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Mortedeamor
The Black Masquerade
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Posted - 2015.11.04 18:07:00 -
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was it meant to be an av suit?..so u can carry av and anti infantry toys?
was it mean to be a killer?
why do i only really see it used for av?
it doesnt seem to shine like the assaults do for slaying ...do you think it has to many drawbacks?
its slow
it hasa fat hitbox
average hp levels
low recovery
no grenade
all for what 2 light weapons witha innate 10% damage modifier
i dont think ive ever seen anyone slaughter witha commando at best whatever commando happens to have the swarm bonus atm can be found doing av....i rarely see a galmando plc...it doesnt have a grenade so i doubt its intended for av
..what is the point of these suit ?
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XxBlazikenxX
Ancient Exiles.
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Posted - 2015.11.04 18:11:00 -
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It is meant to be a slow tanky damage platform that is meant to be used with a squad as a force multiplier. It is meant to be versatile and ready for any situation presented.
What I want is for its role to be separated from the Assault, the two roles are too similar.
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XxBlazikenxX
Ancient Exiles.
Bleeding Sun Conglomerate
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Posted - 2015.11.04 18:12:00 -
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Mortedeamor wrote:was it meant to be an av suit?..so u can carry av and anti infantry toys?
was it mean to be a killer?
why do i only really see it used for av?
it doesnt seem to shine like the assaults do for slaying ...do you think it has to many drawbacks?
its slow
it hasa fat hitbox
average hp levels
low recovery
no grenade
all for what 2 light weapons witha innate 10% damage modifier
i dont think ive ever seen anyone slaughter witha commando at best whatever commando happens to have the swarm bonus atm can be found doing av....i rarely see a galmando plc...it doesnt have a grenade so i doubt its intended for av
..what is the point of these suit ?
On the slaying part, it is great when you are with your team, best I've ever done was on my Gal Commando alt and I went 45/12 while sticking with the team in a Dom.
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Mortedeamor
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Posted - 2015.11.04 18:12:00 -
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XxBlazikenxX wrote:It is meant to be a slow tanky damage platform that is meant to be used with a squad as a force multiplier. It is meant to be versatile and ready for any situation presented.
What I want is for its role to be separated from the Assault, the two roles are too similar.
oh its a suit that designed to not be viable alone...omg that explains everything ..well i know what this lone wolf is speccing out of
if its role is similar to the assault then it is the assaults ugly step sister because it performs like a piece of kitten
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Mortedeamor
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Posted - 2015.11.04 18:14:00 -
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XxBlazikenxX wrote:Mortedeamor wrote:was it meant to be an av suit?..so u can carry av and anti infantry toys?
was it mean to be a killer?
why do i only really see it used for av?
it doesnt seem to shine like the assaults do for slaying ...do you think it has to many drawbacks?
its slow
it hasa fat hitbox
average hp levels
low recovery
no grenade
all for what 2 light weapons witha innate 10% damage modifier
i dont think ive ever seen anyone slaughter witha commando at best whatever commando happens to have the swarm bonus atm can be found doing av....i rarely see a galmando plc...it doesnt have a grenade so i doubt its intended for av
..what is the point of these suit ? On the slaying part, it is great when you are with your team, best I've ever done was on my Gal Commando alt and I went 45/12 while sticking with the team in a Dom.
yeah but that nothing compared to what i can do ona assault alone with no squad
i think they need a buff
or to have their roles reworked
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Jackkkkkkkkkkkkkkky jack
Ancient Exiles.
Bleeding Sun Conglomerate
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Posted - 2015.11.04 18:14:00 -
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i think commando is the reason y plc exists...... cuz plc is just for fun..... battle with sidearm when putting plc on assault?! lol
just found cal assault op^^
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XxBlazikenxX
Ancient Exiles.
Bleeding Sun Conglomerate
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Posted - 2015.11.04 18:14:00 -
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Mortedeamor wrote:XxBlazikenxX wrote:It is meant to be a slow tanky damage platform that is meant to be used with a squad as a force multiplier. It is meant to be versatile and ready for any situation presented.
What I want is for its role to be separated from the Assault, the two roles are too similar. oh its a suit that designed to not be viable alone...omg that explains everything ..well i know what this lone wolf is speccing out of if its role is similar to the assault then it is the assaults ugly step sister because it performs like a piece of kitten
Assaults right now are OP in general and need a nerf.
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Mortedeamor
The Black Masquerade
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Posted - 2015.11.04 18:16:00 -
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XxBlazikenxX wrote:Mortedeamor wrote:XxBlazikenxX wrote:It is meant to be a slow tanky damage platform that is meant to be used with a squad as a force multiplier. It is meant to be versatile and ready for any situation presented.
What I want is for its role to be separated from the Assault, the two roles are too similar. oh its a suit that designed to not be viable alone...omg that explains everything ..well i know what this lone wolf is speccing out of if its role is similar to the assault then it is the assaults ugly step sister because it performs like a piece of kitten Assaults right now are OP in general and need a nerf.
nahhhhh they dont need a nerf i think they fulfill their role perfectly 
although i noticed heavies seem to be dead....
and commandos
so maybe ur right
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XxBlazikenxX
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Bleeding Sun Conglomerate
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Posted - 2015.11.04 18:18:00 -
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Mortedeamor wrote:XxBlazikenxX wrote:Mortedeamor wrote:XxBlazikenxX wrote:It is meant to be a slow tanky damage platform that is meant to be used with a squad as a force multiplier. It is meant to be versatile and ready for any situation presented.
What I want is for its role to be separated from the Assault, the two roles are too similar. oh its a suit that designed to not be viable alone...omg that explains everything ..well i know what this lone wolf is speccing out of if its role is similar to the assault then it is the assaults ugly step sister because it performs like a piece of kitten Assaults right now are OP in general and need a nerf. nahhhhh they dont need a nerf i think they fulfill their role perfectly
What really disturbs me is that Assaults, despite being a medium suit, can have more hp than a Commando, which is a heavy suit.
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Mortedeamor
The Black Masquerade
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Posted - 2015.11.04 18:19:00 -
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XxBlazikenxX wrote:Mortedeamor wrote:XxBlazikenxX wrote:Mortedeamor wrote:XxBlazikenxX wrote:It is meant to be a slow tanky damage platform that is meant to be used with a squad as a force multiplier. It is meant to be versatile and ready for any situation presented.
What I want is for its role to be separated from the Assault, the two roles are too similar. oh its a suit that designed to not be viable alone...omg that explains everything ..well i know what this lone wolf is speccing out of if its role is similar to the assault then it is the assaults ugly step sister because it performs like a piece of kitten Assaults right now are OP in general and need a nerf. nahhhhh they dont need a nerf i think they fulfill their role perfectly What really disturbs me is that Assaults, despite being a medium suit, can have more hp than a Commando, which is a heavy suit.
yes commandos have to pay the price of having a larger hit box i agree...
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Denesian Morenti
Horizons' Edge
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Posted - 2015.11.04 18:20:00 -
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Mortedeamor wrote:was it meant to be an av suit?..so u can carry av and anti infantry toys?
was it mean to be a killer?
why do i only really see it used for av?
it doesnt seem to shine like the assaults do for slaying ...do you think it has to many drawbacks?
its slow
it hasa fat hitbox
average hp levels
low recovery
no grenade
all for what 2 light weapons witha innate 10% damage modifier
i dont think ive ever seen anyone slaughter witha commando at best whatever commando happens to have the swarm bonus atm can be found doing av....i rarely see a galmando plc...it doesnt have a grenade so i doubt its intended for av
..what is the point of these suit ?
It really depends on which commando you are using and for what purpose. If you take into account the bonus of each, it will help you figure out how to use each commando. I never use a commando for slaying only, with the exception being the Min commando. That one works well for holding down objectives, especially if it's indoors. All other commandos should be used for multi-purpose roles. For example:
Galmando - AR + Plasma Cannon (great for tanks and LAV's)
Calmando - RR + Swarms (you can use this for sniping too since it's damage applies to that)
Minmando - CR + Mass Driver
Amarmando - (kind of useless now with the heat buildup) SR or ASR + Laser
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Mortedeamor
The Black Masquerade
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Posted - 2015.11.04 18:21:00 -
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Denesian Morenti wrote:Mortedeamor wrote:was it meant to be an av suit?..so u can carry av and anti infantry toys?
was it mean to be a killer?
why do i only really see it used for av?
it doesnt seem to shine like the assaults do for slaying ...do you think it has to many drawbacks?
its slow
it hasa fat hitbox
average hp levels
low recovery
no grenade
all for what 2 light weapons witha innate 10% damage modifier
i dont think ive ever seen anyone slaughter witha commando at best whatever commando happens to have the swarm bonus atm can be found doing av....i rarely see a galmando plc...it doesnt have a grenade so i doubt its intended for av
..what is the point of these suit ? It really depends on which commando you are using and for what purpose. If you take into account the bonus of each, it will help you figure out how to use each commando. I never use a commando for slaying only, with the exception being the Min commando. That one works well for holding down objectives, especially if it's indoors. All other commandos should be used for multi-purpose roles. For example: Galmando - AR + Plasma Cannon (great for tanks and LAV's) Calmando - RR + Swarms (you can use this for sniping too since it's damage applies to that) Minmando - CR + Mass Driver Amarmando - (kind of useless now with the heat buildup) SR or ASR + Laser
so its an av suit? then why cant we give it a grenade slot?
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Denesian Morenti
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Posted - 2015.11.04 18:25:00 -
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Mortedeamor wrote:Denesian Morenti wrote:Mortedeamor wrote:was it meant to be an av suit?..so u can carry av and anti infantry toys?
was it mean to be a killer?
why do i only really see it used for av?
it doesnt seem to shine like the assaults do for slaying ...do you think it has to many drawbacks?
its slow
it hasa fat hitbox
average hp levels
low recovery
no grenade
all for what 2 light weapons witha innate 10% damage modifier
i dont think ive ever seen anyone slaughter witha commando at best whatever commando happens to have the swarm bonus atm can be found doing av....i rarely see a galmando plc...it doesnt have a grenade so i doubt its intended for av
..what is the point of these suit ? It really depends on which commando you are using and for what purpose. If you take into account the bonus of each, it will help you figure out how to use each commando. I never use a commando for slaying only, with the exception being the Min commando. That one works well for holding down objectives, especially if it's indoors. All other commandos should be used for multi-purpose roles. For example: Galmando - AR + Plasma Cannon (great for tanks and LAV's) Calmando - RR + Swarms (you can use this for sniping too since it's damage applies to that) Minmando - CR + Mass Driver Amarmando - (kind of useless now with the heat buildup) SR or ASR + Laser so its an av suit? then why cant we give it a grenade slot?
Preaching to the choir my friend.
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XxBlazikenxX
Ancient Exiles.
Bleeding Sun Conglomerate
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Posted - 2015.11.04 18:26:00 -
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Denesian Morenti wrote:Mortedeamor wrote:was it meant to be an av suit?..so u can carry av and anti infantry toys?
was it mean to be a killer?
why do i only really see it used for av?
it doesnt seem to shine like the assaults do for slaying ...do you think it has to many drawbacks?
its slow
it hasa fat hitbox
average hp levels
low recovery
no grenade
all for what 2 light weapons witha innate 10% damage modifier
i dont think ive ever seen anyone slaughter witha commando at best whatever commando happens to have the swarm bonus atm can be found doing av....i rarely see a galmando plc...it doesnt have a grenade so i doubt its intended for av
..what is the point of these suit ? Amarmando - (kind of useless now with the heat buildup) SR or ASR + Laser
That would be fixed with this proposal
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XxBlazikenxX
Ancient Exiles.
Bleeding Sun Conglomerate
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Posted - 2015.11.04 18:29:00 -
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Mortedeamor wrote:Denesian Morenti wrote:Mortedeamor wrote:was it meant to be an av suit?..so u can carry av and anti infantry toys?
was it mean to be a killer?
why do i only really see it used for av?
it doesnt seem to shine like the assaults do for slaying ...do you think it has to many drawbacks?
its slow
it hasa fat hitbox
average hp levels
low recovery
no grenade
all for what 2 light weapons witha innate 10% damage modifier
i dont think ive ever seen anyone slaughter witha commando at best whatever commando happens to have the swarm bonus atm can be found doing av....i rarely see a galmando plc...it doesnt have a grenade so i doubt its intended for av
..what is the point of these suit ? It really depends on which commando you are using and for what purpose. If you take into account the bonus of each, it will help you figure out how to use each commando. I never use a commando for slaying only, with the exception being the Min commando. That one works well for holding down objectives, especially if it's indoors. All other commandos should be used for multi-purpose roles. For example: Galmando - AR + Plasma Cannon (great for tanks and LAV's) Calmando - RR + Swarms (you can use this for sniping too since it's damage applies to that) Minmando - CR + Mass Driver Amarmando - (kind of useless now with the heat buildup) SR or ASR + Laser so its an av suit? then why cant we give it a grenade slot?
With its current PG/CPU? It won't even be able to fit a grenade even if it had that slot.
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DeathwindRising
Titans of Phoenix
Damage LLC
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Posted - 2015.11.04 18:30:00 -
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Mortedeamor wrote:XxBlazikenxX wrote:It is meant to be a slow tanky damage platform that is meant to be used with a squad as a force multiplier. It is meant to be versatile and ready for any situation presented.
What I want is for its role to be separated from the Assault, the two roles are too similar. oh its a suit that designed to not be viable alone...omg that explains everything ..well i know what this lone wolf is speccing out of if its role is similar to the assault then it is the assaults ugly step sister because it performs like a piece of kitten
caldari commando is great when alone. you can snipe and carry ARR.
all commandos suffer from lower mobility, which keeps them from being good slayers. however if you are attacking a static position where the enemy more or less isnt going to be too mobile, a commando lets you simply kill targets outright faster. the two commandos that should be looked at are the gal and amarr.
if i could change the commandos, id add an additional weapon slot. i like them having the ability to handle any situation with a weapon, and i think a third light weapon would help them with that. |
XxBlazikenxX
Ancient Exiles.
Bleeding Sun Conglomerate
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Posted - 2015.11.04 18:31:00 -
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DeathwindRising wrote:Mortedeamor wrote:XxBlazikenxX wrote:It is meant to be a slow tanky damage platform that is meant to be used with a squad as a force multiplier. It is meant to be versatile and ready for any situation presented.
What I want is for its role to be separated from the Assault, the two roles are too similar. oh its a suit that designed to not be viable alone...omg that explains everything ..well i know what this lone wolf is speccing out of if its role is similar to the assault then it is the assaults ugly step sister because it performs like a piece of kitten caldari commando is great when alone. you can snipe and carry ARR. all commandos suffer from lower mobility, which keeps them from being good slayers. however if you are attacking a static position where the enemy more or less isnt going to be too mobile, a commando lets you simply kill targets outright faster. the two commandos that should be looked at are the gal and amarr. if i could change the commandos, id add an additional weapon slot. i like them having the ability to handle any situation with a weapon, and i think a third light weapon would help them with that.
Again, what is the purpose of a third light weapon if it can't even use it because of its current PG/CPU?
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shaman oga
Dead Man's Game
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Posted - 2015.11.04 18:35:00 -
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Camping
Regressed to blueberry level.
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XxBlazikenxX
Ancient Exiles.
Bleeding Sun Conglomerate
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Posted - 2015.11.04 18:37:00 -
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Maybe if you are a sniper or laser rifle commando.
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Mortedeamor
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Posted - 2015.11.04 18:38:00 -
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XxBlazikenxX wrote:Maybe if you are a sniper or laser rifle commando.
lols laser rifle commando...ive never been killed by one
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Posted - 2015.11.04 18:43:00 -
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XxBlazikenxX wrote:Maybe if you are a sniper or laser rifle commando.
Camping doesn't always mean stay far away, minmando can camp with a MD, galmando can wait behind corners with a shotgun (and get rekt)
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IR Scifi
OSG Planetary Operations
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Posted - 2015.11.04 18:53:00 -
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I've always envisioned heavies and commandos as two sides of the same coin. Both are minor forces of nature, one offensive (mando, high offense, moderate defense) and the other defensive (heavy, moderate offense, high defense). Obviously forge guns and shotguns kind of throw this off but the general idea could hold.
So if you want to hold a point and just not go down without a fight you use a heavy. If you want to storm in and unleash the wrath of the gods you go mando. |
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Mikramurka Shock Troop
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2015.11.04 18:53:00 -
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Denesian Morenti wrote:Mortedeamor wrote:was it meant to be an av suit?..so u can carry av and anti infantry toys?
was it mean to be a killer?
why do i only really see it used for av?
it doesnt seem to shine like the assaults do for slaying ...do you think it has to many drawbacks?
its slow
it hasa fat hitbox
average hp levels
low recovery
no grenade
all for what 2 light weapons witha innate 10% damage modifier
i dont think ive ever seen anyone slaughter witha commando at best whatever commando happens to have the swarm bonus atm can be found doing av....i rarely see a galmando plc...it doesnt have a grenade so i doubt its intended for av
..what is the point of these suit ? It really depends on which commando you are using and for what purpose. If you take into account the bonus of each, it will help you figure out how to use each commando. I never use a commando for slaying only, with the exception being the Min commando. That one works well for holding down objectives, especially if it's indoors. All other commandos should be used for multi-purpose roles. For example: Galmando - AR + Plasma Cannon (great for tanks and LAV's) Calmando - RR + Swarms (you can use this for sniping too since it's damage applies to that) Minmando - CR + Mass Driver Amarmando - (kind of useless now with the heat buildup) SR or ASR + Laser
Agree completely about the minmando with CR + MD being solid for point defense, especially indoors where splash off walls can work it's magic. I've found it's a good match for multiple heavies, so long as you're not defending the point alone.
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Georgia Xavier
Incorruptibles
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Posted - 2015.11.04 18:59:00 -
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IR Scifi wrote:I've always envisioned heavies and commandos as two sides of the same coin. Both are minor forces of nature, one offensive (mando, high offense, moderate defense) and the other defensive (heavy, moderate offense, high defense). Obviously forge guns and shotguns kind of throw this off but the general idea could hold.
So if you want to hold a point and just not go down without a fight you use a heavy. If you want to storm in and unleash the wrath of the gods you go mando.
thats all well and good but man what the commando can do, the assault does better minus a second light weapon
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Posted - 2015.11.04 19:08:00 -
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I run commando so let me start by saying iii think they could use a buff specifically to fitting resources(I would also like.some ewar buff or a slot increase but that's probably a pipe dream) that said I think the description given is apt: its a suppression fighter. The free DMg bonus makes getting shot by them much less plesent than any other suit, and the reload speed buff means you will be taking shorter breaks from firing. It's also a very flexible suit (sort of a jack of all trades) think about the variety of ranges you can cover with two light weapons. My favorite example is my "buccaneer" suit its a galmando with tank and DMg mods wielding a shotgun and a breach assault rifle. Bar is pretty effective at long ranges, but the shotgun(who's range has also been extended due to DMg mods) makes him a beast in cqc. Certainly ruined my fair share of scouts' days. Or my "av" suit the Thor: a plc and assault rifle lets me remain flexible at close to medium range, scare off vehicles, and snipe with the plc. Or if you want a suppression suit just use dual rifles. Unimaginative, but effective. I used to also run biotics alot on them, and that tactic can be very effective especially on minmatar.
Anyway to directly answer your question the commandos role is whatever you want it to be.
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IR Scifi
OSG Planetary Operations
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Posted - 2015.11.04 20:30:00 -
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Georgia Xavier wrote:IR Scifi wrote:I've always envisioned heavies and commandos as two sides of the same coin. Both are minor forces of nature, one offensive (mando, high offense, moderate defense) and the other defensive (heavy, moderate offense, high defense). Obviously forge guns and shotguns kind of throw this off but the general idea could hold.
So if you want to hold a point and just not go down without a fight you use a heavy. If you want to storm in and unleash the wrath of the gods you go mando. thats all well and good but man what the commando can do, the assault does better minus a second light weapon
Didn't say that's how it's working now, just how I see the intent of their two roles. Because when is the last time that anyone said "oh crap it's a mando, run!"? |
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Ancient Exiles.
Bleeding Sun Conglomerate
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Posted - 2015.11.04 20:31:00 -
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Mortedeamor wrote:XxBlazikenxX wrote:Maybe if you are a sniper or laser rifle commando. lols laser rifle commando...ive never been killed by one
You've obviously never been in a match with me then
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Mortedeamor
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Posted - 2015.11.04 20:33:00 -
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XxBlazikenxX wrote:Mortedeamor wrote:XxBlazikenxX wrote:Maybe if you are a sniper or laser rifle commando. lols laser rifle commando...ive never been killed by one You've obviously never been in a match with me then
squad up? im rolling ina squad of third rock none of them speak english
and even if i were which im sure i have been ..you didnt kill me no one kills me witha lr unless they are ona amar assault usually they are running a victors and im throwing a mlt lr at them...idc if i lose 2 free suits to kill your officer with my mlt
the only people i recall ever killing me outright ina duel ever was lucky ireland ...and i forgot the other dudes name but they are solid with it and sometimes i die
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Mortedeamor
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Posted - 2015.11.04 20:42:00 -
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Mortedeamor wrote:XxBlazikenxX wrote:Mortedeamor wrote:XxBlazikenxX wrote:Maybe if you are a sniper or laser rifle commando. lols laser rifle commando...ive never been killed by one You've obviously never been in a match with me then squad up? im rolling ina squad of third rock none of them speak english and even if i were which im sure i have been ..you didnt kill me no one kills me witha lr unless they are ona amar assault usually they are running a victors and im throwing a mlt lr at them...idc if i lose 2 free suits to kill your officer with my mlt the only people i recall ever killing me outright ina duel ever was lucky ireland ...and i forgot the other dudes name but they are solid with it and sometimes i die
have we ever even squaded lol
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Posted - 2015.11.04 21:02:00 -
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The beauty of the Commando (in spite of all its drawbacks) is it's unparalleled versatility -- They can be fitted out for any situation you can imagine...
Besides, once you get used to using two primaries, it's difficult to go back... |
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