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TheD1CK Dead Man's Game 2	Posted - 2015.11.07 01:12:00 - [1] - Quote Despite the fact any time I bother, it's usually a invite for trolls and a early grave Hawkings grab a chair and a glass of water.. this may take a while A few changes that would increase gameplay quality for all modes + gamers Suit locks for weapons. - To use a PRO weapon, it could only be equipped on a PRO suit (not APEX) - Any weapon can be fit on a suit equal or above the weapons tier. (I have no issue on including modules here, though I am sure a few will) Meta locks for battles. All Public contracts lockout anything above ADV with the above lock in place ^^ (I'd really love a high risk gamemode added with this, where proto was expected + some added bonus) FW. The only change I'd make here is allowing platoons to deploy, easier access to fights this way. (I'd kill for a lobby based FW rather than the searches.. but I can dream) PC. Penalties to stacking districts - Increases to CP cost when using clones from a district on a stacked timer. - So I send clones from a 18:00 district while I have a second district at this timer. CP cost x2 (x3 for 3 districts etc.) - Bring back salvage to both teams, this way when outmatched you can at least earn some gear. This imo would be a much better foundation for good battles. feedback is welcome A sweet idea poached from LHughes and mixed with some thoughts I had.. - Fittings for each gamemode (along with metalock) - I've always wanted to be able to side scroll and have more than one list of fittings !! - Public (Metalocked) - FW (All) - PC (Uber tryhard). A big issue I have is having mostly PC fits, and not bothering to remake them for pubs as it would mean making the same fits often, so I pretty much proto scrub as often as anyone. (luckily I'm bad) Adding more fitting lists solve this. Metalocks get complained about as some fits dodge the higher numbers too easily, to counter this.. - CHANGE THE NUMBERS!! (Sentinel meta increase to make up for lack of slots leading to lower lvl) Now, these are just tweaks to make the game more enjoyable and accessible for all mercs.. here's the good part SOONtm
TheD1CK Dead Man's Game 2	Posted - 2015.11.07 01:12:00 - [2] - Quote Derping SOONtm
TheD1CK Dead Man's Game 2	Posted - 2015.11.07 01:38:00 - [3] - Quote lol.. when discussing this in-game earlier.. the one thing I was advised.. was to keep it simple The wall of text glaring at you on your screen had other ideas Archduke, do I at least get a cookie for effort.. or should I stick to ranting ?? SOONtm
Radiant Pancake3 KILL-EM-QUICK 2	Posted - 2015.11.07 01:40:00 - [4] - Quote You should eat more tacos... Anyway on topic... Seems... special... Learned the ways of N4g from Alcina's mom Deemed the most Kinkiest Corp Mate. Min Loyalist.
TheD1CK Dead Man's Game 2	Posted - 2015.11.07 01:43:00 - [5] - Quote Radiant Pancake3 wrote: You should eat more tacos... Anyway on topic... Seems... special... Beer > Tacos SOONtm
Radiant Pancake3 KILL-EM-QUICK 2	Posted - 2015.11.07 01:51:00 - [6] - Quote TheD1CK wrote: Radiant Pancake3 wrote: You should eat more tacos... Anyway on topic... Seems... special... Clearly it must be.. thanks for the reply. You're like a Blaziken Pancake ...I am no where near Blaziken... Don't even say that... let alone type it... I'd rather get impaled. Learned the ways of N4g from Alcina's mom Deemed the most Kinkiest Corp Mate. Min Loyalist.
TheD1CK Dead Man's Game 2	Posted - 2015.11.07 01:53:00 - [7] - Quote Radiant Pancake3 wrote: TheD1CK wrote: Radiant Pancake3 wrote: You should eat more tacos... Anyway on topic... Seems... special... Clearly it must be.. thanks for the reply. You're like a Blaziken Pancake ...I am no where near Blaziken... Don't even say that... let alone type it... I'd rather get impaled. Liking the post while adding nothing constructive sounds a lot like Blaziken.. are your sure you're not ?? Anyway... not going to completely derail my own post this time. Thanks for dropping by SOONtm
The KTM Duke Capital Acquisitions LLC 1	Posted - 2015.11.07 08:57:00 - [8] - Quote TheD1CK wrote: Radiant Pancake3 wrote: TheD1CK wrote: Radiant Pancake3 wrote: You should eat more tacos... Anyway on topic... Seems... special... Clearly it must be.. thanks for the reply. You're like a Blaziken Pancake ...I am no where near Blaziken... Don't even say that... let alone type it... I'd rather get impaled. Liking the post while adding nothing constructive sounds a lot like Blaziken.. are your sure you're not ?? Anyway... not going to completely derail my own post this time. Thanks for dropping by What if i dont put a like and i dont add anything constructive? Anyway sslvage for loding pc is weird that means that in a no-show(sh-it show) enemy can take your gear thanks to teamkilling... Out for "x" weeks, broken scaphoid // RIP KTM Duke o7. La salute non è un gioco. I'm alive
Twelve Guage Random Gunz Rise Of Legion. 1	Posted - 2015.11.07 10:03:00 - [9] - Quote I like where this is going but it still does not account for the passive ability received from skilling up. Maybe the bonuses your talking about should be added to the basic frame suits that way everyone can be mostly on equal footing. The Mistress of Massdrivers Buying TaireiGÇÖs CrimsonGÇÖ AM-L skins 4m ea Check out my thread in player
Jadek Menaheim 1nner.Heaven 7	Posted - 2015.11.07 10:03:00 - [10] - Quote I do like these. The Meta level suggestions and the WP reward per what you kill are a nice synergy. It feels like that synergy would be even stronger if WPs had an out of match use. caveat...ways to farm WP would have to be strongly reviewed and addressed, e.g. 90% warpoints for kills are not rewarded until the clone is terminated. 10% is awarded to incapacitating a clone. Dust 514 Market Trello. The essential resource for trading in Dust.

D4GG3R Opus Arcana 2	Posted - 2015.11.07 10:07:00 - [11] - Quote Twelve Guage wrote: I like where this is going but it still does not account for the passive ability received from skilling up. Maybe the bonuses your talking about should be added to the basic frame suits that way everyone can be mostly on equal footing. No. If everyone is completely on equal footing what is the point in gaining skill points "Dagger is like a mage, damage him enough and he runs." -Nega Matix I watch anime for the boobs
duster 35000 557	Posted - 2015.11.07 10:10:00 - [12] - Quote >metalock nice meme the only way to run caldari is proto same with ScR's vs armor We'll bang ok?
Jadek Menaheim 1nner.Heaven 7	Posted - 2015.11.07 10:17:00 - [13] - Quote D4GG3R wrote: Twelve Guage wrote: I like where this is going but it still does not account for the passive ability received from skilling up. Maybe the bonuses your talking about should be added to the basic frame suits that way everyone can be mostly on equal footing. No. If everyone is completely on equal footing what is the point in gaining skill points Skilling up allows you to expand your toolbox of death and put the screws down on various play-counter/play situations with the best screwdriver. Dust 514 Market Trello. The essential resource for trading in Dust.
Twelve Guage Random Gunz Rise Of Legion. 1	Posted - 2015.11.07 10:24:00 - [14] - Quote D4GG3R wrote: Twelve Guage wrote: I like where this is going but it still does not account for the passive ability received from skilling up. Maybe the bonuses your talking about should be added to the basic frame suits that way everyone can be mostly on equal footing. No. If everyone is completely on equal footing what is the point in gaining skill points I can see that you have clearly misunderstood what I'm going for here. I am merely suggesting that the listed bonus here be applied to these suits or game modes with these suits in it. It would be a nice easy and less painful way to to encourage game play between newbies and vets or solo player. The Mistress of Massdrivers Buying TaireiGÇÖs CrimsonGÇÖ AM-L skins 4m ea Check out my thread in player
ANON Cerberus TerranProtossZerg 921	Posted - 2015.11.07 10:51:00 - [15] - Quote Dead game is on life support. I love what dust could have been and what it sometimes can be but there are way to many bugs, problems and issues with the game as it stands.
Megaman Trigger OSG Planetary Operations 920	Posted - 2015.11.07 11:14:00 - [16] - Quote If Public contracts were limited to ADV or lower, would APEX be made exempt from the lockout (being between STD and ADV) or would it be classed as PRO and limited to FW and PC despite being all STD equivalent gear? Would APEX get reclassed as non-PRO? I like the idea of more WP for killing tiers above your own. What would the WP reward be for killing Officer with Militia? Would Officer fits get even less WP for killing lower tier fits than PRO does to discourage Officer stomps? Purifier. First Class.
Hawkings Greenback Dead Man's Game 433	Posted - 2015.11.07 11:33:00 - [17] - Quote Archduke quick, someone has hacked TheD1CKs account and has stopped ** posting. Better ban him before it happens again. I am quietly confident that Ratatti and crew are working on the power core idea, hopefully that can extend to weapons etc Hopefully it'll drop soon. There is a very interesting friction in trying to get new people retained in this game whilst not annoying vets enough to make them leave. Making the skill points earned be worthwhile for vets but allowing new players to feel competitive in matches and allow skill full play to close the gP some more. Some of those things you have suggested will probably help. However expect a lot of resistance from people who cannot play this game without their gear and skill point advantage. At this stage I expect CCP to do enough to keep this game ticking over and keep as many people here as they can. Nice to see a non ** post, so the ban hammer threat must be working XD "Forum Lurker" since 2012
Mortishai Belmont G.L.O.R.Y 1	Posted - 2015.11.07 11:45:00 - [18] - Quote Personally I think being able to put a proto weapon on a lower tier suit is just fine, but it should perhaps cost a bit more CPU & PG to do so, to make it more of a trade off. Personally I think meta locked matches would be nice. It would certainly stop the whining of a lot of Anti-Proto people. Oh god, platoon for FW would be awesome. The only problem is the mass amount of people you would get crying about it being unfair. Since teamwork is entirely too OP for some. I really wouldn't mind your suggested changes to PC either. I do think fitting lists needs a bit more depth, especially for game modes. I mean, what good is a hacking scout in an ambush? I don't wanna change my modules for everyone new game mode I go into. I have 111mil life time SP so my fitting limit is always close, if not, full anyway. Now for the sad news. With all "Improve the game" threads I see, I like to point out that it's basically a waste of time. CCP clearly doesn't care enough about making changes or improving, they just want more money (hence all the skins). The people there that would like to make change can't. Truly I think the first and foremost focus needs to be performance fixes. Too much lag, games half empty, and the tens of glitches and game stopping errors. Also, sadly, these will not be addressed or fixed either. I have 0 faith in CCP ._. Total faith in Archduke and Rattati though, those guys are awesome :D The C.E.O. of G.L.O.R.Y, (~..)~ Now on Youtube ~(..~)
JAKE REDBLOOD Intara Direct Action 313	Posted - 2015.11.07 12:01:00 - [19] - Quote Is still think PC should go back got the old payouts as well, ie - losers get 0 isk, winners get is all My YouTube Channel
dusty5678 0uter.Heaven 359	Posted - 2015.11.07 12:22:00 - [20] - Quote This^^^^^^ Also, love the corp tag Jadek. "Terrible thing to send a universe to certain doom... Fun though!" Long Live Queen ZarZar <3 CCP act like you care.

JARREL THOMAS Dead Man's Game 856	Posted - 2015.11.07 13:55:00 - [21] - Quote Maybe the blueberries could finally have a chance. Caldari Loyalist. ( -í° -£-û -í°) No.
TheD1CK Dead Man's Game 2	Posted - 2015.11.07 14:06:00 - [22] - Quote Megaman Trigger wrote: If Public contracts were limited to ADV or lower, would APEX be made exempt from the lockout (being between STD and ADV) or would it be classed as PRO and limited to FW and PC despite being all STD equivalent gear? Would APEX get reclassed as non-PRO? I like the idea of more WP for killing tiers above your own. What would the WP reward be for killing Officer with Militia? Would Officer fits get even less WP for killing lower tier fits than PRO does to discourage Officer stomps? APEX should be what it is.. APEX.. having it be a duct tape proto suit is just lazy imo - So it would rank below ADV SOONtm
JARREL THOMAS Dead Man's Game 856	Posted - 2015.11.07 14:09:00 - [23] - Quote duster 35000 wrote: >metalock nice meme the only way to run caldari is proto same with ScR's vs armor No not really as long as everyone is on the same meta as you then its not that difficult. With that said Dont touch me Caldari Loyalist. ( -í° -£-û -í°) No.
TheD1CK Dead Man's Game 2	Posted - 2015.11.07 14:16:00 - [24] - Quote JAKE REDBLOOD wrote: Is still think PC should go back got the old payouts as well, ie - losers get 0 isk, winners get is all The problem here is.. if CCP add too much reward for PC.. the circlejerks farm it (even without farming being an option, by sitting in stacked teams yhou can just farm actual people) We've seen how fast mercs chase the bandwagon for a paycheck, if payouts suck, blame them I'd be more open to.. - Increase winning payout % (we've been in 300 clone meatgrinders.. and paid 1.7mil.. wtf??) (And this is with good gear being used, not a good payout at all considering that's barely 1 mercs losses) - Both teams get salvage. (I know Rattati wanted lore blablablerp) But Rattati does not PC, and when you are against the odds with some guys murdering with Ghalags RR.. it is pretty nice to be able to kill the scrub and earn his weapon.. no salvage on losing side.. is just less reason to fight.. SOONtm
Vrain Matari Mikramurka Shock Troop Minmatar Republic 3	Posted - 2015.11.07 15:05:00 - [25] - Quote ANON Cerberus wrote: Dead game is on life support. I love what dust could have been and what it sometimes can be but there are way to many bugs, problems and issues with the game as it stands. Yes, but.....the thing is many of these changes can still be made. The discussions about how we distribute warpoints and asymmetric payouts have been going on for a long time but the devs don't seem very interested in them. That's a pity, because give the pressure-cooker, uneven playing field we're married to(and love), asymmetric payouts might be the single biggest bang-for-the-buck change Rattati could make to the NPE, which is Dust's single biggest weakness and the primary factor limiting growth of our playerbase. We don't need more devtime spent on skins, etc., when there's still so much more that can be done for the in-match player experience. @D1CK Been thinking lately about the possibility of some kind of alternate faction mode where the Factions provide racially pre-fitted dropsuits at STD level, with some flex slots for personal flavor. Faction standings would allow some kind of modifications of the stock loadout, or perhaps a higher meta level for the loadout, or perhaps higher tier faction-provided suits. We'd have to exclude vehicles because no racial symmetry. But the thing is the free suits wouldn't be available outside of this faction mode so would not mess with the rest of the game, like BPOs or APEX or PC ISK does. The primary currency of the game mode could be standing and/or LP, which we could spend to modify loadouts or something to that effect. Still a half baked idea, but it naturally provides a soft metalock that is plausible and workable. PSN: RationalSpark
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 28	Posted - 2015.11.07 17:00:00 - [26] - Quote TheD1CK wrote: *Suit locks for weapons.* - To use a PRO weapon, it could only be equipped on a PRO suit (not APEX) - Any weapon can be fit on a suit equal or above the weapons tier. I don't think I agree. When a newbie is looking to upgrade their first piece of kit, what is it normally? I imagine that in the vast majority of cases it's their weapon. So this newbie has gotten assault rifles 3. They've bought a shiny new GEK-38 and are eager to use it... Only to discover that they need a hefty chunk more SP before they can, despite having unlocked it I don't think fitting proto weapons on ADV suits is a problem. It's prohibitively expensive both in terms of ISK and fitting resources for a very minor benefit. Arkena Wyrnspire aka "British Khorne" - Cross Atu Kaze, you are best logi. Best. Logi.
TheD1CK Dead Man's Game 2	Posted - 2015.11.07 17:03:00 - [27] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: TheD1CK wrote: *Suit locks for weapons.* - To use a PRO weapon, it could only be equipped on a PRO suit (not APEX) - Any weapon can be fit on a suit equal or above the weapons tier. I don't think I agree. When a newbie is looking to upgrade their first piece of kit, what is it normally? I imagine that in the vast majority of cases it's their weapon. So this newbie has gotten assault rifles 3. They've bought a shiny new GEK-38 and are eager to use it... Only to discover that they need a hefty chunk more SP before they can, despite having unlocked it I don't think fitting proto weapons on ADV suits is a problem. It's prohibitively expensive both in terms of ISK and fitting resources for a very minor benefit. Indeed, but it causes more issue for metalocks And the WP for kills based on tiers would be thrown off, by cheap suit w/PRO weapon - A newbie is not getting that far ahead with just a gun.. being told he needs the suit to go with it would help imo And don't forget the 750k cap.. not too much effort to grind for a new suit SOONtm
Mobius Wyvern Fatal Absolution Bleeding Sun Conglomerate 7	Posted - 2015.11.07 17:21:00 - [28] - Quote TheD1CK wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: TheD1CK wrote: *Suit locks for weapons.* - To use a PRO weapon, it could only be equipped on a PRO suit (not APEX) - Any weapon can be fit on a suit equal or above the weapons tier. I don't think I agree. When a newbie is looking to upgrade their first piece of kit, what is it normally? I imagine that in the vast majority of cases it's their weapon. So this newbie has gotten assault rifles 3. They've bought a shiny new GEK-38 and are eager to use it... Only to discover that they need a hefty chunk more SP before they can, despite having unlocked it I don't think fitting proto weapons on ADV suits is a problem. It's prohibitively expensive both in terms of ISK and fitting resources for a very minor benefit. Indeed, but it causes more issue for metalocks And the WP for kills based on tiers would be thrown off, by cheap suit w/PRO weapon - A newbie is not getting that far ahead with just a gun.. being told he needs the suit to go with it would help imo And don't forget the 750k cap.. not too much effort to grind for a new suit Having the game recommend that you invest in a full gear upgrade is a fine idea. It would be nice if the game tried to teach people a little more than it does now. Trying to teach them via restricting their ability to innovate is not a good solution, though. As well, Metalocks will honestly never not be a bad idea. You don't want to end up with Destiny or MechWarrior Online where you can be waiting over 10 minutes just to get a match even though there are millions of people playing. With the small concurrent user count this game has, trying to split people up further based on the idea that that will somehow make every match balanced just isn't a good plan. Amidst the blue skies A link from past to future The sheltering wings of the protector
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 28	Posted - 2015.11.07 17:24:00 - [29] - Quote TheD1CK wrote: Indeed, but it causes more issue for metalocks And the WP for kills based on tiers would be thrown off, by cheap suit w/PRO weapon 'Cheap suit' and 'proto weapon' are mutually exclusive. You get barely any benefit from using a proto weapon over a standard one - literally just a 10% increase - but pay massively for the privilege. Making progression for newbies even more of a pain is hardly worth such a thing. What would it actually benefit? Is there some epidemic of people using desperately overpowered proto weapons on their ADV suits? Quote: - A newbie is not getting that far ahead with just a gun.. being told he needs the suit to go with it would help imo Exactly - nobody is getting particularly far ahead with just a gun. So why bother restricting them? Quote: And don't forget the 750k cap.. not too much effort to grind for a new suit "Just go and play another 50 matches." That's not even hyperbole. It takes 500k SP to go from level 1 to 3 dropsuits, and newbies are not likely to be earning more than 10k SP a match. If anything they're likely to be earning even less. It is absurd to demand a newbie play in excess of 50 matches just so they can use the weapon they already unlocked playing several other matches all for their very first progression upgrade. And all that, for unclear benefits that are at best minimal. Arkena Wyrnspire aka "British Khorne" - Cross Atu Kaze, you are best logi. Best. Logi.
TheD1CK Dead Man's Game 2	Posted - 2015.11.07 17:25:00 - [30] - Quote I never said split them up with metalocks. PRO fittings have no place in Public Battles.. The ability to use them should be removed. I've heard all the excuses.. I earned it blablablerp Bottom line. it ruins most battles for most players taking part in them. It's a damn casual gamemode.. yet it promotes full tryhard fittings, not at all healthy for good gameplay SOONtm



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