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Mobius Wyvern
Fatal Absolution Bleeding Sun Conglomerate
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Posted - 2015.10.20 12:39:00 -
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Thaddeus Reynolds wrote:can't and probably won't be able to...why are people so opposed to it being on both PC and PS4? Controls. As I've said in many other threads, mouse/keyboard destroys controllers without contest. The only way to balance them would be to not allow raw mouse input, and give controllers heavy aim assist, both of which would drive the PC players out anyway.
Unfortunately the game has to be on one or the other.
That said, I intend to upgrade to a PS4 next year even though I already have a desktop that could easily run the game. I support CCP's original vision of console gamers (Dust 514) and PC gamers (EVE Online) working together for mutual benefit.
Amidst the blue skies
A link from past to future
The sheltering wings of the protector
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Corvo Wolfear
Academy Inferno E-R-A
267
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Posted - 2015.10.20 12:41:00 -
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Why we still here? Just to suffer? X
Lags are my shield, aim assist is my sword.
Main Hellsatano's sinner.
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Ripley Riley
Incorruptibles
12
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Posted - 2015.10.20 12:42:00 -
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Mobius Wyvern wrote:Controls. As I've said in many other threads, mouse/keyboard destroys controllers without contest. The only way to balance them would be to not allow raw mouse input, and give controllers heavy aim assist, both of which would drive the PC players out anyway. So Dust should cater to the lowest common denominator?
And if we separate the PC and PS4 players' matches, what then? Other multi-platform games like Warframe have separate servers for each community.
"I get to fist tanks in butt" - Jadek Menaheim
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Sequal's Back
Dead Man's Game
1
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Posted - 2015.10.20 13:05:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:Mobius Wyvern wrote:Controls. As I've said in many other threads, mouse/keyboard destroys controllers without contest. The only way to balance them would be to not allow raw mouse input, and give controllers heavy aim assist, both of which would drive the PC players out anyway. So Dust should cater to the lowest common denominator? And if we separate the PC and PS4 players' matches, what then? Other multi-platform games like Warframe have separate servers for each community. That would be nice but would need a much bigger team behind Dust.
I bet you anything that the game would work better on PS4 than on PC tho. It is much more interesting for CCP to go on PS4 than PC, and economic reasons are by far the most important one (for a company).
Bring your daughter... TO THE SLAUGHTER !
- Sequal Rise
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Take Off Hoser
Ancient Exiles. Bleeding Sun Conglomerate
34
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Posted - 2015.10.20 13:06:00 -
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X Since Day 1 |
gekko k
Grundstein Automation Property of Negative-Impact
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Posted - 2015.10.20 13:43:00 -
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ps4 x2 by Christmas. |
Ripley Riley
Incorruptibles
12
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Posted - 2015.10.20 13:51:00 -
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Sequal's Back wrote:I bet you anything that the game would work better on PS4 than on PC tho. It is much more interesting for CCP to go on PS4 than PC, and economic reasons are by far the most important one (for a company). "Work better on PS4"? What precisely does that mean? I mean, in my gaming experience console games typically boasted longer loading times and more gamebreaking bugs*. My PC games have boasted higher FPS as well.
And what does "more interesting" mean? You are reaching, Sequal We're adults here. Just say, "I have a personal preference for PS4." You don't have to create nonsense buzzwords.
*: Except for Nintendo games/systems.
"I get to fist tanks in butt" - Jadek Menaheim
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Mobius Wyvern
Fatal Absolution Bleeding Sun Conglomerate
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Posted - 2015.10.20 13:59:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:Sequal's Back wrote:I bet you anything that the game would work better on PS4 than on PC tho. It is much more interesting for CCP to go on PS4 than PC, and economic reasons are by far the most important one (for a company). "Work better on PS4"? What precisely does that mean? I mean, in my gaming experience console games typically boasted longer loading times and more gamebreaking bugs*. My PC games have boasted higher FPS as well. And what does "more interesting" mean? You are reaching, Sequal We're adults here. Just say, "I have a personal preference for PS4." You don't have to create nonsense buzzwords. *: Except for Nintendo games/systems. Your gaming experience sounds like it was tainted by recent console releases that have been half-finished rush jobs pushed into the market to meet deadlines that were too early to begin with.
I've been gaming on consoles and PC for a long time, and I remember when console games were far more stable and I only encountered bugs on PC.
The fact is that if you do the job right you get stable software regardless of platform. That being said, however, you also can't deny that many bugs arise from the wide variation of hardware that PCs represent, whereas a console is a single un-changing hardware set to program for with no issues of OS-related driver errors, draw-calls getting backed up in CPU bottlenecks, or any of the other myriad issues that most of us who grew up on PCs take for granted, but more and more people don't want to waste time on.
I'll always come back to CCP's original vision of a console game that brought the two sides of the "platform war" together, though. I think that's important, and that we shouldn't all give up on it just because it hit a major setback.
Ripley Riley wrote:So Dust should cater to the lowest common denominator? And if we separate the PC and PS4 players' matches, what then? Other multi-platform games like Warframe have separate servers for each community. You're going to write off this entire community as the "lowest common denominator"?
You're better than that. I know you are.
You also know as well as I do that launching the game on both PC and PS4 and then separating the communities goes counter to everything that New Eden represents and would destroy the game as a whole, not to mention the backlash from EVE players who won't want two separate games having influence on their single-shard universe.
Amidst the blue skies
A link from past to future
The sheltering wings of the protector
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DozersMouse XIII
Fatal Absolution Bleeding Sun Conglomerate
1
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Posted - 2015.10.20 14:46:00 -
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addicted to the Kubo's GMK-16 banana cannon
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Jammer Jalapeno
Pikey Bastards
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Posted - 2015.10.20 19:51:00 -
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Bought one for Jam's birthday last year....hardly plays with it Game suggestions anyone?
MmMmMm Glitter
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Gaius Calinus
Incarnation Soldiers
37
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Posted - 2015.10.20 19:56:00 -
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Hail Caldari !!
Hail to the Caldari State !!!
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luckyireland
Mcalpines Fusiliers
11
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Posted - 2015.10.20 21:04:00 -
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I'm happy go lucky
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Devadander
Woodgrain Atari
903
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Posted - 2015.10.21 01:57:00 -
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55 ish, bigger than most corps lel
Gêå You want a toe? I can get you a toe dude. Gêå
Joined - 06-28-12 ~Deal with it~
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IMMORTAL WAR HERO
NECROM0NGERS
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Posted - 2015.10.21 02:40:00 -
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Devadander wrote:As a supplement to the #portdust514 movement, I'd like to start a count of people with ps4 already.
Putting it on pc ruins the dream they started, so please keep pc master race bs out of here.
So without further ado.
X up if you own a ps4. Or will by Christmas.
55-ish so far with more buying soonGäó and a few "will if dust ports" not bad. I'd like to see the count break 100.
x before they were mass released to the public
Object of war is not2 die 4ur country murder bastard 4 his
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Forever ETC
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
1
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Posted - 2015.10.21 03:06:00 -
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Jammer Jalapeno wrote:X Bought one for Jam's birthday last year....hardly plays with it Game suggestions anyone? Upcoming- Horizon Zero Down The Last Guardian No Man's Sky Fallout 4 Uncharted 4 Persona 5
Current- Rocket League Until Dawn Infamous Second Son Metal Gear Solid Phantom Pain Bloodborn Driveclub Warframe The Order 1886
Those are just off the top of my head, there are plenty of interesting indies coming out weekly. 2016 is gonna be the year of PS4 Exclusives so tell your man to keep a lookout.
AmarrFTW
"The Hero got his feelings hurt for 9 hp... "
Not For Sale- Sanders 2016
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castba
Penguin's March
964
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Posted - 2015.10.21 03:58:00 -
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Bah, put it on the Nintendo NX. Being the first "Mature" themed addictive FPS on a Nintendo console can only net you a loyal customer base... especially if it ends up being as potentially awesome as the rumours are eluding to.
"When everything is OP, nothing is" - CCP Ratatti
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Sequal's Back
Dead Man's Game
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Posted - 2015.10.21 06:26:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:Sequal's Back wrote:I bet you anything that the game would work better on PS4 than on PC tho. It is much more interesting for CCP to go on PS4 than PC, and economic reasons are by far the most important one (for a company). "Work better on PS4"? What precisely does that mean? I mean, in my gaming experience console games typically boasted longer loading times and more gamebreaking bugs*. My PC games have boasted higher FPS as well. And what does "more interesting" mean? You are reaching, Sequal We're adults here. Just say, "I have a personal preference for PS4." You don't have to create nonsense buzzwords. *: Except for Nintendo games/systems. That's the way we (french people) say that in an economic way, a product would profit to a company. That's what I meant by "works better", in terms of profit not performances^^ So CCP would earn more money out of dust by porting it to ps4 than pc, which is more profitable for them (and that's what I meant by " interesting" !).
Sorry if you misunderstood me, I have less problems speaking in french I swear! XD
Bring your daughter... TO THE SLAUGHTER !
- Sequal Rise
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Amendus Decimus
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
2
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Posted - 2015.10.21 09:37:00 -
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But cant they port the game and let people from ps3 and ps4 play on the same servers? The ps4 version will run on an emulator amd when they are ready to go to ps4 quality they can always re-release on ps4 (and or pc).
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Devadander
Woodgrain Atari
904
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Posted - 2015.10.21 11:22:00 -
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I do enjoy the rhetoric, but all I'm really looking for is x's if you own a ps4, or will soon.
Almost 60 so far.
Gêå You want a toe? I can get you a toe dude. Gêå
Joined - 06-28-12 ~Deal with it~
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Sned TheDead
Failures inc.
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Posted - 2015.10.21 11:25:00 -
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x, and I just wish they had a way to do it
MUSIC!
Sned T. Dead
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Maitue Mae
Vader's-Fist
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Posted - 2015.10.21 13:23:00 -
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My Boots yearn to crush clones brought to my feet from my Rifle. Tell me where to go to fulfill their request.
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xXcythe
Commando Perkone Caldari State
24
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Posted - 2015.10.21 13:36:00 -
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CCP ain't solely responisble for killing Dust....the assholes who exploit the mechanics of the game did their part also.
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Banjo Robertson
Random Gunz Rise Of Legion.
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Posted - 2015.10.21 14:02:00 -
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dont have ps4, wont get one at least until the first price drop. usually just play things on my pc. not sayin one is better than the other, i can just do tons more non-gaming stuff on my pc than you can do on a consol, and play games. |
Alcina Nektaria
KILL-EM-QUICK Rise Of Legion.
399
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Posted - 2015.10.22 13:11:00 -
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Banjo Robertson wrote:dont have ps4, wont get one at least until the first price drop. usually just play things on my pc. not sayin one is better than the other, i can just do tons more non-gaming stuff on my pc than you can do on a consol, and play games. Lucky for you the first price drop happened last week.
KEQ and ROFL. Diplomat.
D4GG3R is my mom.
Only REAL pancakes wear dresses.GÖÑ
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Chosokabe Ite
Shields Of The State
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Posted - 2015.10.22 13:51:00 -
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Seeing that my PC is fried and that I would have to scour all 20 acers of my little farm property with a metal detector to find half the gold required to buy what qualifies as a gaming PC...I would have to go with PS4 since it's my only gaming machine I have that works. My wallet would agree.
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Ripley Riley
Incorruptibles
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Posted - 2015.10.22 14:04:00 -
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Chosokabe Ite wrote:half the gold required to buy what qualifies as a gaming PC Your estimations of what a gaming PC costs are off; $500 USD would buy you a rig more than capable of playing PC games in 2015.
"I get to fist tanks in butt" - Jadek Menaheim
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Mobius Wyvern
Fatal Absolution Bleeding Sun Conglomerate
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Posted - 2015.10.23 11:43:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:Chosokabe Ite wrote:half the gold required to buy what qualifies as a gaming PC Your estimations of what a gaming PC costs are off; $500 USD would buy you a rig more than capable of playing PC games in 2015. Yeah, at Low settings on pretty much everything.
This one I just built was $920 and there's some games I can't run above Medium if I want to maintain 60 fps.
Amidst the blue skies
A link from past to future
The sheltering wings of the protector
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Shaun Iwairo
DUST University Ivy League
293
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Posted - 2015.10.23 11:47:00 -
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Mobius Wyvern wrote:Ripley Riley wrote:Chosokabe Ite wrote:half the gold required to buy what qualifies as a gaming PC Your estimations of what a gaming PC costs are off; $500 USD would buy you a rig more than capable of playing PC games in 2015. Yeah, at Low settings on pretty much everything. This one I just built was $920 and there's some games I can't run above Medium if I want to maintain 60 fps.
Don't wanna turn this into a PC vs Console thing, but if you spent $920 on a PC and it can only do 60fps at Medium, you done effed up. Got a pcpp list I can have a gander at?
Something is killing new player retention.
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Devadander
Woodgrain Atari
916
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Posted - 2015.10.23 12:18:00 -
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Shaun Iwairo wrote:Mobius Wyvern wrote:Ripley Riley wrote:Chosokabe Ite wrote:half the gold required to buy what qualifies as a gaming PC Your estimations of what a gaming PC costs are off; $500 USD would buy you a rig more than capable of playing PC games in 2015. Yeah, at Low settings on pretty much everything. This one I just built was $920 and there's some games I can't run above Medium if I want to maintain 60 fps. Don't wanna turn this into a PC vs Console thing, but if you spent $920 on a PC and it can only do 60fps at Medium, you done effed up. Got a pcpp list I can have a gander at? EDIT: Here is a build with an i5 quad core 3.3ghz, Radeon R9 290x 4GB, SSD + HDD & 8GB RAM for $620. That should have no problems running games on High@60fps. Benchmark for that system.
Then don't.
I don't care about prices, or opinions.
This is strictly a ps4 owner headcount. Discuss that stuff in another thread please.
Gêå You want a toe? I can get you a toe dude. Gêå
Joined - 06-28-12 ~Deal with it~
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Twelve Guage
Random Gunz Rise Of Legion.
1
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Posted - 2015.10.23 12:21:00 -
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x for ps4
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