What if Pilot suits gave the Pilot more detailed information on their gunners and/passengers?

Things like ammo and heat levels on gunner turrets on all vehicles and the HP of gunners and passengers in Dropships and LAVs.

I'd reckon the PS3 doesn't have the memory budget to render Dust twice as a PiP. This is a nifty tactical awareness option for suits.

As popular as the idea of a Pilot Suit is, we have never determined what a Pilot suit should be. What bonuses could such a suit be giving that would not make vehicle balance even more difficult? Well, it occurred to me that maybe a Pilot suit should be defined by unique functions rather than unique bonuses.

Here is my proposal:

Dropships:

Small window in your interface which shows the other view perspective when you switch between 3rd person and 1st person view.

When warring a Pilot suit you should have Pitch and Yaw indicators to allow an experienced pilot to fly in first person mode.

When warring a Pilot suit you should have velocity numbers for Forward, Backward, Left, Right, Up, and Down indicated on the edge of your screen so you can control and counteract drift when in 1st person mode more easily.

Vehicle Change: Assault Dropship nose turrets should be fixed and aimed by steering the Dropsuip itself. This would be viable in 1st person mode with the aid of Pitch and Yaw indicators, but restrict the time on target when shooting at ground targets.


HAV:

Small window in your interface which shows the other view perspective when you switch between 3rd person and 1st person view.

When warring a Pilot suit you should have the ability to operate the main turret while driving the HAV.

Vehicle Change: Except for Pilot suits, the Driver of the HAV operates the small front turret rather than the main turret.


LAV:

Small window in your interface which shows the other view perspective when you switch between forward and rear view. (Acts like a review mirror or backup camera.)

Pilot suit would give greater acceleration when operating a LAV.



The idea is for the Pilot suit to give pilots additional tools to make operating a vehicle easier. Someone in an Infantry suit should still be able to operate a vehicle, but without the custom interfaces offered by the Pilot suit.

I also think the Pilot suit should only have a Sidearm slot, to make them less effective as an Infantry suit.

YOU ARE NOT LISTING ANY BONUSES TO THE ACTUAL TANK AT ALL. YOUR BASICALLY SAYING f*** TANKERS. I SHOULD GET A HIGHER CPU / PG OR LESS SPEED PENALTY. YOUR SUGGESTION MAKES NO SENSE TO ME AT ALL.

The point of Fox's idea wasn't to directly buff the stats of a tank via Pilot Suit but rather to add increased functions for Pilots to take advantage of. Things like the second view screen for monitoring around a vehicle while in 1st Person view, increasing control for 1st Person view by giving increased readouts regarding speed, tilt angle for Dropship etc. that can help a Pilot and would give them an advantage from their skill and ability to control the vehicle rather than just making the tank stronger.

Having Pilot Suits directly buff the stats of a tank, or any other vehicle, comes with its own balancing problems. Do you make a tank only viable/useful with the Pilot Suit, which makes them less useful/weak without one? Do you make tanks viable without the suit, but having the suit make them even better, which then runs the risk of making Pilot Suits in tanks OP and the target of QQ and nerfs?

If you have suggestions of what can be done with the Pilot Suit, you should list them for discussion.

OHH BUT YOUR FINE THAT A HOTFIX AGO THE OP SCRAM RIFLE GOT A STAT BUFF. BUT A TANK CANNOT? I CANNOT UNDERSTAND THE IGNORANCE THAT GOES BEHIND EVERY POST.

there is one thing to consider tho if a pilot suit is ment to be only used inside of vehicles it could drastically put itself in danger when using an LAV and when not inside protected vehicles meaning they would not be battle capable as a standalone unit

now I don't mind that in itself but not being able to survive when not in a vehicle severely gimps the effectiveness of such a suit

a simple fix for me would be speed something that is at times necessary since you need to go out of your way to call in vehicles sometimes

a sidearm should slot should at least be present to protect oneself in the worst case scenarios and pilot suits in LAV's need some type of protection from simply being shot out as I would imagine pilot suits would not be able to take much damage

YOU ARE NOT LISTING ANY BONUSES TO THE ACTUAL TANK AT ALL. YOUR BASICALLY SAYING f*** TANKERS. I SHOULD GET A HIGHER CPU / PG OR LESS SPEED PENALTY. YOUR SUGGESTION MAKES NO SENSE TO ME AT ALL.

OHH BUT YOUR FINE THAT A HOTFIX AGO THE OP SCRAM RIFLE GOT A STAT BUFF. BUT A TANK CANNOT? I CANNOT UNDERSTAND THE IGNORANCE THAT GOES BEHIND EVERY POST.

OHH BUT YOUR FINE THAT A HOTFIX AGO THE OP SCRAM RIFLE GOT A STAT BUFF. BUT A TANK CANNOT? I CANNOT UNDERSTAND THE IGNORANCE THAT GOES BEHIND EVERY POST.

This is the same concentration of sodium chloride you get from a cup of water from the dead sea

Then allow me to clarify.

If you can only operate a Tank solo when warring a Pilot suit, then that is a counterbalance which allows for a Buff to tanks.

It means that a player can't be a solo Tank Operator and an HMG Sentinel at the same time. If you have to either ware a specialty suit, or use two players, then that justifies making Tanks harder to kill.

You have to look at the big picture. If you want your role to be more powerful, you need to think of something you can give up in exchange (a nerf). Find a Nerf you can live with, and you suddenly have a bargaining position to ask CCP for a corresponding Buff.


The Sentinel Community understands this. The Scout Community understands this. If more of the Vehicle community understood this then vehicles would be in a much better place.

This is the same concentration of sodium chloride you get from a cup of water from the dead sea

Under the topic of The Vehicle Community Not Understanding

I was a tanker for a very long time (This account wasn't my first account either as you can tell by the name) and at this stage of my dust career I've played every role in the game, and I've been able to use everything well to above average (besides logi)

But fox I don't think you've actually played the game enough to even bother putting stuff like this out.

As a tanker I was there through the highs and the lows but I eventually drew the line when I could be killed before my hardeners even activated! AKA when I had to rely on a hardener to survive vs. Infantry.

Now the problem with vehicles from my perspective is the lack of vehicle support here on the forums or in game nowadays for that matter.

There are almost no competent tankers left in the game because they have either quit the game or are forced to either camp in or near the redline. OR run a fit RELIANT on hardeners that can be killed within seconds if no hardener is active.

AV is still > than tanks. I stand by that statement even though I no longer have tanks but instead I have AV because it's easier cheaper and far more reliable

In regards to the above...... the game took a massive turn for the worse once Hardeners became the core HAV module and Repairs went purely passive.