed lost

Give vehicle related skills actual bonuses, like more PG and Cpu and spawn reduction time on mCRUs.

Reduce fitting cost on Light HP related modules.

More ideas may follow, phone almost dead.

If they get more health, the hardener should lose efficiency. 40% resistance on something with over 5k armour is dumb.