Yet another example of your broken mindset.

You can only succeed under artificial circumstances. In actual gameplay you get trounced.

Half of any fight is making your opponent fight on your terms.

"If you find yourself in a fair fight, the other guy made a mistake."

If you want to fight me, I'll be playing FW, feel free to come at me. No excuses, no rules.

You can't talk all that crap and then demand an honourable duel.

Not that you would understand real world conduct, I'm sure you whine about how its not fair that "jerks" get the hot girls etc.

I feel bad for you now. If you have wouldn't have tried so hard to insult me I might even be moved to pity.

Sounds like you're scared. You know you'll lose. Come at me bro.

And you're backing down from a challenge. I'll q tonight. But I'll be capping your points and ensuring your loss.

zomg Noob Boob is MY ALT, BWAHAHA I'm so glad I found this. I will have to look over my footage to find the game where I made you rage quit. I gotta post that shiznit.

Don't remember using any glitches, but when your opponent accuses you of hacking, that's when you finally know you have some skill.

Count Crotchula, could you give me the exact time for today of the game that made you rage quit? It would save me a lot of time browsing my own files. Thanks.

Using Chinese as a derogatory term. +1 for racism.

So I played a game where people obviously had SSDs, I hadn't made it to the CRU on the small bridge map (domination where A is on the right-hand side, you know the one) yet the enemy had 2 dropships already on top of those two small structures above the supply depot, and didn't hack the CRU

they were up there before we even got to the CRU and they were just shooting people as they came out, there was nowhere else to spawn.

Why? Why do people insist on camping roofs to the point where they will go to your side of the map and camp the smallest roof, just to shoot new players as they spawn

what fun is there to be had in diminishing an already tiny playerbase by camping on the roof and shooting people as soon as they ******* spawn?!

Then 2nd game we got pushed out of domination straight away (gallente research facility) then they proceeded to headglitch! noob boob whoever's alt you are, **** YOU, just **** you headglitching straight away,

why push the enemy team out of the objective STRAIGHT AWAY, do you want to play at the redline? is that more fun for you? would you rather play at the redline than the objective?!

why do people INSIST on pushing you hundreds of metres from the objective and having the most boring match ever whilst they poke their heads over glitched building ledges where you can barely shoot them?

And then I try to queue up again and get internal error what's the point, every time I play this game it's full of scrubs camping roofs and farming starter fits at spawn points, or it's FULL of bugs and ******* internal error! or the game slows down to 1FPS, or the hit detection is so buggy you can't hit anything!

game is a mess I'm done, fix your glitches from three years ago CCP you lazy incompetent fools.
this game is as it was developed, CHEAP and chinese, how can you expect anything cheap and chinese to be decent and last? if it's shoes, clothes, phone, video game it doesn't matter
there's no point in giving money to a developer which leaves 3 year old bugs in the game!

So much QQ

I have to agree with Attorney General. If something obviously isn't working out, then switch what you're doing to offset it. If they're camping the CRU, spawn in the redline, hop in a dropship, and go get an uplink on the other side, or run a link through the outskirts of the map.

So I played a game where people obviously had SSDs, I hadn't made it to the CRU on the small bridge map (domination where A is on the right-hand side, you know the one) yet the enemy had 2 dropships already on top of those two small structures above the supply depot, and didn't hack the CRU

they were up there before we even got to the CRU and they were just shooting people as they came out, there was nowhere else to spawn.

Why? Why do people insist on camping roofs to the point where they will go to your side of the map and camp the smallest roof, just to shoot new players as they spawn

what fun is there to be had in diminishing an already tiny playerbase by camping on the roof and shooting people as soon as they ******* spawn?!

Then 2nd game we got pushed out of domination straight away (gallente research facility) then they proceeded to headglitch! noob boob whoever's alt you are, **** YOU, just **** you headglitching straight away,

why push the enemy team out of the objective STRAIGHT AWAY, do you want to play at the redline? is that more fun for you? would you rather play at the redline than the objective?!

why do people INSIST on pushing you hundreds of metres from the objective and having the most boring match ever whilst they poke their heads over glitched building ledges where you can barely shoot them?

And then I try to queue up again and get internal error what's the point, every time I play this game it's full of scrubs camping roofs and farming starter fits at spawn points, or it's FULL of bugs and ******* internal error! or the game slows down to 1FPS, or the hit detection is so buggy you can't hit anything!

game is a mess I'm done, fix your glitches from three years ago CCP you lazy incompetent fools.
this game is as it was developed, CHEAP and chinese, how can you expect anything cheap and chinese to be decent and last? if it's shoes, clothes, phone, video game it doesn't matter
there's no point in giving money to a developer which leaves 3 year old bugs in the game!

With that said, read this http://www.sirlin.net/articles/playing-to-win it will give you a better understanding of what we are really talking about, and also how I define and use the word scrub.

So it is reasonable to compare all modes of dust to a street fighter tournament?

So it is reasonable to compare all modes of dust to a street fighter tournament?

As a final point for the people who haven't been around dust for as long as some others, let me relate the story of PC and the god mode flaylock.

When it was first released, the flaylock was absurdly powerful. When used by skilled players it so vastly outclassed anything else, that there was literally no point in not having one equipped, and players in PC immediately recognized how it broke the gameplay, especially in PC.

The end result was that the teams in PC voluntarily banned it in PC's because of how detrimental it was to gameplay until it got needed. It wasn't that it was cheap, or took no skill, but that it was so vastly overpowered that by using it, you forced the other team to respond in kind and the match would always devolve into core flaylocks everywhere, which made the game dull and boring. It was tested, people with lots of fun game tried to find counters and couldn't. It didn't happen right away, but after a couple of weeks it became clear that it was so optimal that if you wanted to win you had to have at least one flaylock, and even abandoning your primary to run two flaylocks was a thing, because of the sheer power of the flaylock at the time.

That was broken, and it got changed once the devs saw that it was creating degenerate gameplay. But it wasn't changed because of scrubs in the forums crying cheap, it was changed because players could demonstrate that without running flaylocks it was an assured loss. Data from PC matches backed it up, and usage in pubs was out of control.

So there have been broken things in dust, but camping a rooftop or cru has never been one of them.