TBF loyalty ranks aren't really that great. I'm wholeheartedly against using them as a metric to unlock meaningful content without revamping them, though, because the only way to realistically attain higher ranks is to buy aurum.

As an example, I believe Grand Master Kubo, a fellow who won 3 (IIRC) officer weapons through the events and who (last I checked) was somewhere in the top 10 for lifetime stats, is LR6/7. My memory is a little hazy on this, admittedly.

I've never actually encountered a rank 15. I've seen a Field Marshal which I believe is rank 14, and I've talked with a Marshal which is 13, but at that stage the requirements for ranking up are just obscene.

I did some calculations on this in another post.



Chatting with people on Skype later led me to run some numbers on a slightly more realistic scenario.

The 50k AUR 'APEX' suits are permanent. They're ADV suit BPOs with a full BPO fit included with them. You can lose them infinitely and the prefit will still be usable at no cost to you.

If you mean the 50 AUR prefit suits, no, those are single use and also pretty terrible, IMHO.

I'm not sure why Gal skins are more expensive. Strange and arcane reasonings, vOv.

I think the main source of BPOs for AUR in the marketplace is indeed the militia area. IIRC there are still some available in the standard dropsuits section as well, though. Quafe BPOs, which come in obnoxious pink and green, can be found in strongboxes and are standard tier.


It's amusing to me that you dislike the scanner bonus on the logi because scouts scream bloody murder about it and desperately want it nerfed.

The Galassault and AR will shortly become very strong indeed, so I wouldn't worry about that.
If you want to betray me ;_; really regret your choice, though, respecs cost just under 40k AUR, which I think is affordable with a merc pack. When you're new it's probably better to just buy boosters instead and spec into the new stuff, though.


In general CCP's monetisation options are sorta lacking. If you're going to play semi-regularly I think boosters may be your best bet at your level.

Once BPO trading comes in, though, I'll see if I can send you an Exile AR (standard AR blueprint) and a couple of other things, but that hinges on me being at home at some point soon which is unlikely.

Scanners earn you points if you run in a squad.

If you have a scanned target and a squadmate kills it, it gets you "Intel Kill Assist +15". This can stack up quickly with assists and guardian points if you're running support for a squad with a defend order on you.


And bless you sir. Out of curiosity, do you have Skype? I and a good few other folks gather there for text chat.

Send me a contact request at 'arkenai'. Or Arkena Wyrnspire. I should come up.

No it's not. I'm surprised I didn't see this brought up yet in the thread but you no longer get Loyalty points for using your aurum, it's when you buy it. The free aurum you get daily, and threw events like right now doesn't raise your rank at all. I just spent 5k aurum on a 7 day booster on one my newer accounts I use to test things out on. That character is still rank zero with 200 points to go to rank 1.

As for earnings it's not 100% accurate, or it's just bugged. If you join a match you don't automatically gain 1 loyalty point, nor do you automatically gain 2 for winning. I tested it out and sat back in the spawn point doing nothing, ending the match with zero WP. My team won and I got no points at all. Nothing for joining a match and nothing for the team winning.

I also tested out matches were I earned 300-400wp and got nothing for the effort. So joining a match and/or winning doesn't really seem to matter. It's just every 500 wp you earn life time far a I can tell. You do earn points for fractions of 500, if it adds up to 500 over several different matches.

I've also ran into a bug in where my account lost over 600 earned loyalty points for no reason. One day I was less than 100 from the next level and then suddenly every character on that account was 600 some points back. Given it's a mere 5 points a day for logging in and a small 1-5 points on average for playing a match. That was countless hours and/or days worth of work lost because of some glitch.

A glitch I reported and made a thread about that people replied to but nothing official was done or commented on about it.

Daemonn, I have an APEX suit i dont use so ill send it to you on monday. This should help you out as you make your way in this game.

Damn. That's an excellent level of performance for someone so new.



I told you the Burst was awesome. :3

Still waiting on that Skype request though, Daemonn.

There are people interested in mocking meeting you/

Daemonn, I sent you that APEX I said I would. Have fun with it!

I just feel those of us that have been here a while can easily live without things like APEX suits and a new player like Daemonn could really use such a thing to encourage them to stay and keep playing. If I kept just this one player in our community I consider the effort a plus for us all. o7

Plus its another Dominus Heavy out there tearing people up on those points.