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Larkson Crazy Eye
WarRavens Imperium Eden
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Posted - 2015.09.25 20:12:00 -
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Leovarian L Lavitz wrote:Those numbers are skewed now that you get free aurum for just logging in every day. Recalculate, nao
No it's not. I'm surprised I didn't see this brought up yet in the thread but you no longer get Loyalty points for using your aurum, it's when you buy it. The free aurum you get daily, and threw events like right now doesn't raise your rank at all. I just spent 5k aurum on a 7 day booster on one my newer accounts I use to test things out on. That character is still rank zero with 200 points to go to rank 1.
As for earnings it's not 100% accurate, or it's just bugged. If you join a match you don't automatically gain 1 loyalty point, nor do you automatically gain 2 for winning. I tested it out and sat back in the spawn point doing nothing, ending the match with zero WP. My team won and I got no points at all. Nothing for joining a match and nothing for the team winning.
I also tested out matches were I earned 300-400wp and got nothing for the effort. So joining a match and/or winning doesn't really seem to matter. It's just every 500 wp you earn life time far a I can tell. You do earn points for fractions of 500, if it adds up to 500 over several different matches.
I've also ran into a bug in where my account lost over 600 earned loyalty points for no reason. One day I was less than 100 from the next level and then suddenly every character on that account was 600 some points back. Given it's a mere 5 points a day for logging in and a small 1-5 points on average for playing a match. That was countless hours and/or days worth of work lost because of some glitch.
A glitch I reported and made a thread about that people replied to but nothing official was done or commented on about it.
Ib Halfheart, Goblin Tactician: "Everybody but me--CHARGE!"
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2015.09.25 20:19:00 -
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Larkson Crazy Eye wrote:Leovarian L Lavitz wrote:Those numbers are skewed now that you get free aurum for just logging in every day. Recalculate, nao
No it's not. I'm surprised I didn't see this brought up yet in the thread but you no longer get Loyalty points for using your aurum, it's when you buy it. The free aurum you get daily, and threw events like right now doesn't raise your rank at all. I just spent 5k aurum on a 7 day booster on one my newer accounts I use to test things out on. That character is still rank zero with 200 points to go to rank 1. Oh, my, really?
That's good to know. In that case I guess it will take a century. Disappointing that they changed it specifically for that, but w/e.
Thanks for the info. I vaguely recall talk about this but I hadn't had confirmation.
Quote: As for earnings it's not 100% accurate, or it's just bugged. If you join a match you don't automatically gain 1 loyalty point, nor do you automatically gain 2 for winning. I tested it out and sat back in the spawn point doing nothing, ending the match with zero WP. My team won and I got no points at all. Nothing for joining a match and nothing for the team winning.
I also tested out matches were I earned 300-400wp and got nothing for the effort. So joining a match and/or winning doesn't really seem to matter. It's just every 500 wp you earn life time far a I can tell. You do earn points for fractions of 500, if it adds up to 500 over several different matches.
I've also ran into a bug in where my account lost over 600 earned loyalty points for no reason. One day I was less than 100 from the next level and then suddenly every character on that account was 600 some points back. Given it's a mere 5 points a day for logging in and a small 1-5 points on average for playing a match. That was countless hours and/or days worth of work lost because of some glitch.
A glitch I reported and made a thread about that people replied to but nothing official was done or commented on about it.
LR display is buggy as hell.
Arkena Wyrnspire aka "British Khorne" - Cross Atu
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Daemonn Adima
Y.A.M.A.H No Context
121
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Posted - 2015.09.25 20:22:00 -
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Larkson Crazy Eye wrote:Leovarian L Lavitz wrote:Those numbers are skewed now that you get free aurum for just logging in every day. Recalculate, nao
No it's not. I'm surprised I didn't see this brought up yet in the thread but you no longer get Loyalty points for using your aurum, it's when you buy it. The free aurum you get daily, and threw events like right now doesn't raise your rank at all. I just spent 5k aurum on a 7 day booster on one my newer accounts I use to test things out on. That character is still rank zero with 200 points to go to rank 1. As for earnings it's not 100% accurate, or it's just bugged. If you join a match you don't automatically gain 1 loyalty point, nor do you automatically gain 2 for winning. I tested it out and sat back in the spawn point doing nothing, ending the match with zero WP. My team won and I got no points at all. Nothing for joining a match and nothing for the team winning. I also tested out matches were I earned 300-400wp and got nothing for the effort. So joining a match and/or winning doesn't really seem to matter. It's just every 500 wp you earn life time far a I can tell. You do earn points for fractions of 500, if it adds up to 500 over several different matches. I've also ran into a bug in where my account lost over 600 earned loyalty points for no reason. One day I was less than 100 from the next level and then suddenly every character on that account was 600 some points back. Given it's a mere 5 points a day for logging in and a small 1-5 points on average for playing a match. That was countless hours and/or days worth of work lost because of some glitch. A glitch I reported and made a thread about that people replied to but nothing official was done or commented on about it.
Sounds like a jank ass loyalty system. No standard for metrics and many changes/bugs over time with no official stance from ccp.
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback
27
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Posted - 2015.09.25 20:51:00 -
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Sounds like you're bitter enough to fit in with our Skype group. xD
Arkena Wyrnspire aka "British Khorne" - Cross Atu
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TIGER SHARK1501
Savage Bullet RUST415
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Posted - 2015.09.25 23:07:00 -
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Daemonn Adima wrote:Wow I had no idea it was aurum spent. That's incredibly helpful. So a follow up question - I've been conserving my aur for awhile (week or two) and have about 5k. What is the best thing to spend it on? I don't want to buy gear or fittings that are expendable. Besides skins, what do people spend their aur on most commonly? I myself prefer month long passive boosters as I have less time to play due to school. I used to get active boosters but if you are a new player and know what clkass you like I'd say get a basic BPO. A heavy or logi would be a nice start and they are better than militia. |
Joel II X
Bacon with a bottle of Quafe
9
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Posted - 2015.09.26 01:48:00 -
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$5 USD takes you to 2.
$20 USD takes you to 4.
Assuming you have 0, so yeah.
Scouts United
Gk.0s & Quafes all day.
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Kaltos Darksbane
Shadow Wolves Inc.
446
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Posted - 2015.09.26 02:27:00 -
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Daemonn Adima wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:The 50k AUR 'APEX' suits are permanent. They're ADV suit BPOs with a full BPO fit included with them. You can lose them infinitely and the prefit will still be usable at no cost to you.
If you mean the 50 AUR prefit suits, no, those are single use and also pretty terrible, IMHO.
I'm not sure why Gal skins are more expensive. Strange and arcane reasonings, vOv.
I think the main source of BPOs for AUR in the marketplace is indeed the militia area. IIRC there are still some available in the standard dropsuits section as well, though. Quafe BPOs, which come in obnoxious pink and green, can be found in strongboxes and are standard tier.
It's amusing to me that you dislike the scanner bonus on the logi because scouts scream bloody murder about it and desperately want it nerfed.
The Galassault and AR will shortly become very strong indeed, so I wouldn't worry about that. If you want to betray me ;_; really regret your choice, though, respecs cost just under 40k AUR, which I think is affordable with a merc pack. When you're new it's probably better to just buy boosters instead and spec into the new stuff, though.
In general CCP's monetisation options are sorta lacking. If you're going to play semi-regularly I think boosters may be your best bet at your level.
Once BPO trading comes in, though, I'll see if I can send you an Exile AR (standard AR blueprint) and a couple of other things, but that hinges on me being at home at some point soon which is unlikely. Ahhh OK the Apex being permanent makes a lot more sense. I understand the nature of the scanner right now, it just doesn't earn me points, which I desperately need every game or its not worth playing. I have adv. suits, adv. gear, and adv. weapons so my fits are getting expensive. If I don't break 1k WP I'm pretty much losing isk/wasting time. Running links and nanohives allow me to break 2k almost every game, unless it's a stomp. Ive used scanners, and rarely gotten the points from my scans. Even if I go scanner logi spam. Maybe I'm doing it wrong... Nah, playing the "underdog" race right now makes me want to be Gal even more. I'm a loyalist, don't fear!
Daemonn, I have an APEX suit i dont use so ill send it to you on monday. This should help you out as you make your way in this game.
If you don't receive the answer you want please be patient, my "F**k's Given" dispenser is broke.
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Daemonn Adima
Y.A.M.A.H No Context
139
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Posted - 2015.09.26 04:45:00 -
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Kaltos Darksbane wrote:Daemonn Adima wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:The 50k AUR 'APEX' suits are permanent. They're ADV suit BPOs with a full BPO fit included with them. You can lose them infinitely and the prefit will still be usable at no cost to you.
If you mean the 50 AUR prefit suits, no, those are single use and also pretty terrible, IMHO.
I'm not sure why Gal skins are more expensive. Strange and arcane reasonings, vOv.
I think the main source of BPOs for AUR in the marketplace is indeed the militia area. IIRC there are still some available in the standard dropsuits section as well, though. Quafe BPOs, which come in obnoxious pink and green, can be found in strongboxes and are standard tier.
It's amusing to me that you dislike the scanner bonus on the logi because scouts scream bloody murder about it and desperately want it nerfed.
The Galassault and AR will shortly become very strong indeed, so I wouldn't worry about that. If you want to betray me ;_; really regret your choice, though, respecs cost just under 40k AUR, which I think is affordable with a merc pack. When you're new it's probably better to just buy boosters instead and spec into the new stuff, though.
In general CCP's monetisation options are sorta lacking. If you're going to play semi-regularly I think boosters may be your best bet at your level.
Once BPO trading comes in, though, I'll see if I can send you an Exile AR (standard AR blueprint) and a couple of other things, but that hinges on me being at home at some point soon which is unlikely. Ahhh OK the Apex being permanent makes a lot more sense. I understand the nature of the scanner right now, it just doesn't earn me points, which I desperately need every game or its not worth playing. I have adv. suits, adv. gear, and adv. weapons so my fits are getting expensive. If I don't break 1k WP I'm pretty much losing isk/wasting time. Running links and nanohives allow me to break 2k almost every game, unless it's a stomp. Ive used scanners, and rarely gotten the points from my scans. Even if I go scanner logi spam. Maybe I'm doing it wrong... Nah, playing the "underdog" race right now makes me want to be Gal even more. I'm a loyalist, don't fear! Daemonn, I have an APEX suit i dont use so ill send it to you on monday. This should help you out as you make your way in this game.
Wow, thank you so much. I've almost hit 5mil sp, used some left over aur from buying my Roden GA-M skin, which I freaking love, to use instant sp boosters from some great games. Played a pub with my roomate and had a 4500 pt game holding down the point with only our links and nanohives, and revives.
I started using the adv. Burst AR and I LOVE it. By far my favorite variant, has got me back in the slaygroove. And I started running the adv. Medium basic GA suit with 2 slots. Uplink and nanohive have been my most successful games. I hold points supporting my links, mid range sniping with the burst AR. Best games I've had in awhile.
After my skin purchase, I am almost loyalty rank 3. It got me trading so it was worth it. Gave my buddy my Deathshroud skin cause he couldn't get his wins and he's amarr. My gallente passion has been ignited again! |
Arkena Wyrnspire
Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2015.09.26 11:13:00 -
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Daemonn Adima wrote:Played a pub with my roomate and had a 4500 pt game holding down the point with only our links and nanohives, and revives.
Damn. That's an excellent level of performance for someone so new.
Quote: I started using the adv. Burst AR and I LOVE it. By far my favorite variant, has got me back in the slaygroove. And I started running the adv. Medium basic GA suit with 2 slots. Uplink and nanohive have been my most successful games. I hold points supporting my links, mid range sniping with the burst AR. Best games I've had in awhile.
I told you the Burst was awesome. :3
Arkena Wyrnspire aka "British Khorne" - Cross Atu
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CommanderBolt
Dead Man's Game
4
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Posted - 2015.09.26 11:20:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Daemonn Adima wrote:Played a pub with my roomate and had a 4500 pt game holding down the point with only our links and nanohives, and revives.
Damn. That's an excellent level of performance for someone so new. Quote: I started using the adv. Burst AR and I LOVE it. By far my favorite variant, has got me back in the slaygroove. And I started running the adv. Medium basic GA suit with 2 slots. Uplink and nanohive have been my most successful games. I hold points supporting my links, mid range sniping with the burst AR. Best games I've had in awhile.
I told you the Burst was awesome. :3
Sorry to barge into the convo but I have been using the TAC recently for a similar purpose. Is it worth trying the burst AR? I'm not sure I have ever even used it....
Time to give it a go I think.
"Madness how we turned our common-ground into a battle-ground.." - Essa
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2015.09.26 11:30:00 -
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CommanderBolt wrote:
Sorry to barge into the convo but I have been using the TAC recently for a similar purpose. Is it worth trying the burst AR? I'm not sure I have ever even used it....
Time to give it a go I think.
Definitely give the burst a try. It handles better than the TAR and the scope really makes a difference.
Arkena Wyrnspire aka "British Khorne" - Cross Atu
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Press Attache
The Office of The Attorney General
153
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Posted - 2015.09.26 13:54:00 -
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Daemonn Adima wrote:Wow I had no idea it was aurum spent. That's incredibly helpful. So a follow up question - I've been conserving my aur for awhile (week or two) and have about 5k. What is the best thing to spend it on? I don't want to buy gear or fittings that are expendable. Besides skins, what do people spend their aur on most commonly?
It isn't Aurum spent, it is Aurum bought.
Spending your daily login bonus Aurum does not raise your loyalty rank.
Forum representative for Mr. Hybrid Vayu: The Attorney General.
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Meisterjager Jagermeister
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Posted - 2015.09.26 15:09:00 -
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AKA - StarVenger- Horizons' Edge
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Daemonn Adima
Y.A.M.A.H No Context
139
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Posted - 2015.09.26 15:14:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Daemonn Adima wrote:Played a pub with my roomate and had a 4500 pt game holding down the point with only our links and nanohives, and revives.
Damn. That's an excellent level of performance for someone so new. Quote: I started using the adv. Burst AR and I LOVE it. By far my favorite variant, has got me back in the slaygroove. And I started running the adv. Medium basic GA suit with 2 slots. Uplink and nanohive have been my most successful games. I hold points supporting my links, mid range sniping with the burst AR. Best games I've had in awhile.
I told you the Burst was awesome. :3
Thanks! I surprise myself sometime. If my team spawns on my links, I can pretty much keep any point battle alive.
And yes, definitely try out the burst. It's won me back over as an AR lover and gallente loyalist! |
Arkena Wyrnspire
Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2015.09.26 19:56:00 -
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Still waiting on that Skype request though, Daemonn.
There are people interested in mocking meeting you/
Arkena Wyrnspire aka "British Khorne" - Cross Atu
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Daemonn Adima
Y.A.M.A.H No Context
145
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Posted - 2015.09.26 20:13:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Still waiting on that Skype request though, Daemonn. There are people interested in mocking meeting you/
Ha I'll make sure to get on today. Heading to a local brewery for a bottle release, so I'll be on mid afternoon, probably buzzed!
Bitter, snarky, noob chat incoming! |
Kaltos Darksbane
Shadow Wolves Inc.
450
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Posted - 2015.09.26 22:57:00 -
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Daemonn, I sent you that APEX I said I would. Have fun with it!
If you don't receive the answer you want please be patient, my "F**k's Given" dispenser is broke.
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Daemonn Adima
Y.A.M.A.H No Context
145
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Posted - 2015.09.26 23:19:00 -
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Kaltos Darksbane wrote:Daemonn, I sent you that APEX I said I would. Have fun with it!
...... you're the bomb!!! Thank you so much! Loading it up now!
Edit: damn it's sweet. Is actually my highest meta level suit now lol. So seriously thank you. |
Kaltos Darksbane
Shadow Wolves Inc.
478
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Posted - 2015.09.26 23:43:00 -
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Daemonn Adima wrote:Kaltos Darksbane wrote:Daemonn, I sent you that APEX I said I would. Have fun with it! ...... you're the bomb!!! Thank you so much! Loading it up now! Edit: damn it's sweet. Is actually my highest meta level suit now lol. So seriously thank you.
Youre welcome. Just doing my part to help the community a bit.
If you don't receive the answer you want please be patient, my "F**k's Given" dispenser is broke.
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2015.09.27 00:12:00 -
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Kaltos that was real decent of you.
o7
Arkena Wyrnspire aka "British Khorne" - Cross Atu
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KEROSIINI-TERO
The Rainbow Effect
2
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Posted - 2015.09.27 00:35:00 -
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In case there was still any confusion whether buying AUR or spending it, or both, grant loyalty rank, I rechecked and made a vid:
https://youtu.be/-SIHY3VoHwg
Buying grants, spending does not.
KERO-TRADER is my official Eve character for Dust trading.
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KEROSIINI-TERO
The Rainbow Effect
2
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Posted - 2015.09.27 00:41:00 -
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A good link to bookmark is Mr Kaze's thread on loyalty gain metrics on the rookie training ground forum section:
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=185999
Note that at the time of this post it has not been updated to reflect the aur purchase/spend swap.
KERO-TRADER is my official Eve character for Dust trading.
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Kaltos Darksbane
Shadow Wolves Inc.
478
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Posted - 2015.09.27 02:37:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Kaltos that was real decent of you.
o7
I just feel those of us that have been here a while can easily live without things like APEX suits and a new player like Daemonn could really use such a thing to encourage them to stay and keep playing. If I kept just this one player in our community I consider the effort a plus for us all. o7
Plus its another Dominus Heavy out there tearing people up on those points.
If you don't receive the answer you want please be patient, my "F**k's Given" dispenser is broke.
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Daemonn Adima
Y.A.M.A.H No Context
148
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Posted - 2015.09.27 03:09:00 -
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Kaltos Darksbane wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Kaltos that was real decent of you.
o7 I just feel those of us that have been here a while can easily live without things like APEX suits and a new player like Daemonn could really use such a thing to encourage them to stay and keep playing. If I kept just this one player in our community I consider the effort a plus for us all. o7 Plus its another Dominus Heavy out there tearing people up on those points.
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Ydubbs81 RND
Ahrendee Mercenaries
4
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Posted - 2015.09.27 07:40:00 -
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Daemonn Adima wrote:Currently rank 1 as a new clone. I want to get into trading/buying/selling but need to attain rank 2. Does anyone know exactly what it takes to level up, besides the cryptic "logging in, fighting and buying aurum". As in, how much aurum do I have to buy to go up a rank?
Or rather what's the aurum purchased to Loyalty Rank points gained ratio?
Drop $5, get 4K aur and you'll reach level 2 instantly. Fastest and cheapest way to get there.
"Bring out mass drivers & jump around goddamit"
Check RND out here
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