Lately I hear that Locus Grenades help

Beat me to it. I think that is good for the game. A newbie getting a kill versus a proto suit is exciting and fun for them. I remember the feeling.

Lately I hear that Locus Grenades help

Not when the person in Proto also has Locus Grenades and especially not if the person in Proto has Precision Enhancing Modules at Level 5 equipped.

This game needs Proto Gear removed from Public Contracts.

?????? Is there some magical quality of EWAR Modules that reduces the damage of grenades?

I suggest running away and finding a target you can handle or not engaging someone in proto to begin with. Pick your targets right or support someone else who can kill them until you get good enough to take them down yourself.

?????? Is there some magical quality of EWAR Modules that reduces the damage of grenades?

Players should be pitted against players with same SP

bring free mlt lav murder taxis back. newb problem solved.. new problem begins as protos get pancaked.

Lately I hear that Locus Grenades help

Hey big secret the balancing factor is called gun game those same vets you cry about most if them have weak alts that do just fine

I have a lr am..assault with 2 mill so that has a 9.3 kdr and I drop 30 bombs with it regularly ..

And can't honestly understand the qq if you can't zap a proto suit with a suit 1/10 of the value of that proto suit you need to learn to shoot

A 20k std assault can easily kill any suit

Plus grenade buff ....

You know what would really help?

Tier genocide. Put Militia, Basic, and Advanced gear into the gas chambers. Or just delete them. I don't care which.

I believe technically this is true but I feel it would take too much flavor out of the game.

Though I do believe Militia Gear should be removed and replaced with more racial variances of weapons and vehicles. All Militia BPOs people have can be converted to Standard BPOs.

What "flavor?"

The "ooooh! My new Rifle does [x] more DPS! It shoots the same, sounds the same, looks the same, has the same mag size, same sight, same everything except damage!"-type flavor?

The "oooohh! My shield extender has 22 more HP, but is still fundamentally identical to the blatantly obsolete shlt-tier stuff below it!"-type flavor?

Tastes more like the flavor of rotten meat to me. I think our stew could do without it.

What "flavor?"

The "ooooh! My new Rifle does [x] more DPS! It shoots the same, sounds the same, looks the same, has the same mag size, same sight, same everything except damage!"-type flavor?

The "oooohh! My shield extender has 22 more HP, but is still fundamentally identical to the blatantly obsolete shlt-tier stuff below it!"-type flavor?

Tastes more like the flavor of rotten meat to me. I think our stew could do without it.

I'm not going to go into details of the flavor seeing how we all have different taste buds but I will point out that given that there are a lot of people, myself included, who wish that we weren't limited to 30 fitting slots is a clear indication that this game has a lot of flavor to it.

The "flavor" as I see it,comes from the module TYPES, the suit TYPES, the weapon TYPES, and all variants within.

Tiers? How is one fitting kitted out with full Advanced stuff meaningfully different ("flavor"-wise) from the same exact fitting but with proto?

They are functionally identical, but one does more damage, has more health, stealth and better [insert trait here]. They are the same flavor, but one is simply more powerful. One may as well be obsolete.

Get rid of the sub proto tiers, and you know what? You still have 30 slots for different flavors, and you don't have to waste one on less "flavorful" (ie weaker) ones.

The best part of the game, to me, is functional variety.

@Shaun

CPU&PG differences can be replicated via new variants of, say, shield extenders that have different characteristics.

Ex: proto stays the same
Take Advantage tier, bump it to proto, keep the CPU/pg the same, and add resistances, recharge delay, whatever to it.

Boom. Kinda keeps lesser items but they add flavor

The problem with them is that they take to long to detonate even after holding.

Are you kidding me? Do I really have to explain this to you?

If I know you are approaching me from around the corner I can cook a grenade, time it right, and blow you to pieces before you know what is going on.

As a matter of fact I just played an Acquisition match against Doushe Gabbana at which there was a moment where both of us were positioned around the corner from one another, we had no direct line of sight to each other at any point before this moment, yet it was very obvious that both of us knew exactly where one another was positioned, we knew the speed we were approaching each other, and with my experience in the game I knew for a fact that he was going to throw a grenade at me; which he did.

***I'm editing this to add that even though Doushe Gabbana was running Proto and used a Locus Grenade against me while I was running an APEX Suit (230 Shield/492 Armor) and a 'Quafe' Assault Rifle he was not able to take me out with that grenade. Doushe Gabbana is a skilled player with plenty of experience in this game and him failing to take me out with a Locus Grenade should show that telling a newberry to use Locus Grenades to combat Proto players is not a viable or effective option.

You know what would really help?

Tier genocide. Put Militia, Basic, and Advanced gear into the gas chambers. Or just delete them. I don't care which.

Devs, GMs and CSMs, I think it's time for an official feedback thread on this 'tier locking' topic.