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Summa Militum
Abstract Requiem
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Posted - 2015.10.20 17:52:00 -
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The Sloth Overlord wrote:When you get your way, and squads are removed from public contracts, I too will be removed... removing the game from my ps3 that is. This game is only fun when you have a friend ( an actual friend, not just some guy in your squad.), and F.W. is no place for casual players, plus you can't get enough loyalty points to sustain the use of a suit.
Why should I be punished for the actions of proto stompers?
What are your thoughts on if squads were removed from Domination, Ambush, and Acquisition but squads were still allowed in Skirmish matches? |
Mobius Wyvern
Fatal Absolution Bleeding Sun Conglomerate
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Posted - 2015.10.20 17:59:00 -
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Summa Militum wrote:The Sloth Overlord wrote:When you get your way, and squads are removed from public contracts, I too will be removed... removing the game from my ps3 that is. This game is only fun when you have a friend ( an actual friend, not just some guy in your squad.), and F.W. is no place for casual players, plus you can't get enough loyalty points to sustain the use of a suit.
Why should I be punished for the actions of proto stompers? What are your thoughts on if squads were removed from Domination, Ambush, and Acquisition but squads were still allowed in Skirmish matches? Why are we considering penalizing people who like to play together?
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The Sloth Overlord
Intergalactic 4Chan Black Market
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Posted - 2015.10.20 18:01:00 -
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Summa Militum wrote:The Sloth Overlord wrote:When you get your way, and squads are removed from public contracts, I too will be removed... removing the game from my ps3 that is. This game is only fun when you have a friend ( an actual friend, not just some guy in your squad.), and F.W. is no place for casual players, plus you can't get enough loyalty points to sustain the use of a suit.
Why should I be punished for the actions of proto stompers? What are your thoughts on if squads were removed from Domination, Ambush, and Acquisition but squads were still allowed in Skirmish matches? Skirmish is really the only one I enjoy, but if it was the only pub with squads, it would feel a little strange and much more strange to new players. Plus if skirmish was the only one with squads, the protostompers would q sync in mass, and ruin the game mode for everyone. |
Summa Militum
Abstract Requiem
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Posted - 2015.10.20 18:19:00 -
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Mobius Wyvern wrote:Summa Militum wrote:The Sloth Overlord wrote:When you get your way, and squads are removed from public contracts, I too will be removed... removing the game from my ps3 that is. This game is only fun when you have a friend ( an actual friend, not just some guy in your squad.), and F.W. is no place for casual players, plus you can't get enough loyalty points to sustain the use of a suit.
Why should I be punished for the actions of proto stompers? What are your thoughts on if squads were removed from Domination, Ambush, and Acquisition but squads were still allowed in Skirmish matches? Why are we considering penalizing people who like to play together?
Because there are people who are deliberately ruining NPE for their own "sh!ts-n-giggles". Something needs to be done to help new players out and to allow those casual players to actually play casually.
I'm compromising by saying that I feel squads should be removed from at least two of the gamemodes. |
Summa Militum
Abstract Requiem
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Posted - 2015.10.20 18:21:00 -
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The Sloth Overlord wrote:Summa Militum wrote:The Sloth Overlord wrote:When you get your way, and squads are removed from public contracts, I too will be removed... removing the game from my ps3 that is. This game is only fun when you have a friend ( an actual friend, not just some guy in your squad.), and F.W. is no place for casual players, plus you can't get enough loyalty points to sustain the use of a suit.
Why should I be punished for the actions of proto stompers? What are your thoughts on if squads were removed from Domination, Ambush, and Acquisition but squads were still allowed in Skirmish matches? Skirmish is really the only one I enjoy, but if it was the only pub with squads, it would feel a little strange and much more strange to new players. Plus if skirmish was the only one with squads, the protostompers would q sync in mass, and ruin the game mode for everyone.
We can leave Domination with squads as well and then they will continue to q-sync in droves there. Domination is a lost cause. |
LOL KILLZ
LulKlz
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Posted - 2015.10.20 18:24:00 -
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Union118 wrote:I think its a good idea cuz i like playing solo. A lot of people do and teams can be set for PC and FW but pubs should just be players who wanna play solo.
I dont want to play against a team with tactics because its boring. I want to play randoms who are always testing their skills and have fun. I dont see why it would be a problem. Or you can use your God-given Brain and use tactics as a solo player to help the people around you. I know. It's mind-blowing stuff. And you don't want teams in pubs so you can kill but here is a revelation. You will be beat down more. All those slayers will no longer care about the squad and hunt you down relentlessly for +50.
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Union118
TH3 STRUGGL3
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Posted - 2015.10.20 20:07:00 -
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LOL KILLZ wrote:Union118 wrote:I think its a good idea cuz i like playing solo. A lot of people do and teams can be set for PC and FW but pubs should just be players who wanna play solo.
I dont want to play against a team with tactics because its boring. I want to play randoms who are always testing their skills and have fun. I dont see why it would be a problem. Or you can use your God-given Brain and use tactics as a solo player to help the people around you. I know. It's mind-blowing stuff. And you don't want teams in pubs so you can kill but here is a revelation. You will be beat down more. All those slayers will no longer care about the squad and hunt you down relentlessly for +50. You say that like i dont help my team... Iv done plenty for my team. Iv laid links, repped and pick up others, use AV and snipe as a last resort. But im not a army i cant be everywhere at the same time to suppress the enemy team. People play differently on a team than solo. Playing solo on 1v1 is a lot more fun.
Starter Fit Suits are OP :-)
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The Sloth Overlord
Intergalactic 4Chan Black Market
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Posted - 2015.10.20 20:55:00 -
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Union118 wrote:LOL KILLZ wrote:Union118 wrote:I think its a good idea cuz i like playing solo. A lot of people do and teams can be set for PC and FW but pubs should just be players who wanna play solo.
I dont want to play against a team with tactics because its boring. I want to play randoms who are always testing their skills and have fun. I dont see why it would be a problem. Or you can use your God-given Brain and use tactics as a solo player to help the people around you. I know. It's mind-blowing stuff. And you don't want teams in pubs so you can kill but here is a revelation. You will be beat down more. All those slayers will no longer care about the squad and hunt you down relentlessly for +50. You say that like i dont help my team... Iv done plenty for my team. Iv laid links, repped and pick up others, use AV and snipe as a last resort. But im not a army i cant be everywhere at the same time to suppress the enemy team. People play differently on a team than solo. Playing solo on 1v1 is a lot more fun. And that's why we should have one player fighting one other player on giant empty maps? Because you expect you should be able to fill every roll? |
Union118
TH3 STRUGGL3
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Posted - 2015.10.20 21:10:00 -
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The Sloth Overlord wrote:Union118 wrote:LOL KILLZ wrote:Union118 wrote:I think its a good idea cuz i like playing solo. A lot of people do and teams can be set for PC and FW but pubs should just be players who wanna play solo.
I dont want to play against a team with tactics because its boring. I want to play randoms who are always testing their skills and have fun. I dont see why it would be a problem. Or you can use your God-given Brain and use tactics as a solo player to help the people around you. I know. It's mind-blowing stuff. And you don't want teams in pubs so you can kill but here is a revelation. You will be beat down more. All those slayers will no longer care about the squad and hunt you down relentlessly for +50. You say that like i dont help my team... Iv done plenty for my team. Iv laid links, repped and pick up others, use AV and snipe as a last resort. But im not a army i cant be everywhere at the same time to suppress the enemy team. People play differently on a team than solo. Playing solo on 1v1 is a lot more fun. And that's why we should have one player fighting one other player on giant empty maps? Because you expect you should be able to fill every roll?
No but anyone who has been playing this game long enough should know when to switch roles and be able to help when its obvious to switch that roll. Like getting redlined by tanks and dropships. While the rest provide support instead of running infantry at a wall or red dots.
Starter Fit Suits are OP :-)
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Balistyc Farshot
MONSTER SYNERGY
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Posted - 2015.10.20 22:31:00 -
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Long and the short of it here.
If you remove squads, people will be forced to play together with people they don't know. Add isk to FW and the public contracts can become free for all without a squad.
If I didn't have my squad mates, I agree it gets tougher. Even the reduction to 4 from 6 is felt. I like being in a squad because teams can be so toxic because like reservoir dogs, you have a group of a-holes who all want to be Mr Black and no one will back down because they don't know each other.
So this would make it easier on the solo players. If they did this, they need to fix the team chat, vc, and making squads in battle. Maybe even throw back in the WB for say 60 seconds. Then those who will organize can.
Would that be tolerable? Squad become team in pubs, FW gets isk. Done and done right?
"Dying with your rep tool out - the logi-flasher!"
Who hasn't been caught by a cute little female scout doing this?
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Operative 1174 Uuali
True Companion Planetary Requisitions
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Posted - 2015.10.21 00:31:00 -
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Correction, no premade squads in pubs. That and a matchmaking algorithm that separates individuals (as much as possible based on population logged on at the time) who have a history of grouping together is enough to make it work and still have some semblance of geoup effort to win the match.
CCP logic GÇô We fix what doesn't need breaking.
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Shaun Iwairo
DUST University Ivy League
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Posted - 2015.10.21 00:42:00 -
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Operative 1174 Uuali wrote:Correction, no premade squads in pubs. That and a matchmaking algorithm that separates individuals (as much as possible based on population logged on at the time) who have a history of grouping together is enough to make it work and still have some semblance of geoup effort to win the match.
Wow you're not even trying to hide the fact that you want squads gone because there's some people in the game that have mastered their squad play and you don't like it.
There's other ways to encourage team-play over squad play without just straight up removing pre-made squads. Team VC. Squad-leader VC. Team-wide orders. Team commander position. The more you keep ignoring the alternatives the more it looks like you want squads gone because you want the game brought down to your level.
Something is killing new player retention.
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Summa Militum
Abstract Requiem
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Posted - 2015.10.21 01:20:00 -
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Shaun Iwairo wrote:Operative 1174 Uuali wrote:Correction, no premade squads in pubs. That and a matchmaking algorithm that separates individuals (as much as possible based on population logged on at the time) who have a history of grouping together is enough to make it work and still have some semblance of geoup effort to win the match. Wow you're not even trying to hide the fact that you want squads gone because there's some people in the game that have mastered their squad play and you don't like it. There's other ways to encourage team-play over squad play without just straight up removing pre-made squads. Team VC. Squad-leader VC. Team-wide orders. Team commander position. The more you keep ignoring the alternatives the more it looks like you want squads gone because you want the game brought down to your level.
I want squads gone so the game can be brought up to my level. |
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