They wouldn't understand what I am talking about anyway.

Both new tanks have less overall CPU/PG for some reason? Balance it out with their "brothers" AM - GA / MN - CA.

Minmatar have too long shield delays for hit-and-run, proposal; 5 sec recharge delay - 10 sec depleted delay.

For turrets use Minmatar AutoCannon and Amarr Heavy Laser Beam. Amarr are ranged, Minmatar are CQC hit-and-run like you said.

I see a bright future in these tanks' lives, but will they be new hull designs or reskins of existing models?

Baby Steps

will they be new hull designs or reskins of existing models?

I have a massive spreadsheet for this actually...

however, the stats are based on an assumption of re-doing how vehicles work at a fundamental level. Breakin' might still have access to it...but I'll redo one with current statistics to allow for generation of statistics

I would greatly appreciate it, Thaddeus.

I told you he had a spreadsheet!


I'd be really interested to heard what the CPM is thinking about doing for the new HAV mobility stats and whether or not those and being based of existing turret types, with bonuses in mind, etc.

No bonuses right now as far as I know and I'd like the get Turrets in too but that's more of a second thought right now sadly.

You got a Skype Kirk? I'm modifying a copy of one of my other vehicle spreadsheets, but would need some of your input so I know exactly what you do and don't need

Search for jadkirk pic should be me eating a Watermelon.

What's up you pale, lifeless clones.

I've got a problem. I need help with numbers for an Amarr and Minmatar tank.


I know for a fact that some of the members of the community have put more thought into than I have so if you have better numbers, have input or concerns about the linked Excel Spreadsheet please post it.


Let's keep this constructive because this very well may benefit all of us.

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https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1CchE0ob-HpAtxOxHna218OTiUkvwdl3QTVOa6mAeKHw/edit#gid=0

Right now it's easy to read plain and simple. I don't like clutter.

Tell me what you think about this and I also need some help with the CPU of the Amarr tank.

The formula I used to make these stats included taking the difference between the Assault (because of the same slot layout) classes both within the race and compared to each other to make the base line stats then I took the weight of each module of the fittings that would likely go on the tank and adjusted it from there.

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Minmatar HAV:
What I had in mind for the Minmatar HAV is an adaptive hit and run type HAV that fits with the adaptive Minmatar philosophy of balancing Shield and armor with Speed. That being said, the Minmatar HAV has an unusual trait of having the ideal slot layout for a shield tank but less shield HP than armor. You could also choose to "Glass cannon the fit" and armor tank it because it sports an initial 1935 armor to play around with.


Amarr HAV: Need the most help with this one.
There's not much to say about this one. It's going to be a behemoth when it comes to soaking up damage. Even so much so that I don't want to add the Amarr tank into the game until we've looked at Hardeners but rest assured. The Amarr HAV will be a force to rekon with one way or the other.

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Pipedream section.

If we were to have Minmatar Artillery and AutoCannon turrets as well as Amarr Beam and Pulse Laser turrets what stats do you imagine having them as?

In addition to that if you only had to choose one turret for each of the two listed races which one would you prefer?

How about when blaster overheats for the amar it does damage to the vehicle

What benefit does the Amarr HAV gain for that set back?