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TheD1CK Dead Man's Game 2	Posted - 2015.11.07 01:12:00 - [1] - Quote Despite the fact any time I bother, it's usually a invite for trolls and a early grave Hawkings grab a chair and a glass of water.. this may take a while A few changes that would increase gameplay quality for all modes + gamers Suit locks for weapons. - To use a PRO weapon, it could only be equipped on a PRO suit (not APEX) - Any weapon can be fit on a suit equal or above the weapons tier. (I have no issue on including modules here, though I am sure a few will) Meta locks for battles. All Public contracts lockout anything above ADV with the above lock in place ^^ (I'd really love a high risk gamemode added with this, where proto was expected + some added bonus) FW. The only change I'd make here is allowing platoons to deploy, easier access to fights this way. (I'd kill for a lobby based FW rather than the searches.. but I can dream) PC. Penalties to stacking districts - Increases to CP cost when using clones from a district on a stacked timer. - So I send clones from a 18:00 district while I have a second district at this timer. CP cost x2 (x3 for 3 districts etc.) - Bring back salvage to both teams, this way when outmatched you can at least earn some gear. This imo would be a much better foundation for good battles. feedback is welcome A sweet idea poached from LHughes and mixed with some thoughts I had.. - Fittings for each gamemode (along with metalock) - I've always wanted to be able to side scroll and have more than one list of fittings !! - Public (Metalocked) - FW (All) - PC (Uber tryhard). A big issue I have is having mostly PC fits, and not bothering to remake them for pubs as it would mean making the same fits often, so I pretty much proto scrub as often as anyone. (luckily I'm bad) Adding more fitting lists solve this. Metalocks get complained about as some fits dodge the higher numbers too easily, to counter this.. - CHANGE THE NUMBERS!! (Sentinel meta increase to make up for lack of slots leading to lower lvl) Now, these are just tweaks to make the game more enjoyable and accessible for all mercs.. here's the good part SOONtm
TheD1CK Dead Man's Game 2	Posted - 2015.11.07 01:12:00 - [2] - Quote Derping SOONtm
TheD1CK Dead Man's Game 2	Posted - 2015.11.07 01:38:00 - [3] - Quote lol.. when discussing this in-game earlier.. the one thing I was advised.. was to keep it simple The wall of text glaring at you on your screen had other ideas Archduke, do I at least get a cookie for effort.. or should I stick to ranting ?? SOONtm
TheD1CK Dead Man's Game 2	Posted - 2015.11.07 01:43:00 - [4] - Quote Radiant Pancake3 wrote: You should eat more tacos... Anyway on topic... Seems... special... Beer > Tacos SOONtm
TheD1CK Dead Man's Game 2	Posted - 2015.11.07 01:53:00 - [5] - Quote Radiant Pancake3 wrote: TheD1CK wrote: Radiant Pancake3 wrote: You should eat more tacos... Anyway on topic... Seems... special... Clearly it must be.. thanks for the reply. You're like a Blaziken Pancake ...I am no where near Blaziken... Don't even say that... let alone type it... I'd rather get impaled. Liking the post while adding nothing constructive sounds a lot like Blaziken.. are your sure you're not ?? Anyway... not going to completely derail my own post this time. Thanks for dropping by SOONtm
TheD1CK Dead Man's Game 2	Posted - 2015.11.07 14:06:00 - [6] - Quote Megaman Trigger wrote: If Public contracts were limited to ADV or lower, would APEX be made exempt from the lockout (being between STD and ADV) or would it be classed as PRO and limited to FW and PC despite being all STD equivalent gear? Would APEX get reclassed as non-PRO? I like the idea of more WP for killing tiers above your own. What would the WP reward be for killing Officer with Militia? Would Officer fits get even less WP for killing lower tier fits than PRO does to discourage Officer stomps? APEX should be what it is.. APEX.. having it be a duct tape proto suit is just lazy imo - So it would rank below ADV SOONtm
TheD1CK Dead Man's Game 2	Posted - 2015.11.07 14:16:00 - [7] - Quote JAKE REDBLOOD wrote: Is still think PC should go back got the old payouts as well, ie - losers get 0 isk, winners get is all The problem here is.. if CCP add too much reward for PC.. the circlejerks farm it (even without farming being an option, by sitting in stacked teams yhou can just farm actual people) We've seen how fast mercs chase the bandwagon for a paycheck, if payouts suck, blame them I'd be more open to.. - Increase winning payout % (we've been in 300 clone meatgrinders.. and paid 1.7mil.. wtf??) (And this is with good gear being used, not a good payout at all considering that's barely 1 mercs losses) - Both teams get salvage. (I know Rattati wanted lore blablablerp) But Rattati does not PC, and when you are against the odds with some guys murdering with Ghalags RR.. it is pretty nice to be able to kill the scrub and earn his weapon.. no salvage on losing side.. is just less reason to fight.. SOONtm
TheD1CK Dead Man's Game 2	Posted - 2015.11.07 17:03:00 - [8] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: TheD1CK wrote: *Suit locks for weapons.* - To use a PRO weapon, it could only be equipped on a PRO suit (not APEX) - Any weapon can be fit on a suit equal or above the weapons tier. I don't think I agree. When a newbie is looking to upgrade their first piece of kit, what is it normally? I imagine that in the vast majority of cases it's their weapon. So this newbie has gotten assault rifles 3. They've bought a shiny new GEK-38 and are eager to use it... Only to discover that they need a hefty chunk more SP before they can, despite having unlocked it I don't think fitting proto weapons on ADV suits is a problem. It's prohibitively expensive both in terms of ISK and fitting resources for a very minor benefit. Indeed, but it causes more issue for metalocks And the WP for kills based on tiers would be thrown off, by cheap suit w/PRO weapon - A newbie is not getting that far ahead with just a gun.. being told he needs the suit to go with it would help imo And don't forget the 750k cap.. not too much effort to grind for a new suit SOONtm
TheD1CK Dead Man's Game 2	Posted - 2015.11.07 17:25:00 - [9] - Quote I never said split them up with metalocks. PRO fittings have no place in Public Battles.. The ability to use them should be removed. I've heard all the excuses.. I earned it blablablerp Bottom line. it ruins most battles for most players taking part in them. It's a damn casual gamemode.. yet it promotes full tryhard fittings, not at all healthy for good gameplay SOONtm
TheD1CK Dead Man's Game 2	Posted - 2015.11.07 17:29:00 - [10] - Quote With the benefits these proposals would have for NPE.. I don't think it's asking too much for them to have to invest SP for better fittings. The advantage of proto on paper looks minimal, in-game it makes a much worse impact. SOONtm

TheD1CK Dead Man's Game 2	Posted - 2015.11.07 18:12:00 - [11] - Quote It's one aspect of the proposal.. I see your point However.. I strongly disagree with Proto not being an advantage The current state of the game is mostly Proto V MLT.. that is what I want to tackle 50 games.. you also gain passive SP, and daily missions to speed up that earning, I see your point.. it is a bit of a grind to get a suit to match the weapon.. but I think that should be encouraged.. for the most part an actual new player is wasting ISK if they are using above tier weapons on weaker suits, so I don't feel the impact of this is as bad as you think. SOONtm
TheD1CK Dead Man's Game 2	Posted - 2015.11.07 18:41:00 - [12] - Quote But if they are warned they need it before the weapon, they then upgrade the suit first. Increasing their fitting ability before gaining a weapon. Is it really that bad?? if so, leave that part out. But I do not think so. Dammit Arkena you know my forum skillz can't take you on, you scoundrel!! SOONtm
TheD1CK Dead Man's Game 3	Posted - 2015.11.08 11:19:00 - [13] - Quote Leaving out the Suit/Tier lock. Adjusting numbers for metalvls on certain items to equal the results of varied fittings - No splitting up the playerbase as there will NOT be two options ? Certain gamemodes having a set metalock is an option ? Removal of OFC/PRO gear in pubs is needed over a year ago With the mix of SP in teams it is practically cheating at times vs low SP mercs (GOD mode activated) I am well aware a merc can do as well in a low tier fit (even I did once) but better gear is tilting the odds in your favour In the damn casual modes. This is my grudge against CCP. The single worst decision they made was not balancing the use of gear durkadur SOONtm
TheD1CK Dead Man's Game 3	Posted - 2015.11.09 12:13:00 - [14] - Quote Fine!!! I submit. The Suit Tier lock is not going to work Even when I started being able to put an ADV weapon on basic suits can help I suppose. The main reason I included this and put it first, is because I think mixed tier fittings will be the biggest problem for metalocks. Especially if CCP go the way of staying below X metalvl for certain modes (as a basic suit w/proto weapon may bypass this) but I see the points made against it by Arkena and pastry.. and I don't have a counter argument that is within forum rules One dust tape fix (CCP love those) would be only making the tier lock for Proto Weapons. - Lore, derpaderpa, PRO weapons are so fabulous they can only operate on PRO suits Seeing as both of you used "help the newbro's by using ADV on cheaper fits" Is it still an issue if we restrict the use of Proto only to screw over the vets ??? SOONtm
TheD1CK Dead Man's Game 3	Posted - 2015.11.09 12:30:00 - [15] - Quote @ Vrain. I think an adjustment only to tier lock APEX+PRO would be fair. Why should the best of suits be fit with anything less than Proto And APEX.. is a damn cheap fit that with base skills and tweaked fittings is comparable to proto, locking out ADV+ would be nice (They are already the ultimate ISK grinding suits, allowing proto lvl adjustments is not good - lock to basic) Ideally a lock-out would apply to suits+guns+modules.. but agreeing on something would be a task. As for a fitting grid.. I am unsure what effects it would have. Personally I use -10 fittings at all times but tbh it's as reliable as the goat sacrifices. Only CCP could tell you. PC/FW. Many will have no opinion on this sadly as not all take part. full FW teams just makes kickstarting easier (the only way to play FW on EU timers) PC, if stacking timers affected CP costs, we would see some changes (for once) in the starmap as Corps would be unable to stack timers and make use of the clones for sales/attacks. With current activity.. having 10 districts is more than enough so if the players cannot see that and make the change, CCP may have to do it for them (spoon feed the fat kids in the sandbox) this entire gamemode is a waste in it's current state. Inb4 it doesn't work QQ (it's as laggy as any other mode at this stage) yes some games do get right down to unplayable.. but if there was more rotation of district holding, if you lagged out and lost one it's no real harm to your Corp. In the current setup, where small Corps have 1/2 districts, it is a kick in the nuts getting knocked out and starting again. So either by that change or another, something to counter land hording is needed imo. SOONtm
TheD1CK Dead Man's Game 3	Posted - 2015.11.09 16:30:00 - [16] - Quote Vrain Matari wrote: I agree mixed-tier fitting and a meta lock are a mess, and also that min-maxing meta by fitting PRO on lower tier suits would be a thing, prolly a big thing. Tbh, i'd be happy to see all pro locked out of pubs. Yup.. there is no justification for it. Sure there are a list of excuses for it But, nothing that justifies players ruining casual gamemodes with the best tiers of Suits/Weapons just for lolz SOONtm
TheD1CK Dead Man's Game 3	Posted - 2015.11.09 16:31:00 - [17] - Quote Postapo.. APEX is not a Proto suit.. that is just the duct tape label on them that we haven't bought enough AUR to get changed. SOONtm

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