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deezy dabest
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Posted - 2015.11.07 18:38:00 -
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The PS4 is built just like a PC now meaning the difficulties we saw with the whole cell processor debacle of the PS3 is long gone. This also means that PC experience applies to the PS4 as well.
As a bonus the PS4 is a standardized platform meaning no need for all this cross optimization for different GPUs and CPUs.
Sony finally seems to have gotten it right on the OS security meaning that console modding is much more rare which means that much less system resources must be devoted to security.
While at the end of the day I am happy with either platform I think the PS4 provides a brighter future for the game as well as a brighter future in terms of company wide revenue for CCP. Splitting up the current Eve base instead of going after a share of millions of players who prefer to stick to only console is just a bad call all around.
We have already seen CCPs eagerness to diversify platforms and I do not believe this will be any different. Currently they are on mobile, mobile/VR, PC, PC/VR, PS3(barely), and PS4/VR. The only gap missing there is a raw PS4 game. Basic company actions say they are giving in and going to PS4 but only time will tell.
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deezy dabest
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Posted - 2015.11.09 18:00:00 -
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How many of us will be grinding on Planetside 2 that day?
Also lets not forget Star Wars Battlefront comes out on the 17th so there will likely be a passive strike from many players that day.
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deezy dabest
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Posted - 2015.11.10 17:13:00 -
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maybe deadcatz wrote:
Nope. He's skipping a lot of the parts. And he's going over on the base price. He didn't add in a kb/m, WiFi/Ethernet modules,proper internal cooling like johnny said. Guess you can't build a PC that beats the ps4 at the same price.
Whoever got you guys running around rambling "proper internal cooling" has played a cruel joke on you.
AMD processors come with a great stock heat sync and fan.
Nearly every graphics card made in the last 10 years comes with a stock fan. This of course doesn't not include the super low end Radeon type cards which are going to freeze up before they can get hot enough if you are putting any real load on them.
Nearly every case comes with at very minimum a front 120mm fan. Not like $5 for an additional 120mm LED fan is really going to break the build budget.
Unless you plan on wrapping your PC in a blanket "proper internal cooling" is not even close to an issue.
On to the price thing. you are correct that $450 probably will not cover it for a mid level rig. The funny thing is that is going to leave you in dump town on the PS4.
Lets look at some numbers over a 4 year period.
PS4 Bundle with 1 game = $350 + tax + shipping = $380 (rough number)
PS+ 1 year membership = $50 * 4 years assuming no price changes = $200
Basic level full headset = $50
Additional games = $50 each (averaged for sales and discounts) * 2 games every 6 months = $800
DLCs on each game I will not add in because that is highly variable just remember that possible cost is there.
For the average person in 4 years you can assume 1 replacement controller = $60
So now in a 4 year period to get basic enjoyment out of your shiny new PS4 we are at $1,490 not including DLCs and possible extra controllers.
A well built PC from current parts currently would have no problem lasting 4 years with zero upgrades. No it will not be running 4k but it will hold 1080p @ 60 - 120hz on any game out there which is far more than the PS4 can say.
This "well built PC" I mention is probably going to run you about $800 - $850 including all of the essentials plus a basic headset and an adjustable gaming mouse.
Steam is not a subscription service.
Additional games we will call a $30 average thanks to never ending sales and an amazing amount of free games.
For the same number of games as my PS4 example = $480
Replacement of the gaming mouse I mentioned $50.
Putting the grand total at $1,480.
My point here is all of you guys arguing over price point are wasting your time. On top of my above estimates, the more active you are in PC gaming the more it will cost and the more active you are on PS4 the more it will cost. The only difference is what form the cash grab really takes on.
Ultimately the PC does have a higher up front cost with cheaper participation and more long term abilities through small upgrades.
I have already said in my previous analysis of CCP that I very strongly believe that PS4 is the way to go from both a community standpoint and from a monetary stand point for CCP.
Stop with the wasting time on PC versus PS4 debate. We get it, you like console and do not want to build a PC. We get it you think PC is far better. I have both sitting right here and can tell you that like everything else in life they both have their strengths and weaknesses so it comes down to preference.
In terms of arguing on where the port is going, STOP WASTING YOUR BREATH. CCP has very likely been working on the Legion code in the background this whole time while they farm the PS3 players for all of the money they can. This means that a platform has long been decided and nothing you say here is anything more than blowing hot air.
Before you PC guys say SEE THEY BEEN BUILDING IT just remember that the PS4 is internally structured to resemble a PC meaning they could have literally dropped the code over and started working on a control scheme and basic optimizations at any time. There is simply no way to know where they will end up without waiting.
If all you guys would put this effort into telling CCP it is time to break the silence and quit dumping on the future of this game a few people giving up at a time we would probably already have a freaking announcement.
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deezy dabest
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Evil Syndicate Alliance.
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Posted - 2015.11.10 23:33:00 -
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DozersMouse XIII wrote:postapo wastelander wrote: 90% of those alliances don't even play anymore they're just names on a roster #baptizethedead
90% is way over estimating but yes you are correct that there are a lot of inactive people on both rosters. The point is it reaches quite a few active players as well. Some of those active people even reach active people outside of the alliances.
Why are you so mad people want to organize against the silence?
Is rumor mongering your favorite past time?
Do you not want to have to decide if you want to buy a new platform or not?
Maybe you just really enjoy proto stomping and want to be able to say your proto stomped a whole game to the ground?
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deezy dabest
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Posted - 2015.11.10 23:50:00 -
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DozersMouse XIII wrote:deezy dabest wrote:DozersMouse XIII wrote:postapo wastelander wrote: 90% of those alliances don't even play anymore they're just names on a roster #baptizethedead 90% is way over estimating but yes you are correct that there are a lot of inactive people on both rosters. The point is it reaches quite a few active players as well. Some of those active people even reach active people outside of the alliances. Why are you so mad people want to organize against the silence? Is rumor mongering your favorite past time? Do you not want to have to decide if you want to buy a new platform or not? Maybe you just really enjoy proto stomping and want to be able to say your proto stomped a whole game to the ground? Because this is not a movement by any means Just a bunch of kids with an internet connection believing they matter.
Lots of players on that list have given CCP hundreds and in my case well well over 1000 dollars.
Keep fighting for the PS3 tho. That way when you ride this thing to the ground we can laugh at you playing catch up on a new console.
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deezy dabest
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Posted - 2015.11.11 10:21:00 -
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postapo wastelander wrote:DozersMouse XIII wrote:Then why the **** are you striking? Honestly
Ccp has stated 1.3 is right around the corner
And if I'm not mistaken that counts as changes to our current version right?
So what the **** is the reason for you striking again? We tried to be reassonable with you. You start with trolling, lying, slender and vulgarism ergo you needs to find answer from someone else. Propably the best way will be if you just leave. You already showed us what kind of person you are and even when we told you you just start with nonsences. There is no help for you and please stop stalking me and lying about me. Thank you.
He is obviously representative of the community which CCP loves to milk so well.
He says he wants to spend $200 on the 14th and I encourage him to do so. In fact I encourage him to spend every penny he has.
The real truth is he will probably logon, gripe about the same stuff he always does, play his couple of matches and log out feeling accomplished that he got some free AUR and a free strong box key.
He represents what has become left over on the PS3. Stasists will always say you are wrong if you are talking about something out of their norm and they will probably fight as we see here. Some people are just so afraid of change that they would not climb out of the sewer if it is what they are use too.
Humans gonna human. Unfortunately there will always be a lowest common denominator.
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deezy dabest
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Posted - 2015.11.11 19:54:00 -
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DozersMouse XIII wrote:deezy dabest wrote:postapo wastelander wrote:DozersMouse XIII wrote:Then why the **** are you striking? Honestly
Ccp has stated 1.3 is right around the corner
And if I'm not mistaken that counts as changes to our current version right?
So what the **** is the reason for you striking again? We tried to be reassonable with you. You start with trolling, lying, slender and vulgarism ergo you needs to find answer from someone else. Propably the best way will be if you just leave. You already showed us what kind of person you are and even when we told you you just start with nonsences. There is no help for you and please stop stalking me and lying about me. Thank you. He is obviously representative of the community which CCP loves to milk so well. He says he wants to spend $200 on the 14th and I encourage him to do so. In fact I encourage him to spend every penny he has. The real truth is he will probably logon, gripe about the same stuff he always does, play his couple of matches and log out feeling accomplished that he got some free AUR and a free strong box key. He represents what has become left over on the PS3. Stasists will always say you are wrong if you are talking about something out of their norm and they will probably fight as we see here. Some people are just so afraid of change that they would not climb out of the sewer if it is what they are use too. Humans gonna human. Unfortunately there will always be a lowest common denominator. grow up and play your video games idiot
I love how your only responses now are idiot idiot idiot.
Quick question:
If we are all so stupid and wasting our time why the hell do you keep responding?
Just unsubscribe from the thread and enjoy your extra load times on the 14th while I get my continuous action on Planetside.
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deezy dabest
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Posted - 2015.11.11 20:40:00 -
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postapo wastelander wrote:
I have some theory about him.
He slander myself yesterday and even lied about me.
If he do not have some personal issue he just trying to be agitator/strikebreaker.
What is really pathetic, if you consider we trying to do better for this game.
deezy dabest wrote:
He represents what has become left over on the PS3. Stasists will always say you are wrong if you are talking about something out of their norm and they will probably fight as we see here. Some people are just so afraid of change that they would not climb out of the sewer if it is what they are use too.
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deezy dabest
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Posted - 2015.11.12 01:46:00 -
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DozersMouse XIII wrote:So anyone doing the strike on the 14th, your all ******* anal bead chokers, also, the fact that some people are fighting for superiority on the forums against CCP is like racing to be first on the short bus.
Hundreds of players are bitching about constant monetisation, silence of future updates etc etc, yet.. This has been happening since the induction of DUST 514 to PS3, good job fuckbags o/
If your bitching about constant monetisation, that means you should go and ***** to Youtube about their pre-video ad's, TV networks for putting up commercials tempting you into buying **** thats "Hot on sales!" right now, and every other company thats out there trying to make a buck.
As someone who works in the game industry, they cant put out any future update information due to a Non-Disclosure Agreement EVERY employee signs in their contract as its a breach of company activity, which could lead to other companies enacting corporate espionage. So calm your **** and stop being a virgin ass bunch of faggots bitching about **** your gonna get, you ***** about wanting this and that, you get this and that, then you continue to ***** cos your ungrateful cunts.
I'll be online on the 14th spamming pubs in my 674 Frames cos i can. #KDPaddingScrubsFTW
Grow a brain ya bunch of crayon eating motherfuckers.
P.S. Forward all hate mail to Lord Elron
It makes me hard where i pee. Cheers.
Elton gets it
I am happy you were able to be here to show just how ignorant the people who actually still support the current state of the game.
I am glad you could also show you care more about getting to e-peen wave that you can leave battles and run officer gear against only newbies so you can brag about how your stats look.
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deezy dabest
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Posted - 2015.11.14 21:03:00 -
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It is obvious that the majority of the community that is still here would prefer to stew in mediocrity and distrust all the way to the end with no chance of ever becoming the vision that was presented to us or even getting treated like a real video game should.
It is amazing how few people see a problem with the fact that we have been dealing with the same "balancing" for 3 years now.
It is even more amazing that as it stands not only have we seen zero new content added in well over a year but that we actually have less content now than we did on day 1 of Uprising or even back in beta and some how people love this.
I have had a problem with where this community has been heading since the exodus of fanfest 2014 but it is only now that I understand why.
Have fun being big fishes in a tiny pond that happens to be composed of run off from an unregulated landfill.
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deezy dabest
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Posted - 2015.11.14 23:49:00 -
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Devadander wrote:deezy dabest wrote:It is obvious that the majority of the community that is still here would prefer to stew in mediocrity and distrust all the way to the end with no chance of ever becoming the vision that was presented to us or even getting treated like a real video game should.
It is amazing how few people see a problem with the fact that we have been dealing with the same "balancing" for 3 years now.
It is even more amazing that as it stands not only have we seen zero new content added in well over a year but that we actually have less content now than we did on day 1 of Uprising or even back in beta and some how people love this.
I have had a problem with where this community has been heading since the exodus of fanfest 2014 but it is only now that I understand why.
Have fun being big fishes in a tiny pond that happens to be composed of run off from an unregulated landfill. Hard truth of it is, nothing we do can change CCP. Nothing will make them tell us things they don't want to, or give us things that haven't been made yet Our choices are HTFU, or play something else.
Yea I have already made the jump to planetside 2 on PS4. I just stop in to Dust every now and then. Generally it is no more than 4 - 5 matches as every one of them is seriously broken and once you add in the AMAZING amount of time you get sitting around in Dust waiting on squads, waiting on matches, and waiting on people who got disconnected it is a huge waste of time.
Currently watching oil paint dry is more fun than Dust.
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deezy dabest
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Posted - 2015.11.15 01:56:00 -
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Devadander wrote:
I've done so much optimization for dust, I barely lag unless the whole map is, and even more rarely DC.
I never have to wait cause I run tandem or solo more often than anything.
These days I run fits that are oddball just to have more fun.
When I quit caring about everything, I was freed.
Running solo means you are pretty much guaranteed uneven matches in which 8 out of every 10 will be a red line. Matchmaking simply sucks too bad for those running solo unless you are lucky enough to have a magic MU.
Who would have thought that a lobby shooter with no lobbies would be a bad idea.
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