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8213
Blauhelme E.B.O.L.A.
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Posted - 2015.10.06 06:10:00 -
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Lag, frame rate, exploits, glitches, and match making.
When will CCP learn their lesson? How can we expect any future titles from them to be worthwhile with this poor example of project management.
Why hasn't the playerbase stood up for themselves? Why hasn't the CPM ever properly represented it's playerbase?
Ich mag Katzen :3
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XxBlazikenxX
Pure Evil. Bleeding Sun Conglomerate
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Posted - 2015.10.06 06:15:00 -
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8213 wrote:Lag, frame rate, exploits, glitches, and match making.
When will CCP learn their lesson? How can we expect any future titles from them to be worthwhile with this poor example of project management.
Why hasn't the playerbase stood up for themselves? Why hasn't the CPM ever properly represented it's playerbase? Legend sighting here!
CCP is slowly learning to take community feedback, and is making progress to make this game better as shown by Hotfix Foxfour.
Director of Pure Evil.
Pure Evil. is mass recruiting, apply today and join a war of the Bleeding Sun vs everyone!
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KGB Sleep
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Posted - 2015.10.06 06:15:00 -
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They can't do it man. LINK
They would have to rebuild it from the ground up iirc.
Because beer, that's why.
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Vicious Minotaur
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Posted - 2015.10.06 06:36:00 -
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DUST is fixed.
You just have to look at a different definition.
I am a minotaur.
You are not a minotaur.
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Thumb Green
Elephant Riders
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Posted - 2015.10.06 08:26:00 -
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KGB Sleep wrote:They can't do it man. LINKThey would have to rebuild it from the ground up iirc. Well then fcking rebuild it from the ground up. Tried to tell them 2 1/2 some odd years ago you can't build a house on a broken foundation but no, half-assed bandaid after half-assed bandaid
Shit man, all I ever get is fucking warnings.
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dzizur
Nos Nothi
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Posted - 2015.10.06 09:56:00 -
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8213 wrote:Lag, frame rate, exploits, glitches, and match making.
When will CCP learn their lesson? How can we expect any future titles from them to be worthwhile with this poor example of project management.
Why hasn't the playerbase stood up for themselves? Why hasn't the CPM ever properly represented it's playerbase?
And the answer is.....
CCP! :P |
Luther Mandrix
WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL RUST415
647
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Posted - 2015.10.06 10:16:00 -
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8213 wrote:Lag, frame rate, exploits, glitches, and match making.
When will CCP learn their lesson? How can we expect any future titles from them to be worthwhile with this poor example of project management.
Why hasn't the playerbase stood up for themselves? Why hasn't the CPM ever properly represented it's playerbase? 1.Frame rate CCP said can only be fixed by YOU upgrading YOUR PS3 HARD DRIVE to SSD. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=217142&p=4 2.I don't know why the gliches or map bugs that MAKE US STICK TO STAIRS AT THE DOM!!!! are not fixed. Cough GunJack , Cough Gunjack, Cough PC Legion port the other Year that went quiet, snifle , spit something came up in my mouth sorry Well at least they did all the tweeks from uprising to here.I am sure it took some man hours to do all they have done and I am greatful. You know their bread and butter is Eve Online and I play that also and have RAGE quit it once and resubbed (industrialist who lost his #$%^ at a Gate Camp) My Guys in Corp some of them say they are interested in playing Eve but I tell them its not Free to play cost a subscribtion and for the money I don't think it worth it.Not that I am a bitter vet but I would be farther ahead if i just played Dust as i can't play TWO GAMES at once and thats what would happen to Eves player Base less people playing Eve if they ported Dust to a PC. Is PL going to stop playing world of Tanks (I don't think so) |
The KTM Duke
Capital Acquisitions LLC
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Posted - 2015.10.06 10:26:00 -
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XxBlazikenxX wrote:8213 wrote:Lag, frame rate, exploits, glitches, and match making.
When will CCP learn their lesson? How can we expect any future titles from them to be worthwhile with this poor example of project management.
Why hasn't the playerbase stood up for themselves? Why hasn't the CPM ever properly represented it's playerbase? Legend sighting here! CCP is slowly learning to take community feedback, and is making progress to make this game better as shown by Hotfix Foxfour. How hotfix foxfour will fix the problems noticed by 8213? I mean framerate, lag, matchmaking?
// H0riz0n Unlimit // "This guy take no bullshit,that makes him the best and the worst candidate at the same time"
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TheD1CK
Dead Man's Game
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Posted - 2015.10.06 11:15:00 -
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The KTM Duke wrote:XxBlazikenxX wrote:8213 wrote:Lag, frame rate, exploits, glitches, and match making.
When will CCP learn their lesson? How can we expect any future titles from them to be worthwhile with this poor example of project management.
Why hasn't the playerbase stood up for themselves? Why hasn't the CPM ever properly represented it's playerbase? Legend sighting here! CCP is slowly learning to take community feedback, and is making progress to make this game better as shown by Hotfix Foxfour. How hotfix foxfour will fix the problems noticed by 8213? I mean framerate, lag, matchmaking?
Good of you to ask
Assault suits with mxed Core Sklills will now enjoy 600hp+ while having improved regen - This way your proto suit can stomp for longer !!
Mercs with Assaults maxed out, get bonuses reffered to as "Amarr Assault 2.0" - Because making weapons extremely good on one suit type worked the first time !!
Dropships can now lol at AV while being hit and possibly dodge swarms - But thats fine, the players that matter use Alldins for AV !!
Tanking, the most overpriced role in the game, will now DIE even faster - surprise bum-fun effiency... coming SOONtm !!
The games are stale, the performance is crappy.. but who cares when FoTm tryhards are handed reasons to respec, because in an official CCP statement "Dust514 is now profitable" thanks to respec and SKINS.. luckily for those haters still forum lurking they did not announce "Dust514 is now enjoyable for more than a fraction of the playerbase" because it isn't and unless someone manages to pull that stick out of their community interactions behind, never will be
Yeah, that's how.
SOONtm
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The KTM Duke
Capital Acquisitions LLC
955
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Posted - 2015.10.06 11:59:00 -
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Breach forgegun OP though...1 shot a gv.0 seems legit
// H0riz0n Unlimit // "This guy take no bullshit,that makes him the best and the worst candidate at the same time"
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TheD1CK
Dead Man's Game
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Posted - 2015.10.06 12:13:00 -
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The KTM Duke wrote:Breach forgegun OP though...1 shot a gv.0 seems legit
Whats 1mil+ worth of a vehicle compared to one man with a Forge Gun? Nothing!!!
SOONtm
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The KTM Duke
Capital Acquisitions LLC
955
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Posted - 2015.10.06 12:30:00 -
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TheD1CK wrote:The KTM Duke wrote:Breach forgegun OP though...1 shot a gv.0 seems legit Whats 1mil+ worth of a vehicle compared to one man with a Forge Gun? Nothing!!! 1V = 1AV. I would really like to know who found the solution to shield tanking in buff shield recharge rate when you cant have a good amount of HP ( 12k shield sagaris -insert QQ here-) , hardners will still have delay...what a joke! Passive reps were the problem? Nah kill tanks again!
// H0riz0n Unlimit // "This guy take no bullshit,that makes him the best and the worst candidate at the same time"
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Mortedeamor
The Black Masquerade
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Posted - 2015.10.06 15:07:00 -
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Thumb Green wrote:KGB Sleep wrote:They can't do it man. LINKThey would have to rebuild it from the ground up iirc. Well then fcking rebuild it from the ground up. Tried to tell them 2 1/2 some odd years ago you can't build a house on a broken foundation but no, half-assed bandaid after half-assed bandaid
cough every one told them over two years ago
they should have never built it on the ps3
pc master race
PORT IT CCP
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Ghost Kaisar
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2015.10.06 15:37:00 -
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XxBlazikenxX wrote:8213 wrote:Lag, frame rate, exploits, glitches, and match making.
When will CCP learn their lesson? How can we expect any future titles from them to be worthwhile with this poor example of project management.
Why hasn't the playerbase stood up for themselves? Why hasn't the CPM ever properly represented it's playerbase? Legend sighting here! CCP is slowly learning to take community feedback, and is making progress to make this game better as shown by Hotfix Foxfour.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NIgfiSzCy1o
Re-Retired PC Scout. I miss the old days ;_;
Wanna play EVE? 30 day trial here
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howard sanchez
Clonation
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Posted - 2015.10.06 15:39:00 -
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I get that we'll probably never know the whole truth but, from my very limited outside assessment, here's how it seemed to go:
Ccp decides to expand its game offering in the hopes of expanding playerbase/ and dollar influx ( solid business approach).
They look at the console market and the FPS genre. This before PS4/XB1. Sony agrees to partner with them but will only agree to allow for a free to play on PS3 package - Sony knew they had Planetside to keep alive and growing and they wanted the PS4 for that title.
CCP got stuck with PS3 and they took the deal because it was the best they had at the time.
The game, Dust, couldn't live up to the hype on this platform (PS3). Now they want to port...but we have no idea what kind of contractual obligation CCP is really I with Sony. Maybe they agreed to keep dust exclusively on PS3 for 5 years or some crazy crap. We don't know.
Maybe they really would port to PC or a next gen console but they're making so much from Aurum sales on PS3 they'd be shooting themselves in the foot to move now. We don't know.
Maybe they're programming away on a PC Legion title and don't want to reveal until they're certain they can publish and release in the time period they have in mind. We don't know.
And maybe CCP knows all the answers and has no intention of telling us because in the CCP corporate mindset customers/players really don't matter. They believe we will pay to p,as whatever they offer whenever and wherever they offer it regardless of the level of customer service and lack of feedback they choose to share. We. Don't. Know.
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Thumb Green
Elephant Riders
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Posted - 2015.10.06 16:09:00 -
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Mortedeamor wrote:Thumb Green wrote:KGB Sleep wrote:They can't do it man. LINKThey would have to rebuild it from the ground up iirc. Well then fcking rebuild it from the ground up. Tried to tell them 2 1/2 some odd years ago you can't build a house on a broken foundation but no, half-assed bandaid after half-assed bandaid cough every one told them over two years ago they should have never built it on the ps3 The ps3 ain't the broken foundation. If CCP would have taken it seriously instead of half-assing it the entire time, we'd have a great game.... on the ps3 because the hardware ain't the problem.
Shit man, all I ever get is fucking warnings.
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howard sanchez
Clonation
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Posted - 2015.10.06 16:41:00 -
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I respectfully disagree.
I believe the hardware (PS3) is the problem
The crazy thing is: CCP knows the real answer. They know the truth regarding whether Dust has a future on this platform or not
They know the truth regarding whether the biggest issue with Dust is game programming or hardware capability (PS3).
But, again, the real issue here is not what the problem is...the real issue is why the people who know the answers won't speak with those who need to know (us). |
Koch Rosenzweig
S.K.I.L.L OF G.O.D
781
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Posted - 2015.10.06 16:44:00 -
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8213 wrote: match making.
How u can fix this if people are leaving the game?
Skill Of God 4Life - Director, Diplomat & FC. My best score in PC
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Thumb Green
Elephant Riders
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Posted - 2015.10.06 17:06:00 -
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howard sanchez wrote:I respectfully disagree.
I believe the hardware (PS3) is the problem
The crazy thing is: CCP knows the real answer. They know the truth regarding whether Dust has a future on this platform or not
They know the truth regarding whether the biggest issue with Dust is game programming or hardware capability (PS3).
But, again, the real issue here is not what the problem is...the real issue is why the people who know the answers won't speak with those who need to know (us). Yes, the hardware is the problem. That's why I was playing an online fps that does most of what dust does almost 18 years ago on worse hardware than the ps3.
Shit man, all I ever get is fucking warnings.
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XxBlazikenxX
Pure Evil. Bleeding Sun Conglomerate
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Posted - 2015.10.06 17:07:00 -
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Thumb Green wrote:howard sanchez wrote:I respectfully disagree.
I believe the hardware (PS3) is the problem
The crazy thing is: CCP knows the real answer. They know the truth regarding whether Dust has a future on this platform or not
They know the truth regarding whether the biggest issue with Dust is game programming or hardware capability (PS3).
But, again, the real issue here is not what the problem is...the real issue is why the people who know the answers won't speak with those who need to know (us). Yes, the hardware is the problem. That's why I was playing an online fps that does most of what dust does almost 18 years ago on worse hardware than the ps3. I'm willing to bet that Dust's coding is 5x more complex than what you are talking about.
Director of Pure Evil.
Pure Evil. is mass recruiting, apply today and join a war of the Bleeding Sun vs everyone!
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howard sanchez
Clonation
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Posted - 2015.10.06 17:11:00 -
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Thumb Green wrote:howard sanchez wrote:I respectfully disagree.
I believe the hardware (PS3) is the problem
The crazy thing is: CCP knows the real answer. They know the truth regarding whether Dust has a future on this platform or not
They know the truth regarding whether the biggest issue with Dust is game programming or hardware capability (PS3).
But, again, the real issue here is not what the problem is...the real issue is why the people who know the answers won't speak with those who need to know (us). Yes, the hardware is the problem. That's why I was playing an online fps that does most of what dust does almost 18 years ago on worse hardware than the ps3. Whatever, TG... What Ever.
Say, you're right...maybe the PS3 is no problem at all. Maybe the whole issue with Dust is bad game programming and them not emulating some game you played 18 years ago. Maybe.
Who cares. If CCP won't communicate with its playerbase and we are left here with what we currently have... Then blame whoever the F you like.
CCP knows the Truth
And they're the only ones not involved in this conversation
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Murder Medic
Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic
254
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Posted - 2015.10.06 17:11:00 -
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Thumb Green wrote:howard sanchez wrote:I respectfully disagree.
I believe the hardware (PS3) is the problem
The crazy thing is: CCP knows the real answer. They know the truth regarding whether Dust has a future on this platform or not
They know the truth regarding whether the biggest issue with Dust is game programming or hardware capability (PS3).
But, again, the real issue here is not what the problem is...the real issue is why the people who know the answers won't speak with those who need to know (us). Yes, the hardware is the problem. That's why I was playing an online fps that does most of what dust does almost 18 years ago on worse hardware than the ps3. At first I thought you were talking about Battlefield 2142, but then you said 18 years so I'm not really sure what you're talking about lol. C.S? |
7th Son 7
Hakuna Matatah Inc
1
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Posted - 2015.10.06 17:17:00 -
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CCP's busy working on other projects and maybe using the money Dust is making to help fund those projects.
Only your complete and total awareness is needed, nothing else will do. ----- OSHO
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Thumb Green
Elephant Riders
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Posted - 2015.10.06 17:42:00 -
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XxBlazikenxX wrote:Thumb Green wrote:howard sanchez wrote:I respectfully disagree.
I believe the hardware (PS3) is the problem
The crazy thing is: CCP knows the real answer. They know the truth regarding whether Dust has a future on this platform or not
They know the truth regarding whether the biggest issue with Dust is game programming or hardware capability (PS3).
But, again, the real issue here is not what the problem is...the real issue is why the people who know the answers won't speak with those who need to know (us). Yes, the hardware is the problem. That's why I was playing an online fps that does most of what dust does almost 18 years ago on worse hardware than the ps3. I'm willing to bet that Dust's coding is 5x more complex than what you are talking about. I'll admit, they got a bit more going on here with the customization and the "link" to EVE but at most it's just 2x more complicated. Other than that, dust ain't doing anything special.
Murder Medic wrote:At first I thought you were talking about Battlefield 2142, but then you said 18 years so I'm not really sure what you're talking about lol. C.S? Tribes, had 3 vehicles (an ads type scout, and 2 transports that passengers could shoot from), supply depots, 3 customizable classes, turrets, smaller deployable turrets, uplinks, deployable ammo, rep tools, scanners (not hand held though), multiple game modes it also had generators and solar panels to power bases the bases supply depots, turrets, vehicle stations, radars, and force fields. Then you throw in the modded stuff, and you had deployable force fields, platforms, full sized turrets and other stuff I can't remember right now. All that could be completely destroyed with exception to the built in base stuff which could be repaired after it was taken out. Edit: Oh, it also had similar sized maps, supported up to 128 players but to be fair, I never seen matches that big; mostly 8v8 & 16vs16, occasional 32vs32 on the really big maps.
Shit man, all I ever get is fucking warnings.
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Thumb Green
Elephant Riders
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Posted - 2015.10.06 17:48:00 -
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howard sanchez wrote:Thumb Green wrote:howard sanchez wrote:I respectfully disagree.
I believe the hardware (PS3) is the problem
The crazy thing is: CCP knows the real answer. They know the truth regarding whether Dust has a future on this platform or not
They know the truth regarding whether the biggest issue with Dust is game programming or hardware capability (PS3).
But, again, the real issue here is not what the problem is...the real issue is why the people who know the answers won't speak with those who need to know (us). Yes, the hardware is the problem. That's why I was playing an online fps that does most of what dust does almost 18 years ago on worse hardware than the ps3. Whatever, TG... What Ever. Say, you're right...maybe the PS3 is no problem at all. Maybe the whole issue with Dust is bad game programming and them not emulating some game you played 18 years ago. Maybe. Who cares. If CCP won't communicate with its playerbase and we are left here with what we currently have... Then blame whoever the F you like. CCP knows the Truth And they're the only ones not involved in this conversation And THAT is the point. CCP doesn't have to talk to us and I'm not asking them to. I don't want them to emulate Tribes, this game has the potential to be far greater than that. I'm just using Tribes as an example of why the hardware isn't to blame.
Shit man, all I ever get is fucking warnings.
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CommanderBolt
Dead Man's Game
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Posted - 2015.10.06 18:18:00 -
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You're all a bunch of scrubs. Come here and I will Quafe you in the face.
This is the turning point, the rising of the tide.
No fear inside
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XxBlazikenxX
Pure Evil. Bleeding Sun Conglomerate
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Posted - 2015.10.06 18:18:00 -
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CommanderBolt wrote:You're all a bunch of scrubs. Come here and I will Quafe you in the face. I got promoted?
Director of Pure Evil.
Pure Evil. is mass recruiting, apply today and join a war of the Bleeding Sun vs everyone!
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CommanderBolt
Dead Man's Game
4
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Posted - 2015.10.06 18:26:00 -
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XxBlazikenxX wrote:CommanderBolt wrote:You're all a bunch of scrubs. Come here and I will Quafe you in the face. I got promoted?
Yes, me too. From Skrahhb to scrub. Quite a leap forward in our careers.
This is the turning point, the rising of the tide.
No fear inside
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Mortedeamor
The Black Masquerade
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Posted - 2015.10.07 23:22:00 -
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Thumb Green wrote:Mortedeamor wrote:Thumb Green wrote:KGB Sleep wrote:They can't do it man. LINKThey would have to rebuild it from the ground up iirc. Well then fcking rebuild it from the ground up. Tried to tell them 2 1/2 some odd years ago you can't build a house on a broken foundation but no, half-assed bandaid after half-assed bandaid cough every one told them over two years ago they should have never built it on the ps3 The ps3 ain't the broken foundation. If CCP would have taken it seriously instead of half-assing it the entire time, we'd have a great game.... on the ps3 because the hardware ain't the problem. ccp is incapable of non halfassed code ..thusly the ps3 was a wrong foundation ..
it doesn't have the power to effectively run unoptimizaed pieces of kitten likes pcs can
pc master race
PORT IT CCP
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Forever ETC
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Posted - 2015.10.07 23:30:00 -
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Mortedeamor wrote:Thumb Green wrote:Mortedeamor wrote:Thumb Green wrote:KGB Sleep wrote:They can't do it man. LINKThey would have to rebuild it from the ground up iirc. Well then fcking rebuild it from the ground up. Tried to tell them 2 1/2 some odd years ago you can't build a house on a broken foundation but no, half-assed bandaid after half-assed bandaid cough every one told them over two years ago they should have never built it on the ps3 The ps3 ain't the broken foundation. If CCP would have taken it seriously instead of half-assing it the entire time, we'd have a great game.... on the ps3 because the hardware ain't the problem. ccp is incapable of non halfassed code ..thusly the ps3 was a wrong foundation .. it doesn't have the power to effectively run unoptimizaed pieces of kitten likes pcs can CCP should have hired devs with experience on console and cell development and we would have the game we were hoping for.
AmarrFTW
"The Hero got his feelings hurt for 9 hp... "
Not For Sale- Sanders 2016
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Mortedeamor
The Black Masquerade
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Posted - 2015.10.08 01:04:00 -
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i agree however whats done is done and ps3 is dead..ps4 hardly has power and they should have just stuck with what they have exp in pc
pc master race
PORT IT CCP
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Mobius Wyvern
Fatal Absolution Bleeding Sun Conglomerate
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Posted - 2015.10.08 01:36:00 -
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Mortedeamor wrote: i agree however whats done is done and ps3 is dead..ps4 hardly has power and they should have just stuck with what they have exp in pc
The PS4's graphical capability stands up pretty damn well against current PC hardware.
Let's not forget that we here on PSN made this game profitable for CCP despite everything they've done that drove away so much of the community. I think that deserves consideration as far as the game's eventual destination.
Amidst the blue skies
A link from past to future
The sheltering wings of the protector
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DogeGode Master
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Posted - 2015.10.08 03:12:00 -
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Don't fix what isn't not profitable.
Totally not an alt.
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